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SWIM wants to know if there is a way to brick an unrooted AT&T HOX that is on 2.20 firmware purposely. And if so, how? Thanks in advance fellow xda members...
i think yes but you would need an s-off(doesn't break warranty) phone or unlocked bootloader(breaks warranty) in s-on, how ?
im not sure, but pulling usb out while flashing an ruu will most likely do it.
The real and interesting question would be why ?
Vcek said:
i think yes but you would need an s-off(doesn't break warranty) phone or unlocked bootloader(breaks warranty) in s-on, how ?
im not sure, but pulling usb out while flashing an ruu will most likely do it.
The real and interesting question would be why ?
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S-OFF is still a WIP so that's a no and it doesn't have an unlocked bootloader either. It's stock, brand new out of the box from AT&T and the HOX the rep gave us had 2.20 already on it...
Me n my pal are working on a little experiment, if it works, we'll tell you guys all about it. Also, been reading thru the thinktank trying to brainstorm some ideas for root also...
the lack of a removable battery makes bricking it a less of a possibility.. =/
pulling the usb mid disk transfer of a file wouldn't do anything but make the file corrupt and unusable, right?
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S-OFF is still a WIP so that's a no and it doesn't have an unlocked bootloader either. It's stock, brand new out of the box from AT&T and the HOX the rep gave us had 2.20 already on it...
Me n my pal are working on a little experiment, if it works, we'll tell you guys all about it. Also, been reading thru the thinktank trying to brainstorm some ideas for root also...
the lack of a removable battery makes bricking it a less of a possibility.. =/
pulling the usb mid disk transfer of a file wouldn't do anything but make the file corrupt and unusable, right?
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What level of "bricked" are you looking for ? 1- can't be fixed by just a personal computer or 2-as useful as a piece of rock ?
Type 1: Removing the usb while flashing a radio/kernel update(using ruu.exe flasher from htc) will cause a corrupt bootloader/kernel and the phone might not be able to start the hardware (and hence bricked i guess)
to brick it you would have to make the bootloader(hardware) unable to recover itself,
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if you really want it hard-bricked you can just connect all connectors on the motherboard randomly with a metal foil/wool.(tryed it on my laptop and worked)
EDIT: the bios chip was already soft-bricked due to a non-compatible feature that didn't allow my RAM to start, although motherboard WAS powering on)
You know its almost impossible to brick a phone as long as the hardware is ok, whether rooted or not. As manufacturers can flash stuff directly onto the chip.
Vcek said:
What level of "bricked" are you looking for ? 1- can't be fixed by just a personal computer or 2-as useful as a piece of rock ?
Type 1: Removing the usb while flashing a radio/kernel update(using ruu.exe flasher from htc) will cause a corrupt bootloader/kernel and the phone might not be able to start the hardware (and hence bricked i guess)
to brick it you would have to make the bootloader(hardware) unable to recover itself,
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if you really want it hard-bricked you can just connect all connectors on the motherboard randomly with a metal foil/wool.(tryed it on my laptop and worked)
EDIT: the bios chip was already soft-bricked due to a non-compatible feature that didn't allow my RAM to start, although motherboard WAS powering on)
You know its almost impossible to brick a phone as long as the hardware is ok, whether rooted or not. As manufacturers can flash stuff directly onto the chip.
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hmm.. good info, the case is fairly easy to remove without doing any physical damage to it. So just some foil to the connectors touching each other should short circuit it... that might work.
I can't flash a kernel or anything because it isn't rooted and can't root it either cause there isn't an exploit yet.
I'll try the foil out n see how that works.
Thanks dude.
doubledrake20 said:
hmm.. good info, the case is fairly easy to remove without doing any physical damage to it. So just some foil to the connectors touching each other should short circuit it... that might work.
I can't flash a kernel or anything because it isn't rooted and can't root it either cause there isn't an exploit yet.
I'll try the foil out n see how that works.
Thanks dude.
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I think you can flash an RUU without rooting (you CAN'T flash an ruu with the bootloader UNLOCKED, not sure will work with "locked" but definitely will work with "relocked")
And for trying out the foil, i recommend you to be very careful as the warranty can be void by just opening the case(says so in manual)
I'm looking for the PIT files for Sprint's Note 4. Or does anyone know if the PIT for SM-N910F will work. Is the (F) version compatible in all of the Sprint versions. I.E. when looking for Sprint programs there is no SM-N910(P) but always a SM-N910(F). Is it safe to use the F version? Or is there a safe way to update/redo the bootloaders? I flashed some bad files with Odin right around the BOB7 udate and my device has been spinning in circles around that since. Even if I go full stock and Odin the latest firmware my device is set back to that period from a protected file that is in between bootloaders. I can't touch it. The closest I can get is with a terminal command from TWRP [/sbin/recovery] I can then chmod the files and erase or do whatever with them but they are restored in cold boot. Even after flashing the official firmware it reverts to the files from BOB7. What's really crazy is I'm running stock firmware so can not use xposed but if I mount data and system wipe and then run uberwipe my device will boot with xposed apps functional. It is as if I am running two ROMS one that can not be removed or changed. I can see it happening but not from where exactly. In cold boot it loads the RO biuld from /dev/block/platforms/msm_scc1.by_name/hidden. I can find everything but the hidden. In the stock recovery logs it says the command to fix it is wipe_data_crypto but I can't accomplish it. Any suggestions?
PIT for Sprint Note 4 is here:
http://www.sammobile.com/forum/showthread.php?p=137840 No links are permitted by the developer; please respect that.
Not experiencing what you have and not attempting to fix what isn't broken, can't say what works but from what you describe, it sounds like you may have attempted to flash an older bootloader which isn't advised.
You may consider it's risky to try to undo that but first verify your reactivation lock is disabled. If your eMMC is OK, it might be OK to try to Odin PIT with repartition and nand erase all with an acceptable tar OG5 or higher loaded in AP slot. Always use PIT for repartition but only use if needed. And use at your own risk.
No guarantee but consider the risk and IF you have an issue with boot after Odin, you may need to factory reset in stock recovery and try the stock tar again (it's important to try that first without panicking). Always power down and pull battery before flashing stock tar. Also make sure you have ample battery charge. These days, 80% is recommended because there's a lot of weak batteries out there. Consider a new battery if older than 12 months or requiring frequent charging or phone shuts down before 0%. (I don't recommend full discharge, just that some batteries start shutting down around 20% when going bad. It only gets worse after that.)
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PIT for Sprint Note 4 is here:
http://www.sammobile.com/forum/showthread.php?p=137840 No links are permitted by the developer; please respect that.
Not experiencing what you have and not attempting to fix what isn't broken, can't say what works but from what you describe, it sounds like you may have attempted to flash an older bootloader which isn't advised.
You may consider it's risky to try to undo that but first verify your reactivation lock is disabled. If your eMMC is OK, it might be OK to try to Odin PIT with repartition and nand erase all with an acceptable tar OG5 or higher loaded in AP slot. Always use PIT for repartition but only use if needed. And use at your own risk.
No guarantee but consider the risk and IF you have an issue with boot after Odin, you may need to factory reset in stock recovery and try the stock tar again (it's important to try that first without panicking). Always power down and pull battery before flashing stock tar. Also make sure you have ample battery charge. These days, 80% is recommended because there's a lot of weak batteries out there. Consider a new battery if older than 12 months or requiring frequent charging or phone shuts down before 0%. (I don't recommend full discharge, just that some batteries start shutting down around 20% when going bad. It only gets worse after that.)
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Yes I'm getting ready to flash bootloaders big AF. I will two the pit files first but if that doesn't work I've got a list. Involves downgrading to kit kat, rooting with auoto root (can't screw me thrice) running triangle away to lose the warranty bit, installing xposed and wanam so as to make it read official. Once samsungs stuff isn't all a scared anymore I delete the /dev/block/platform/msm1_byname/hidden/rape the dumbass that used to trust developers he didn't know until he knew better and the rape was done.
I'm not really looking to flash boot loaders per say. I realized that you can only install a newer version and I TiVo I'm out of updates if I need a new bootloader. Just went to erase the obtrusive piece of poo hidden in between the 2 bootloaders. I'm not even sure theres supposed to be 2 bootladers. I look at samsuny stock firmware it's nothing like the billithera of extra stuff I have on my device. Can't say for sure who caused it because I did some retarded stuff when I was even greener than I am now. But whether it be auto root or srs unlock that super su is obtrusive as it gets. The purpose of root was flee me the user to gain access tip everything. The whole limiting the user and granting permission to every creepy fook on this planet to stock me and my kids is not what I had in mind. These people are so adamant about their creepy stalking not only is my devices esp network cut by 90% they do dangerous stuff like hidden robuilds that has a value of 1 where the radio don't shut off I airplane mode.
samep said:
PIT for Sprint Note 4 is here:
http://www.sammobile.com/forum/showthread.php?p=137840 No links are permitted by the developer; please respect that.
Not experiencing what you have and not attempting to fix what isn't broken, can't say what works but from what you describe, it sounds like you may have attempted to flash an older bootloader which isn't advised.
You may consider it's risky to try to undo that but first verify your reactivation lock is disabled. If your eMMC is OK, it might be OK to try to Odin PIT with repartition and nand erase all with an acceptable tar OG5 or higher loaded in AP slot. Always use PIT for repartition but only use if needed. And use at your own risk.
No guarantee but consider the risk and IF you have an issue with boot after Odin, you may need to factory reset in stock recovery and try the stock tar again (it's important to try that first without panicking). Always power down and pull battery before flashing stock tar. Also make sure you have ample battery charge. These days, 80% is recommended because there's a lot of weak batteries out there. Consider a new battery if older than 12 months or requiring frequent charging or phone shuts down before 0%. (I don't recommend full discharge, just that some batteries start shutting down around 20% when going bad. It only gets worse after that.)
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I appreciate the advice. I hope to avoid allot with the PIT. That's what flashfire back up says it needs. Shutting the phone of is a good idea. The recovery log was actually making fun of me for not. Along with the simple command I needed to open /sbin/recovery then wipe cane and data crypto. The /sbin/recovery was an eye opener (try it from the emulator in twrp to see if root has crippled you. The thing is most of us use a universal supersu update to reinstall and that is not good. That is written to take out the marines if that's what it takes to accomplish root. Remember the food old days when superuser binary was a line compatible with your cu?
Anyways another good command people don't know is if odin fails don't pull the battery. I put am s4 tip sleep forever that way. volumedwn home and power reatart the bootloader and wipe the cache for the software out is rejecting.
Yes I'm getting ready to flash bootloaders big AF. I will two the pit files first but if that doesn't work I've got a list. Involves downgrading to kit kat, rooting with auoto root (can't screw me thrice) running triangle away to lose the warranty bit, installing xposed and wanam so as to make it read official. Once samsungs stuff isn't all a scared anymore I delete the /dev/block/platform/msm1_byname/hidden/rape the dumbass that used to trust developers he didn't know until he knew better and the rape was done.
I'm not really looking to flash boot loaders per say. I realized that you can only install a newer version and I TiVo I'm out of updates if I need a new bootloader. Just went to erase the obtrusive piece of poo hidden in between the 2 bootloaders. I'm not even sure theres supposed to be 2 bootladers. I look at samsuny stock firmware it's nothing like the billithera of extra stuff I have on my device. Can't say for sure who caused it because I did some retarded stuff when I was even greener than I am now. But whether it be auto root or srs unlock that super su is obtrusive as it gets. The purpose of root was flee me the user to gain access tip everything. The whole limiting the user and granting permission to every creepy fook on this planet to stock me and my kids is not what I had in mind. These people are so adamant about their creepy stalking not only is my devices esp network cut by 90% they do dangerous stuff like hidden robuilds that has a value of 1 where the radio don't shut off I airplane mode.
samep said:
PIT for Sprint Note 4 is here:
http://www.sammobile.com/forum/showthread.php?p=137840 No links are permitted by the developer; please respect that.
Not experiencing what you have and not attempting to fix what isn't broken, can't say what works but from what you describe, it sounds like you may have attempted to flash an older bootloader which isn't advised.
You may consider it's risky to try to undo that but first verify your reactivation lock is disabled. If your eMMC is OK, it might be OK to try to Odin PIT with repartition and nand erase all with an acceptable tar OG5 or higher loaded in AP slot. Always use PIT for repartition but only use if needed. And use at your own risk.
No guarantee but consider the risk and IF you have an issue with boot after Odin, you may need to factory reset in stock recovery and try the stock tar again (it's important to try that first without panicking). Always power down and pull battery before flashing stock tar. Also make sure you have ample battery charge. These days, 80% is recommended because there's a lot of weak batteries out there. Consider a new battery if older than 12 months or requiring frequent charging or phone shuts down before 0%. (I don't recommend full discharge, just that some batteries start shutting down around 20% when going bad. It only gets worse after that.)
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by chance i got one of these thats only in qloader9008 you got any ideas on that i am downloading the debrick img from sammobiles rite now. aint really ever had this issue on a samsung only lgs
thanks in advance man
TheMadScientist420 said:
by chance i got one of these thats only in qloader9008 you got any ideas on that i am downloading the debrick img from sammobiles rite now. aint really ever had this issue on a samsung only lgs
thanks in advance man
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You may have discovered this thread. I haven't had the issue or tried fixing one bricked but marked this thread because of all the theories, examples and links, it seemed a place to start for answers but I couldn't know without experiencing an issue, myself. What works? Don't know.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63848150&postcount=1
It's probably a starting point but nothing new if you've devoted time with success in finding methods to try. It suggests also it could be the eMMC failing which is all too common for Note 4. Either way, if it's just bricked, maybe you recover it. If it's component failure, main board replacement should fix it. Main boards can be found on eBay and Amazon but I think they're all used or remanufactured boards. Samsung repair may be an alternative if you're not to inconvenienced by waiting. Just recently, I got a quote from my local uBreakItIfixIt and the guy said it's not a fixed estimate store to store but he'd only charge $10 to replace a main board in store.
Best wishes for timely procedure or economical repair.
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samep said:
You may have discovered this thread. I haven't had the issue or tried fixing one bricked but marked this thread because of all the theories, examples and links, it seemed a place to start for answers but I couldn't know without experiencing an issue, myself. What works? Don't know.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63848150&postcount=1
It's probably a starting point but nothing new if you've devoted time with success in finding methods to try. It suggests also it could be the eMMC failing which is all too common for Note 4. Either way, if it's just bricked, maybe you recover it. If it's component failure, main board replacement should fix it. Main boards can be found on eBay and Amazon but I think they're all used or remanufactured boards. Samsung repair may be an alternative if you're not to inconvenienced by waiting. Just recently, I got a quote from my local uBreakItIfixIt and the guy said it's not a fixed estimate store to store but he'd only charge $10 to replace a main board in store.
Best wishes for timely procedure or economical repair.
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i dont know the problem seems to have been in a update.. playing with it for a while it started charging and turned on and finished a update....
i got a s6 active did the same thing to me just started working i run it for like 6 months no probs
of coarse its on sprints black list just found out due to non payment of ezpay. but ill deal with that on my own as such talks are downed and frowned upon.
man i got this thing for 20 bucks.... even if nothing else my buddy needs a screen for one in his shop. but most def thank you for responding..
too further your post i do all my own repairs ussually the cheapest route currently behind the wheel of a unrootable verizon note 5 and a lgg4 which is rooted but no twrp method available. each i have very little invested in.
I never could find the files. The link was valid, samep, it just refused to let me have them. It turns out it is easier to get them off your own device and I've zero doubt they are for the 32gb Sprint Note 4. At least mine anyways. I tried the down grade to kitkat which would have worked because it downgrades you boatloader at least according to the page. I got a failed md5. So it wouldn't supirise me if these pit files are different than what the stock one was. Hard to tell what you have, for sure, when you are a flash junk that trusts random people on the inter web. At least I was/did. I gave myself this when it was brand new. It was hard to get it going again. I back up worked with plasma kernel then on the next official it was right again, well almost, I've had this problem almost two years now. I went without root for a while so didn't notice.
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I hope this fixes it. If not I'll find the right files for the kk downgrade. It would be sweet to go back anyways. I'll leave a link in the next thread for the pit.
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i dont know the problem seems to have been in a update.. playing with it for a while it started charging and turned on and finished a update....
i got a s6 active did the same thing to me just started working i run it for like 6 months no probs
of coarse its on sprints black list just found out due to non payment of ezpay. but ill deal with that on my own as such talks are downed and frowned upon.
man i got this thing for 20 bucks.... even if nothing else my buddy needs a screen for one in his shop. but most def thank you for responding..
too further your post i do all my own repairs ussually the cheapest route currently behind the wheel of a unrootable verizon note 5 and a lgg4 which is rooted but no twrp method available. each i have very little invested in.
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Did you fix it? Your right totally worth it for the screen. You can unlock the imei. I only did it once just because some people are so adamant you can't. I like to believe anything is possible. I don't feel bad about getting those non paid because the phone companies are the thieves. Especially in the US. They bury a lot of people locking you down to have a phone and the policy on being to stupid to fix anything is raw. With two kids I paid out a lot of dead phones. It takes rooting one phone to have bested the entire knowledge of tech at sprint. That's the hard part. If they sold parts it would be nothing.
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by chance i got one of these thats only in qloader9008 you got any ideas on that i am downloading the debrick img from sammobiles rite now. aint really ever had this issue on a samsung only lgs
thanks in advance man
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PIT_SM_N910P
https://mega.nz/#!cJREFYqS
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planb234 said:
Did you fix it? Your right totally worth it for the screen. You can unlock the imei. I only did it once just because some people are so adamant you can't. I like to believe anything is possible. I don't feel bad about getting those non paid because the phone companies are the thieves. Especially in the US. They bury a lot of people locking you down to have a phone and the policy on being to stupid to fix anything is raw. With two kids I paid out a lot of dead phones. It takes rooting one phone to have bested the entire knowledge of tech at sprint. That's the hard part. If they sold parts it would be nothing.
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Y3a it just decided it was gonna start workin heck yea.
The battery is trashed on it. Im gonna order one here soon
Ive flashed a few roms on it. Rooted. But everytime i restart it the bat percentage is totally diffrent.. thank you. I got a s6 once same way
Wouldnt do nothing. Plyin with it and decided to boot up.
Again i know talks of bad imeis are not good conversation. But i use cdma workshop and basicly took a old sammy i had that was junk and destroyed it. Took the sticker and rewrite a new iemi. Havent done it yet but. When i get there i know i can.
Ofcoarse now i cant unlock it even if i follow all the guides. Ive tried and tried.
TheMadScientist420 said:
Y3a it just decided it was gonna start workin heck yea.
The battery is trashed on it. Im gonna order one here soon
Ive flashed a few roms on it. Rooted. But everytime i restart it the bat percentage is totally diffrent.. thank you. I got a s6 once same way
Wouldnt do nothing. Plyin with it and decided to boot up.
Again i know talks of bad imeis are not good conversation. But i use cdma workshop and basicly took a old sammy i had that was junk and destroyed it. Took the sticker and rewrite a new iemi. Havent done it yet but. When i get there i know i can.
Ofcoarse now i cant unlock it even if i follow all the guides. Ive tried and tried.
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There's a couple of ways to calibrate the battery. the easiest is a root app in Play "Battery Calibrator" it resets the stats at 100% Another is *#0228# I believe you calibrate it then let it run all the way dry then charge it to full with the system off. Not too hard to find if you want to give it a shot. It's hard to say what the problem is. I just got a new one because the old was dying at 30%. I use both and they take turns on which one is weak. Neither is a problem with out root. I probably have too much working Or to much stuff in the background.
I've heard that about changing the sticker. i only change the sticker if I used another phone for the screen. It matches what is in the board that way, If you take it in the store to get it activated they may be a little less confused.
I took an S4 that was compiled of 3 previous ones and my daughters that just stoppede working to get activated at sprint. Of course he couldn't. His story the same "When you work on them .. . He was pretty adamant that as it. I couldn't figure out how that affected both of them. So i took it home and activated it myself. Turns out the S4 is a dual band so he generally has a 50% succes rate it will turn on in the mode.
The sticker definitly won't get it activated. I've got an LG3 that was given to me by some who did't care about sprint anymoe that was Imei locked out activated. It was $100 bucks for the server. The server was. It unlocked a s5 also that a jerk sold me was clean. It unlocked it too. It was through verizon so i never activated it. I was trying to flop it to sprint when it disappeard .I unloced my note 4 with it to. The SIM so the APNs aere never locked altough I'm not positve it could have been GTidonetehapp that did it. I did' know what I ws doing, I just like plaing with them. No real reason to unlock a phone you own. Well ther is the hotspot. I'm pretty sure that's how I crumbed up my note and my puter to. I dropped exec files in my win 32 folder and flashed in something with a crazy odin to get my phone unlocked. But again not positive, thier stuff workied so it was just to give my equiment herepes.
planb234 said:
PIT_SM_N910P
https://mega.nz/#!cJREFYqS
My bad. I did not know that there has to be a key for mega. This one should do better.
Fwd: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/b0b3ywj5rbiec7h/AAAUM9TvOLUCDPJXXZTZBd_Ea?dl=0
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planb234 said:
There's a couple of ways to calibrate the battery. the easiest is a root app in Play "Battery Calibrator" it resets the stats at 100% Another is *#0228# I believe you calibrate it then let it run all the way dry then charge it to full with the system off. Not too hard to find if you want to give it a shot. It's hard to say what the problem is. I just got a new one because the old was dying at 30%. I use both and they take turns on which one is weak. Neither is a problem with out root. I probably have too much working Or to much stuff in the background.
I've heard that about changing the sticker. i only change the sticker if I used another phone for the screen. It matches what is in the board that way, If you take it in the store to get it activated they may be a little less confused.
I took an S4 that was compiled of 3 previous ones and my daughters that just stoppede working to get activated at sprint. Of course he couldn't. His story the same "When you work on them .. . He was pretty adamant that as it. I couldn't figure out how that affected both of them. So i took it home and activated it myself. Turns out the S4 is a dual band so he generally has a 50% succes rate it will turn on in the mode.
The sticker definitly won't get it activated. I've got an LG3 that was given to me by some who did't care about sprint anymoe that was Imei locked out activated. It was $100 bucks for the server. The server was. It unlocked a s5 also that a jerk sold me was clean. It unlocked it too. It was through verizon so i never activated it. I was trying to flop it to sprint when it disappeard .I unloced my note 4 with it to. The SIM so the APNs aere never locked altough I'm not positve it could have been GTidonetehapp that did it. I did' know what I ws doing, I just like plaing with them. No real reason to unlock a phone you own. Well ther is the hotspot. I'm pretty sure that's how I crumbed up my note and my puter to. I dropped exec files in my win 32 folder and flashed in something with a crazy odin to get my phone unlocked. But again not positive, thier stuff workied so it was just to give my equiment herepes.
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I do my own i jusf activate sim cards the sticker is basicly for my refrance i sell a lot of phones but i keep ones like this for myself. So theres no issues i just swap sims all the time so no need for activations
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I never could find the files. The link was valid, samep, it just refused to let me have them. It turns out it is easier to get them off your own device and I've zero doubt they are for the 32gb Sprint Note 4. At least mine anyways. I tried the down grade to kitkat which would have worked because it downgrades you boatloader at least according to the page. I got a failed md5. So it wouldn't supirise me if these pit files are different than what the stock one was. Hard to tell what you have, for sure, when you are a flash junk that trusts random people on the inter web. At least I was/did. I gave myself this when it was brand new. It was hard to get it going again. I back up worked with plasma kernel then on the next official it was right again, well almost, I've had this problem almost two years now. I went without root for a while so didn't notice.
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I hope this fixes it. If not I'll find the right files for the kk downgrade. It would be sweet to go back anyways. I'll leave a link in the next thread for the pit.
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I do believe you have to sign into Sammobile to download files.
The PIT can also be found in the first stock tar for each OS update; the developer I linked says that the PIT hasn't changed. I've seen methods to extract PIT from phone but they don't match md5 when checked. I checked your linked PIT in the post above and it doesn't match either. I wouldn't recommend using that one.
If your phone has ever updated beyond OB7, you can't Odin full stock KitKat tars or OB7 stock tar. The bootloader will block the Odin flash.
Not looking at your phone, it's hard to say what's going on. But I hope the feedback helps. Ask if you have further questions; I'll try to reply, but I haven't experienced what you've having issues with. Best wishes for resolution.
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I do believe you have to sign into Sammobile to download files.
The PIT can also be found in the first stock tar for each OS update; the developer I linked says that the PIT hasn't changed. I've seen methods to extract PIT from phone but they don't match md5 when checked. I checked your linked PIT in the post above and it doesn't match either. I wouldn't recommend using that one.
If your phone has ever updated beyond OB7, you can't Odin full stock KitKat tars or OB7 stock tar. The bootloader will block the Odin flash.
Not looking at your phone, it's hard to say what's going on. But I hope the feedback helps. Ask if you have further questions; I'll try to reply, but I haven't experienced what you've having issues with. Best wishes for resolution.
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Yeah it didn't work . It just shut down . I'll explain what has going on. Thank you for this post. It's good to know there's more options.
I actually did take a note 4 and s4 back. It dependes on how they upgraded. The bootloader doesn't change in an fota. I could do the s4 again now.
Thanks again for the awesome info.
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I do my own i jusf activate sim cards the sticker is basicly for my refrance i sell a lot of phones but i keep ones like this for myself. So theres no issues i just swap sims all the time so no need for activations
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You don't have to unlock the SIM or anything? Even if you do that's a lot less than getting the imei forgot about. Don't you have to get an msl from a comany. I know it's very possible send easy in free countries but i live in murica. You pay and pay here and the still put a cap on the data. If we're not careful we may use up all that data and then there would be no way to watch us 24-7 just we might go rogue.
A sticker that changes the sim? Details please.
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You may have discovered this thread. I haven't had the issue or tried fixing one bricked but marked this thread because of all the theories, examples and links, it seemed a place to start for answers but I couldn't know without experiencing an issue, myself. What works? Don't know.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63848150&postcount=1
It's probably a starting point but nothing new if you've devoted time with success in finding methods to try. It suggests also it could be the eMMC failing which is all too common for Note 4. Either way, if it's just bricked, maybe you recover it. If it's component failure, main board replacement should fix it. Main boards can be found on eBay and Amazon but I think they're all used or remanufactured boards. Samsung repair may be an alternative if you're not to inconvenienced by waiting. Just recently, I got a quote from my local uBreakItIfixIt and the guy said it's not a fixed estimate store to store but he'd only charge $10 to replace a main board in store.
Best wishes for timely procedure or economical repair.
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I've been trying to reply to this for 2 days. You see it's not the way my phone runs that is the issue it is my network that is completely raped. I can't lose my parasite. I screwed up my bootloader petty bad when I was learning about Samsung. If you ask how to unlock a bootloader the most common answer you get is "you don't, you use auto root". Auto root is as amazing for sure but I can tell there is a lot of people who don't read anything and just do. The the disclaimer is "don't use this with a locked boot loader, you will likely brick your device." As i mentioned I'm a flash junky. I didn't know once you blew the hole in thy boot you only needed a custom recovery forever. I like changing roms so i rooted with it a couple more times. Things for real bad after I ran the kitkat auto root on lollipop. I could use one of my back ups and add plasma kernel for a few months until the next update. Worse than that i flashed a something from an unlock sight with a special version of Odin. I didn't even need to because i had all ready changed the csc to xas so my apns were open. The effects were scary but cool. I got locked out of my phone for awhile except for virtual access on my puter screen. My home network for straight raped after that. I had everything set to home and share because i didn't think there would be even more bored than me so as to waste there life watching my life. There is and they are smart as #. I go in intervals of being angry to amazed. I thought they were gone but no. I was not keen on interweb when i got on here. Now that i could protect myself I can't keep the evil at bay because it lurks in the dark spaces I can't reach. FlashFire says it can remove the seemles. It is incredible to but I don't think so. It definitely can't mine. What's crazy is I've had a couple new bootloaderers since then but it remains. I'm with out root at the moment and am able to look at some of the data and dev were files. I can see the usb files that block adb is in but still no. Even though auto root totally changes the way and where from the device boots, I'm needing to extract or other wise terminate what is probably one card a ftp or smb. I can see in my win logs that if uses a machine to confuse the system in a barrage of security log ins while opening a door for daddy. I had the xml explaing how it's done but then a brand new 125gb card magically went to sleep forever. Some script out there is beyond amazing to me. Virtual net adapters that aren't on top of actual hardware blow my mind. It would have never crossed my mind in a million years they there is going to be a need for antivirus software on hardware like a Bluetooth keyboard.
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You don't have to unlock the SIM or anything? Even if you do that's a lot less than getting the imei forgot about. Don't you have to get an msl from a comany. I know it's very possible send easy in free countries but i live in murica. You pay and pay here and the still put a cap on the data. If we're not careful we may use up all that data and then there would be no way to watch us 24-7 just we might go rogue.
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this device had a bad iemi person i got it from said they didnt pay for it on the sprint ezpay.
i checked and that was the truth. so i changed the iemi with another old sammy i had and put the sticker in for my records. so i know what the new iemi is without the device being turned on.
im trying to sim unlock it so i can use it on domestic gsm but no go sofar always invalid sim.
i guess i need to take this dissussion to another thread as so i dont get to far off the orig topic here
@planb234
I'm not following well what you've tried since getting a PIT file. Did you get the PIT file from Sammobile yet? Did you try the latest stock tar? If older ones, which ones fail?
If Odin fails, can you post the log and text on screen?
I believe what you're talking about is not needing to root if flashing a custom ROM. After a stock tar, you could Odin TWRP and flash a custom ROM. Custom ROMs include root and su. If using Chainfire Auto Root for Note 4, make sure to use the right one and latest for Lollipop and Marshmallow. KitKat had its own Auto Root. But the auto root uses a modified stock recovery which may make its use redundant if flashing a custom or even wanting just TWRP for backups if stock rooted.
Some fun facts for you:
The bootloader on Sprint Note 4 is unlocked. Flashing a stock tar will un-root it. Factory reset will cause you to lose systemless root. But flashing a full stock tar successfully will replace the bootloader. If you're trying to flash OB7 or older KitKat stock tar, your bootloader won't be replaced. As far as OTA, it patches existing baseband, bootloader and effected system files and partitions that need patched. Even if it's just a revision number in the update, it gets rolled up to match the update revision. While I feel stock tar updates are full and need no patching, the patching is sequential and should match the Odin'd bootloader and baseband once sequentially rolled up accordingly. So IMO, a patched bootloader is same as newly Odin'd bootloader. I could be wrong about the patching so not necessarily a fact.
I think your problem is unsuccessful flash of full stock tar. A blown eFuse may cause that but from what I've read in past posts of others that had issues back then is that flashing the correct stock tar after full wipe in stock recovery overcomes the flash. It leads me to believe it's only activating reset protection to try to roll the bootloader back to OB7 or KitKat. Maybe I'm wrong but if your phone isn't suffering a hardware issue, you should be able to recover it.
Other bootloaders between OB7 and OG5 like OE1 and OF5 were also exhibiting an inability to downgrade but bootloaders OG5 and up can so far can be downgraded to OG5. I haven't tried downgrading bootloader to OE1 or OF5 though.
I've seen phone info from posters claiming to roll their bootloader back to OB7 or older and they've actually reported a newer bootloader, post OB7.
As far as I know, the only true way to get KitKat ROM to flash and boot is to flash a newer kernel after ROM flash, but prior to initial boot attempt. Currently, I'm only aware of Android 5.1.1 kernel and post OB7 bootloader booting a KitKat ROM after bootloader is updated beyond OB7.
If you're capable of doing otherwise, I'd like to see legit screenshot of phone info or galaxy tools application.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vndnguyen.phoneinfo
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Hi,
My wife HTC m9(UK, Vodaphone, latest stock ROM, No root) was turned off last night to charge.
When booted up it does the below. It does not load into the OS. Every boot loops into the below.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8n21CQX7535cjF4MnZqV2E1dGM/view?usp=sharing
It says the software has been modified?
My wife was very insistent that I never root or change ROMS on her phone.
Does anyone have a fix or is this send off for replacement?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Ca1v
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Hi,
My wife HTC m9(UK, Vodaphone, latest stock ROM, No root) was turned off last night to charge.
When booted up it does the below. It does not load into the OS. Every boot loops into the below.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8n21CQX7535cjF4MnZqV2E1dGM/view?usp=sharing
It says the software has been modified?
My wife was very insistent that I never root or change ROMS on her phone.
Does anyone have a fix or is this send off for replacement?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Ca1v
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What happens if you try to boot to Download Mode? I guess you see the black screen that is mentioned in Q7, right? If that's the case there isn't much you can do...
Download mode seems to be working (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8n21CQX7535cEFhTlpnajF5anM/view?usp=sharing)
If this is the case, can you point me in the right direction to get resolved?
Many thanks for the help
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What happens if you try to boot to Download Mode? I guess you see the black screen that is mentioned in Q7, right? If that's the case there isn't much you can do...
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Download mode seems to be working (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8n...ew?usp=sharing)
If this is the case, can you point me in the right direction to get resolved?
Many thanks for the help
Interesting. Your video in post 1 shows a security warning. That means that the OS got deleted. This is only possible if you unlock the bootloader and delete it manually via TWRP or if the EMMC gets broken. Since the phone's S-ON and its bootloader is locked and not unlocked or relocked I assumed that the latter happened*.
As long as the download mode is working you can restore the system with the help of a RUU. Instructions can be found in the thread I linked in my last post. Be aware that all data on the phone is going to get erased.
* Well, it is possible to get the phone's status back to S-ON and locked with S-OFF but you said you never tinkered with that phone...
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Interesting. Your video in post 1 shows a security warning. That means that the OS got deleted. This is only possible if you unlock the bootloader and delete it manually via TWRP or if the EMMC gets broken. Since the phone's S-ON and its bootloader is locked and not unlocked or relocked I assumed that the latter happened*.
As long as the download mode is working you can restore the system with the help of a RUU. Instructions can be found in the thread I linked in my last post. Be aware that all data on the phone is going to get erased.
* Well, it is possible to get the phone's status back to S-ON and locked with S-OFF but you said you never tinkered with that phone...
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Just thought I'd bring to your attention that apps are now being written that will try to obtain root without you knowing. The reason is that they can steal any information they want and sell it to corporations for as little as 4 pence/6c a record.
It is possible that it is a failed root by an app.
"I'm safe, I only download my apps from google playstore" - nope, you're not.
"I only use signed apps and the checksum is always correct" - nope, checksum can be matched with padding.
"I only use external sources to update genuine apps" - nope, see the Google playstore comment above.
"I have all my security and privacy set to super strict, I have my apps verified by google" - nope, still not secure because alerts are only written when the malicious/bad code is found.
Be warned, my fellow xda'ers. There is a whole new breed of security breach and it is terminal to root as a whole. Apps like kingoroot etc are issuing the wrong type of people with the wrong type of information and they are using it for the wrong purposes.
Google will stuggle to put a lid on these types of apps because they attack the hardware for access to software (a simple memory buffer overflow attack), inject a few lines of code and you're in, permanently. It will eventually result in a total lockdown at the manufacturer and bye bye root access, roms, mods etc, you'll get what you're given.
How do we prevent this?. We don't and we can't. We just have to sit back and watch as the world takes our privacy while bricking our devices one by one just to "try" to earn a poxy 4p.
Beamed in by telepathy.
@shivadow: I'm actually not sure what you're trying to achieve with your post. Malicious apps that can root your device without letting the user know about that exist since several years now. (Click here for a random example from 2011) Smartphones aren't completely safe and they never were. Everyone who's claiming the opposite either doesn't know what he/she is talking about or is simply lying.
To name just a few more android security flaws/exploits that emerged in the past: rageagainstthecage, gingerbreak, heartbleed, stagefright, the master key vulnerability, the futex bug, rootnik...
All of these have more or less been used for manipulating android phones. There is no absolute security. Android is still as secure/insecure as it's always been.
In addition, several OEMs are already trying to prevent their customers from rooting their phones since several years. Samsung's KNOX is a perfect example. (I don't want to discuss whether they're successful. That's a whole different topic.)
But let's get back to the deleted OS of the OP's phone: I've never heard about failed root attempts that erase a complete system partition. Therefore, I highly doubt that a malicious app caused all the trouble. Failed root attempts may cause a bootloop but they don't wipe your phone. Just think about the following: How should the dev of such app gain money if the app deletes OSes? Without OS there is no information you can steel and if you have no information you could sell/abuse/whatsoever you don't gain any money. Oh and not to forget that most apps on the play store already collect more than enough data from your phone they can sell afterwards without having to root it.
I meant failed root could be the cause, if the op didn't then who did?. If no-one modded it then dead nand is the only player..
I agree with every thing else but I don't trust those apps that try to gain root in the background to steal data and I think it's too easy for them to bugger your phone just for the sake of making a few coins. Face it, if I was doing it, once I had what I wanted I wouldn't care about the device. Sod the gracious exit and all that jazz.. No evidence, no conviction.
Maybe I'm being ott but my questions and points are still valid.
This is a proper "who dunnit" because I doubt it died of its own accord.
Knox is for businesses btw. If knox is triggered, which is very easy to do, the business is advised not to buy the device as it "may" have been compromised. But if no company secrets are being held on the device then it's still good to use. Knox protection was counteracted by supersu. In a nutshell, unless you run a company knox is of no concern to the everyday user.
Just thought I'd chuck that in there, I'm versed in the arts of the s3 i9300. I moved from that phone to this m9.
Beamed in by telepathy.
i have an option of buying a soft bricked m8, that says tampered relocked, unknown history of what was done to it, but im thinking have a go at trying to get it running again, i cannot get past any of the screens it's s-on as well, cannot go into phone settings, so i cannot do anything there.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/charvel_375/htc m8 broke.jpg?t=1515544191
So what is the question? Do you want to know if it's worth the risk/effort of buying? If we think it can be recovered? Or what exactly to do to recover it?
sorry i should have been more specific, answer.. can it be fixed, if so how, as i said i cannot get into the phone settings, i dont know if USB debugging is checked.
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can it be fixed, if so how, as i said i cannot get into the phone settings, i dont know if USB debugging is checked.
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You typically don't need debugging enabled, to get the phone running. You don't need debugging to use fastboot, and it's fastboot that is critical to get the phone running.
Whether or not the phone can be fixed, is not definite with the information provided so far. A lot of times, no boot just means the ROM is corrupt or otherwise damaged, which is fairly easy to fix by a tool called RUU. Or alternately by unlocking the bootloader, putting custom recovery TWRP on the phone, and using that to flash a stock ROM or custom ROM.
"Tampered" and "relocked" (versus "locked") means that the previous owner did at least try to do some mods (unlocked bootloader, custom recovery, custom ROM and/or root). Whether those attempted mods resulted in the current condition is another question we can't answer (only the previous owner can answer). It could be as simple as a botched root attempt, such as wrong version TWRP or wrong version SuperSU (also easily fixed). Or it could be the simple act of the previous owner locking the bootloader, which by definition renders the phone unable to boot (again, RUU is one possible solution) and the person just didn't know that.
On the other hand, it's possible that the current condition is caused by a hardware failure, such as emmc failure, and you won't be able to flash a ROM, and the phone is pretty much shot (needs new motherboard, etc.). But there is really no way of determining hardware vs. software failure without trying to recover it. Although my gut tells me, this is a pretty easy software fix, and that the current condition is mostly a matter of the previous owner lacking the proper knowledge.
What are the conditions of the sale? Are you buying it "as is" whether you can fix it or not? Or is the person going to let you mess with it, before decided whether to buy it? If you fix it easily, is there a possibility they change their mind, and going to want to keep it?
thanks for the info, buying as is, owner puts his arms up and says no idea, buy as is no returns, possible guilt of not rooting correctly ? who knows.
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buying as is, owner puts his arms up and says no idea, buy as is no returns, possible guilt of not rooting correctly ? who knows.
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That would be my guess, not rooted correctly, or tried to return to stock, and botched it.
The bet, if I had to make one, would be that it can be recovered (software issue). But as I said, no sure bet there. Might be worth a chance, depending on how much he is charging, and how much that amount of money means to you.
in the end i passed on it, as found out the phone has been doing the rounds, internal chip was dead iv been told.
Hi
I'm new to the forum but have been doing a fair amount of research. I am stuck now though and would like a bit of help.
My situation is that I have a Xperia XA1 ultra (I know I should post in that device specific forum but not much seems to be happening there) I have a very specific problem that I have treated like a forensics problem.
The phone is locked by a pattern which has been guessed by another person so many times that the gatekeeper only allows one entry per day provided the phone is charged otherwise the timer resets.
It has not been rooted and ADB is disabled.
I have connected to it through fastboot and what I can gather is that it is running Android Oreo.
The system details are as follows:
Product: XA1 Ultra G3221
Build Number: 48.1.A.0.129
Chipset: Mediatek MT6757 Helio P20
Bootloader: Locked
My research has led me to the possibility of loading a recovery image into the RAM of the phone and accessing ADB that way. I tried this with a TWRP image but obviously it didn't work. There is a company called Cellebrite that claims to be able to load it's own boot/recovery image into the bootloader and gain entry that way, however the license is something like £10,000. I'm definitely not a commercial customer.
The final option for me would be to dump the memory via JTAG or chipoff, the contents would be encrypted but I found a blog where somebody had managed to find the location of the gesture.key file while the system was encrypted. I can't remember what the site was called though, it took me ages to find last time.
My main questions are does Sony sign the boot image with it's own keys or does it use the standard Android Verified Boot?
Does Sony reuse the same keys for signing across devices? Likely not but maybe
Is there a way to send specific instructions to the RAM via fastboot?
Does anybody know of an exploit that could be used?
Is there a way to extract the boot.img and recover the Sony keys?
If there any other docs, resources or ways to get the data that could help, I will gladly read and/or try them. I think this forum is probably the biggest resource one though but after a while the specific information needed gets harder to find.
The main thing is that I don't unlock the bootloader and flash anything. It's all got to be live and non data damaging.
I tried MTPwn on the off chance that it would work but nope, it was a no go.
If there was a way to utilise the mediatek exploit to gain entry from fastboot that would be excellent, or to use fastboot to dump the memory.
Thanks for reading, I hope someone can help.
Your thread was quite confusing at first as I wasn't sure what to look for exactly :/
That being said, you have your phone locked and you want to unlock it. However you don't want to flash or reset your device, you don't have root permission, you don't have debugger mode on and you don't want to unlock the bootloader, correct?
Basically you're asking for the impossible...
All I can think of is FROST attack. See article for details and source code.
You can also send your device to your nearest Sony service center and they can probably fix it with no memory loss.
Other than that, you MUST hard reset your phone if you want it back.
However should you come to your mind and realize the reality of the situation where you shouldn't be picky about it then you can start with flashing custom recovery. Or using third-party programs like dr.fone.
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Your thread was quite confusing at first as I wasn't sure what to look for exactly :/
That being said, you have your phone locked and you want to unlock it. However you don't want to flash or reset your device, you don't have root permission, you don't have debugger mode on and you don't want to unlock the bootloader, correct?
Basically you're asking for the impossible...
All I can think of is FROST attack. See article for details and source code.
You can also send your device to your nearest Sony service center and they can probably fix it with no memory loss.
Other than that, you MUST hard reset your phone if you want it back.
However should you come to your mind and realize the reality of the situation where you shouldn't be picky about it then you can start with flashing custom recovery. Or using third-party programs like dr.fone.
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Thanks for getting back to me, yes I realise it is asking for the impossible. I'll have a research around that article and see if I can find some information on how to write the program to dump the contents over USB. I tried Dr Fone but that only gave me the option of a hard reset.
My current line of attack is an exploit over USB called OATmeal, whereby a Raspberry Pi is used over OTG with a filesystem label of "../../data", it allows the filesystem of the phone to be mounted and data written off. It is a little complex and so I am struggling a bit with getting it to work. The team over at Project Zero have a good write-up of it so I'm following that and the POC at exploit-db to guide me through it.
I think I will be able to get the USB part to work but I'm not sure if I have to write a Java file to automatically run when /data is mounted, or if that's even possible.
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My current line of attack is an exploit over USB called OATmeal
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Not to make you frustrated, but this is an old exploit and I highly doubt it'd work on your device, unless your device security patch is older than 9-2018.
And you can't rollback on your security patch.
You should really consider flashing TWRP or other custom recovery. You have no other option.
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Not to make you frustrated, but this is an old exploit and I highly doubt it'd work on your device, unless your device security patch is older than 9-2018.
And you can't rollback on your security patch.
You should really consider flashing TWRP or other custom recovery. You have no other option.
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Fortunately the device hasn't been updated since around 2-2018 or 3-2018 so any exploit I can find from then onwards that I can use will be great. I really do get that the only realistic option is to unlock the bootloader and flash the recovery but the data needs to be recovered and I absolutely don't want to wipe it.
If I can't do it then it will gather dust until the end of time...
It seems that no matter what I say you won't realize the situation you are in.
I can only suggest to NEVER mess with the phone circuits or the motherboard. No matter which stupid yoututbe tutorial you saw. Those guys are douchebags who only know how to get views and don't care for whatever you/they do to your device.
Needless to say messing with the circuits or the motherboard require dexterity and experience which I'm positive you don't have.
As I said before if you send it to an authorized service center, then they can help you with it without memory loss.
Sending you device to a service center isn't an insult or an act of low self esteem. Service centers exist for a reason, and they're basically geeks who are too passionate about electronics and decided to make a living out of it.
Or maybe you can somehow use the EDL mode on the phone.
In Qualcomm devices the EDL mode is locked and can only be accessed by an authorized person who have the security code of your device. I don't know if it even exist in MTK devices.
Should you actually manage to boot into EDL mode - Assuming it exists and is unlocked - then BEWARE: EDL mode is very low level and any command can directly affect the kernel or compromise the system. Don't use commands you're not sure what do they do.
You can use EDL mode to recover the data from the phone then wipe it clean, then restore the data.
You cannot access memory with EDL mode, but you can access the current image on your device. And from which you can get the key file.
EDL mode is a very very powerful tool (Much more powerful than debugging, fastboot, or anything you may know of) as it doesn't need unlocked bootloader to use it and through which you can do anything to your device including flashing other ROMs.
Good luck on your impossible quest. Make sure to post updates should you find yourself stuck.