There's so many different ROM versions, that average human being cannot say which one is the newest or best....
So, why don't create a thread named 'ROM versions list' managed by ONLY ONE responsible person?
It can contain links to ROMS according to date or version, when the newest one will be at the end.
That way the newbies like me will know which one to flash, and it would put end to all this dumm questions like 'which to install' or 'which is the best' or finally 'which one is the quickest'
How do you, guys, think?
There already IS a HTC Diamond ROMs list
But it WOULD be a good idea to sort it by author and version.
Any other ROMs would be moved by mods to this topic.
Exacly.
I know, there IS such thread, but there's lot of junk in it, so it's hard to find valuable information without reading all these replys...
I dream about PURE LIST, ROMs sorted by versions with direct links...
Does anyone too?
Can almighty MOD hear our prayers?
be careful what you say, me and another couple of members raised this issue as we got this responce from a mod:
Most importantly, just READ instead of polluting with useless threads in the development section
i am a member of many other forums and which have multiple versions of software for the same purpose, they have constructed a poll which is of great help to indentify the most beneficial rom for joe blogs. They also have created a better managed thread than the one on this forum for the diff versions.
Maybe its just a lack of management knowledge or a mods opinions, but something needs to be done, there are multiple new rom threads appearing each day, and threads such as this one will only increase is something isnt done.
(To most of you gurus out here this will probably sound pathetic)
I'm new to this whole world of mod-ing phones. I have been reading on this forum for months, but have never posted in fear of being humiliated via. an forum post.
I would like to begin flashing and experimenting but just can't afford to brick my phone, not that anyone really wants to....
Is there a particular group/chef thread that would be most beneficial to my stage of communicatory development?? If so, would someone be so kind as to direct me to the appropriate page?
Thanks guys, your knowledge and expertise is admired and envied!
1bad10r said:
(To most of you gurus out here this will probably sound pathetic)
I'm new to this whole world of mod-ing phones. I have been reading on this forum for months, but have never posted in fear of being humiliated via. an forum post.
I would like to begin flashing and experimenting but just can't afford to brick my phone, not that anyone really wants to....
Is there a particular group/chef thread that would be most beneficial to my stage of communicatory development?? If so, would someone be so kind as to direct me to the appropriate page?
Thanks guys, your knowledge and expertise is admired and envied!
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I would start here and make sure you read and understand everything first...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550540
Since you're new to the Rhodium, I'd also advise reading the Rhodium wiki article on the XDA-Developers Wiki. The stickies at the top of each forum also can contain important information which is usually pretty helpful.
1bad10r said:
(To most of you gurus out here this will probably sound pathetic)
I'm new to this whole world of mod-ing phones. I have been reading on this forum for months, but have never posted in fear of being humiliated via. an forum post.
I would like to begin flashing and experimenting but just can't afford to brick my phone, not that anyone really wants to....
Is there a particular group/chef thread that would be most beneficial to my stage of communicatory development?? If so, would someone be so kind as to direct me to the appropriate page?
Thanks guys, your knowledge and expertise is admired and envied!
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A critical first question is whether you have a GSM phone (T-Mobile, ATT, most-of-the-world) or CDMA phone (Verizon, Sprint). ROMs (operating system and built-in apps, sort-of) intended for one type of phone are not compatible with the other type.
If you have a CDMA phone check out this sub-forum: Rhodium CDMA Start with the first/top thread.
(jhernand1102 already supplied the "start here" thread for GSM phones)
As far as installing custom/new applications (as opposed to ROMs) there's not much to fear -- bricking-wise. Most apps are easily uninstalled, and at worst you might have to "hard-reset" your phone, which wipes everything and resets to the orginal state (either factory-original or most-recent OS-rom).
Are you a Noob with alot of questions? MYSELF & MANY OTHERS BEG OF YOU TO READ THIS!
Hello Noobs, and welcome to the XDA Galaxy S3 US variant forums! I've been answering alot of questions in the q&a section, and many in the general section where they don't belong, regarding issues that I like to refer to as "Android Hacking 101". These questions are, but not limited to, things such as how do I root my phone, what is a bootloader, how do I get better battery life and maximum performance and make my gs3 the greatest most wonderful thing on earth that everyone will be jealous of? (I made that last one up, but you get the idea, lol) I was a noob not so long ago, and I still have lots of questions, but I've learned how to walk that fine line of asking a question without making anyone want to shoot me, and also how to effectively search. I have a website to share with you all and you'll find it in the link below. The website is galaxys3root.com founded by user zedomax and he has tons of sites specific to several phones! He's an amazing guy who has tons of knowledge that he's kind enough to share with the world. On his Site you'll find both written & video tutorials where he will personally walk you through the rooting process, installing a custom recovery image(cwm), and installing a rom! He will also review some of the top roms for each gs3 variant and describe the features of the rom in detail. His sites are a great way for beginners to not only get their phones rooted, hacked, & with custom Rom, but to actually learn what exactly all of these processes are. I will also leave a link to his Site androidroot.org, where you'll find a plethora of other Android hacking videos that will provide you with tips and information regarding android development, and he's also quite entertaining. Please check out both of these sites, and I promise you'll learn a few things if all of this is new to you! Please remember to thank zedomax if you see him here on the XDA forums. I answer most any questions for beginners politely and I try to be as helpful as I can by sharing anything that I understand enough to share. I'm far from an advanced user, but I'm an avid reader and I soak in as much as I possibly can here on XDA. If you are new and you have any questions after you check out zedomax's sites, then please feel free to PM me & if I can't help you then I'll at least get you pointed in the direction of a thread or someone that can. I did not make this post to bust anyone's balls, like I said I'm no pro & I had all the same questions not too long ago, but I've been seeing a lot of these questions floating around and I've been including these links in all of my answers so I thought I would just make a post with the links as opposed to answering the same questions over & over. Good luck to all of you, and enjoy your new device!
Sincerely,
Androholic
androidroot.org http://androidroot.org/
galaxys3root.com http://galaxys3root.com/
androholic said:
Hello Noobs, and welcome to the XDA Galaxy S3 US variant forums! I've been answering alot of questions in the q&a section, and many in the general section where they don't belong, regarding issues that I like to refer to as "Android Hacking 101". These questions are, but not limited to, things such as how do I root my phone, what is a bootloader, how do I get better battery life and maximum performance and make my gs3 the greatest most wonderful thing on earth that everyone will be jealous of? (I made that last one up, but you get the idea, lol) I was a noob not so long ago, and I still have lots of questions, but I've learned how to walk that fine line of asking a question without making anyone want to shoot me, and also how to effectively search. I have a website to share with you all and you'll find it in the link below. The website is galaxys3root.com founded by user zedomax and he has tons of sites specific to several phones! He's an amazing guy who has tons of knowledge that he's kind enough to share with the world. On his Site you'll find both written & video tutorials where he will personally walk you through the rooting process, installing a custom recovery image(cwm), and installing a rom! He will also review some of the top roms for each gs3 variant and describe the features of the rom in detail. His sites are a great way for beginners to not only get their phones rooted, hacked, & with custom Rom, but to actually learn what exactly all of these processes are. I will also leave a link to his Site androidroot.org, where you'll find a plethora of other Android hacking videos that will provide you with tips and information regarding android development, and he's also quite entertaining. Please check out both of these sites, and I promise you'll learn a few things if all of this is new to you! Please remember to thank zedomax if you see him here on the XDA forums. I answer most any questions for beginners politely and I try to be as helpful as I can by sharing anything that I understand enough to share. I'm far from an advanced user, but I'm an avid reader and I soak in as much as I possibly can here on XDA. If you are new and you have any questions after you check out zedomax's sites, then please feel free to PM me & if I can't help you then I'll at least get you pointed in the direction of a thread or someone that can. I did not make this post to bust anyone's balls, like I said I'm no pro & I had all the same questions not too long ago, but I've been seeing a lot of these questions floating around and I've been including these links in all of my answers so I thought I would just make a post with the links as opposed to answering the same questions over & over. Good luck to all of you, and enjoy your new device!
Sincerely,
Androholic
androidroot.org http://androidroot.org/
galaxys3root.com http://galaxys3root.com/
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Great thread! I will probably also be hanging around here answering some questions so feel free to ask!
I'm looking for a stable 4.4 which would be as stable as possible. The reason for this is that I use my Nexus for alarm clock and it's really unpleasant if I find it in SOD when I oversleep. I don't really need so much additional features, it's a bonus though, but it's more important that it's fast and bugless.
Are there any or should I stay on Cataclysm 4.3?
Well, you can only reliably know which ROM is the most stable by trying them yourself. That's part of the culture of XDA, to try ROMs from different developers and then to give feedback on them.
As for me, I just installed the latest CM11 nightly and it seems reasonably stable. Will test the battery life and stability for a few more days after installing some apps. Will try XenonHD next if this one isn't stable enough or has poor battery life. The phone does get hot when I'm running heavy applications and games, which is the only problem I have noticed so far.
Im running the CM11 Nightlies as well and cant complain at all. Havent had any issues with any of them. I usually update every couple days to the latest nightly.
If it's just using the device as an alarm, then CM11 nightlies would be quite enough. I've been using my own GNex as an alarm too.
Sent from Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE @ CM11
I've read through several ROM threads that a lot of them have have slowdowns and lags. Is that also the case for CM11? How about other CM based ROMs, like CM-remix?
Can't say much about other roms (aside from CM i've only ever tried AOKP jb-mr2 briefly), i'm on CM11 M2 right now and i can say it's smooth and has no hiccups and lags - much better than stock 4.3 and cm10.2 which i had beforehand.
I'm also using the device as an alarm clock and it works well.
Seriously? How many times do people have to be told that threads like this are against XDA rules. If you want a stable rom then try some roms out yourself and decide what you prefer for yourself. This is a development community meant for people that want to take the initiative to learn and do for themselves not a place for people to have others do their work for them.
Do some reading and you'll surely find the answers you seek.
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I'm looking for a stable 4.4 which would be as stable as possible.
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me too. cant find anything. CM blows, pa has graphics glitches and vanir gives me reboots.
tried em all and they all seem to suck.
4.3 is waaaay smoother for me.
a stock 4.4.2 build would be great.
if anyone finds any decent roms + a good 4.4 kernel (Franco/Faux) or two let me know.
Nephilim, sorry, I thought that it's forbidden to open only general ROM comparison threads, but I'm asking only for the ideas of pretty specific needs. You could also take this thread as a discussion if 4.4 ROMs in general are really stable enough for everyday use.
Not all of us have time to test every build of every ROM, because it would take a bit too much. That's why we have a community here to ask others for their opinion and experiences. At least that's how I imagine it, but of course, I might be wrong.
Nephilim said:
not a place for people to have others do their work for them
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what is your problem anyway ?
since when is illegal to ask for some information ? i was also curious for some information about custom roms and i stumbled upon the same message from you several times
if i ask for any useful information.....am i automatically a lazy who prefers to have others do my work ?
iconicpaul said:
what is your problem anyway ?
since when is illegal to ask for some information ? i was also curious for some information about custom roms and i stumbled upon the same message from you several times
if i ask for any useful information.....am i automatically a lazy who prefers to have others do my work ?
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No it isnt illegal. But these threads are pointless... There is no best ROM so these threads will never be solved/answered. And the devs work hard to build a ROM and then some people in a thread will tell him his ROM sucks and the other one is better.. Its personal preference anyway. And every ROM is stable otherwise they wouldnt be released on xda (except when told otherwise or in beta etc.). Thats the whole point. There are tons of these threads. They are just useless. Just try out a ROM and if it suits your needs be happy and thank the developer and if you arent just move on to the next one.
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mrgnex said:
No it isnt illegal. But these threads are pointless... There is no best ROM so these threads will never be solved/answered. And the devs work hard to build a ROM and then some people in a thread will tell him his ROM sucks and the other one is better.. Its personal preference anyway. And every ROM is stable otherwise they wouldnt be released on xda (except when told otherwise or in beta etc.). Thats the whole point. There are tons of these threads. They are just useless. Just try out a ROM and if it suits your needs be happy and thank the developer and if you arent just move on to the next one.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA Premium HD app
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acknowledged, thank you
iconicpaul said:
what is your problem anyway ?
since when is illegal to ask for some information ? i was also curious for some information about custom roms and i stumbled upon the same message from you several times
if i ask for any useful information.....am i automatically a lazy who prefers to have others do my work ?
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My problem is that if you aren't willing to put in the work and try roms yourself you have no business on a development forum. Asking others is just looking for someone else to do the work for you. Threads like this are basically spam because any info you need can be found in the threads made for each rom. If you are asking in a thread like this you are definitely lazy because you obviously dont want to put in the effort of finding the information by reading the rom threads. Mrgnex pretty much said the rest.
Sent from my Android 4.4.2 Galaxy Nexus
ParanoidAndroid 4 BETA
I'm using an edited version of ParanoidAndroid 4 BETA. The official beta has some graphical issues and random freezes, but the edited version is very stable with no problems at all. It's based on Android 4.4.2. Give it a try: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2589481
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My problem is that if you aren't willing to put in the work and try roms yourself you have no business on a development forum. Asking others is just looking for someone else to do the work for you. Threads like this are basically spam because any info you need can be found in the threads made for each rom. If you are asking in a thread like this you are definitely lazy because you obviously dont want to put in the effort of finding the information by reading the rom threads. Mrgnex pretty much said the rest.
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I'd fully agree with your comments, IF this thread was posted in development section, but it's not, it's in the GENERAL section.
So I don't see why NORMAL users(AKA non-flashaholics) can't freely discuss which ROM they prefer, regardless of stability.
BTW
I've tried out a lot of different/newer ROM's from 4.1 to 4.4.2 yet every time I've still went back to using PA 4.1.2 for over a year now, since no other ROM have the exact same great features I enjoy using daily.
Also I don't see why any Developer would really care if certain people dislike their ROM's, seeing as the whole reason they created one would be because they disliked the other ROM's available and wanted to build one them selves to their liking, many using the same features from other developers, just with their own tweaks.
Which is what I'm thinking I'll have learn to do since every ROM I've tested has some feature that's just not working as I'd like.
You suggesting every user go and test out every ROM just means there will be more individual threads created complaining about every ROM they flash/test.
So don't you think it's better to have 1 or 2 main ROM version threads in the GENERAL section to DISCUSS different individual Rom's in the GENERAL matter?
In other words if you don't really have anything to help out in the thread topic/discussion then just don't view it.
I personally enjoy reading about what others have to say, likely saving me time and headache from having to test out every Rom's myself.
I very much doubt there would be as many Rom's available as there are today if nobody discussed them.
Wasn't that the whole point of having an open sourced android OS?
isajoo said:
I'd fully agree with your comments, IF this thread was posted in development section, but it's not, it's in the GENERAL section.
So I don't see why NORMAL users(AKA non-flashaholics) can't freely discuss which ROM they prefer, regardless of stability.
BTW
I've tried out a lot of different/newer ROM's from 4.1 to 4.4.2 yet every time I've still went back to using PA 4.1.2 for over a year now, since no other ROM have the exact same great features I enjoy using daily.
Also I don't see why any Developer would really care if certain people dislike their ROM's, seeing as the whole reason they created one would be because they disliked the other ROM's available and wanted to build one them selves to their liking, many using the same features from other developers, just with their own tweaks.
Which is what I'm thinking I'll have learn to do since every ROM I've tested has some feature that's just not working as I'd like.
You suggesting every user go and test out every ROM just means there will be more individual threads created complaining about every ROM they flash/test.
So don't you think it's better to have 1 or 2 main ROM version threads in the GENERAL section to DISCUSS different individual Rom's in the GENERAL matter?
In other words if you don't really have anything to help out in the thread topic/discussion then just don't view it.
I personally enjoy reading about what others have to say, likely saving me time and headache from having to test out every Rom's myself.
I very much doubt there would be as many Rom's available as there are today if nobody discussed them.
Wasn't that the whole point of having an open sourced android OS?
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First of all, threads like this would not be constantly deleted by Senior Moderators if they were allowed. Next, I never once said that everyone should go and try every rom. I said that people need to go to the rom threads and READ, if the rom seems like something they would like to try then they should flash it, if not move onto another rom. Next, after flashing the said rom they are trying they can READ the thread pertaining to said rom to find answers to their questions.
You see where I am going here?
There is NO REASON for threads like this. All the information anyone could need can be found in the rom threads. If an individual needs to make a thread like this it just says that they are too lazy to read all the information that is already provided in multiple threads, available to everyone. If you want to discuss a rom then make a community on Google+, I already have done the same. This site is called XDA Developers. If you have questions about a rom then read the thread about the rom and if you do not see the question you have already asked then go ahead and ask it.
If you want to make a thread here in the general section to discuss a rom you have already flashed and are running, that would not be a big issue either but..... Making a thread simply to ask others to tell you which rom is most stable or which rom is the best serve no purpose but to congest areas of XDA with useless spam.
If you are here, you have either rooted your device or plan to, either way if you are here for that then you have enough brains to read and gain knowledge the correct way by doing the legwork yourself.
If the amount of effort you put into trying to debate my legitimate reasons why this thread does not belong was put into discovering roms for yourself then there would never be a need for anyone to make a thread like this.
Bottomline, only lazy people make threads like this and XDA is for forum for adults seeking to enhance their knowledge of mobile development by way of contribution, not a G+ community to request everyone do your work for you while you sit around posting screenshots of your homescreen and icon theme.
Not a thing anyone responds to me with will justify these type of useless threads. Every way you can learn what you need about roms has been mentioned in my posts and none of them require an entire thread dedicated to asking others to give you the answers.
Nephilim said:
First of all, threads like this would not be constantly deleted by Senior Moderators if they were allowed. Next, I never once said that everyone should go and try every rom. I said that people need to go to the rom threads and READ, if the rom seems like something they would like to try then they should flash it, if not move onto another rom. Next, after flashing the said rom they are trying they can READ the thread pertaining to said rom to find answers to their questions.
You see where I am going here?
There is NO REASON for threads like this. All the information anyone could need can be found in the rom threads. If an individual needs to make a thread like this it just says that they are too lazy to read all the information that is already provided in multiple threads, available to everyone. If you want to discuss a rom then make a community on Google+, I already have done the same. This site is called XDA Developers. If you have questions about a rom then read the thread about the rom and if you do not see the question you have already asked then go ahead and ask it.
If you want to make a thread here in the general section to discuss a rom you have already flashed and are running, that would not be a big issue either but..... Making a thread simply to ask others to tell you which rom is most stable or which rom is the best serve no purpose but to congest areas of XDA with useless spam.
If you are here, you have either rooted your device or plan to, either way if you are here for that then you have enough brains to read and gain knowledge the correct way by doing the legwork yourself.
If the amount of effort you put into trying to debate my legitimate reasons why this thread does not belong was put into discovering roms for yourself then there would never be a need for anyone to make a thread like this.
Bottomline, only lazy people make threads like this and XDA is for forum for adults seeking to enhance their knowledge of mobile development by way of contribution, not a G+ community to request everyone do your work for you while you sit around posting screenshots of your homescreen and icon theme.
Not a thing anyone responds to me with will justify these type of useless threads. Every way you can learn what you need about roms has been mentioned in my posts and none of them require an entire thread dedicated to asking others to give you the answers.
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I would respectfully disagree. Not everyone has followed the entire course of development for the Galaxy Nexus from the beginning. It is hard to know where to start if you are just now reading up on things (as I am). People are trying to do their research otherwise they would just flash any old thing and then complain when nothing works.
In many other fields (I work in biology) it is very common to have a review article to get people up to speed on a specific topic without them having to read every primary piece of evidence on a topic because that is a lot of needless repetitive work that has already been done. It isn't being lazy. It is being efficient.
I stumbled upon this thread and found it to be EXACTLY what I was looking for and very relevant. Just a quick guide to let me know if it was worth looking into kitkat roms or if (as I suspected) I should stick with Jelly Bean roms for now since stability is also my primary goal. I can't understand the hostile nature towards people trying to educate themselves that seems to permeate xda sometimes...
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I would respectfully disagree. Not everyone has followed the entire course of development for the Galaxy Nexus from the beginning. It is hard to know where to start if you are just now reading up on things (as I am). People are trying to do their research otherwise they would just flash any old thing and then complain when nothing works.
In many other fields (I work in biology) it is very common to have a review article to get people up to speed on a specific topic without them having to read every primary piece of evidence on a topic because that is a lot of needless repetitive work that has already been done. It isn't being lazy. It is being efficient.
I stumbled upon this thread and found it to be EXACTLY what I was looking for and very relevant. Just a quick guide to let me know if it was worth looking into kitkat roms or if (as I suspected) I should stick with Jelly Bean roms for now since stability is also my primary goal. I can't understand the hostile nature towards people trying to educate themselves that seems to permeate xda sometimes...
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Apparently you have not read a word of what I posted.
There is NO reason for these type of posts because all the information you seek on a rom or kernel is in their respective thread. Even if you do not want to use them you still have all the review you need from people on the thread that actually used the rom or kernel, these threads are a copout for lazy people that do not take the time to read where the information is already easily accessible. These types of threads are spam, they are made by people who come to XDA and do not even put a second of time into looking through threads before just expecting that posting a new thread and asking about what is the best will get them all the info they need without any effort.
I have said this many times already, In school, when you have a test or assignment, does your teacher give that test or assignment to you and then immediately hand over the answers? Hell no they don't, they expect you to research and study to find the answers. As adults that is what should be done here as well, otherwise you ultimately learn nothing.
I use the official 4.4.2 gummy build and it is very stable for me and have not encountered any issues.
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I am using VanirAOSP. Its very fast and also stable!
Hello to all, I have been looking over so many roms it can be overwhelming, I am looking for some help in finding a good stable ROM that will be on KitKat 4.4.2 for my T-Mobile SGH-M919 that I am running on a different carrier by the way actually AIO Wireless which runs off of AT&T Towers.
Would be nice to find one that has features like call recording and lots of customization's and maybe some Variants from the new Galaxy S5 or Note 3.
Im currently running Hyperdrive but having lots of issues with it although it is an awesome Rom,
So if you will, any recommendations from you Pro's and Newbies alike as I am still a Newbie myself I would greatly appreciate some feedback as to finding a good stable ROM
Also would like to know what is a good Kernel to use I flashed Ktoonsez Kernel and when I boot up I get this message on the top left "Kernel is not seandroid enforcing set warranty bit" can someone tell me what that is all about, as I do notice problems with applications and other things.
So what so you guys recommend please please please any help is so greatly appreciated
Thanks so much:fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
Louie
XDA is a development site not a support site. As such members are expected to do the research, read through the development threads and decide what is BEST for them. The only results that would be posted here are what each member has found to be BEST for them by experimentation based on their phone/usage/setup/apps/signal strength. Please take the time to read through those development threads to learn all about the software you are about to drastically alter your very expensive device with.
Sorry for the inconvenience and thank you for your cooperation.
Thread closed.
Have a great day!