[Q] [Help] Phone shutting down when unplugged

[Q] [Help] Phone shutting down when unplugged - Sony Xperia ZL

Hi,
I'm experiencing some problems with my Xperia ZQ (C6503), which I bought less than a month ago, and would like to know if someone could help me, I'm getting desperate
The problem:
When turning on the phone, it displays the SONY logo (or DooMLoRD's, if I install TWRP recovery) for about 3 or 4 seconds, then shuts down (I can't even get to the boot animation, where there's the XPERIA logo and the waves).
The only way to get it to boot is turning it on while having the USB cable connected to a charger or PC. It will work just fine until I unplug it.
At this point, if I leave it alone and only access the home screen or SMS app, it will remain on until the battery is fully discharged. However, if I open any other app like WiFi networks, camera, contacts etc., it WILL shut down and I'll have to plug it again to be able to boot up...
What I did with the phone before this happened:
- Rooted using DooMLoRD Easy Rooting Toolkit and used it for a few days
- Unlocked boot loader with Flashtool
- Flashed DooMLoRD's CWM-Based Recovery 6.0.3.2
- Installed AOKP MR1 Milestone 2 (Android 4.2.2) and used it for a couple weeks
What I did trying to solve the problem:
- Wiped data/cache/dalvik cache
- Flashed various stock brazilian ROMs through Flashtool (10.3.A.1.434, 10.3.1.A.2.67 and 10.3.A.0.423) countless times
- Flashed AOKP again
- Restored to 10.3.1.A.2.67 using Sony Update Service (had to relock the bootloader with Flashtool)
- Tried updating using Sony PC Companion but it said I'm already in the latest version
- Tried to use Sony Emma but I can't get login credentials (I'm not receiving the confirmation e-mail)
I followed some instructions for similar problems in the Q&A forum but most of them end saying the owner had to send the phone to warranty, but they never say what's the outcome...
Do you think I'll have to do the same? If so, is there anything more to before sending it, other than relocking the bootloader and flashing stock firmware?
Thanks and sorry for the lengthy thread

My unit is still in the service and awaiting battery. The same problem, which as far as I know is only present to the ZL model, and the root cause is the malfunctioning battery. I did not do anything with my C6502, its completely stock, but the dealer wants me to present a receipt for them to acknowledge the warrantry of my unit. I politely told them that the unit is several months old and it has not been opened and in pure stock condition. What then will be my protection when the unit was a gift from my daughter I argued.
In short I did not prevail and yes it is bummer considering that the phone is about 3 months old in pure stock condition. I am beginning to doubt the brand and how they stand behind their product. First time to use Sony, Am currently using my old reliable Samsung Galaxy S2 while waiting for the ZL battery. Yes I will pay for everything. parts and labor. [email protected]#$ accept my apologies for releasing. . .

its happening to the Z as well.
I went through this September, it took 5 weeks and they sent me an Xperia Z as replacement which was great because the ZL development stalled.

some info
The problem is with the BMS (battery management system) inside the battery pack (--> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battery_management_system).
If an unsafe state is detected, the BMS shuts down the battery to prevent it from severe damage (fire, etc.).
Some people manage to "repair" the BMS by going through several charge and discharge cycles but this doesn't always work.
A few years back we've played around with some cheap lithium polymer battery packs without BMS.
On heavy discharg load around 50% of the cells caught fire.. (Well, we were building an electronic car for the formula student, but the concept is the same )
If you send your phone in to Sony, in most cases they don't change the battery, they just reset the BMS.
This problem can occur with all modern lithium batteries, depending on the BMS thats used inside.
I'll post here if I find a way to reset the BMS for the ZL battery, but I don't think it's that easy..
And still, you would have to open your device and connect the battery to a small microcontroller (if someone has programming skills, it might work with the Arduino board..?!?)
Depending on where you live, it can take very long (2 months plus) until you get your phone back.
You might think about replacing the battery yourself.. You can find them on ebay and several battery suppliers online for around 35$.
Here you can find the service documents: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2516874

my ZL too had this strange auto shutdown thingy, mine was fully stock, no root no unlocking.
i sent it to sony for repair. they sent me a new ZL within a week saying it had some problems with the battery.
i live in India.

Thanks for the information, I knew it was something with the battery. Some people said their phone came back to life after reconnecting the battery.
EDIT: I don't know anything about this battery management system, but Z/ZL seems to have a pretty dumb one.
Since I just got the phone and wouldn't open it, i tried discharging the battery but things got worse, the phone got stuck on a boot loop with the red LED blinking 3 times and was not charging again.
Thankfully it charged back when I tried with the original charger and cable (they were at work).
I just dropped the phone at an authorized repair center, they'll sent it to Sony and I will (or should) receive it back in up to 20 days.
Will let you guys know when I get any news.

OK, got my phone back (a new one, actually) this saturday, after 22 days.
They confirmed the problem was something with the battery.
Thanks for all the help!

That's good to hear that you got it back. I just sent my ZL in for this same issue.
Osni~* said:
OK, got my phone back (a new one, actually) this saturday, after 22 days.
They confirmed the problem was something with the battery.
Thanks for all the help!
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Sony Repair Service is awful.
Onsi~ did it take 22 business days or 22 calendar days? Mine phone has been at Sony's repair center for 31 calendar days 20 business days and the repair center just seems to be sitting on their hands. Sony's tech support doesn't seem like they can push it along either.
Osni~* said:
OK, got my phone back (a new one, actually) this saturday, after 22 days.
They confirmed the problem was something with the battery.
Thanks for all the help!
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dr2005k said:
Onsi~ did it take 22 business days or 22 calendar days? Mine phone has been at Sony's repair center for 31 calendar days 20 business days and the repair center just seems to be sitting on their hands. Sony's tech support doesn't seem like they can push it along either.
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Hello dr2005k,
It took 22 days (16 business days).
The deadline given by the attendant was initially in days, but when I called them near the end of the deadline they claimed it was in business days .
It all depends on your agreement with the repair center. If it has already expired and they are sitting in their hands, like you said, you can complain to them (if you didn't already) and maybe say you would sue them if they don't give your phone back. (Even if you don't intend to, they will get scared and try to solve your problem a little faster ).
Also try contacting Sony directly, that's what I was about to do.
I had a last resort option, in my contry (Brazil) there's a law that states if the product spends more than 30 days in the repair center, the manufacturer has to give you another one (brand new, not refurbished) or your money back.

My Xperia ZL started shutting down when unplugged
My ZL is also shutting down when unplugged. Will changing the battery help?

Osni~* said:
Hello dr2005k,
It took 22 days (16 business days).
The deadline given by the attendant was initially in days, but when I called them near the end of the deadline they claimed it was in business days .
It all depends on your agreement with the repair center. If it has already expired and they are sitting in their hands, like you said, you can complain to them (if you didn't already) and maybe say you would sue them if they don't give your phone back. (Even if you don't intend to, they will get scared and try to solve your problem a little faster ).
Also try contacting Sony directly, that's what I was about to do.
I had a last resort option, in my contry (Brazil) there's a law that states if the product spends more than 30 days in the repair center, the manufacturer has to give you another one (brand new, not refurbished) or your money back.
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Thanks for the reply. I'll be contacting them again tomorrow to see if the device they offered me over a week will get shipped soon.
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Rianto said:
My ZL is also shutting down when unplugged. Will changing the battery help?
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Most likely but you'll most likely have to send it to a Sony repair facility for warranty work. I hope you have better luck than I do getting your phone repaired and sent back.

Osni~* said:
Hi,
I'm experiencing some problems with my Xperia ZQ (C6503), which I bought less than a month ago, and would like to know if someone could help me, I'm getting desperate
The problem:
When turning on the phone, it displays the SONY logo (or DooMLoRD's, if I install TWRP recovery) for about 3 or 4 seconds, then shuts down (I can't even get to the boot animation, where there's the XPERIA logo and the waves).
The only way to get it to boot is turning it on while having the USB cable connected to a charger or PC. It will work just fine until I unplug it.
At this point, if I leave it alone and only access the home screen or SMS app, it will remain on until the battery is fully discharged. However, if I open any other app like WiFi networks, camera, contacts etc., it WILL shut down and I'll have to plug it again to be able to boot up...
What I did with the phone before this happened:
- Rooted using DooMLoRD Easy Rooting Toolkit and used it for a few days
- Unlocked boot loader with Flashtool
- Flashed DooMLoRD's CWM-Based Recovery 6.0.3.2
- Installed AOKP MR1 Milestone 2 (Android 4.2.2) and used it for a couple weeks
What I did trying to solve the problem:
- Wiped data/cache/dalvik cache
- Flashed various stock brazilian ROMs through Flashtool (10.3.A.1.434, 10.3.1.A.2.67 and 10.3.A.0.423) countless times
- Flashed AOKP again
- Restored to 10.3.1.A.2.67 using Sony Update Service (had to relock the bootloader with Flashtool)
- Tried updating using Sony PC Companion but it said I'm already in the latest version
- Tried to use Sony Emma but I can't get login credentials (I'm not receiving the confirmation e-mail)
I followed some instructions for similar problems in the Q&A forum but most of them end saying the owner had to send the phone to warranty, but they never say what's the outcome...
Do you think I'll have to do the same? If so, is there anything more to before sending it, other than relocking the bootloader and flashing stock firmware?
Thanks and sorry for the lengthy thread
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Exactly the same problem here buddy...
Here's a little email I've sent Sony Tech Support and their Press people:
"I've purchased my Xperia ZL in the United States (online at the end of March 2013 at ATGSM.com) and started using it mid April, 2013. I currently live in Sao Paulo, Brazil.
After using this phone normally for about 9 months, there was this one day back on the first week of January 2014, where I was taking lots of photos at the world famous "Serra da Capivara National Park" and could just feel the phone heating up like never before. Next thing I know, the screen went blank and phone would not respond when I pressed the power button.
I had to pres the reset button in the back of the phone in order to make it work again. But once I tried to load the camera app, the phone would automatically shut itself off. I thought it could be related to a faulty or corrupted External SD Card, so I went ahead and removed that as well before I attempted to turn my phone back on. After the system loaded up again I tried to oped the camera app and the phone turned itself off again. Any app that would require a significant amount of processing power would cause the phone to freeze and shut off.
So I decided to charge the phone all the way up until 100% (while powered off). When it reached 100% I turned it back on and used it normally (while it was still plugged to the wall charger), so I thought... Great, the phone is "OK again"! Then I went ahead and unplugged the phone off the charger, expecting it to function normally... In just a matter of minutes, with just a little bit of usage (checking emails or browsing the web) the phone simply shuts itself off on its own, yet again. I tried to turn the phone back on again and just as before, I was greeted by the Sony logo and - without any warnings or alerts - the screen simply goes blank again and that's it. This is all it does on the battery.
I've searched online for a solution for this problem and I got nowhere. My phone is all stock, bootloader locked, not rooted. I've formatted and updated it with the latest Firmware (10.4.B.0.569) a couple of times using Sony's Update Service application for Windows to no avail. Nothing seems to fix this battery/shut down on its own problem. There's tons of other Sony users complaining about similar issues with their Xperias. Just look up "xperia zl shuts off" on Google and you'll see what I mean.
My phone is one big dud...
So there you have it - one big useless US$650 piece of hardware. That only functions normally when it's plugged into a wall charger or your average computer USB port.
Not much of a "mobile" phone if you ask me.
I'm extremely unhappy with Sony's hardware and their inflexible technical support.
I've purchased this device in the United States and they can only grant me tech support under my 1 year manufacturer's warranty if I ship it over to their facility in Texas for repairs. That's no big deal for me. The one big problem is: They want me to have a US shipping address so they can ship if over to that address after they finish repairing/replacing/refurbishing my phone. And I've got a big problem with that.
I do not live in the United States. How am I supposed to pick my phone up over there?
After doing some digging through my phone's IMEI, Sony's tech support representatives brought to my attention that my device is a "Grey Market" phone (meant to be used in Singapore?) and that they don't even know how long it will take for them to service my phone. According to their supervisor, it could take anywhere from 1 month up to 4 months, maybe even more for them to repair and send it back to me.
See what I'm going through here?!?!?!
What good is it for a company as big as Sony to print and place a cute little warranty pamphlet inside the box of your brand new phone, containing the numbers of several different technical support worldwide if the 1 year warranty is not going to be covered in all of those different countries??????????????
I took the initiative to call Sony's specialized Xperia Mobile support telephone number from that pamphlet that came with my phone (not a free call, by the way) here in Brazil and shared with them my frustration regarding my Xperia ZL. They were sympathetic with me, and readily provided me with 3 different authorized service centers near my home, with their respective addresses and telephone numbers.
I managed to reach a couple of those authorized repair centers here in Brazil (over the phone) only to find out that they DO NOT have any of these Xperia ZL / ZQ batteries in stock. They also mentioned that several other customers called them and shared their bad experiences with their Xperia ZQ's battery life (defective batteries) and were greeted the same way: "I'm sorry, we can't help you. We do not carry that replacement battery in stock. We have already placed the order for those with Sony, but there's no estimate of when or even if these will ever arrive in our store anytime soon... I'm sorry about that..."
Yeah, I'm sorry about that too Sony.
I'm really sorry I bought a Sony smartphone.
I wish I could go back in time and buy a Samsung Galaxy S4 Google Play Edition instead.
But it's too late... I've already spent 650 bucks on your crappy smartphone, Sony.
Looking back, I can tell you that I've had problems with lots of other computer components that I've purchased in the States, from several different manufacturers. And I've RMA'd lots of these defective memory modules (RAM), defective SD Cards, etc. I've shipped it from Brazil straight to them in the States and in less than 1 month after they received my RMA, they went ahead and shipped a replacement back to me (in Brazil) FREE OF CHARGE! Most importantly, with NO HASSLE! That's right, NONE of these companies refused to ship it back to me at my Brazilian address like Sony is doing to me at this time.
This is the worst customer support from such a big and Global company that I've ever dealt with in my entire life.
Shame on you Sony!
After this horrible experience, here's a few things that I CAN and WILL DO for sure:
- I will NEVER buy another Sony device (camera, smartphone or laptop) ever again.
- I will never recommend a Sony product to any of my friends and family.
- I will never buy another phone with a built in, internal battery.
Sony has been continuously releasing and flooding the market with new phones that doesn't add a whole lot of improvements over their previous gen devices (ZR - Z - ZL - Z1 - Z1 Ultra - Z1S and so on). All they do is depreciate the value of what they have already released just a few months for just a little more, sometimes even less money than what you paid for your current "last gen" Sony phone just 2 or 3 months ago.
The Xperia ZL was released with last gen Snapdragon S4 Pro and in just a couple of months after I purchased my ZL they released a new, better spec'd smartphone, the Xperia Z1. And now, Sony has just announced the Xperia Z1S...
I understand that in today's mobile market / segment it's "the norm" to have this ever evolving and improving trend of new technology on mobile devices, but this seems to be getting kind of out of hand. You buy something today for US$650, sometimes even more depending on where on earth you live, only to see it become seemingly obsolete in just a matter of 3 months.
Sighs...
I'm through with Sony."
Sorry for making it lengthy as well!

Rianto said:
My ZL is also shutting down when unplugged. Will changing the battery help?
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I suggest you to first try restoring your device with Sony Update Service (it's in Sony website, just Google for it). If the problem persists, you now have a charger-dependant smartphone.....
Not sure if replacing the battery will help... I've read that someone fixed the problem just by detaching the battery cable, waiting a few minutes and then plugging it back, but I can't verify that.
Keep in mind that opening you device will void the warranty.
You can send it to repair center if it's still in warranty (or if you're willing to pay), but remove any customisation before that (eg. lock bootloader, restore TA partition etc.).
dr2005k said:
Thanks for the reply. I'll be contacting them again tomorrow to see if the device they offered me over a week will get shipped soon.
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I hope you can get your phone soon .
AndroidBR said:
Exactly the same problem here buddy...
Here's a little email I've sent Sony Tech Support and their Press people:
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Those are my feelings, exactly.
I really fail to understand why Sony did nothing to correct this problem since it's clearly visible that ALL Xperia Z(insert letter/number here) models have this issue. Some start to show the symptoms on the first week and others after 1 year.
I love my Xperia ZQ/ZL, it's an awesome phone, but I have this feeling that this problem will occur again (bad luck if it's after the warranty...) and I should just have bought another model/brand (not the S4 though )...
That being said, whenever someone asks me for advice to buy a new phone, I tell them to get away from the new Xperias. They are great phones, but you may be granted in the battery issue lotto

Yes and it's being sent back again.
Osni~* said:
I hope you can get your phone soon .
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Well I got my phone back from Sony Tuesday Night. And it's going back today... Sigh. They sent me back my old phone after offering me a new one which kinda annoyed me. Then when I tried to actually call someone with it they couldn't hear me and I found out that the main microphone is now broken. Hopefully it doesn't take another 6 weeks to get a fixed or replacement. I'm a very patient person but this is starting to wear that down really quick. I never had warranty work be this useless.

Agr! this is the exact problem with my phone. Just started this week, i start the camera app and the phone crashes! I had to keep it on charge for the most part to get it to work, so.. its a wired phone now.
Can someone document a quick way to get it fixed or replacement, where did you start? sony chat, email or visiting a repair store?

Osni~* said:
Hi,
I'm experiencing some problems with my Xperia ZQ (C6503), which I bought less than a month ago, and would like to know if someone could help me, I'm getting desperate
The problem:
When turning on the phone, it displays the SONY logo (or DooMLoRD's, if I install TWRP recovery) for about 3 or 4 seconds, then shuts down (I can't even get to the boot animation, where there's the XPERIA logo and the waves).
The only way to get it to boot is turning it on while having the USB cable connected to a charger or PC. It will work just fine until I unplug it.
At this point, if I leave it alone and only access the home screen or SMS app, it will remain on until the battery is fully discharged. However, if I open any other app like WiFi networks, camera, contacts etc., it WILL shut down and I'll have to plug it again to be able to boot up...
What I did with the phone before this happened:
- Rooted using DooMLoRD Easy Rooting Toolkit and used it for a few days
- Unlocked boot loader with Flashtool
- Flashed DooMLoRD's CWM-Based Recovery 6.0.3.2
- Installed AOKP MR1 Milestone 2 (Android 4.2.2) and used it for a couple weeks
What I did trying to solve the problem:
- Wiped data/cache/dalvik cache
- Flashed various stock brazilian ROMs through Flashtool (10.3.A.1.434, 10.3.1.A.2.67 and 10.3.A.0.423) countless times
- Flashed AOKP again
- Restored to 10.3.1.A.2.67 using Sony Update Service (had to relock the bootloader with Flashtool)
- Tried updating using Sony PC Companion but it said I'm already in the latest version
- Tried to use Sony Emma but I can't get login credentials (I'm not receiving the confirmation e-mail)
I followed some instructions for similar problems in the Q&A forum but most of them end saying the owner had to send the phone to warranty, but they never say what's the outcome...
Do you think I'll have to do the same? If so, is there anything more to before sending it, other than relocking the bootloader and flashing stock firmware?
Thanks and sorry for the lengthy thread
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this is the common problems in all the xperia zl, as it occurs after android 4.3 update, even i am also suffering fom this problem, my bootloadert was unlocked, i had relock it using flashtools, but it had just relock my bootloader, no drm keys came back, and give it to sony service center, as after unlocking my bootloader, previous os was not installing, its 5 days now, and service center is still trying to repair my phone, your they also got headache, tommorow i will ask them to replace the cell !

dr2005k said:
Well I got my phone back from Sony Tuesday Night. And it's going back today... Sigh. They sent me back my old phone after offering me a new one which kinda annoyed me. Then when I tried to actually call someone with it they couldn't hear me and I found out that the main microphone is now broken. Hopefully it doesn't take another 6 weeks to get a fixed or replacement. I'm a very patient person but this is starting to wear that down really quick. I never had warranty work be this useless.
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wow, you are a very patient man. i would be writing emails to ceo, posting on reddit, post on their facebook wall, their hangouts wall, and all other forums (hint) about it, and how incapable sony is in their repair service.

melvinrobertson said:
this is the common problems in all the xperia zl, as it occurs after android 4.3 update, even i am also suffering fom this problem, my bootloadert was unlocked, i had relock it using flashtools, but it had just relock my bootloader, no drm keys came back, and give it to sony service center, as after unlocking my bootloader, previous os was not installing, its 5 days now, and service center is still trying to repair my phone, your they also got headache, tommorow i will ask them to replace the cell !
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Is that right? Whe should start a new thread with symptoms like Upgrades, model version of the device AND chargers used lastly ( still thinking that's not the problem )
PD: Luckily I'm getting a new battery( used actually, torn apart from a totally destroyed device ) in 2 days from now and check if that's the real problem.

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[Q] possible bricked xperia play

Hello all
i have read through these forums found a range of ideas but have found no specific answer to my problem.
heres a few details (i am not up to scratch on the technical details but will do my best)
a coupe of weeks ago i did something to my phone (rooting i thinkit is called ) where i created a partition on my sd card so i could use the app sdlink. the reason for this was after every app update i was getting low memory and my phone was very sluggish so i wanted to shift it all to that partition. i managed to do this no problem, the phone worked absolutly fine afterwards.
over the weekend i was away and i noticed my phone getting slower, when ever i wanted to take a picture the camera would take ages to load. this just got worse and worse to the point of the screen hardly coming on when i activated it, the only thing that got the screen up was sliding the gamepad open and shut a few times.
it also became extremly sensitive, i could use the screen when i got it back on but the slighest nudge on the slide mechanism and it would go blank.
when i got home i tried the repair open on pc companion and it went completly black.
i have tried this a few times, i have flashed with ftf files i have used SEUS many times and nothing. it will occasionally come on, load up but the slighest touch and it goes blank.
Is the phone usesless?
shall i keep trying? i have rang up my insurance and they will want me to send it to them in a few day, i want to keep trying myself though because the excess i cant really afford to pay at the moment.
Thankyou, any help would be greatly appreciated

That sounds like a hardware fault - something wrong with your screen or a cable. I'm afraid your only option is to get it repaired

well, i am going to have to concede its a hardware problem. my phone rang and i didnt even realise it was on. it showed on my screen i lightly touched it and it went blank but continued to ring. thanyou anyway

try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1252038

If the screen came on, then flipped back off, I highly doubt that process will fix it. You're better off just getting it exchanged.
Did you look into a warranty replacement? The phone, itself, is not quite a year old, so you should still be under warranty. Reverting it to stock using the .ftf process would have gotten rid of root, so your warranty shouldn't be voided anymore.
Edit: Maybe the phone is a year old, but do look into it. You have a year manufacturer's warranty that, unless you got the phone right when it was released, should still be in effect.

xperia play dead!!
my case my xperia play is totally off, its only vibrate whn i press power button. Some days ago my play working perfectly but whn i slide up or down my screen display goes off but my mobile is on & thn i press lock button and thn press unlock the screen, but oneday i was using my mobile and suddenly my mobile display off again at tht time mobile on only screen off thn i pulled out battery and restart my mobile but thr was no luck, my xperia play dead only vibrate. i flash my mobile several time through flashtool but no luck. I think its slider cable issue or may be motherboard, is thr any luck to send my mobile to sony repair center bec i am a secnd owner but no purchase slip or any bill. kindly confim me, is thr any chance that sony repair my mobile???
your early response in this regard will be highly appreciated..

The infamous slider flex cable. Same thing wrong with mine.
I'm starting to think that slider is a faulty design. More and more people are having issues. After taking apart my xplay, I can tell you the way it's designed puts a lot of stress on that cable. The engineers weren't doing their job..
Sony needs to do a warranty extension/recall because of this IMO
Maybe we should all make a petition.

So I have a rooted CDMA xperia play running 2.3.3, my question is is it possible to unlock the bootloader of my phone? Cuase from my reading CDMA xperia plays are unable to have the bootloader unlocked

gagebiddy said:
So I have a rooted CDMA xperia play running 2.3.3, my question is is it possible to unlock the bootloader of my phone? Cuase from my reading CDMA xperia plays are unable to have the bootloader unlocked
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The only way is to pay to have it unlocked

[Q] Dying ZL

It seems I'm having issues with my 6506 ZL and I don't know if it's related to the Battery bug issue, and/or something else - so I've come to my brothers and sisters here to help :good:
1. The phone will not boot unless it's plugged in (either through USB or the wall charger) as once it hits the Sony logo (or animation) it will turn off.
2. Once I manage to get in, I'm able to use the phone with no issues
3. ..and when I unplug the phone again, if I leave it alone, I'm able to do basic things like use the unlock screen go to different homepages, and open the app drawer
4. If I select a widget, app, or go into settings, the phone turns off.
Since an update wasn't available via the PCC or SUS, I flashed the most recent firmware 10.3.1.A.0.244 myself, and it doesn't seem to help the issue so I'm led to believe it's a problem with the hardware itself - maybe a sensor or something that reads the battery as dead?
Does anyone have any ideas as to what else I can try doing, or am I SOL and need to send it to Sony repair (and potentially have to pay to fix it)? Any help or input would be greatly appreciated

Did u tried to contact Sony? They can replace your phone for free.
Sent from my C6506 using xda app-developers app

They don't seem to be much help - they're trying to pawn it off to my carrier to repair

Hung Wei Lo said:
They don't seem to be much help - they're trying to pawn it off to my carrier to repair
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In what country you are? Did you bought the phone from the carrier?
Sent from my C6506 using xda app-developers app

maclancer said:
In what country you are? Did you bought the phone from the carrier?
Sent from my C6506 using xda app-developers app
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I'm in Canada. I bought the phone second hand, through kijiji.ca - it was locked to one carrier (Bell) and I'm with Rogers, so I had to get it unlocked. The rep kept insisting that I have to send it through Bell since it's "their" phone

Hung Wei Lo said:
I'm in Canada. I bought the phone second hand, through kijiji.ca - it was locked to one carrier (Bell) and I'm with Rogers, so I had to get it unlocked. The rep kept insisting that I have to send it through Bell since it's "their" phone
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There are ROMs available that allow you to unlock it and install any SIM card. I bought mine from Amazon unlocked.
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maclancer said:
There are ROMs available that allow you to unlock it and install any SIM card. I bought mine from Amazon unlocked.
Sent from my C6506 using xda app-developers app
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Thanks for the info - I'll keep that in mind for the future, now that I'm semi-comfortable flashing roms :/ Judging by the way he was grilling me, I don't think Sony would accept a modified phone anyway to repair.
But based on my issue, I'm lead to believe it's a hardware issue. Should I try flashing another rom to see if it improves (though I still need to figure out this business about kernels)

Update:
Sony is going to send me a coffin so I can ship my phone to them to get repaired. I have a feeling that they're going to ask for a proof of purchase, however, this phone was given to me as a gift, and the guy who gave it to me is only here 6 months out of the year...am I SOL? any kind soul out there have a bill I could "borrow"?

Sony Xperia ZL C6505 woes
I know this is a bit late (as the post is dated), but it is a hardware issue.
I had the exact same issue, and I managed to figure out the pattern to get past the "boot loop". I do believe it is a board issue, where there has to be some controller that lets the phone know when the battery is dead or not. And I'm 95% sure, its the heat generated by the phone that has ruined that component. Sony makes very excellent products (I've had a number of them- PSP, PS Vita, 2 Sony Vaio laptops), but sometimes when they make silly mistakes- like failing to properly dissipate heat from a handheld device running a quad-core processor. Never had any heat issues with the pSP or PS Vita, but definitely with the two VAIO laptops.
In this instance, I at first thought it was the phone battery, but i ran CPU-z utility on the phone, and it found the battery life to be good. I then took it to a place to change the battery (believing it was a false reading), but they confirmed the battery was good. The phone was experiencing a board issue.
So definitely no firmware flash or Android OS update is going to fix that. It may fix the issue in the future if it prevents some Android OS/Google system component from running the system hot. My phone is on Android OS 4.1.2, and when the battery level fell below 40%, it would start to get hot (roughly 65-70 Celsius); sometimes apps to help cool the phone would drop temperature to 42 Celsius.

[Q] xperia 6503 wont turn on after update

hi,
I have a big problem.. yesterday I updated zl 6503 thru pcc to the latest software 10.3.1.A.2.6.7, but when it succesfully finished I could not turn it on..
it was never rooted, I just updated it on 4.2.2 maybe 2 months ago and worked perfectly since
I tried every possible combination with buttons (up, down, power, off) but it just wont boot, just black screen and red light is on or blinking
the battery was 100% when I updated
I tried to repair it in pcc in support but nothing shows, I even updated it again thru sus, but it is always the same..
do you have any idea what it is or what can I do?
thanks

I flashed it but still the same, I think there is problem with charging, because when I plug it to power there is just red light, it wont get orange or green even if phone is plugged for hours
maybe this is why it wont boot..

skyline_slo said:
I flashed it but still the same, I think there is problem with charging, because when I plug it to power there is just red light, it wont get orange or green even if phone is plugged for hours
maybe this is why it wont boot..
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I will contact Sony if I was you and they can replace it
Sent from my C6506 using xda app-developers app

maclancer said:
I will contact Sony if I was you and they can replace it
Sent from my C6506 using xda app-developers app
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strange thing happened, I already gave up on it and thinking I should take it to sony, but today I just tried to charge it and it did!
when it's full, I'll see if it works normally

it works perfect, seems like the battery was totaly empty, even though it was full when I did the update..
ok now i have another question, 2 months ago I made a backup (.semc-fullbackup) I have it on my comp, I dont know how to restore that file on my phone? anybody know where to copy it?

hi, still the same issue with ZL..
every time I turn the phone off, I can't turn it on normally.. I have to leave it for few hours and then I can start charging it (bright red led), otherwise it's barely red led.. it is like every time I switch the phone off, the battery gets totally drained, even though it is never under 15%, and I think that is the reason it wont turn on
is it possible that it's battery issue or software? let me say that this happened for the first time when I updated to the latest official rom,
now I flashed it to 4.2.1 and it's the same..

HI, +1 I am experiencing the same problem now. Did my own research here, and found there is a way to deal with this. Be patient and be challenged by the problem as this is the objective I believe of this XDA community. Coming from Galaxy S2 I have experienced difficult issues and was able to solve them knowing and understanding the design, and the configuration of the phone. So am not a total newbie to flashing and custom roms. Anyway I consider myself new to XZL and would like to do the critical solving by understanding first the Sony package because I believe not all android phones are made the same Software wise.
My phone is stock, non rooted with still locked BL (JB 4.2.2), it was acquired from a seller in stock and original software condition as I prefer the UI of Sony. Lately the phone strangely began to reboot for no apparent reason, until it decided to just stop totally, doesn't switch on. It will boot up to the Sony Logo then stops dead, and the only way for me to pass thru this state is when I attach the charger.
There could be two reasons I suspect: 1) Battery is drained (although I'm sure I have enough juice) and as mentioned the charger is needed or 2) Firmware problem.
I'll share details later but based on the above I'm more inclined to focus on the second (Firmware) suspect first. My phone still has both FastBoot and Flashmode so still not bricked. Are you with me?

jun1662 said:
HI, +1 I am experiencing the same problem now. Did my own research here, and found there is a way to deal with this. Be patient and be challenged by the problem as this is the objective I believe of this XDA community. Coming from Galaxy S2 I have experienced difficult issues and was able to solve them knowing and understanding the design, and the configuration of the phone. So am not a total newbie to flashing and custom roms. Anyway I consider myself new to XZL and would like to do the critical solving by understanding first the Sony package because I believe not all android phones are made the same Software wise.
My phone is stock, non rooted with still locked BL (JB 4.2.2), it was acquired from a seller in stock and original software condition as I prefer the UI of Sony. Lately the phone strangely began to reboot for no apparent reason, until it decided to just stop totally, doesn't switch on. It will boot up to the Sony Logo then stops dead, and the only way for me to pass thru this state is when I attach the charger.
There could be two reasons I suspect: 1) Battery is drained (although I'm sure I have enough juice) and as mentioned the charger is needed or 2) Firmware problem.
I'll share details later but based on the above I'm more inclined to focus on the second (Firmware) suspect first. My phone still has both FastBoot and Flashmode so still not bricked. Are you with me?
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tnx for reply, my phone is also nonrooted, I only downloaded official sony firmware
but I can't even get to the screen where is sony logo, it's dead completely, so I have to wait several hours (maybe the battery needs, I dont know) and then I can charge it.. but when I turn it off, it wont get on again..
I also thought there is firmware problem, but now I have 4.2.1 again and the problem is still here, so maybe it's not firmware?

Try flashing the .423 or .67 stock rom with the latest flashtool for xperia devices (http://www.flashtool.net/download.php).
Maybe pcc screwed something up. On my old Xperia Neo I had several problems after updating with official Sony tools.

CokeJunkee said:
Try flashing the .423 or .67 stock rom with the latest flashtool for xperia devices (http://www.flashtool.net/download.php).
Maybe pcc screwed something up. On my old Xperia Neo I had several problems after updating with official Sony tools.
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I'll try, but I don't think anymore that it's software problem

skyline_slo said:
tnx for reply, my phone is also nonrooted, I only downloaded official sony firmware
but I can't even get to the screen where is sony logo, it's dead completely, so I have to wait several hours (maybe the battery needs, I dont know) and then I can charge it.. but when I turn it off, it wont get on again..
I also thought there is firmware problem, but now I have 4.2.1 again and the problem is still here, so maybe it's not firmware?
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Hi Skyline_slo, just an update of what I have done; 1) I read this "http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1849170" to learn and was able to
make progress on my unit. I drained completely the battery to be able to reset the kernel (took about an hour or so) because from what I have learned on start-up the kernel controls the intial process before the ROM kicks in. So if the kernel has issues, there is a chance that it will reset to default when the power runs down. I was able to successfully reached the red LED state which is the slow charging mode. This state is when the Battery icon with lightning appears on the center of the screen.
Guess what? I was able to boot my unit completely and test the new FW (while attached to the charger) and subsequently made adjustments on the recently flashed firmware (first time by the way using flashtool)
After this, I checked the service condition of the unit using the code *#*#7378423#*#*, and took note of the changes the flashed FW. Then I decided to power down my phone to accelerate the charging time and completely settle the new firmware's adjustments. My hopes are up and high again knowing that the thing is not bricked and just experienced a minor glitch probably the software.
After more than two hours I checked back and switch it on again and to my surprise it doesnt boot, just stock again in the Sony logo. Was a little disappointed but the thing here is, I made progress by ruling out that the ROM has issues, second, that draining the battery will reset the kernel and would lead to completely boot the system. At this point as previously mentioned in my earlier post, my other suspect is the battery so I will work on it today and relay/share whatever I encounter.

hi jun1662,
I'm glad that you're making progress with your unit, because I simply dont have any ideas left what to do with my unit
I flashed it to rom .244 and now I just wont turn off the phone, because I will not be able to turn it on normally again
I'll wait for next update 4.3 and then try if it's any better, but I doubt it
it may be hardware related issue, but why is working perfect when it is turned on?

skyline_slo said:
hi jun1662,
I'm glad that you're making progress with your unit, because I simply dont have any ideas left what to do with my unit
I flashed it to rom .244 and now I just wont turn off the phone, because I will not be able to turn it on normally again
I'll wait for next update 4.3 and then try if it's any better, but I doubt it
it may be hardware related issue, but why is working perfect when it is turned on?
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Update: Definely ruled out software, and made some test related to supply meaning battery, and the result is my battery is defective, it may
provide you with a ample charge but in reality, current is not enough to sustain the requirement display and cores, so it seems the main culprit here is
the battery. Also did my own checking on the other post and inquired on how the problem manifested, and the solution is replace battery.
Going to have my unit serviced for battery replacement, and this is my final actions, if this proves pointless, i'll provide answers tomorrow. Keeping
my fingers crossed.

[Q] Xperia ZL Only Boot Up While Charging

Hi all!
I have ZL (ZQ in Brazil) and about two days ago it simply shut off while I was taking a picture. The phone stuck in the first screen showing the Free Xperia logo and didn't come up until I plug in the power (from wall or pc usb).
Today I've dowloaded the last oficial firmware from sony and put it up via Flashtool but now, as soon as I take the cable out the phone dies.
I noticed that with the oficial ROM, when it finishes booting up, I receive the message: "com.android.phone has stopped.".
The phone also looses the signal in places it use to have full bars, like my room...
Before that my phone was ok.
*All off above happens with battery full charged!*
Also, I did a snapshot update a few weeks ago and several features went off (I thought it was a stable version since it showed up on cyanogen menu). So I tried to recover the last version via Cyanogem menu. The phone stuck in boot loop. Then I downloaded the version again and installed via CWM.
The thing is that I never notice nothing uncommon since that day. I don't know if it's related.
Does anybody knows if it's software/firmware related or does it have something to do with hardware issues?
Any help is appreciated!

Stuck with the same issue here !
Hi all,
Everything was fine until yesterday my phone switched off during a call and never switched on.
Now it switches on only when connected to a wall charger ! Please let me know if someone fixes this issue

I'm also thinking it's hardware related
Since mine is only 6 mo I'll take it to an authorized repair shop tomorrow morning.
I let you guys know if they find something out.

Just back from service center
The Sony service guys could not make it work after a software overhaul.. They are gonna replace the entire chipset to fix the issue ! and in warranty :victory: !! Though Still no idea what caused the problem in the first place!

ngoline said:
Hi all!
I have ZL (ZQ in Brazil) and about two days ago it simply shut off while I was taking a picture. The phone stuck in the first screen showing the Free Xperia logo and didn't come up until I plug in the power (from wall or pc usb).
Today I've dowloaded the last oficial firmware from sony and put it up via Flashtool but now, as soon as I take the cable out the phone dies.
I noticed that with the oficial ROM, when it finishes booting up, I receive the message: "com.android.phone has stopped.".
The phone also looses the signal in places it use to have full bars, like my room...
Before that my phone was ok.
*All off above happens with battery full charged!*
Also, I did a snapshot update a few weeks ago and several features went off (I thought it was a stable version since it showed up on cyanogen menu). So I tried to recover the last version via Cyanogem menu. The phone stuck in boot loop. Then I downloaded the version again and installed via CWM.
The thing is that I never notice nothing uncommon since that day. I don't know if it's related.
Does anybody knows if it's software/firmware related or does it have something to do with hardware issues?
Any help is appreciated!
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Exactly the same problem over here buddy...
Here's a little something I wrote to Sony and their Press people.
"I've purchased my Xperia ZL in the United States (online at the end of March 2013 at ATGSM.com) and started using it mid April, 2013. I currently live in Brazil.
After using this phone normally for about 9 months, there was this one day back on the first week of January 2014, where I was taking lots of photos at the world famous "Serra da Capivara National Park" and could just feel the phone heating up like never before. Next thing I know, the screen went blank and phone would not respond when I pressed the power button.
I had to pres the reset button in the back of the phone in order to make it work again. But once I tried to load the camera app, the phone would automatically shut itself off. I thought it could be related to a faulty or corrupted External SD Card, so I went ahead and removed that as well before I attempted to turn my phone back on. After the system loaded up again I tried to oped the camera app and the phone turned itself off again. Any app that would require a significant amount of processing power would cause the phone to freeze and shut off.
So I decided to charge the phone all the way up until 100% (while powered off). When it reached 100% I turned it back on and used it normally (while it was still plugged to the wall charger), so I thought... Great, the phone is "OK again"! Then I went ahead and unplugged the phone off the charger, expecting it to function normally... In just a matter of minutes, with just a little bit of usage (checking emails or browsing the web) the phone simply shuts itself off on its own, yet again. I tried to turn the phone back on again and just as before, I was greeted by the Sony logo and - without any warnings or alerts - the screen simply goes blank again and that's it. This is all it does on the battery.
I've searched online for a solution for this problem and I got nowhere. My phone is all stock, bootloader locked, not rooted. I've formatted and updated it with the latest Firmware (10.4.B.0.569) a couple of times using Sony's Update Service application for Windows to no avail. Nothing seems to fix this battery/shut down on its own problem. There's tons of other Sony users complaining about similar issues with their Xperias. Just look up "xperia zl shuts off" on Google and you'll see what I mean.
My phone is one big dud...
So there you have it - one big useless US$650 piece of hardware. That only functions normally when it's plugged into a wall charger or your average computer USB port.
Not much of a "mobile" phone if you ask me.
I'm extremely unhappy with Sony's hardware and their inflexible technical support.
I've purchased this device in the United States and they can only grant me tech support under my 1 year manufacturer's warranty if I ship it over to their facility in Texas for repairs. That's no big deal for me. The one big problem is: They want me to have a US shipping address so they can ship if over to that address after they finish repairing/replacing/refurbishing my phone. And I've got a big problem with that.
I do not live in the United States. How am I supposed to pick my phone up over there?
After doing some digging through my phone's IMEI, Sony's tech support representatives brought to my attention that my device is a "Grey Market" phone (meant to be used in Singapore?) and that they don't even know how long it will take for them to service my phone. According to their supervisor, it could take anywhere from 1 month up to 4 months, maybe even more for them to repair and send it back to me.
See what I'm going through here?!?!?!
What good is it for a company as big as Sony to print and place a cute little warranty pamphlet inside the box of your brand new phone, containing the numbers of several different technical support worldwide if the 1 year warranty is not going to be covered in all of those different countries??????????????
I took the initiative to call Sony's specialized Xperia Mobile support telephone number from that pamphlet that came with my phone (not a free call, by the way) here in Brazil and shared with them my frustration regarding my Xperia ZL. They were sympathetic with me, and readily provided me with 3 different authorized service centers near my home, with their respective addresses and telephone numbers.
I managed to reach a couple of those authorized repair centers here in Brazil (over the phone) only to find out that they DO NOT have any of these Xperia ZL / ZQ batteries in stock. They also mentioned that several other customers called them and shared their bad experiences with their Xperia ZQ's battery life (defective batteries) and were greeted the same way: "I'm sorry, we can't help you. We do not carry that replacement battery in stock. We have already placed the order for those with Sony, but there's no estimate of when or even if these will ever arrive in our store anytime soon... I'm sorry about that..."
Yeah, I'm sorry about that too Sony.
I'm really sorry I bought a Sony smartphone.
I wish I could go back in time and buy a Samsung Galaxy S4 Google Play Edition instead.
But it's too late... I've already spent 650 bucks on your crappy smartphone, Sony.
Looking back, I can tell you that I've had problems with lots of other computer components that I've purchased in the States, from several different manufacturers. And I've RMA'd lots of these defective memory modules (RAM), defective SD Cards, etc. I've shipped it from Brazil straight to them in the States and I less than 1 month after they received my defective products, they went ahead and shipped a replacement back to me (in Brazil) FREE OF CHARGE! Most importantly, with NO HASSLE! That's right, none of these companies refused to ship it back to me at my Brazilian address like Sony is doing to me at this time.
This is the worst customer support from such a big and Global company that I've ever dealt with in my entire life.
Shame on you Sony!
After this horrible experience, here's a few things that I CAN and WILL DO for sure:
- I will NEVER buy another Sony device (camera, smartphone or laptop) ever again.
- I will never recommend a Sony product to any of my friends and family.
- I will never buy another phone with a built in, internal battery.
Sony has been continuously releasing and flooding the market with new phones that doesn't add a whole lot of improvements over their previous gen devices (ZR - ZL - Z1 - Z1 Ultra - Z1S and so on). All they do is depreciate the value of what they have already released just a few months for just a little more, sometimes even less money than what you paid for your current "last gen" Sony phone just 2 or 3 months ago.
The Xperia ZL was released with last gen Snapdragon S4 Pro and in just a couple of months after I purchased my ZL they released a new, better spec'd smartphone, the Xperia Z1. And now, Sony has just announced the Xperia Z1S...
I understand that in today's mobile market / segment it's "the norm" to have this ever evolving and improving trend of new technology on mobile devices, but this seems to be getting kind of out of hand. You buy something today for US$650, sometimes even more depending on where on earth you live, only to see it become seemingly obsolete in just a matter of 3 months.
Sighs...
I'm through with Sony."

Solved (by myself)
As I said before, I lost my warranty the moment I unlocked my bootloader and they were charging me almost the price for a new phone.
The only place I found the batery was on ebay.it and took more than one month to arrive.
As you all suspected, changing the battery solve the problem.
The only problem is that now my camera doesn't work...

ngoline said:
As I said before, I lost my warranty the moment I unlocked my bootloader and they were charging me almost the price for a new phone.
The only place I found the batery was on ebay.it and took more than one month to arrive.
As you all suspected, changing the battery solve the problem.
The only problem is that now my camera doesn't work...
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Didn't you "relock" you bootloader and flashed latest Sony Firmware before you sent your Xperia ZL/ZQ in for Warranty Support????

RELOCK?
AndroidBR said:
Didn't you "relock" you bootloader and flashed latest Sony Firmware before you sent your Xperia ZL/ZQ in for Warranty Support????
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WHOA! I didn't know there was a re-lock feature...
Well, too late now...
Thanks anyway. I hope it helps if someone else have the same problem!

I am going through the same excruciating process with my girlfriend's Xperia ZL right now. This phone has not been rooted and just kept running the official updates from Sony. I just updated it to their official version of 4.4.2 and am having the exact same issues. The phone crashes, freezes and won't stay on and can't be kept powered on unless it is kept plugged into the wall or computer USB. Just got off the phone with a higher-level manager at Sony who was "sorry" and "couldn't do anything" unless I pay for the repairs myself. They were actually blaming Google for releasing a "bad" update which he said was "affecting ALL android phones". That's a pretty bold statement- especially knowing that's false, reading all the threads online about this issue with Sony devices specifically. This was until he found out that they screwed up and realized the phone was still under warranty, expiring TODAY. After an hour of back-and-forth, I got him to agree to paying for shipping and fixing the phone as if it were under warranty status still.
I will never buy a Sony piece of hardware again and will highly discourage and demote their hardware to anyone.

[Q] Xperia ZL C6502 keeps restarting

My xperia ZL keeps shutting down at random times, and when I try turning it on it usually turns off again at the Sony logo, or it turns on only to shutdown again.
BUT it works perfectly fine with the charger plugged in, and something I have noticed is that the charging light when the phone is turned off is yellowish now instead of purely orange like it usually is,
Plus i noticed that the phone without the charger runs fine for awhile, but as soon as I turn the camera on it shutsdown which it doesnt with the charger on.
What is the problem here?

Defect battery. Its a known issue on zl. You need to send it to a sony service center. Good luck.
Sent from my C6503 using xda app-developers app

ThuCommix said:
Defect battery. Its a known issue on zl. You need to send it to a sony service center. Good luck.
Sent from my C6503 using xda app-developers app
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Now it wont turn on at all, even with a charger screen keeps flashing and led too, is it possible to firstly access the phone via computer so I can copy images etc? I really need the stuff i have saved on the phone really should have backed it up before :/

Try holding down the reset button near the sdcard for a moment, this should fix the issue its not starting on charger.
Sent from my C6503 using xda app-developers app

ThuCommix said:
Defect battery. Its a known issue on zl. You need to send it to a sony service center. Good luck.
Sent from my C6503 using xda app-developers app
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i had same problem .......i don't think its a battery problem because my device is working fine in every other things....for this problem,it started after updating my device to 4.3 ...i think its something to do with camera app ......anyway i'm back to 4.2.2 and its working fine(no problem)

today again i updated my zl to 4.3,i found where the problem is ,there is no problem in camera app ,actualy problem is in its modes.every time i tried opening 'picture effect' mode it open for 4-5 seconds and then phone shuts down.i disable picture effect from settings and every thing is working fine.could anyone please test it on his/her device
do this:-
open camera ,click on picture effect ,when many sceans come ,move your device for 3to5 secs and click on scetch effect and see if your decvice shuts down.
for info
my device is clear no root ,no BU

gagu.436425 said:
today again i updated my zl to 4.3,i found where the problem is ,there is no problem in camera app ,actualy problem is in its modes.every time i tried opening 'picture effect' mode it open for 4-5 seconds and then phone shuts down.i disable picture effect from settings and every thing is working fine.could anyone please test it on his/her device
do this:-
open camera ,click on picture effect ,when many sceans come ,move your device for 3to5 secs and click on scetch effect and see if your decvice shuts down.
for info
my device is clear no root ,no BU
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Hi bro, can you help me out. My ZL faulty same like you. How you do to solve it. Before update to 4.3, my ZL no problem. After updated to 4.3, my signal loss, suddently shut down and stuck at sony logo and shut down back.

gagu.436425 said:
today again i updated my zl to 4.3,i found where the problem is ,there is no problem in camera app ,actualy problem is in its modes.every time i tried opening 'picture effect' mode it open for 4-5 seconds and then phone shuts down.i disable picture effect from settings and every thing is working fine.could anyone please test it on his/her device
do this:-
open camera ,click on picture effect ,when many sceans come ,move your device for 3to5 secs and click on scetch effect and see if your decvice shuts down.
for info
my device is clear no root ,no BU
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Work fine here. No reboot, no force close. By the way I flash the 4.3 ftf and wipe everything to ensure clean install of OS.
Sent from my Z10 using Tapatalk

@slinkyzone
sorry to say bro...but i was wrong ..it is a battery deffect...i already sent my device to service centre:crying:
even though my zl was working fine except shutdowns in camera,signal lost and these problems are getting bigger.........i advice you to send your zl to sevice centre.
@butatx
thx for replying...BTW i also did the clean install but no luck
{ waiting for my lovely ZL}

gagu.436425 said:
@slinkyzone
sorry to say bro...but i was wrong ..it is a battery deffect...i already sent my device to service centre:crying:
even though my zl was working fine except shutdowns in camera,signal lost and these problems are getting bigger.........i advice you to send your zl to sevice centre.
@butatx
thx for replying...BTW i also did the clean install but no luck
{ waiting for my lovely ZL}
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Alright will send mine to service center as my ZL still under warranty. Thanks

dani_cfc01 said:
My xperia ZL keeps shutting down at random times, and when I try turning it on it usually turns off again at the Sony logo, or it turns on only to shutdown again.
BUT it works perfectly fine with the charger plugged in, and something I have noticed is that the charging light when the phone is turned off is yellowish now instead of purely orange like it usually is,
Plus i noticed that the phone without the charger runs fine for awhile, but as soon as I turn the camera on it shutsdown which it doesnt with the charger on.
What is the problem here?
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Exactly the same problem over here buddy...
Here's a little letter I've written to Sony Support and their Press people:
"I've purchased my Xperia ZL in the United States (online at the end of March 2013 at ATGSM.com) and started using it mid April, 2013. I currently live in Sao Paulo, Brazil.
After using this phone normally for about 9 months, there was this one day back on the first week of January 2014, where I was taking lots of photos at the world famous "Serra da Capivara National Park" and could just feel the phone heating up like never before. Next thing I know, the screen went blank and phone would not respond when I pressed the power button.
I had to pres the reset button in the back of the phone in order to make it work again. But once I tried to load the camera app, the phone would automatically shut itself off. I thought it could be related to a faulty or corrupted External SD Card, so I went ahead and removed that as well before I attempted to turn my phone back on. After the system loaded up again I tried to oped the camera app and the phone turned itself off again. Any app that would require a significant amount of processing power would cause the phone to freeze and shut off.
So I decided to charge the phone all the way up until 100% (while powered off). When it reached 100% I turned it back on and used it normally (while it was still plugged to the wall charger), so I thought... Great, the phone is "OK again"! Then I went ahead and unplugged the phone off the charger, expecting it to function normally... In just a matter of minutes, with just a little bit of usage (checking emails or browsing the web) the phone simply shuts itself off on its own, yet again. I tried to turn the phone back on again and just as before, I was greeted by the Sony logo and - without any warnings or alerts - the screen simply goes blank again and that's it. This is all it does on the battery.
I've searched online for a solution for this problem and I got nowhere. My phone is all stock, bootloader locked, not rooted. I've formatted and updated it with the latest Firmware (10.4.B.0.569) a couple of times using Sony's Update Service application for Windows to no avail. Nothing seems to fix this battery/shut down on its own problem. There's tons of other Sony users complaining about similar issues with their Xperias. Just look up "xperia zl shuts off" on Google and you'll see what I mean.
My phone is one big dud...
So there you have it - one big useless US$650 piece of hardware. That only functions normally when it's plugged into a wall charger or your average computer USB port.
Not much of a "mobile" phone if you ask me.
I'm extremely unhappy with Sony's hardware and their inflexible technical support.
I've purchased this device in the United States and they can only grant me tech support under my 1 year manufacturer's warranty if I ship it over to their facility in Texas for repairs. That's no big deal for me. The one big problem is: They want me to have a US shipping address so they can ship if over to that address after they finish repairing/replacing/refurbishing my phone. And I've got a big problem with that.
I do not live in the United States. How am I supposed to pick my phone up over there?
After doing some digging through my phone's IMEI, Sony's tech support representatives brought to my attention that my device is a "Grey Market" phone (meant to be used in Singapore?) and that they don't even know how long it will take for them to service my phone. According to their supervisor, it could take anywhere from 1 month up to 4 months, maybe even more for them to repair and send it back to me.
See what I'm going through here?!?!?!
What good is it for a company as big as Sony to print and place a cute little warranty pamphlet inside the box of your brand new phone, containing the numbers of several different technical support worldwide if the 1 year warranty is not going to be covered in all of those different countries??????????????
I took the initiative to call Sony's specialized Xperia Mobile support telephone number from that pamphlet that came with my phone (not a free call, by the way) here in Brazil and shared with them my frustration regarding my Xperia ZL. They were sympathetic with me, and readily provided me with 3 different authorized service centers near my home, with their respective addresses and telephone numbers.
I managed to reach a couple of those authorized repair centers here in Brazil (over the phone) only to find out that they DO NOT have any of these Xperia ZL / ZQ batteries in stock. They also mentioned that several other customers called them and shared their bad experiences with their Xperia ZQ's battery life (defective batteries) and were greeted the same way: "I'm sorry, we can't help you. We do not carry that replacement battery in stock. We have already placed the order for those with Sony, but there's no estimate of when or even if these will ever arrive in our store anytime soon... I'm sorry about that..."
Yeah, I'm sorry about that too Sony.
I'm really sorry I bought a Sony smartphone.
I wish I could go back in time and buy a Samsung Galaxy S4 Google Play Edition instead.
But it's too late... I've already spent 650 bucks on your crappy smartphone, Sony.
Looking back, I can tell you that I've had problems with lots of other computer components that I've purchased in the States, from several different manufacturers. And I've RMA'd lots of these defective memory modules (RAM), defective SD Cards, etc. I've shipped it from Brazil straight to them in the States and in less than 1 month after they received my RMA, they went ahead and shipped a replacement back to me (in Brazil) FREE OF CHARGE! Most importantly, with NO HASSLE! That's right, NONE of these companies refused to ship it back to me at my Brazilian address like Sony is doing to me at this time.
This is the worst customer support from such a big and Global company that I've ever dealt with in my entire life.
Shame on you Sony!
After this horrible experience, here's a few things that I CAN and WILL DO for sure:
- I will NEVER buy another Sony device (camera, smartphone or laptop) ever again.
- I will never recommend a Sony product to any of my friends and family.
- I will never buy another phone with a built in, internal battery.
Sony has been continuously releasing and flooding the market with new phones that doesn't add a whole lot of improvements over their previous gen devices (Z - ZL - Z1 - Z1 - Z1 Ultra - Z1S and so on). All they do is depreciate the value of what they have already released just a few months for just a little more, sometimes even less money than what you paid for your current "last gen" Sony phone just 2 or 3 months ago.
The Xperia ZL was released with last gen Snapdragon S4 Pro and in just a couple of months after I purchased my ZL they released a new, better spec'd smartphone, the Xperia Z1. And now, Sony has just announced the Xperia Z1S...
I understand that in today's mobile market / segment it's "the norm" to have this ever evolving and improving trend of new technology on mobile devices, but this seems to be getting kind of out of hand. You buy something today for US$650, sometimes even more depending on where on earth you live, only to see it become seemingly obsolete in just a matter of 3 months.
Sighs...
I'm through with Sony."

Same problem here; already 2 days waiting for my Sony smartphone support Account email activation and still waiting ( done it twice from hotmail and gmail ).
A short-time solution is to open the device, disconnect battery for some minutes and build it up all again---> the phone will work form some days/weeks until it start crapping again...really a shame product for Sony...whould expect more from such an expensive product from one of the most expensive trademarks.
Hope I get some more luck from support.

Chonwey said:
Same problem here; already 2 days waiting for my Sony smartphone support Account email activation and still waiting ( done it twice from hotmail and gmail ).
A short-time solution is to open the device, disconnect battery for some minutes and build it up all again---> the phone will work form some days/weeks until it start crapping again...really a shame product for Sony...whould expect more from such an expensive product from one of the most expensive trademarks.
Hope I get some more luck from support.
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Did you got some feedback ?
I'm running into the same issue right now.

i have this problem!!!!!!!!!
see this topic:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2761041
plz help my phone not warranty!!!(((
If the problem is the battery?
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i find problem:
problem with bms!!!
2 method for fix!
1.change battery
2.change battery and reset bms!!!

silverbios said:
i have this problem!!!!!!!!!
see this topic:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2761041
plz help my phone not warranty!!!(((
If the problem is the battery?
---------- Post added at 09:27 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:48 PM ----------
i find problem:
problem with bms!!!
2 method for fix!
1.change battery
2.change battery and reset bms!!!
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Whats bms??

ATRIXXIRTA said:
Whats bms??
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battery_management_system
No one knows what is in my country
plz help!!!!

lissyx said:
Did you got some feedback ?
I'm running into the same issue right now.
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No.
Change battery, problem solved.
They just can't accept the crappy battery they've used, still they know that's the issue.

It's funny that this phone is rated as having a 2370mah battery. But.....
Stock battery I had to replace:
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ATRIXXIRTA said:
It's funny that this phone is rated as having a 2370mah battery. But.....
Stock battery I had to replace: 2300mah
Replacement battery: 2330mah
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it's the battery
I had this problem, change the battery, buy it on ebay:good:

I have same problem.This is big problem of all xperia ZL!!!

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