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OS update timing

Do GPE devices get updated about as fast as Nexus devices?
How about typical timing of custom ROMs compared to releases for GPE?
The GPE is more expensive than stock (at least, in the US based on sales for the stock edition) and I'm trying to figure out if it's worth it.
Apologies if I missed something in search.

foosion said:
Do GPE devices get updated about as fast as Nexus devices?
How about typical timing of custom ROMs compared to releases for GPE?
The GPE is more expensive than stock (at least, in the US based on sales for the stock edition) and I'm trying to figure out if it's worth it.
Apologies if I missed something in search.
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Google Play Editions are second to get the updates, usually within a week of the nexus devices, while the lg V500 still hasn't recieved kitkat yet.
Really, I wouldn't worry too much about kitkat or not. A lot of hype. There are a couple of stable roms for the lgv500 now, and only a stock starter rom for the gpe as it is already bare bones, and with the edition of xposed and a custom kernel, doesn't really need anything else. All of the roms are running kitkat as far as i know.
The only note of interest here is that the lgv500 (not GPE) does not currently have the screen adjusted in any of the roms that I know of -- Somebody please correct me if I am wrong about that. There is however, someone working on a custom kernel for the 500 to fix that issue.
Hate to say it but you may want to check out the 8.4 galaxy tab pro.

Google play edition or not??

I can pick up both Google pay edition or normal retail edition with similar price. Which one is better to buy? I saw most customized ROMs are made for V500, can they also installed for Google edition? if not, does Google edition only have a very limited ROM available?

ccheung said:
I can pick up both Google pay edition or normal retail edition with similar price. Which one is better to buy? I saw most customized ROMs are made for V500, can they also installed for Google edition? if not, does Google edition only have a very limited ROM available?
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This really comes down to personal preference. However the roms for the V500 do not work on the V510 and vice versa. The hardware appears to be different enough that folks have been unable to make "universal" roms for both devices.

i bought the non gpe v500 g pad but if i had the option to do it i would pick the google one...Its much smoother and the ui is simplistick.with the lg roms you got too much unnecessery apps and visuals that requieres memory.
Now im using CM rom and i see much different in ui workspace.
GO FOR THE GOOGLE EDITION!

ccheung said:
I can pick up both Google pay edition or normal retail edition with similar price. Which one is better to buy? I saw most customized ROMs are made for V500, can they also installed for Google edition? if not, does Google edition only have a very limited ROM available?
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Bill_windows said:
i bought the non gpe v500 g pad but if i had the option to do it i would pick the google one...Its much smoother and the ui is simplistick.with the lg roms you got too much unnecessery apps and visuals that requieres memory.
Now im using CM rom and i see much different in ui workspace.
GO FOR THE GOOGLE EDITION!
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I started with V500. Sold it on swappa.com and bought a GPE. Much smoother, faster tablet.

I just got my GPE and really like its kk4.4.4 smoothness & speed. Unlocked & Rooted it, then flashed Sleeks kernel and using Exposed!

cam30era said:
I started with V500. Sold it on swappa.com and bought a GPE. Much smoother, faster tablet.
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or you can flash a ROM!mines also goes fast right now with custom rom

4.2.2 JB needed for offline marine navigation.

I have the VZN LG G3 unlocked, rooted, w TWRP and no bloat and I'm loving it, so I thought I would look into the G pad 10".
I would be using it among other things quite often for marine GPS navigation and upgrading my 7" to a 10" at a reasonable price $249. The issue I have is that with Android 4.4.2 Navionics then makes you switch to a new app with subscription services built in and it's ridiculous that I can't use my maps on the new app and my paid version (old) app force closes and is a know complaint and everyone is pissed about it in the sailing world, so I need to find a Tablet that is or will downgrade to 4.2.2 JB which is completely fine with me. What are your thoughts, I'd rather not go to a samsung tab 3, but I'm not sure I can get the G pad to 4.2.2. with what seems like so little going on e.g. only 2 roms in the dev section.
What do you guys think?

stewbuntu said:
I have the VZN LG G3 unlocked, rooted, w TWRP and no bloat and I'm loving it, so I thought I would look into the G pad 10".
I would be using it among other things quite often for marine GPS navigation and upgrading my 7" to a 10" at a reasonable price $249. The issue I have is that with Android 4.4.2 Navionics then makes you switch to a new app with subscription services built in and it's ridiculous that I can't use my maps on the new app and my paid version (old) app force closes and is a know complaint and everyone is pissed about it in the sailing world, so I need to find a Tablet that is or will downgrade to 4.2.2 JB which is completely fine with me. What are your thoughts, I'd rather not go to a samsung tab 3, but I'm not sure I can get the G pad to 4.2.2. with what seems like so little going on e.g. only 2 roms in the dev section.
What do you guys think?
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No way u will run JB on this device... Would be avery hacky process i think.
Look for g pad 8.3 or buy something like a bq edison. Something running 4.2.2 out of the box

Thinking about buying the LG G4.. how stable are the custom roms?

So I finally broke my Galaxy S4 last night, and I'm thinking about buying an LG G4 to replace it. However, the LG UI "improvements" look awful, and I bet I would be changing the firmware pretty soon if I get it. So with that in mind, I'm wondering if I should be buying the phone. Is CM13 or other roms stable enough that replacing the stock rom a good idea on a new phone?
I'm also considering any any other phone in the same price range, including the Moto X Style (Pure).

Unless you're looking to get the T-Mobile (811) or the International EU (815) version, there is no way to install custom roms. Those are the only two unlockable variants.
The other versions are rootable if you stay on 5.1.1 LP, but if you want 6.0 MM, you'll be stuck with the T-Mobile or EU Int version. There is no way to root all the other variants on 6.0

Luckily, I would be getting the 815 version.

As far as I can tell the ROMs based on stock are very stable. You won't even notice the difference. CM and CM based ROMs are the usual. Stable but have a few annoying bugs. I haven't really tried any AOSP so I won't speak for those

Heres my opinion.i have a tmobile version and if i flasha custom rom it seems to drop the bands as i cannot get signal in places where i can on stock based custom roms or pure stock rom.it does not switch between towers properly and i lose the ability to make or recieve calls.when i check phone info on aosp or cm based roms it shows it uses only 4 of the 12 bands i have.

Overlord Yuri said:
So I finally broke my Galaxy S4 last night, and I'm thinking about buying an LG G4 to replace it. However, the LG UI "improvements" look awful, and I bet I would be changing the firmware pretty soon if I get it. So with that in mind, I'm wondering if I should be buying the phone. Is CM13 or other roms stable enough that replacing the stock rom a good idea on a new phone?
I'm also considering any any other phone in the same price range, including the Moto X Style (Pure).
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I made the same transition; from Galaxy S4 to Lg G4.
I'm running stock with Xposed. The G4 Tweaksbox app has a themes option and I've got a stock android one applied. It's really stable (I always expect themes to go crazy). The only other thing is the settings. You can get a stock settings mod but I don't really see the point. It works well enough for me and settings isn't really something you'd aim to be going on everyday anyway.
The clip tray is annoying but can be disabled. Add nova launcher and Google keyboard and it's all good. This is a much better solution than a custom ROM. You'll never get this kind of stability. Not forgetting that your camera app and fm radio and others will also be gone.
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When buying, make sure the serial number starts with 601 or 602 603... These phones were manufactured this year so hopefully won't have the bootloop bug. If buying 2nd hand, ask the seller for the serial. If they can't provide it, ask for the IMEI and look up the serial number using https://imeidata.net/warranty/lg

There are too many references for 6XX bootloop issues, so I wouldn't recommend LG G4 at all , for custom theming,roms etc. Even after replacing motherboards of 5xx to 6xx, the bootloops are something more common than I used to believe...

personally am very happy with g4(601). best combo for me is Genisys Rom 4.2 + SimpleGX KERNEL (then Tweaksbox, xposed & nova launcher). very stable, no lags, speedy, good battery, amazing camera/lg app. downsides are unlocking bootloader voids warranty & the body corner feels painfully sharp after a while in the hand.

I am happy with the G4 too, 601 as well , but unfortunately that doesn't change the fact that there are many issues with the phone! I hope the OP can enjoy and proceed at his own risk of course!

Thanks for the replies guys! At the moment I think I'm leaning towards the Moto X Style, and will probably order it (at pretty much the same price as the G4) tomorrow unless someone talks me out of it.

Overlord Yuri said:
Thanks for the replies guys! At the moment I think I'm leaning towards the Moto X Style, and will probably order it (at pretty much the same price as the G4) tomorrow unless someone talks me out of it.
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I'll be honest with you.....my mom has this phone and has massive battery drain issues, where as I have none. If your going for good battery and fast updates than Motorola will be your best bud, but if you don't mind mediocre battery but a kick ass camera then the G4 will be your best bud. PS it's as good as point and shoot this is coming from someone that does photography for a living.
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I also have little to no faith in LG anymore. Moving on to bigger better things but will ride it out until my upgrade is eligible.
Going back to Samsung, Motorola, Huawei or HTC.
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Going to repeat this over and over again, i don't understand those people who after unboxing immediately install custom ROM (What!? you know what you're buying, you support OEM in this case LG, you support their firmware, skin and now you throwing out your money for something else in many cases worse, facepalm) if you want pure Android you buy Nexus, Motorola maybe, that's it, as Google says "Be together not the same". Installing custom ROM's it's like putting BMW rims on Toyota's car... beside that, G4 don't need a custom ROM, just imagine what your going to deal with custom ROM, awful camera, sound issue, lost functionalities, bugs, strange battery drains, degradation in overall battery life and everything for stock Android look? for latest security patches? themes? it's not worth it atleast now, IMO custom ROM's comes in handy when OEM stop's supporting your device with the latest firmware so if i done calculations right you should look for CM for LG G4 when Android 8-9 comes out. All you need is a root and good kernel then comes a good stuff, long story short, CM is a cancer for latest devices, flagships, believe me and don't think i'm condemning CM.

Frant1c said:
Going to repeat this over and over again, i don't understand those people who after unboxing immediately install custom ROM (What!? you know what you're buying, you support OEM in this case LG, you support their firmware, skin and now you throwing out your money for something else in many cases worse, facepalm) if you want pure Android you buy Nexus, Motorola maybe, that's it, as Google says "Be together not the same". Installing custom ROM's it's like putting BMW rims on Toyota's car... beside that, G4 don't need a custom ROM, just imagine what your going to deal with custom ROM, awful camera, sound issue, lost functionalities, bugs, strange battery drains, degradation in overall battery life and everything for stock Android look? for latest security patches? themes? it's not worth it atleast now, IMO custom ROM's comes in handy when OEM stop's supporting your device with the latest firmware so if i done calculations right you should look for CM for LG G4 when Android 8-9 comes out. All you need is a root and good kernel then comes a good stuff, long story short, CM is a cancer for latest devices, flagships, believe me and don't think i'm condemning CM.
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+1
I used to be one of those who buys a flagship device, then immediately look for bootloader unlock, root and flash. But after having LG G4 for 3 weeks now, stock MM latest, installed with my needed apps and games, I lost the feel of flashing custom ROMs.
G4 is great as it is, although optimizations can be done, a little upgrade here and there. As long as LG supports G4 with updates and with their accessories, then I'll stay with LG as manufacturer. Of they abandon us (like what they did with G PRO), then I'll switch devices.
LG has been my favorite since 2013.

Overlord Yuri said:
Luckily, I would be getting the 815 version.
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Be extremely cautious where you get your 815 from. I bought one from Value basket that was advertised as a European Variant for the express purpose of developing a CFW- When it came it wasn't and they refused to exchange it. I've got an email trail as long as your arm trying to get the thing exchanged but they're just con-merchants.
But it's still an awesome phone....

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if you want pure Android you buy Nexus, Motorola maybe, that's it, as Google says "Be together not the same". Installing custom ROM's it's like putting BMW rims on Toyota's car... beside that, G4 don't need a custom ROM, just imagine what your going to deal with custom ROM, awful camera, sound issue, lost functionalities, bugs, strange battery drains, degradation in overall battery life and everything for stock Android look?
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I do get your point. Buying the G4 would have been a compromise to get some good hardware for a low price, and I hoped to to sweeten that deal even more by customizing the firmware to my liking. However, I ended up getting a second-hand Nexus 6P instead. :victory:

Overlord Yuri said:
I do get your point. Buying the G4 would have been a compromise to get some good hardware for a low price, and I hoped to to sweeten that deal even more by customizing the firmware to my liking. However, I ended up getting a second-hand Nexus 6P instead. :victory:
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Smartest move you could have ever made. LG has left me with a bitter taste in my mouth. Ever since I got my phone back with a new circuit board it feels like a ticking time bomb and I don't use it for anything other than texting, phone use and browsing. How pathetic is that.
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Anyone has compared this tablet vs the Lenovo S8-50F?

Hi!
A local is selling this tablet for $75 so I was considering it vs my current Lenovo S8-50f if the display is any better because of the option of LTE and extra RAM.
Anyone had a chance to compare them? It is a bit of a drive so I am trying to get some feedback before I check it out.
Thanks

I don't know if this helps or if you already know about this feature of the GSMArena website, but have you checked http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=6681&idPhone2=6173?
Keep in mind that the latest official stock ROM for the VK810 runs off of Android 5.0.2 and it's kinda sluggish, and updates to apps via the Play Store take extraordinarily long under Lollipop. I really wish they had at least updated to 5.1.1, which on the Verizon G3 worked noticeably smoother than 5.0.x. So I'd suggest finding out if there's been Android updates for the Lenovo to see if they at least have 5.1.1. Also keep in mind that builds of CyanogenMod 12.1 for the VK810 never got fully reliable for the VK810 in my opinion, and mobile data (and maybe GPS and Bluetooth) didn't work at all, so that's not really an option.
Looks like the Lenovo and the VK810 both have the same RAM and storage. 16 GB of internal storage really sucks IMHO, and I'll never get a tablet with less than 32 GB. I do have a 128 GB MicroSD card in it, at least.
I was running stock but heavily debloated and rooted Lollipop 5.0.2 on my VK810 until recently. I'm rebuilding my flashable debloat zips to take into account the bloat in the last KitKat release as I plan on trying going back to KitKat and will try to stay there. There'll be some things I'll miss about Lollipop but we'll see.
That all said, $75 is a hell of a deal with no contract, but there isn't really any active development for this device, and you already have a working LTE tablet, I wouldn't bother. Sure, another third of an inch larger than on the Lenovo, but that's not much.
Good luck, whatever you decide.