FYI guys our stock Note 10.1 2014s have native support for USB HDDs via On the Go (OTG) cables. However, the drive cannot be NTFS: I tried a couple of different OTG cables, a powered USB hub for powering the HDD, etc, on my NTFS (a 2 TByte Passport) without luck.
I then quick-formatted the Passport to FAT and BAM everything worked perfectly: the USB device was recognized and the native "My Files" app auto-opened to display the contents of the HDD (i.e. an app like "Nexus Media Importer", which I used on my N10, is unnecessary)
Very impressive. I am diggin this tablet more and more...
Zumajay said:
FYI guys our stock Note 10.1 2014s have native support for USB HDDs via On the Go (OTG) cables. However, the drive cannot be NTFS: I tried a couple of different OTG cables, a powered USB hub for powering the HDD, etc, on my NTFS (a 2 TByte Passport) without luck.
I then quick-formatted the Passport to FAT and BAM everything worked perfectly: the USB device was recognized and the native "My Files" app auto-opened to display the contents of the HDD (i.e. an app like "Nexus Media Importer", which I used on my N10, is unnecessary)
Very impressive. I am diggin this tablet more and more...
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Hi
The problem is the Kernel of the P605. On my Galaxy S4 i´ve solved the problem with the installation of a "hacker kernel v7 leak". Now it can read an write NTFS devices.
But for the Note i cant find a other kernel yet :crying:
Rooted users should try OTG Helper ... that seems to do the trick for NTFS.
If this is the case I think I will order a OTG cable right now
@Zumajay So basicallyallI have to do is turn my WD Passport into FAT and it will work via OTG?
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Geordie Affy said:
If this is the case I think I will order a OTG cable right now
@Zumajay So basicallyallI have to do is turn my WD Passport into FAT and it will work via OTG?
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yes, any massive storage with fat32 format, can be read with this tablet, just remember that fat32 has a file size limit of 4gb
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darkuni said:
Rooted users should try OTG Helper ... that seems to do the trick for NTFS.
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not exactl...
you need the ntfs file system drivers inside the kernel in order to read nfts hdd format
I originally tried all of the NTFS mounting apps and none of them worked. Just formatted my HDD's to exFat then there is no 4gb file limit and all works fine.
Marshall1975 said:
I originally tried all of the NTFS mounting apps and none of them worked. Just formatted my HDD's to exFat then there is no 4gb file limit and all works fine.
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Also having root does not help.
The problem is SELinux in Enforcing mode, it blocks all the programs that try to modify System partition by installing, in this case, the NTFS drivers.
Until someone will make a P605 kernel with SELinux in permissive mode, there is no way to manage an NTFS partitioned usb drive.
No more news about samsung note 10 ed. 2014 and solution for ntfs?
inviato dal mio Lg g4 h815 in attesa di qualcosa di nuovo...
Didn't think the P600 can run an external hard drive.
Tried just now with stock rom and Xluco kernel, that one's modded to support NTFS filesystem, but I haven't managed to get any externals to respond to the device.
-plugged in a small pendrive to test, and it reads the device.
-plugged in an external drive and nothing happens
-then installed the USB OTG Helper app, doesn't do anything either, says it didn't found any external to mount.
-rebooted the Note with the hard drive plugged in, nothing happened too.
-possible power supply problem, where the device didn't have enough energy to power an external device?
The guys above probably have the P605 model, the Snapdragon one, and formatted their drive to something other than NTFS, something that I can't afford to do lol. Yeah, the processor can be relevant too, because the Snapdragon Note 4 can detect and use a 512gb SD card (not microSD), whereas the Exynos version is limited to 64gb only, if I remember correctly.
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Hi,
I am not able to connect note 8.0 to an external HDD (ED) through micro-usb OTG. I think I may need a Micro USB Host OTG Cable with USB power. I just want to know whether anyone has tried it for note 8.0 and does it reads NTFS ? I think my HDD is in NTFS format and I don't want to change it to FAT 32. (Actually I don't know how to do it) Any ideas ? Any help is really appreciated
Regards,
Pushkar
See here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42127190
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Paragon exFAT, NTFS & HFS+ will allow you to access your NTFS drive without having to format it to FAT32 so you do n ot lose your data. It's Free.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5wYXJhZ29uLm1vdW50ZXIiXQ..
Root required ?
p107r0 said:
See here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42127190
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The application says root is required...I am not able to figure out whether the external HDD (1 TB WD) is not working because the note 8.0 is not supplying it enough power or because it is not able to read the file system (NTFS).
Should i simply root my device & install the application or buy a OTG cable with external power port and then see whether it's a power issue ?. The problem is usb otg with external power is not available in this country (India) and amazon doesn't ships this particular product to India
Thanx a ton for all the help..really appreciate
Regards,
Pushkar
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The application says root is required...I am not able to figure out whether the external HDD (1 TB WD) is not working because the note 8.0 is not supplying it enough power or because it is not able to read the file system (NTFS).
Should i simply root my device & install the application or buy a OTG cable with external power port and then see whether the external HDD works irrespective of the file system? The problem is that usb otg with external power is not available in this country (India) and amazon doesn't ships this particular product to India
Thanx a ton for all the help..really appreciate
Regards,
Pushkar
I found That the Note 8.0 is not able to power external Hard Drives if they receive Thier power via Usb. A Powered Drive is fine. I use a Powered Usb hub to read my WD My Passport 1TB,which is also NTFS. My device is rooted and I have the paragon app installed.
pushkarsingh said:
The application says root is required...I am not able to figure out whether the external HDD (1 TB WD) is not working because the note 8.0 is not supplying it enough power or because it is not able to read the file system (NTFS).
Should i simply root my device & install the application or buy a OTG cable with external power port and then see whether the external HDD works irrespective of the file system? The problem is that usb otg with external power is not available in this country (India) and amazon doesn't ships this particular product to India
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FaeMinx said:
I found That the Note 8.0 is not able to power external Hard Drives if they receive Thier power via Usb. A Powered Drive is fine. I use a Powered Usb hub to read my WD My Passport 1TB,which is also NTFS. My device is rooted and I have the paragon app installed.
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IMO all may depend on power necessary to run the drive - my HDD was running ok with no external power.
So first I'd suggest rooting + ntfs app, and only if it does not work looking for powered Usb otg cable.
In the worst case you can do it yourself - in all Usb cables two external wires are for 5V power supply (same as provided by standard chargers), so it's just a matter of finding which is +/- and bit of soldiering
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Has anyone got NTFS mounting to work, specifically from an OTG adapter and external hard drive? I see an old thread about NTFS mount, but the search function is broken on XDA (when clicking on a search result, it just takes you to the front forums page, not the actual thread you clicked on), so I can't read it.
I tried Paragon NTFS+, which works with my hard drive drive & OTG adapter when using my LG G2, but on my Note it fails to mount. Paragon doesn't give an error message, it just tries to mount for a few seconds then does nothing. I also tried NTFS Mounter, which crashes when trying to mount.
I ended up using Wireless File Transfer Pro to transfer a large file because MTP is broken on my laptop with all devices. I've tried everything under the sun to fix MTP, but it's just broken until I reimage this machine.
FWIW, I'm using CleanROM 1.5.
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I tried Paragon NTFS+, which works with my hard drive drive & OTG adapter when using my LG G2, but on my Note it fails to mount. Paragon doesn't give an error message, it just tries to mount for a few seconds then does nothing. I also tried NTFS Mounter, which crashes when trying to mount.
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There are a couple NTFS Mount apps on the Play Store, none of them are working as of yet though.
When trying to mount using ntfs-3g and fuse.ko by hand, ntfs-3g stops with some sort of permission error.
My guess is it doesn't work with SELinux on Enforcing yet.
meks007 said:
There are a couple NTFS Mount apps on the Play Store, none of them are working as of yet though.
When trying to mount using ntfs-3g and fuse.ko by hand, ntfs-3g stops with some sort of permission error.
My guess is it doesn't work with SELinux on Enforcing yet.
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USB Plugin for total commander works.. It's a paid app but it works... Only thing though, you need to Total Commander as the File manager. It will also copy a file, temporarily, to the tablet. But it does read the NTFS 1.5Tb drive I plug in....
Ext HDD + OTG + NTFS
If you want your SM-P600 to mount and read NTFS formatted Hard drives you will nee to install the kernel shown here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2615959
After you do that you can install Paragon or USB OTG helper,the hard drive should be mounted and your tablet should be able to show the files on it if you use ES file explorer
qwestmogul1970 said:
If you want your SM-P600 to mount and read NTFS formatted Hard drives you will nee to install the kernel shown here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2615959
After you do that you can install Paragon or USB OTG helper,the hard drive should be mounted and your tablet should be able to show the files on it if you use ES file explorer
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Anything for sm-p605?
I researched for ways to make 10.1 14 read any external HD with NTFS format thru OTG.
Found a couple of ways, tried and it still show me empty folder.
Tried both Stickmount and [root]Ntfs Mounter and both doesn't work. It tried both of them with my 3 HDD (256 GB SSD, 1TB and 2TB WD Passport).
I was hoping to connect it without having to reformat any of the disk to ExFAT or FAT32.
Is there any method that's working yet
Really appreciate the help. TIA.
jinda628 said:
I researched for ways to make 10.1 14 read any external HD with NTFS format thru OTG.
Found a couple of ways, tried and it still show me empty folder.
Tried both Stickmount and [root]Ntfs Mounter and both doesn't work. It tried both of them with my 3 HDD (256 GB SSD, 1TB and 2TB WD Passport).
I was hoping to connect it without having to reformat any of the disk to ExFAT or FAT32.
Is there any method that's working yet
Really appreciate the help. TIA.
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Hi,
There is only one working solution as I know.
You have to install TotalCommander and then also the relate USB plug-in.
The only limit is that for NTFS is read-only.
For all the other programs you find on the store for OTG management, are not working because of the restrictions made by SELinux in enforcing mode.
To solve this, you have to find a working custom kernel that sets SELinux in Permissive mode. But as far as I know there is nothing for sm-p605.
joe666it said:
Hi,
There is only one working solution as I know.
You have to install TotalCommander and then also the relate USB plug-in.
The only limit is that for NTFS is read-only.
For all the other programs you find on the store for OTG management, are not working because of the restrictions made by SELinux in enforcing mode.
To solve this, you have to find a working custom kernel that sets SELinux in Permissive mode. But as far as I know there is nothing for sm-p605.
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Thanks for the response. So that's why everything that I'm trying just tells me its mounted but doesnt show me anything.
I was hoping to use it as OTG storage so read-only seems pointless at this moment.
I guess we wait right Thanks again sir!
jinda628 said:
Thanks for the response. So that's why everything that I'm trying just tells me its mounted but doesnt show me anything.
I was hoping to use it as OTG storage so read-only seems pointless at this moment.
I guess we wait right Thanks again sir!
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AFAIK, bindroid kernel is coming with NTFS support, limited to SM-P600 and SM-P601.
Since about two days there's a new version of Stickmount, which will during the first run download additional stuff to enhance compatibility. I would suspect an Ntfs driver.
without ntfs drivers in kernel, you cannot read ntfs format...
Iam considering buying an external 1 terabyte or more hard drive to keep my files so I can use my tab without a laptop
But I don't know if it will support that kind of storage via usb otg
Pls help if anyone tried
One other question is this will drain tab battery or what
Thanks
salahfathi said:
Iam considering buying an external 1 terabyte or more hard drive to keep my files so I can use my tab without a laptop
But I don't know if it will support that kind of storage via usb otg
Pls help if anyone tried
One other question is this will drain tab battery or what
Thanks
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I can use my WD USB HDD mounted via OTG and formatted NTFS using paragon app to mount (root required). This is tested with my SkyHigh kernel.
I don't know if device natively supports it with stock kernel, but should be able to mount at least fat formatted USB HDD without root and visible with Samsung file manager.
Not real sure about the battery, but would obviously use qite a bit. I haven't tested to quantify the "bit".
salahfathi said:
Iam considering buying an external 1 terabyte or more hard drive to keep my files so I can use my tab without a laptop
But I don't know if it will support that kind of storage via usb otg
Pls help if anyone tried
One other question is this will drain tab battery or what
Thanks
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I have a pair of 2 TB Seagate Backup Plus drives that I use with my tablet. I formatted them as exFAT on a Windows computer and they automount on the tablet when connected. The tablet does not provide enough power to spin the drive. I use a USB Y cable to supply extra power from another power supply.
PeteAlleman said:
I have a pair of 2 TB Seagate Backup Plus drives that I use with my tablet. I formatted them as exFAT on a Windows computer and they automount on the tablet when connected. The tablet does not provide enough power to spin the drive. I use a USB Y cable to supply extra power from another power supply.
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How do u do that can u show me a picture pls
UpInTheAir said:
I can use my WD USB HDD mounted via OTG and formatted NTFS using paragon app to mount (root required). This is tested with my SkyHigh kernel.
I don't know if device natively supports it with stock kernel, but should be able to mount at least fat formatted USB HDD without root and visible with Samsung file manager.
Not real sure about the battery, but would obviously use qite a bit. I haven't tested to quantify the "bit".
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Could ANYONE please confirm that ?
If it's true it means that a fix is possible via system files.
THANK YOU A LOT
Hi.
Android does not support NTFS supposedly, but you can install apps that allow android to read an NTFS file system.
I have an powered otg lead, and it can read fat32 external hdd with no problems, it`s just ntfs i am having problems with.
There are a few apps on Google Play.
Can anybody recommend an good app, I am rooted but my brother in law`s 10.5" is not, so an app that works without rooting will be great.
Thanks
John.
Tinderbox (UK) said:
Hi.
Android does not support NTFS supposedly, but you can install apps that allow android to read an NTFS file system.
I have an powered otg lead, and it can read fat32 external hdd with no problems, it`s just ntfs i am having problems with.
There are a few apps on Google Play.
Can anybody recommend an good app, I am rooted but my brother in law`s 10.5" is not, so an app that works without rooting will be great.
Thanks
John.
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My tab can read flashdisk with NTFS file system , but can't remove everyting from tab to flashdisk , it only can remove file from flashdisk to tab, i used es explorer to manage file , it can read flashdisk with NTFS without root
I am on stock kitkat v4.4.2 , I just formatted an usbflash to ntfs and copied an couple of small video files and pluged it into my 10.5" , And i just get an "blank sd unsupported file system" message.
John.
kojirhhyuga said:
My tab can read flashdisk with NTFS file system , but can't remove everyting from tab to flashdisk , it only can remove file from flashdisk to tab, i used es explorer to manage file , it can read flashdisk with NTFS without root
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Tinderbox (UK) said:
I am on stock kitkat v4.4.2 , I just formatted an usbflash to ntfs and copied an couple of small video files and pluged it into my 10.5" , And i just get an "blank sd unsupported file system" message.
John.
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I'm on stock 5.0.2 no root same 10,5" t805 . May be you must upgrade to lolipop or if your brother won't to upgrade , the choice is must be root the tab, or try again to format your flashdisk to NTFS and then pluged again
I have Root and my brother-in-law is on lollipop, this is really for my brother-in-law, so lollipop is compatible with NTFS? , according to google it does not.
Thanks
John.
Tinderbox (UK) said:
I have Root and my brother-in-law is on lollipop, this is really for my brother-in-law, so lollipop is compatible with NTFS? , according to google it does not.
Thanks
John.
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Yes it's compatible , try it
You can consider to use this one:
http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-RAVP...TVHC81D7&dpSrc=sims&dpST=_AC_UL160_SR160,160_
My brother-in-law will be happy to know this, less messing about.
Thanks
John.
kojirhhyuga said:
Yes it's compatible , try it
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My brother-in-law tried his 2TB WD USB Drive and it is not detected on his T800, but if he plugs in an Usb-Flash-Stick the stock file explorer automatically opens and shows the files straight away.
My brother-in-law does not even know hot to find out what files system his usb 2tb hdd is, but i think it must be ntfs.
John.
kojirhhyuga said:
Yes it's compatible , try it
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Tinderbox (UK) said:
My brother-in-law tried his 2TB WD USB Drive and it is not detected on his T800, but if he plugs in an Usb-Flash-Stick the stock file explorer automatically opens and shows the files straight away.
My brother-in-law does not even know hot to find out what files system his usb 2tb hdd is, but i think it must be ntfs.
John.
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Usb drive must ntfs because fat32 can't proses file above 4gb, you need usb Otg with additional power because the power from tab s not enough to proses 2tb usb drive
kojirhhyuga said:
Usb drive must ntfs because fat32 can't proses file above 4gb, you need usb Otg with additional power because the power from tab s not enough to proses 2tb usb drive
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I have an powered otg cable, hope he had the power connected right, I am still waiting for confirmation that lollipop supports ntfs, I tried it on kit kat but an message on the notification bar said blank sd.
Thanks
John
Ok, A member on the NBR forum, told me how to read NTFS without root for free "Get total commander and the USB stick plug in and you can read and write NTFS without needing root"
John.
Have you tried with ES file explorer?
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