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I have an HTC Sensation and the call quality is pretty poor. Hard to hear other person and I have it set to full volume. What's the quality like on the One X and if you owned a sensation before how does the call quality compare?
Can anyone answer this? Big part of whether i get the phone or not. Someone must have made a call. Thanks.
I've owned both and i'd say the One X is a big improvement for sure
I've had same problem with my x,but I also have a experia arc both are with Vodafone and they both have no signal bars or 1 or 2 at best.this isn't a phone problem as I thought it was its the network.my one x is unlocked and I've put a orange sim in and it now has 3 to 4 bars all the time,and I'm 2miles out of Manchester so plenty of masts about...
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I've owned both and i'd say the One X is a big improvement for sure
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Exactly the same experience for me.
I received my replacement one s due to call quality issues and the new one is even worse. everyone says i sound like im in a tin can as my voice is SUPER muffled. they can hear when i start and stop talking but the words just arent sharp enough to hear anything. wtf is going on with this phone?
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I received my replacement one s due to call quality issues and the new one is even worse. everyone says i sound like im in a tin can as my voice is SUPER muffled. they can hear when i start and stop talking but the words just arent sharp enough to hear anything. wtf is going on with this phone?
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Yeap, same thing here...
Arent other people facing this issue?
Even a lot of online reviews mentioned this. But i never thought the mic quality is going to be this troublesome.
I tried calling myself on an Atrix/Galaxy S/Galaxy note
I myself find the microphone quality quite cheap. It picks up the slightest of nicks and bumps but its definitely too muddy for the other persons comfort!!
The call volumes were very low on my G2 and Sensation in the past. They fixed that but messed up the microphone quality!
Seriously disappointing. Not buying a HTC device ever again!
Greetings, sorry if this is redundant thread but I feel maybe this would get buried under the RL reviews. I have seen this behavior on 4 Pixel 2 XL's so far, one being mine, one being my friends and the two other's being from Verizon and Best Buy displays. Rather than explain here is a small video, excuse the mediocre quality https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7FoxEZjgi0&feature=youtu.be . Not sure if it's a case of small poor quality speakers and the volume is set too loud and will be lowered in a future software update? I'm wondering if speakers are just trash in general and it's either put up with it or return it? Or the slight possibility of a bad batch of devices? Or just some freak luck to see 4 units exhibiting the same exact symptoms. Video and music playback do have the same issue at louder volumes, just not to that extent with using the speakerphone with voice calls. Has anyone else noticed this on their new devices? Thanks for your input.
Based on what i tried at verizon and comparing to my iphone 7+ its not good. Not that loud and lack of bass
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My speakers sort of have a hum/buzz at higher volumes... Do yall's?
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My speakers sort of have a hum/buzz at higher volumes... Do yall's?
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Yes, that's exactly what was going on to all four of the devices that I have listened to. My device, my friends device and two demo devices from Best Buy and the Verizon store. It seems to be most noticeable when making calls on speakerphone as was indicated in the video I posted. Music/videos it's still there but not as bad cause possibly the max volume isn't as loud vs a voice call. I'm guessing the speakers are too small and Google set the max volume way too high for what the speakers are capable of. Or could be something else I'm not aware of . Either way for $1k it's pretty sad.
Edit: Decided to get a replacement from Google. Hopefully the next unit isn't as bad.
Supposedly the corners of the screen are adhered to the rest of the phone using some kind of foam backers (look up the ifixit breakdown on this device). Because it's not a 'glue" and closer to a foam, this is apparently what is causing the perceived "buzzy" sound when the volume is too loud.
I will say I was watching videos on youtube last night while my phone was sitting on my dining room table, and it sounded crisp and clear even at 75% loudness. I did not notice any buzzing vibrations going through the display or the phone from the speakers.
Im curious if you hear more noise when pluged in for charging. This was issue when we had nexus 6 with stereo speaker.
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Yes, that's exactly what was going on to all four of the devices that I have listened to. My device, my friends device and two demo devices from Best Buy and the Verizon store. It seems to be most noticeable when making calls on speakerphone as was indicated in the video I posted. Music/videos it's still there but not as bad cause possibly the max volume isn't as loud vs a voice call. I'm guessing the speakers are too small and Google set the max volume way too high for what the speakers are capable of. Or could be something else I'm not aware of . Either way for $1k it's pretty sad.
Edit: Decided to get a replacement from Google. Hopefully the next unit isn't as bad.
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I noticed this on 3 different Pixel 2 XLs as well. Does your replacement have it?
Mine does this as well. I'm pretty sure every one of them does. I called Google support last night and of course the tech was either playing dumb or hadn't heard of this but I really can't see how they don't know this is an issue.
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I've noticed about 50% and higher and with high pitched tones on the bottom speaker of my pixel 2 xl gets like a weird vibration or rattle sound. Like something is loose or the speaker is rattling the screen.
I've been listening to mine with music full blast and no issues. Don't alter the sound with the equaliser and it's great. Bottom speaker is louder than the top, but no issues like these on mine.
I just got my 2nd RMA. All of the phones, including the original one, have exhibited the buzzing/vibration from the bottom firing speaker that you all speak of. There is a large thread that confirms this from pretty much everyone. It's very obvious at volume levels of about 80% or higher on my current device. I'm also starting to wonder if the earpiece is crappy too. I just made several rounds of calls and during each call, I could pick up a buzz during low pitched feedback from the other end.
Here is the other thread that covers this exactly. https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2-xl/help/speaker-rattle-distortion-t3699373
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I've been listening to mine with music full blast and no issues. Don't alter the sound with the equaliser and it's great. Bottom speaker is louder than the top, but no issues like these on mine.
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It's not noticeable when playing music, especially if it's something that's fast paced. Instead, watch a YT video with dialogue, i.e. Linus Tech Tips, at full volume. You'll hear it then.
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I noticed this on 3 different Pixel 2 XLs as well. Does your replacement have it?
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Yup, I'm still on my original XL 2 cause there was dirt/dead pixels on my 2nd device. After hearing people don't have the issue on the speakers (which I find hard to believe). I would like to see someone without the issue supposedly doing a speakerphone call above 40% volume to show there's no distortion. So I have my third one coming and I'm pretty sure I'll end up keeping my original. I have zero confidence that I'll get a better or equal screen (w/o dead pixels or black debris particles under the glass). Makes you really think that LG has piss poor QC since the glass is generally fused in OLED displays so you would imagine they would be producing in a sterile environment.
Got one in the mail today and it sounds way better on speakerphone calls. Still has a little of the distortion at 100% volume but it's very minuscule compared to before. Manufacture date of 11/21/17.
Does anybody else notice when watching videos, particularly, with people talking, that the bottom speaker rattles and distorts at higher volumes >50%?
I filed a RMA replacement for this very reason. My new device is shipped out today.
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I have it too.
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I filed a RMA replacement for this very reason. My new device is shipped out today.
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I have it too.
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Do you think they'll do some kind of update like lower the overall volume to mask this? I've looked on reddit and a lot of other people are having the same issue.
I decided after posting here that it was bad enough that I would roll the dice on an RMA replacement as well. Anything above around 50% just sounds like crap and the entire glass surface kinda buzzes in your hand. I don't see that being fixed in software...
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I decided after posting here that it was bad enough that I would roll the dice on an RMA replacement as well. Anything above around 50% just sounds like crap and the entire glass surface kinda buzzes in your hand. I don't see that being fixed in software...
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Let me know how your RMA device ends up. I was thinking that this could be due to the fact that the bottom speaker is louder than the top and that making them even would alleviate the problem?
Exact same issue. Also hope to hear how goes from those that RMA. I too notice it most with voices like the Google Assistant vs wider soudscape in music or video.
My speakers have very minor distortion on the highest volume, but any lower and there's none. Honestly the highest volume is much too loud for me anyway. These are the loudest speakers I've ever heard on a phone. They're just about as loud as my laptop.
No point in doing a RMA for this "issue" the volume is too high for the speakers. That or it's unbalanced, It's especially prevalent when you're making a call via speaker phone and ALL the volume is going through the bottom speaker. Both my friends units have it, I've been to three different Verizon stores and they all have it and same with the Best Buy units. Google will most likely lower the overall volume or correct the balance in a software update.
Shake, Rattle, and Roll.
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Does anybody else notice when watching videos, particularly, with people talking, that the bottom speaker rattles and distorts at higher volumes >50%?
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I had the same complaint. RMA unit (that was brand new) also had the rattling. Annoying. Every tech I chat with has not heard of this problem but it is covered in the Pixel product forums and here. I'm RMA'ing this one as well for the hellofit .. and because I just love re-setting up the phone and my watch... etc.
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I had the same complaint. RMA unit (that was brand new) also had the rattling. Annoying. Every tech I chat with has not heard of this problem but it is covered in the Pixel product forums and here. I'm RMA'ing this one as well for the hellofit .. and because I just love re-setting up the phone and my watch... etc.
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Honestly you're probably just wasting your time and frustrating yourself. Out of all the units I've seen around 8~ both pure black and panda they all had the rattle especially on speakerphone calls because all the volume is coming only from the bottom. It's probably just cheap ass LG speakers that cannot handle the volume that Google has set. I'm assuming they will push a software update to make speakerphone calls on both speakers and lower the overall volume.
Actually, the rattling on my devices was out of the top speaker... One of the speakers was tuned louder than the other. Can't remember which one.
I got a rma. Same problem.
This speaker issue is probably the final issue that will make me return this phone. The rattle is really annoying. The other big issue is color accuracy. Natural and Boosted are not sRGB and too muted. Saturated mode is like cartoon land and browns appear as orange.
These issues would be far less magnified if this phone costed $200 less. But at this price, it's just not worth it for me. Feels like too many compromises.
Yeah noticed the rattle too on the bottom speaker. It's very noticeable at the 75% or above. I don't remember my original device having this so I'm not sure if it was just quieter as this one does seem noticeably loud.
I spoke with Google about this issue today and they stated the upcoming November update should fix it. I HIGHLY doubt it's a software issue, but I figured I would give it a chance. I still expect to have to RMA this thing after receiving the update.
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This is a hardware fault in my opinion if you so lightly touch the speaker mesh it moves around, and it doesn't seem very firm to me. Not to mention the dust issue, I had my phone for a day or so and already I can see the dust build up around the speaker mesh (I'm very clean I don't just put my phone in any place). Too much room around the speaker mesh is probably an issue for long-term
I have this issue with my pixel 2 xl. I rma'd it and got another brand new replacement. The replacement device has the same issue.
The Nexus 6p had the same issue when it was released, Google then pushed an update and or was all fixed. Getting in this RMA vicious is not going to solve it.
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I have this also but I thought somebody on YouTube said that Google turned the top speaker down for this reason but maybe they didn't turn it down enough.
I was reading an article from bgr (link below) and they talked about a flaw that has not been talked about with the new pixel phones. They claim the speakers vibrate soo much when playing back music or video etc. that it feels like the vibration motor in the handset is on and is actually vibrating soo much you don't even want to hold the phone in your hand while audio is playing out the speakers.
The funny thing is I must have watched a zillion review videos and no one else has mentioned this. It would be weird that no one else caught this. I hope this is an isolated case if a case at all.
Anyone else heard of this issue?
https://bgr.com/2018/10/16/pixel-3-xl-review-supplement-design-flaw/
There's a huge difference between a flaw, and a feature/side effect. According to what is happening here the speakers are vibrating the phone from the sound of the speakers. There is no distortion, or sound issue, but a vibration side effect on the phone itself. It's like turning up your car stereo, or home theater, and the doors on the car vibrate, or the home speakers vibrate, and may even shake the walls. That is not a flaw, but a result of loud, sound speakers.
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There's a huge difference between a flaw, and a feature/side effect. According to what is happening here the speakers are vibrating the phone from the sound of the speakers. There is no distortion, or sound issue, but a vibration side effect on the phone itself. It's like turning up your car stereo, or home theater, and the doors on the car vibrate, or the home speakers vibrate, and may even shake the walls. That is not a flaw, but a result of loud, sound speakers.
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That's true but they claimed it was also significantly vibrating even at 50% volume. That's something I would expect at max volume. Either way we will see soon enough.
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That's true but they claimed it was also significantly vibrating even at 50% volume. That's something I would expect at max volume. Either way we will see soon enough.
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Because of the IP68 rating, its pretty sealed, and thats why youre getting that vibration. Theres nowhere for that air to go so its going to bump into the case.
There is definitely a bit of vibration on my phone when music is played through the speakers but I currently don't find it to be an issue.
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It's there AND the speakers are much louder than the 2 and quite crisp. I'll take the trade off
A good case might absorb it some....
I think it’s a flaw. I’ve seen so many reviews praising the speakers of the pixel and I was surprised to find out that the audio experience is really subpar. Compared to my iPhone XS Max the sound is night and day. The iPhone is louder, more clear, and overall more pleasing. Another user in another thread described the pixel audio as “everyone in videos sound like their mouths are full peanut butter when they talk” and it’s a very accurate description of the sound. Not to mention the phone does indeed vibrate a ton when you get anywhere north or 35% volume and most of the sound emitted comes through the bottom speaker making the whole auditory experience sound unbalanced and not truly stereo. Both the iPhone and Pixel have the same IP68 very but the iPhone absolutely smashes the pixel as far are speakers are concerned.
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I just got my pixel 3 xl setup and WOW im shocked at the amount of vibration from a video. I played a video of us singing happy birthday to my daughter on my Pixel 2 xl at 50% volume and near max say 90% and there is some vibration at the edges not much at the center. i then did the same test with the pixel 3 XL and its bad at 25% volume and gets worse from there the whole back vibrates right from the center out. both test with no case. Im going to pick up a case today and see if it absorbs some. This could be a deal breaker for me, i like to watch videos on my phone and that will just get annoying
Yeah there is a lot of vibration from the speakers thru the whole phone, my 2XL did not have that, the sound is a lot Fuller and louder then that phone though.
I have the Google fabric case and it does not reduce it at all.
It does not bother me to much, the buzzing/distortion on my lower speaker bothers me a lot.
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My phone arrived today and I have a spigen case waiting for it. When I get home Ill test this out and report back how it feels.
After some more use there is some odd sound issues , sending a text through the stock app the sound makes an odd sound that is not present on my pixel 2 xl . is like a tiny crackly vibration sound . i have similar sounds from pokemon go as well ...man this really stinks , i expected the sound to be like my pixel 2 xl
The fact the phone is vibrating without distortion is pretty awesome.
It indicates fuller sound with more audio being produced in the low end.
This is fantastic news.
I'm sorry ya'll wimpy hands can't handle vibrations.
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The fact the phone is vibrating without distortion is pretty awesome.
It indicates fuller sound with more audio being produced in the low end.
This is fantastic news.
I'm sorry ya'll wimpy hands can't handle vibrations.
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It’s not a matter of hands being bothered, at least not for me, it’s a matter of the sound being **** because there is too much low end frequency and resonance and the highs and mids become almost inaudible. I won’t use it without headphones now cause I just can’t understand and clearly, the sound coming from the music or videos. Either that’s or I’ll just pick up my iPhone because it sounds like a damn IMAX Dolby experience in comparison lmao
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The fact the phone is vibrating without distortion is pretty awesome.
It indicates fuller sound with more audio being produced in the low end.
This is fantastic news.
I'm sorry ya'll wimpy hands can't handle vibrations.
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My pixel 2 xl sounded nice with out the annoyance of a vibrating phone on every sound. i like fuller sound to a point. sure my hands can HANDle it ( lol sorry just being silly and had to bold hand) but do i want or like it is another story. i watched the same few videos and they sounded good on both phones ans sure the 3xl was a bit fuller but the vibrating was sorta distracting for me , there might even be some distorting from it as well.
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My pixel 2 xl sounded nice with out the annoyance of a vibrating phone on every sound. i like fuller sound to a point. sure my hands can HANDle it ( lol sorry just being silly and had to bold hand) but do i want or like it is another story. i watched the same few videos and they sounded good on both phones ans sure the 3xl was a bit fuller but the vibrating was sorta distracting for me , there might even be some distorting from it as well.
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This is my exact experience! If I’ve been watching videos on my pixel and then pick up my iPhone to watch a video it’s like I’ve steeped into an imax theatre with the Dolby atoms experience it’s so much better [emoji23]. Google needs to push an update to the sound tuning ASAP
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This is my exact experience! If I’ve been watching videos on my pixel and then pick up my iPhone to watch a video it’s like I’ve steeped into an imax theatre with the Dolby atoms experience it’s so much better [emoji23]. Google needs to push an update to the sound tuning ASAP
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Yeah i was comparing to my pixel 2 xl figured it was a fair comparison both with similar front firing speakers .... i i remember correctly my nexus 6P had some sound issues that was solved by updates so maybe they can reduce it a bit
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Yeah i was comparing to my pixel 2 xl figured it was a fair comparison both with similar front firing speakers .... i i remember correctly my nexus 6P had some sound issues that was solved by updates so maybe they can reduce it a bit
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I was just totally shocked because I’ve seen so many reviews praising these speakers especially when compared to the two new iPhones and that’s just not been my experience at all. Maybe it’s preference but I can’t imagine how these things are define as clear, crisp, etc
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I love the phone but hate the distortion of the speakers, I don't listen to music that much but it is so bad, even on YouTube videos.i might have to return this thing.
I have seen 3 phones so far and they all have that issue. Maybe I have to switch to the 10s Max.
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I love the phone but hate the distortion of the speakers, I don't listen to music that much but it is so bad, even on YouTube videos.i might have to return this thing.
I have seen 3 phones so far and they all have that issue. Maybe I have to switch to the 10s Max.
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Yeah everyone was going on about the notch and that's not too bad at all but the sounds is more of an issue for me at least , the 10s Max does sound good and doesn't vibrate like the 3xl, i was just comparing to my wife's. but man the only issue with that is using iOS
I noticed that the sound quality of the built-in speakers is... terrible... to be putting it mildly. Initially I thought there was just a lot of bass but during calls the sound is very "sharp" but not in a good way, more like hurting my ears piercing. When I'm playing videos or music, not only is the top speaker at most half of the lower speaker's volume, but the overall experience is like the phone was dropped into a tin can. I already tried Wavelet to balance the speakers but the sound quality still is abysmal. My 3.5 year-old S9+ outperforms the 6Pro by far. The little things that bother me with this phone keep adding up and I'm not sure how many more I can take. At least the call quality should be OK, right?
.... Hopefully it ain't anything wrong with your device but I definitely don't have such an issue. I think the sound is great. Honestly I'm kind of impressed at how well the top speaker sounds yet I can barely even see the speaker based on how seamless the screen goes into the frame at the top.
Is it the best sound of any smart phone... No I'm sure it's not. Is it better than my pixel 4XL which had great sound to me, Yes. They are actually the same loudness yet the 6 pro sound is clearer at full volume. I understand that sound is subjective however I would have to 1000% disagree with you.
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.... Hopefully it ain't anything wrong with your device but I definitely don't have such an issue. I think the sound is great. Honestly I'm kind of impressed at how well the top speaker sounds yet I can barely even see the speaker based on how seamless the screen goes into the frame at the top.
Is it the best sound of any smart phone... No I'm sure it's not. Is it better than my pixel 4XL which had great sound to me, Yes. They are actually the same loudness yet the 6 pro sound is clearer at full volume. I understand that sound is subjective however I would have to 1000% disagree with you.
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Same here but not quite as loud as my Note 20 Ultra.
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.... Hopefully it ain't anything wrong with your device but I definitely don't have such an issue. I think the sound is great. Honestly I'm kind of impressed at how well the top speaker sounds yet I can barely even see the speaker based on how seamless the screen goes into the frame at the top.
Is it the best sound of any smart phone... No I'm sure it's not. Is it better than my pixel 4XL which had great sound to me, Yes. They are actually the same loudness yet the 6 pro sound is clearer at full volume. I understand that sound is subjective however I would have to 1000% disagree with you.
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So there might be something wrong with the device? The sound is basically like a 48 kbit MP3 file
EDIT: Maybe I'll head over to Best Buy this weekend to talk to the folks there and get a replacement if necessary.
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So there might be something wrong with the device? The sound is basically like a 48 kbit MP3 file
EDIT: Maybe I'll head over to Best Buy this weekend to talk to the folks there and get a replacement if necessary.
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So there might be something wrong with the device? The sound is basically like a 48 kbit MP3 file
EDIT: Maybe I'll head over to Best Buy this weekend to talk to the folks there and get a replacement if necessary.
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I have no complaints about the sound from mine. Nothing like you've described. I do hope that you get it worked out.
In developer settings you can change the stereo balance if you need to.
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I have no complaints about the sound from mine. Nothing like you've described. I do hope that you get it worked out.
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Thank you! I'll let y'all know
ironically a semi audiophile on reddit did a full on rant today how the audio had too much bass
meanwhile reviews say the speakers sound good and have actual bass for once but the mids/high increase the higher the volume gets
honestly these are very good sounding speakers for a smartphone especially when i compare to my galaxy note 9
For me the speakers are great, I have compared the sound with the iphone 13 and I have to say the pixels are better, at least for me. I know that for some they have too much bass, but for me it is perfect
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I noticed that the sound quality of the built-in speakers is... terrible... to be putting it mildly. Initially I thought there was just a lot of bass but during calls the sound is very "sharp" but not in a good way, more like hurting my ears piercing. When I'm playing videos or music, not only is the top speaker at most half of the lower speaker's volume, but the overall experience is like the phone was dropped into a tin can. I already tried Wavelet to balance the speakers but the sound quality still is abysmal. My 3.5 year-old S9+ outperforms the 6Pro by far. The little things that bother me with this phone keep adding up and I'm not sure how many more I can take. At least the call quality should be OK, right?
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I don't know how good the S9+ sounds, never had one. What I can tell is that the P6 Pro sounds good, it has a slight imbalance between top and bottom, but in terms of clarity and bass, it's a good sounding phone speaker. So either your expectations are extraodinary, or your device is defective. Best go to the place where you bought it and ask that the store rep compares the sound of your phone to one that they have on display, that way you can quickly find out if your device has a defect.
Thank you all! Is there a good app or sound piece that I can use to test?
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I don't know how good the S9+ sounds, never had one. What I can tell is that the P6 Pro sounds good, it has a slight imbalance between top and bottom, but in terms of clarity and bass, it's a good sounding phone speaker. So either your expectations are extraodinary, or your device is defective. Best go to the place where you bought it and ask that the store rep compares the sound of your phone to one that they have on display, that way you can quickly find out if your device has a defect.
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I wanted to go to the local Betsy Buy (bought it online through BB) but it's not available there. Not sure they could give me a device to compare mine to
I honestly felt the same way comparing the 6P to my 2 XL. the 6P sounds rather flat and unbalanced. Much prefer the older device.
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I honestly felt the same way comparing the 6P to my 2 XL. the 6P sounds rather flat and unbalanced. Much prefer the older device.
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Wow really? You have them side by side and compared? I ask because my 4 XL was definitely better than my 2 XL and the 6 Pro is definitely louder and has more range than my 4 XL at all volume increments. I agree it's ever so slightly louder on the bottom speaker than the ear piece one but it's not horrible.
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Wow really? You have them side by side and compared? I ask because my 4 XL was definitely better than my 2 XL and the 6 Pro is definitely louder and has more range than my 4 XL at all volume increments. I agree it's ever so slightly louder on the bottom speaker than the ear piece one but it's not horrible.
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I checked out the demo models at best buy both the 6 and pro. I will say at max volume the new devices are cleaner sounding.
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I checked out the demo models at best buy both the 6 and pro. I will say at max volume the new devices are cleaner sounding.
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Yeah in your home or reasonably quieter area than Best Buy, the difference is very noticeable. I keep all my sound volumes a little lower than my 4 XL settings because it's that much louder.