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For those who got this as a pseudo tablet? its been almost 6 weeks I got the beauty and about 2 weeks since I got the allshare cast, and I haven't touched my roku or asus media player
Note 2 is everything for me, after using it so much, the screen size is normal to me ( compared to my previous S3 ) but I really don't mind it being slightly bigger - about 6"
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I dont get it.. are u asking a question? And if so.... this is general
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Note 2 is everything for me, after using it so much, the screen size is normal to me ( compared to my previous S3 ) but I really don't mind it being slightly bigger - about 6"
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So you are saying that you'd like it to be more like answering your TV when it rings? Wow.
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This question is redundant for many reasons, the biggest being I've seen about two active threads on XDA, about this...
Cnet: Galaxy Note 3 with 6.3-inch display reportedly in the works
The rumor is that 6.3" will be the next screen size. Whether this is true remains to be seen. Too early to tell.
With a 16:9 aspect ratio for the screen, that would mean the width of the phone would grow approximately 0.375" more, or 3.5". (Note II's width is 3.125".)
Personally, I actually like the idea. I probably wouldn't even mind a 7" (Approximately 7.25" if I go by 9cm x 16cm.) screen if they keep to the edge thinness around the screen, if not thinner. That should allow the growth of the phone to be as minimal as possible. Of course, I'd stop at 7" for the max size I wouldn't mind on my phone. Any larger and many people will definitely start having problems holding their phones edge to edge.
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I dont get it.. are u asking a question? And if so.... this is general
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So you are saying that you'd like it to be more like answering your TV when it rings? Wow.
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This question is redundant for many reasons, the biggest being I've seen about two active threads on XDA, about this...
Cnet: Galaxy Note 3 with 6.3-inch display reportedly in the works
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General Thread - thus the question
I am basically saying that since many of us got this as pseudo tablet, it would be nice to have a slightly bigger screen so we could read ebooks etc
When I got the S3, screen seemed big and then we get used to it, same with the note - but we could increase that threshold to perfection
Its still a phone man...are u kidding? if thats the case u gonna expect them to make it 8 inches next year???
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Its still a phone man...are u kidding? if thats the case u gonna expect them to make it 8 inches next year???
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I know but much better than carrying 2 devices, what I am saying it would satisfy being a tablet and a regular phone if it was slightly more bigger
I have no issues carrying it now, hands have plenty more room
I wouldn't care for a larger screen so much as I would like Samsung to natively support a better pixel density so that I could fit more onto the screen. Something like 182 instead of the default 240(?).
If they kept the phone the same size, but increased the screen size, it would not be too bad.
I'm wondering if the next Note could eliminate the home button. That would be one way of increasing screen real estate, without making the device too much larger. It could go fully-touchscreen, as Jelly Bean devices are supposed to be, anyway. However, I think the home button has sort of become synonymous with the Galaxy line of devices, so it may stay. I would love 6 - 6.3" inches on the new Note. I wouldn't have issues with mobility.
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I'm wondering if the next Note could eliminate the home button. That would be one way of increasing screen real estate, without making the device too much larger. It could go fully-touchscreen, as Jelly Bean devices are supposed to be, anyway. However, I think the home button has sort of become synonymous with the Galaxy line of devices, so it may stay. I would love 6 - 6.3" inches on the new Note. I wouldn't have issues with mobility.
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Why not 7" I think it will still fit my back pocket gotta love big screen phone.
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Why not 7" I think it will still fit my back pocket gotta love big screen phone.
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Then its like the tablet, but seriously, slightly more bigger would be sweet
I would like to see no home button and screen extended all the way up and down. 6"-6,3" screen would be awesome.
I am fine as is hope they don't make the size of the phone bigger. If they can make screen bigger but keep same size I am OK with that.
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I used to think I'd want a Note 3 to have a 6" screen with small bezels and no home button. Now that I've played with my Note 2 for a week, I'm guessing I'll prefer going the other way. I'd rather have a 5" 1080p phone with very thin side bezels, a thin top bezel, and a thicker bottom bezel with 5 configurable capacitive buttons (I have a Nexus 7 and I like most things Nexus, but disagree with the move to on-screen buttons which most of the time waste real-estate). I'd be fine with a thicker phone too though to get an even bigger battery - heck, I'll take 4000 mAh or more, now that I know what 3100 can do. I knew the Note 2 was long and had tried mockups before buying, but now that I have the real thing, it's a bit too long for me - not a deal breaker, but I no longer think about going bigger. By the time 5" 1080p screens are common items and I upgrade from the Note 2, I hope there will be lots of options, some with pens (which I'm not convinced I need, but an interesting thing to try), and ideally, some without Touchwiz which I really don't like so far - I'm sure I'll be trying a ROM with a more Nexus like experience before I'm done with this phone. Too bad Google missed the ball (for me) so badly with the Nexus 4, I would have liked to consider it. Maybe the Nexus 5 or whatever the first 1080p Nexus will be called will be better.
Yes it will has 6 inch screen
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I used to think I'd want a Note 3 to have a 6" screen with small bezels and no home button. Now that I've played with my Note 2 for a week, I'm guessing I'll prefer going the other way. I'd rather have a 5" 1080p phone with very thin side bezels, a thin top bezel, and a thicker bottom bezel with 5 configurable capacitive buttons (I have a Nexus 7 and I like most things Nexus, but disagree with the move to on-screen buttons which most of the time waste real-estate). I'd be fine with a thicker phone too though to get an even bigger battery - heck, I'll take 4000 mAh or more, now that I know what 3100 can do. I knew the Note 2 was long and had tried mockups before buying, but now that I have the real thing, it's a bit too long for me - not a deal breaker, but I no longer think about going bigger. By the time 5" 1080p screens are common items and I upgrade from the Note 2, I hope there will be lots of options, some with pens (which I'm not convinced I need, but an interesting thing to try), and ideally, some without Touchwiz which I really don't like so far - I'm sure I'll be trying a ROM with a more Nexus like experience before I'm done with this phone. Too bad Google missed the ball (for me) so badly with the Nexus 4, I would have liked to consider it. Maybe the Nexus 5 or whatever the first 1080p Nexus will be called will be better.
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This has absolutely no chance in hell of happening, for a plethora of reasons.
1) It would be going backwards, when sales of the Galaxy Note line have proven that people like phones with really large screens, so Samsung backtracking to anything smaller that 5.5" inches would be stupid, and would eventually run into product overlap.
2) The product overlap would come with the rumored Galaxy S4. The S4 is strongly rumored to have a 5" screen. There's probably a good chance it will also have 1080p, but I sort of doubt it. At any rate, there would be no business case for Samsung to have two products that are virtually identical. The S III already shares a significant amount of the Note IIs features, sans having an S Pen. You make a Note III with a 5" screen and you'll just have an S4 with an S Pen. That's utterly asinine.
3) I'm willing to bet the vast majority of people wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a 720p screen and a 1080p screen. This is just the hype for this year. Seems like every year there a new hype geared towards sheep and ill-informed people. One year it was 3D technology. Last year it was quad core technology. This year its 1080p. Another year photo pixels were all the rave. Another year Apple's retina display was all the rave. Pretty much none of those things mean jack s*** in the grand scheme of things. I remember when I was going to purchase a new 40"+ 3D LED TV. I read many reviews to see if there was a huge difference between 720p and full-1080p HD. EVERY review stated that the only time the difference between 720p & 1080p became noticeable and worth considering, was when you had a screen larger than 40". So, if that's true, there's no way in hell anyone is seeing a noteworthy screen difference in a device as small as a cellular phone. At one point, I had a 720p Plasma HDTV and a 3D LED HDTV, simultaneously. To be honest, I was more impressed with the display on my 720p plasma, than I am on my 1080p 3D TV I ended up keeping. And I only kept the 3D television because it was packed with more features that sort of leveled the playing field.
If you desire as smaller phone, the great thing about Android, is that there's seemingly an endless array of phones to choose from. Get an S III or S4 or DNA or Nexus. Sounds like the Note II isn't a good fit for you.
Currently I'm sure I can't tell the difference between 1280x720 and 1920x1080 for a 5" display. When I finally break down and admit I'm old enough to use reading glasses (which I should have done years ago as my close focus distance moved from 7" where it used to be to 13" now), then I suspect I will be able to tell the difference when holding my phone closer than 8". Other than focus, I have no issue holding my phone that close and I'll be able to get that much more detail into my brain (from maps, text, whatever). You can call 1080p hype if you want, but I think it is still actual progress. I don't know what photo pixels are, and I was not interested in 3D myself, but 1080p I am optimistic about.
Sorry if I'm not following thread rules or something - I'm just saying what I was thinking. I agree that Samsung Note 3 will quite likely go bigger, especially if the S4 is bigger. Who knows, anything could happen by the time I get another phone - maybe the glasses concept will be so appealing, I'll go that route.
I chose the Note II because a) I wanted a 5" or more display, b) I wanted to try out the s-pen concept which I don't know if it will be for me or not till I try, c) I wanted a big battery, and SD storage, d) I don't want to change carriers since as much as I don't like AT&T for many reasons, I'm on a family plan which I don't want to change and they are the only carrier with good coverage over my work campus. I ruled out the Nexus 4 and the Droid DNA pretty fast though I looked at them. I absolutely didn't need LTE and my data experience with AT&T around Los Angeles for a few days and Las Vegas for a few days has been very unimpressive - no better than my previous 3GS iPhone. Hopefully that will improve as the network improves.
Anyway, it's pretty early to speculate now - I better get back to figuring out how to use my phone to get my core iPhone use cases working again: podcasts, visual voicemail (both of these use cases require installing add on software I've found), offline topographic maps (I have 3 programs I've been trying on the Nexus 7), and a few other things. For ROMs, the HyperNote sounded the most interesting to me, but it seems like the AT&T model won't run many ROMs yet (e.g. no HyperNote yet) - I hope this is some transitional issue as porting ROMs from the International to the various carrier versions (which is a huge annoyance to me that this fracturing even exists) is worked out.
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If they kept the phone the same size, but increased the screen size, it would not be too bad.
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This. I wouldn't want anything physically bigger, but if they can remove more bezel (and NOT remove physical buttons), That would be sweet.
Not bought this tablet yet as only the 16gb is currently available in the UK and I'm after the 32gb.
My question is with regards to the S Pen accuracy and responsiveness on this tablet. From the videos I've seen online, the S Pen looks both accurate and responsive. When I tried it out in the shop (Samsung store at Westfield Centre, Stratford), I was pleased with the results. So much so that I've already gone out and bought the S Pen with eraser despite not having a tablet to use it on.
I've been reading every review I can get my hands on, but most just seem to compare the tablet to a standard capacitive screen tablet and almost dismiss the S Pen and functionality that it brings to the table.
One review that seemed to cover the S Pen in detail said it was good but didnt match the feel and responsiveness of the Surface Pro. Has anyone had any issue with using there Note 8.0 for drawing? If the answer is yes (although I suspect there is no issue, only that the reviewer was being particularly picky...), is it only with the pen that comes with the tablet or are all wacom compatible pens slightly unresponsive on this tablet? The exact complaint is to do with lag and palm regection...
- cant post link as I am a new member. it was on AnandTech
If there is lag, then my guess is that its OS or processor related (although the 1.6GHz Samsung Exynos 4412 is no slouch), may be rooting it, replacing the kernal and overclocking it would help. I wouldnt want to replace the ROM as I think alot of the functionality of touchwiz sounds useful.
I cant afford the surface pro plus its larger than I would like. I'm just looking for some confidence that I'm investing in the right device for my intended use (portable sketching, inking and colouring of images using either sketchbook pro or layerpaint). Any other functionality on top of that is a bonus (I do enjoy a bit of gaming).
Sorry for the long post. It's my first and I wanted to be clear with my question and expectations from this tablet.
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Sorry for the long post. It's my first and I wanted to be clear with my question and expectations from this tablet.
Ben
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The S-Pen is leaps and bounds better than any non-Wacom solution, you already know this but it should be stated regardless. As far as accuracy, it is pretty much the crispest experience available right now. The Win8 tablets have the same digitizer specs, and no increases in sensitivity. The extra real estate on an 11.6" tablet vs. an 8" tablet is about the only benefit the Surface has over any of the Note series. I own a Note 1, Note 2, Note 8.0 and a Fujitsu Tablet PC (previously the most accurate Wacom device in my quiver.) and the Note 8 is far and above the most accurate and sensitivity is excellent. I think most of the reviews are playing with S-Note and assuming that's as good as it gets, but the S-Note app is geared toward writing, and when you use Photoshop Touch, the sensitivity REALLY shines. I can draw fine hairs and detail with ease.
Hope this helps you!
It's accurate and responsive. A fabulous little sketching tablet paired with Sketchbook Pro for tablets.
The calibration of the point to nib is better than I have achieved on my Surface Pro.
Also, you shouldn't compare a Surface Pro to the Note 8.0. They aren't in the same class of machine or tablet.
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Also, you shouldn't compare a Surface Pro to the Note 8.0. They aren't in the same class of machine or tablet.
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Can I get a little extra clarification on this point? What I'm after is a portable tablet that I can use for sketching. I dont care what OS or manufacturer it is. I just want something I can chuck in my backpack and take out and draw on when im away from home. To me, my only options are Samsung Note 10, 8.0 or surface pro. I dont know anything else that is appropriate which is why I have classed them together. Different OS, but similar format and both use Wacom Digitizer tech.
I'm going to have to get it on credit as my funds are tight at the moment so dont want to break the bank. What should i be comparing the Notes to for portable drawing use?
Thanks for you reply
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The Win8 tablets have the same digitizer specs, and no increases in sensitivity. The extra real estate on an 11.6" tablet vs. an 8" tablet is about the only benefit the Surface has over any of the Note series.
I think most of the reviews are playing with S-Note and assuming that's as good as it gets, but the S-Note app is geared toward writing, and when you use Photoshop Touch, the sensitivity REALLY shines. I can draw fine hairs and detail with ease.
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That does help. Thanks!
I hadnt realised the Surface was 11 inches. I thought it was 10". I've only seen them in adverts to be fair and once I saw the price of the pro, had no interest in reasearching it further.
That could be it... I used S-Note for about a minute in the store before deciding to move on to a dedicated drawing programme. Heard complaints about photoshop touch from other forums that are focused around digital art. Thats what lead me to the decision to use Sketchbook Pro (which i already have on my ASUS TF101 but dont use as its horrible on a touch screen) or LayerPaint (which seems to be the most praised but I have no experience with personally).
The trouble I have found with most reviews to date is that they are geared towards general users. I consider this a specialist device which is why im looking for specific feed back on those uses. It will replace my note pad, sketchbook and current tablet.
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The calibration of the point to nib is better than I have achieved on my Surface Pro. QUOTE]
I'm assuming you can adjust this. My girlfriend has the original note phone, but I wasnt particularlly impressed with its accuracy. I tried the *#0*# trick (or what ever the code is) to get you into calibration mode, but it only seemed to help a little bit. the point on the screen seemed to be perminantly offset from where i was pointing the tip. This was very frustrating, Id get used to it in one orientation, then turn the phone 90 degrees and completely miss the point i was trying to draw next.
I've also read the trick about taking the button of the S Pens so that you can fine tune the pressure sensitivitiy by adjusting the potentiometer closest to the tip (turn clockwise to decrease, anti clockwise to increase sensitivity).
So it seems like there is room to manuvor to adjust the experience to my prefference.
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I'm not much of an artist, but I do love to doodle and I've found that doing so on the Note 8 is as close to doing it on paper as I've ever seen on a computing device (outside of an actual Wacom tablet, that is). The bigger part for me, however, is the ability to take hand written notes. For this, the accuracy is nearly perfect and its ability to ignore my palm while writing justified the extra cost over a standard tablet.
Why this part is glossed over in most reviews of the device is beyond me. Unless there's another device on the market in at a reasonably similar price point, the head lines may as well read "Galaxy Note 8 is sill not an iPad Mini".
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Can I get a little extra clarification on this point? What I'm after is a portable tablet that I can use for sketching. I dont care what OS or manufacturer it is. I just want something I can chuck in my backpack and take out and draw on when im away from home. To me, my only options are Samsung Note 10, 8.0 or surface pro. I dont know anything else that is appropriate which is why I have classed them together. Different OS, but similar format and both use Wacom Digitizer tech.
I'm going to have to get it on credit as my funds are tight at the moment so dont want to break the bank. What should i be comparing the Notes to for portable drawing use?
Thanks for you reply
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The Note 8 is better suited to this. Surface Pro is a full computer in Tablet form factor. But if you just want to sketch, buying a $3 sketchbook is much cheaper since you said you have to buy on credit. Never good to go into debt for things that get outdated so quickly.
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That does help. Thanks!
I hadnt realised the Surface was 11 inches. I thought it was 10". I've only seen them in adverts to be fair and once I saw the price of the pro, had no interest in reasearching it further.
That could be it... I used S-Note for about a minute in the store before deciding to move on to a dedicated drawing programme. Heard complaints about photoshop touch from other forums that are focused around digital art. Thats what lead me to the decision to use Sketchbook Pro (which i already have on my ASUS TF101 but dont use as its horrible on a touch screen) or LayerPaint (which seems to be the most praised but I have no experience with personally).
The trouble I have found with most reviews to date is that they are geared towards general users. I consider this a specialist device which is why im looking for specific feed back on those uses. It will replace my note pad, sketchbook and current tablet.
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LayerPaint is good, but I think Sketchbook Pro is better. The tools are more pencil like and geared toward sketching. I find LayerPaint more difficult to use. But I've also used Sketchbook Pro for a couple years (on iPad, then PC and now on PC and Android). Another app I really enjoy is called Infinite Painter. Good tool, nice developer that I like supporting.
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The calibration of the point to nib is better than I have achieved on my Surface Pro. QUOTE]
I'm assuming you can adjust this. My girlfriend has the original note phone, but I wasnt particularlly impressed with its accuracy. I tried the *#0*# trick (or what ever the code is) to get you into calibration mode, but it only seemed to help a little bit. the point on the screen seemed to be perminantly offset from where i was pointing the tip. This was very frustrating, Id get used to it in one orientation, then turn the phone 90 degrees and completely miss the point i was trying to draw next.
I've also read the trick about taking the button of the S Pens so that you can fine tune the pressure sensitivitiy by adjusting the potentiometer closest to the tip (turn clockwise to decrease, anti clockwise to increase sensitivity).
So it seems like there is room to manuvor to adjust the experience to my prefference.
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The Note 1 should not be used to judge modern SPen devices. It had a gimped 256-stage digitizer and very low thresholds. It is in no way comparable to the current gen, amd was generally only good for writing.
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hertsjoatmon said:
The Note 1 should not be used to judge modern SPen devices. It had a gimped 256-stage digitizer and very low thresholds. It is in no way comparable to the current gen, amd was generally only good for writing.
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Agreed, I had an Original Note and it was pretty poor in comparison to what's in the Note II or Note 8.0. Samsung has done a really good job with this device. I think it's a little expensive, but it's exactly what I've been looking for in a tablet for about a year. I think I've tried 5-6 tablets since I started the quest.
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Agreed, I had an Original Note and it was pretty poor in comparison to what's in the Note II or Note 8.0. Samsung has done a really good job with this device. I think it's a little expensive, but it's exactly what I've been looking for in a tablet for about a year. I think I've tried 5-6 tablets since I started the quest.
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Thanks for the advice. Taking it all on board (including the part about may be not getting one due to money issues) I think I'm definitely on board and want this. I can get 16 months interest free. Paying it back £50 a month is acheivable for me.
The reason I want to move on from pen and paper is the bulk/ storage of said medium and the ability to ink and colour my images for other use. I like the idea of doing short comics. Being able to work on the cells both home and away is a big attraction. In addition I dont like the size and weight of my 10 inch tablet as it means I have to carry a larger bag than is otherwise necessary.
Being able to reduce my 10 inch tab, not pad and sketchbook to just one device that is smaller than all of those individually is huge for me. I also carry a camera with me everywhere (NEX 5N). I think this device would be ideal for me to review and cull any missed shots while out and about. I'm looking at RawDroid for that purpose and using a class 10 MicroSD card with my Camera.
Not decided to wait for the 3G version or not. My phone is a Blackberry Curve 9360. I am able to use that as a wireless mobile hotspot. I dont think my service provider charges me extra for it, but it is an extra step in setting it up when needed. I think reading through what I just wrote, I'm ok with the WIFI only version. How long until the 32GB is available? :victory:
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I own the Optimus G Pro (AT&T) as well as the HTC One and Galaxy S4. I love them all in different ways, but I find myself returning to the G Pro more often.
My Note II felt too big and the lack of one-handed utility used to get to me. I don't feel that way about my G Pro. It's still too big for many one-handed tasks, but fits much better in my hand.
I don't know if it's a lack of advertising push on LGs part, disinterest by bloggers in general, or what, but this phone, much like the Optimus G is at a serious disadvantage when it comes to:
Accessories
Dev Support
Reviews/News coverage
There isn't even a lot of activity in XDA for this device. It's sad to me, because it's an excellent device. So, let me tell you what my favorite things about this phone are:
I love the SMS popup in the upper left corner. It's a small thing, but it's done well and I find it useful
I like the screen real estate, much as I did on my Note 2, but in a smaller package and 1080p
Unlike the GS4, there's virtually no lag. The UI is smooth, second only to the HTC One
Video compression - I love that if you want to send a video through MMS, you get the option to "trim" it, but you don't have to. It will simply compress it to the maximum allowable size for MMS, much like iOS. No other Android device does this and it's a great feature if you like to share videos over MMS and the quality isn't super important.
Notification light- The notification light on this thing is awesome and hard to miss. On my HTC one, it's pretty hard to see sometimes and it randomly just stops blinking even if I haven't checked the notification.
Wireless charging out of the box (AT&T) without adding a bulky back that makes it incompatible with cases (looking at you, GS4).
Quickmemo. I find this much more useful. First of all, it's instant, unlike the Note 2. Second, not having to remove the styllus makes it much more convenient. I use it to take screenshots of things I want to show people and circle them. Very handy.
Overall, the only thing I would really change is the camera quality. I wish it were a little better. I even like LG's skin okay. It adds more to the Android experience than it ruins.
Let keep it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2273275&page=29
I m looking to buy a tablet, but torn between the two. I play with both device in Best Buy, they both look awesome. I do like the LG for the bigger screen, thin design, look good, and sd card, read about it people stating battery is not very good about 6-7 hours, and dpi is only 273. I like Nexus cuz it come with google pure 4.3 and 4.4 is coming, no bloat ware, the screen is nicer brighter, 323dpi, but smaller screen, one thing I don't like cuz it doesn't have sd card expansion, and heard GPS is a problem. LG 16gb/w microsd slot for $349. And Nexus 32Gb/no slot for $269. Which one is the right one to buy here......Or Nexus 8 rumor coming....
I had the nexus 7, but v will never go back, after playing with the G PAD. IT,s so great on many things. Clever progs, great screen and a little bigger screen. And it,s Damn fast too ?
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I had the nexus 7, but v will never go back, after playing with the G PAD. IT,s so great on many things. Clever progs, great screen and a little bigger screen. And it,s Damn fast too ?
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Agreed. I love mine. It's rooted, sat at 100% since this afternoon 12, and it's 12:45 am right now, and still sitting at 100%. So, the idle battery doesn't even die much unless you're letting useless programs run. I use Advanced Task Killer. Have always used it for my Note 1, Note 2, Note 3, and now my LG G Pad. Works wonders and keeps battery levels great. Just make sure you don't kill any random apps that keep opening up. Also, it's good to freeze useless apps with Titanium if you're rooted. It's super smooth. I've had zero issues with it.
I had the '13 Nexus 7, and while it's a great device (love wireless charging) I found the screen size too small.
I absolutely love the G Pad. I think the 8.3 screen is just about perfect, and the the LG stock rom is very good.
Unlike some people, the battery life has been exceptional for me, and the brightness doesn't bother me much since I usually use the device in bed to read.
I was set on getting the 32gb nexus 7 but then the best buy pre-order popped up for the G Pad. The added screen size, overall design/ build and expand doable memory moved me this way. Loving this thing.
I went through 3 32gb 2013 Nexus 7s. They each had the multi-touch bug, even after the last 4.3 update (JSS15Q?). They were beyond unusable. Couldn't play games, couldn't use Google Maps, could barely use Chrome. I won't be trying any other Asus made Nexus devices for a while, it's clear they cut too many corners trying to keep costs down. I'm probably going to get a G Pad 8.3 but I'm waiting to see if any development is going to come to it. Been a bit slow so far.
I have a nexus flo and a g2...love my g2 ...nexus is plain and dull..screen is great but the stock os takes zero advantage of it, and some apps look worse then they do on my g2... I don't get people's fascination with stock android. I'm guessing the g pad would be close ui wise to the phone, and, had it been out before I bought my nexus it'd be g pad hands down.
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Have them Both
My Nexus 7 (2013) has hardware issues.
I've had the G Pad 8.3 for 2 weeks now. My Nexus 7 has been to the repair center and soon I'll be sending it to a landfill and not looking back.
The G Pad rocks.
I think that the only advantages of the nexus are that it's smoother, lighter and the screen is brighter. Only had the gpad two days so I guess I still have to really make my mind about it.
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i'll probably buy one, but waiting to see if anyone starts working on some custom roms for it first
Hard to compare with the size difference... I find the 7 to be too small and have crazy large bezels. I am very happy to be getting the G Pad with the 8.3. With newegg's price they are almost the same (I got mine for 260... only a 30 dollar difference)
The nexus will get more updates but I find stripped android to be boring unless you have custom roms with Mods. The G Pad will have little to no updates so you get what you get. Still excited!
well good news, looks like we'll see something eventually. dalingrin just bought one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47958836&postcount=26
i have a lot to thank him for, especially since he did work on the hp touchpad
For me, GPad has better aspect ratio then N7 - it's better for daily use
I have both on the way right now and will only keep one... I will post impressions here if you think it would help
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I know this isn't what some will want to hear since this is the G Pad forum after all, but I had the G Pad for about a week. It wasn't a bad tablet, but I returned it to Best Buy and decided to wait for either hard evidence of a Nexus 8 or a good deal on a Nexus 7. I got the N7 32gb last week for $229 and haven't looked back. Even if an N8 was announced today I'd think long and hard about keeping the N7 assuming there'd be a significant price difference.
The N7 is as fast as I could want it to be. I wouldn't say it's noticeably slower than my Nexus 5. Where the N5 has pretty much zero lag, the N7 will lag occasionally, but that's the only difference. Otherwise it is buttery smooth. I was skeptical about whether or not the N7 would work for me b/c I thought the 7 inch screen would be too small, but after having it for a week, I'm totally satisfied with it. It's great for reading and browsing and even works well for comics. As for the bezels...I see people use this as a knock on the N7 and I used to think the same way, but after having the G Pad for a week I realized that you need to have some bezel if you want to be able to hold the thing comfortably. With the G Pad I kept accidentally touching the edge of the screen while trying to hold it and it was really irritating.
One of my biggest complaints about the G Pad was the dim screen -- seriously, it's ridiculously dim...by comparison I was able to read a book on the N7 at under 50% brightness with the sun coming in through a window behind me, whereas the G Pad was almost unusable in any conditions under 50% brightness. I also had the blue line which it seems to me every G Pad has. I know it's hard to notice, but I don't like that it appears when the thing heats up...speaks to possible greater quality control/reliability issues.
Anyway a summary of why I prefer the N7:
Better battery life observed (I get closer to 7 or 8 hours of screen time on the N7 where I got around 5-6 on the G Pad)
Brighter screen on the N7...like Waaaay brighter
More comfortable to hold, both b/c of the bezels and because of the grippy back -- found the G Pad to be too slippery
Stock android (got Kit Kat already)
I have had no issues at all with the N7...I know some have touchscreen issues but mine has worked flawlessly.
B/c I have an N4 and N5 in the household I am getting wireless chargers for all 3 devices.
The G Pad is not bad and I would probably say if you absolutely positively must have 8+ inches then you should get it if you can find a deal, but if I was holding out for that particular size still I would wait to see exactly what the LG V510 is first (i believe it is a Nexus 8, but don't think it is necessarily imminent). For me, the 7 inch screen is working out just fine, so if you think you'd be satisfied with that size then I would say get a Nexus 7.
i've been spoiled on 10 inch tablets and its hard to 'upgrade' to a new 7 inch one. 8.3 seems like a compromise, still small but not too small as a 7. hopefully that rumor would be true. it looks like the specs are near identical to the gpad though, maybe google will just rebrand the gpad as a nexus?
x000x said:
i've been spoiled on 10 inch tablets and its hard to 'upgrade' to a new 7 inch one. 8.3 seems like a compromise, still small but not too small as a 7. hopefully that rumor would be true. it looks like the specs are near identical to the gpad though, maybe google will just rebrand the gpad as a nexus?
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The V510 could be a Nexus 8 or it could be a G Pad LTE. Either is possible.
yeah, i'm hoping for a nexus version b/c i do like nexus devices, but who knows at this point. i read up on the leaked manual today. not much more info to be gleaned from it however =/
the gpad is on sale for $249 at newegg today with promo code CYBERMND16. thursday there was a flash sale for $179, which i sadly missed. tempting prices.
x000x said:
i've been spoiled on 10 inch tablets and its hard to 'upgrade' to a new 7 inch one. 8.3 seems like a compromise, still small but not too small as a 7. hopefully that rumor would be true. it looks like the specs are near identical to the gpad though, maybe google will just rebrand the gpad as a nexus?
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for me, 7 and 10 inches are almost not even comparable. I have a 10 inch tablet, and specifically wanted something smaller so it was easier to hold while reading and such. The 7 is filling that niche nicely for me.
G pad has been in the drawer for a while now. Nexus 7 is just so much better to use for me. G pad screen is too dark, sound is crap and it feels like it weighs twice as much as the Nexus. Yes for some things it might be better than the Nexus, but the Nexus is so nice to use overall.
Probably sell it or give it to my mom next time I visit her.
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Hello,
Im thinking of buying this today, My basic usuage will be for reading books,
Would this screen size be a issue for reading or should i go for 10.1 ?
veenab said:
Hello,
Im thinking of buying this today, My basic usuage will be for reading books,
Would this screen size be a issue for reading or should i go for 10.1 ?
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In my opinion. This is the perfect size for reading. That is one of my primary usages for the 8.4. Larger=heavier=lesser reading experience.
veenab said:
Hello,
Im thinking of buying this today, My basic usuage will be for reading books,
Would this screen size be a issue for reading or should i go for 10.1 ?
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Depends on what you are willing to read. For e-books, I'd actually aim at a 7" tablet that you can easily hold in one hand, which is not the case of the Tab S 8.4.
In e-books the fonts are scaleable, and an app such as Moon+ reader allows you to scroll the text as you read for optimized reading ergonomy. In my opinion, handling comfort is more important than screen size.
I personally use a 2nd gen Nexus 7, which is not only easier to manipulate but also offers a smoother scrolling than Tab S 8.4, but I beleive Huawei X1 to be an even better option for this usage.
If you are more interested in comics, then a larger screen will be more comfortable. 7" is good enough with scrolling, 8.4" is more comfortable but 10.5" is better for this usage as it allows to decently display a full page in portrait mode.
ukael said:
Depends on what you are willing to read. For e-books, I'd actually aim at a 7" tablet that you can easily hold in one hand, which is not the case of the Tab S 8.4.
In e-books the fonts are scaleable, and an app such as Moon+ reader allows you to scroll the text as you read for optimized reading ergonomy. In my opinion, handling comfort is more important than screen size.
I personally use a 2nd gen Nexus 7, which is not only easier to manipulate but also offers a smoother scrolling than Tab S 8.4, but I beleive Huawei X1 to be an even better option for this usage.
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The 2nd gen Nexus 7 got the same weight as the Tab S 8.4 or to be more precise, it's 290 g against 294 g. Besides that, the Tab S actually feels a bit lighter to me because the weight is more balanced in that slightly bigger device. I bought the Tab S last week after using the Nexus for a year for its better screen as well as the sd slot and the lack of multitouch issues (which plague all N7 2nd gen IMO more or less). Anyway, I did prefer 7" before the purchase but now I thing the (light weight) 8.4 device is a better compromise all around. The handling comfort is really around the same or for me a bit better on the Tab S and it is just as mobile (fits easily in the back pocket of my baggy jeans).
ukael said:
If you are more interested in comics, then a larger screen will be more comfortable. 7" is good enough with scrolling, 8.4" is more comfortable but 10.5" is better for this usage as it allows to decently display a full page in portrait mode.
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Yeah, Comixology as well as CBZ/CBR files profit allot from the noticeable size increase (still talking about N7 2k13 against Tab S 8.4). Plus the deep blacks (as well as the vibrant and adjustable colors) help with the large black parts in most comic art and keep the battery usage down.
TheGoD said:
The 2nd gen Nexus 7 got the same weight as the Tab S 8.4 or to be more precise, it's 290 g against 294 g. Besides that, the Tab S actually feels a bit lighter to me because the weight is more balanced in that slightly bigger device. I bought the Tab S last week after using the Nexus for a year for its better screen as well as the sd slot and the lack of multitouch issues (which plague all N7 2nd gen IMO more or less). Anyway, I did prefer 7" before the purchase but now I thing the (light weight) 8.4 device is a better compromise all around. The handling comfort is really around the same or for me a bit better on the Tab S and it is just as mobile (fits easily in the back pocket of my baggy jeans).
Yeah, Comixology as well as CBZ/CBR files profit allot from the noticeable size increase (still talking about N7 2k13 against Tab S 8.4). Plus the deep blacks (as well as the vibrant and adjustable colors) help with the large black parts in most comic art and keep the battery usage down.
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Interesting points you highlight here. The handling comfort seems to be a matter of personal preference. As far as I am concerned, I use the Nexus 7 without cover, and hold it in one hand when reading.
The Tab S is the same weight without cover, but I find it less comfortable to hold single handed. Worse, I find the samsung touchkeys to be a permanent annoyance when handling the tab without a cover, because its borders are so thin it's though to find a proper place to grip on it. I therefore use it exclusively with its top grade official cover, which is an awesome stand and improves handling but adds 50% weight and doesn't make it thinner for single handed use.
That and the fact the N7 offers a smoother experience on Moon+ Reader lead me to prefer it for ebooks reading. And I can't help thinking about how good the Huawei X1 with its 220g should be for this usage.
Now, I totally agree that the tab S's size is more versatile option. 8.4" is an excellent compromise that led me to completely give up on 10" tablets. But I'm not much of a comics reader, and don't care about the screen size for movies.
ukael said:
Depends on what you are willing to read. For e-books, I'd actually aim at a 7" tablet that you can easily hold in one hand, which is not the case of the Tab S 8.4.
In e-books the fonts are scaleable, and an app such as Moon+ reader allows you to scroll the text as you read for optimized reading ergonomy. In my opinion, handling comfort is more important than screen size.
I personally use a 2nd gen Nexus 7, which is not only easier to manipulate but also offers a smoother scrolling than Tab S 8.4, but I beleive Huawei X1 to be an even better option for this usage.
If you are more interested in comics, then a larger screen will be more comfortable. 7" is good enough with scrolling, 8.4" is more comfortable but 10.5" is better for this usage as it allows to decently display a full page in portrait mode.
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Not comics but my basically study material ( programming languagues,etc)
I already ordered a Tab S 8.4 on ebay,