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Does anyone else experience eyestrain with devices that have the HD Super Amoled screen?
I notice after about 10 - 15 mins of use, I get dizzy and my eyes hurt like they are being crossed or something when using the galaxy s3 or galaxy note, my old galaxy s2 skyrocket doesn't bother me though....
I've tried to turn the brightness down all the way, using the device at different distance to no avail.
Any possible solutions to remedy this? or am I going to have to sell my new S3 like I did my galaxy note? :/
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I've actually noticed a decrease in eye strain coming from an LCD screen on my atrix. LCD screens are constantly flashing, and the screen on my galaxy s3 is super clear for me almost no eye strain. Its probably personal preference though.
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jefferson9 said:
I've actually noticed a decrease in eye strain coming from an LCD screen on my atrix. LCD screens are constantly flashing, and the screen on my galaxy s3 is super clear for me almost no eye strain. Its probably personal preference though.
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I've actually experienced the opposite as my first android device was an atrix....
I think it may have something to do with the 1200 x 800 resolution on such a small screen because If I turn up the resolution on my PC HD monitor to something like 1600 x 1200 for example, my eyes start to hurt.
I was actually going to post a new great until I saw this. I came from retina displays and my eyes are sore after I look at the screen for over 10 minutes on my GS3. Kinda concerning!! Might have to switch back to an apple product. I was getting use to droid too. :-/
its because of the screen size/pixels. Your eyes still needs to be adjusted to the new screen lol... obv
Yes!
I got vertigo/migraines about a month after getting my S3. I had a number of medical tests to see what was causing it - but even after new glasses I've narrowed it down to the S3 display being too strong for my eyes. I'm going to sell mine and get a replacement with a duller screen.
Try this...
Try changing the Screen Mode to 'Natural' or 'Movie". Helped a bit.
I also immidiately noticed eye fatique after getting Galaxy s3, particularly in my right eye. It started only getting worse, and coincidently only when I was using Galaxy. Other lcd devices such as older 3gs never bothered me at all. Surpisingly majority of reviews call the display stunning quality, but its pretty dim, practically unusable outside and colors are unnaturally oversaturated, all of which didnt bother me that much as long as my eyes wouldnt hurt so much. I started reading more about specs in Super amoled technology, but nothing pointed out to potensial issues, than I googled galaxy s3 refresh rate, and the first video from the search result comparing s3 to the iphone, provided a major clue. The poor quality camera was picking up horrible flickering from galaxy, but iphone screen didnt flicker at all. It instantly brought me back to old CRT days, and I also remember getting dizzy from such displays running at low refresh rates of 60mhz. Back than bumping up refresh rate to 75mhz conciderably dicreased eye strain. I took the video to the store, sales person was suprised that I was returning such popular product, but its been a day since my exchange for another brand and eye strain is gone. The issue maybe overlooked as it affects low percentage of people, but if you have sensitive vision, than you'd be much better off with non hd amoled technology
Could it be the brightness?
I'm sure your not holding it against your nose while watchin you tube, but maybe its the overall brightness of the screen thats getting to you? I use a powersaver app that has a black screen filter that dims it out a good little bit, maybe something like that could help, or a matte finish screen protector...the anti glare ones I think.
Use the "Screen Filter" for use at nights.
Set brightness to 0, and enable filter. I set mine at 48.6% and 36.9% (created two widgets with these percentages) and use either as needed.
Set your brightness lower. It's the brightness of your screen. I have the same problem before turning down the screen
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Keep phone at safe distance from face. Try a dark theme or inverted apps, or both they will most likely reduce eyestrain as well as save battery.
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Seems ok to me with brightness anywhere from dimmest to 50%.
hmm, can't say I've experienced any strain.
The cm10 rom is extremely bright too, at half, I started getting headaches but on stock, I can state at near brightest all day.
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Hi all,
There are a lot of users who feel uncomfortable with AMOLED displays (not all of them, for example sgs2 is not affected). They can struggle with head ache and eye strain. You can google "galaxy s3 eye strain" for example or watch how AMOLED blinks through photo/video camera (there are tons of youtube videos). This effect apperars only when screen brightness is not at maximum level. The nature of that is the mechanism used for brightness control. Instead of forcing the pixels to glow at less brightness they force them to blink very fast. The faster pixel blinks - the brighter it seems to the user. The downside of this is that the whole screen blinks as an old CRT monitor which causes this negative effect.
I found an app which could help us to workaround this issue. I filed a feature request. So if you are interested you can add yourself to wathcher list and post a comment here - https://bitbucket.org/VitoCassisi/lux/issue/38/lux-auto-brightness-feature-request-for
This should not take a lot of time since you can authorise there with your google/facebook/twitter or other account.
Wow! I switched the screen to "natural", the problem with oversaturared, too rich colors was solved. I had to keep the brightness low so color pictures aren't too bright, but this made reading text on white backround unpleasant. Of course now I have to find new brightness levels (what brightness levels do you guys use for day and night?)
PS: Samsung has been doing similar tricks with the colors in their TVs. Some series 6 TVs made the picture look like it was from a heat sensor in dynsmic mode, and this was their default mode.
PPS: Mobile screens suck. LCDs have washed out blacks which strains the eyes, and AMOLEDs don't care about correct colors which makes you duzzy.
S3 screen flickers!
MetQuota said:
I also immidiately noticed eye fatique after getting Galaxy s3, particularly in my right eye. It started only getting worse, and coincidently only when I was using Galaxy. Other lcd devices such as older 3gs never bothered me at all. Surpisingly majority of reviews call the display stunning quality, but its pretty dim, practically unusable outside and colors are unnaturally oversaturated, all of which didnt bother me that much as long as my eyes wouldnt hurt so much. I started reading more about specs in Super amoled technology, but nothing pointed out to potensial issues, than I googled galaxy s3 refresh rate, and the first video from the search result comparing s3 to the iphone, provided a major clue. The poor quality camera was picking up horrible flickering from galaxy, but iphone screen didnt flicker at all. It instantly brought me back to old CRT days, and I also remember getting dizzy from such displays running at low refresh rates of 60mhz. Back than bumping up refresh rate to 75mhz conciderably dicreased eye strain. I took the video to the store, sales person was suprised that I was returning such popular product, but its been a day since my exchange for another brand and eye strain is gone. The issue maybe overlooked as it affects low percentage of people, but if you have sensitive vision, than you'd be much better off with non hd amoled technology
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You are absolutely right. S3 screen flickers a lot. Try to move it quickly in front of your eyes, move your eyest when looking at it, or move your finger fast in front of the screen. I certainly do notice it.
What other phones have better displays? Sony? HTC?
I have a solution to resolve galaxy S3 scren flickering: set brightness to max in settings, install an app like "Screen Filter" (one with black-white rectangle) and decrease brightness there, in the app.
Flickering gone!
yarmobile said:
You are absolutely right. S3 screen flickers a lot. Try to move it quickly in front of your eyes, move your eyest when looking at it, or move your finger fast in front of the screen. I certainly do notice it.
What other phones have better displays? Sony? HTC?
I have a solution to resolve galaxy S3 scren flickering: set brightness to max in settings, install an app like "Screen Filter" (one with black-white rectangle) and decrease brightness there, in the app.
Flickering gone!
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Most of phone LCD screens are not affected by flicker. Even some amoled displays too. For example old HTC Legend and galaxy S2.
Galaxy note 3, 4, Galaxy s4, 5 are also affected. I strongly recommend you not to buy any new samsung phones equipped with AMOLED screens.
Now with this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vito.lux software you can get rid of screen flickering issue. Automatic brightness adjust will also work.
I have a nexus 7 2013 and I'm thinking of selling it because the screen is too small for me. I'm looking at buying a gpad but there are two things holding me back:
The battery life - I regularly get 10+ hours of screen time with 2 days total usage on my nexus 7, does the gpad have a similar battery life?
The screen brightness - I keep hearing that the screen brightness on this tablet is pretty low, what do you guys think?
Thanks for your help.
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I have a nexus 7 2013 and I'm thinking of selling it because the screen is too small for me. I'm looking at buying a gpad but there are two things holding me back:
The battery life - I regularly get 10+ hours of screen time with 2 days total usage on my nexus 7, does the gpad have a similar battery life?
The screen brightness - I keep hearing that the screen brightness on this tablet is pretty low, what do you guys think?
Thanks for your help.
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I also have a Nexus 7 2013 and just purchased the G Pad. To be fair the G Pad is a very good device but so far the Nexus 7 is by far the better device. Screen is much better on Nexus. Its more of an auto brightness problem on the G Pad, if you manually turn it up its bright, but the auto function does not keep it bright enough. I have a yellow area at the top of the G Pad and Its making me contimplate exchanging it, or returning it altogether, because of the many stories of faulty screens with this thing. If you search further into the Ipad Air forums you will see that they have terrible yellowing issues with there screens and guess who makes those screens for Apple. Some Ipads have an entire side that is yellow.
I have only charged mine twice, but for me the Nexus 7 wins hands down for battery. I have both devices set up exactly the same, except I share the 7 with the wife who has an account on it. I get an easy 6 hours screen time over several days and still have 20% remaining. The G pad I have gotten 5 hours out of it and its been below 10%.
Hope this helps.
If you need the screen size, get the gpad. The fact the bezel is small, fools most people into thinking they are the same size.
To your questions:
Screen is bright enough, auto brightness lacks, but since you are in xda you can find a rom that allows you to correct it.
As for the battery, they have similar mahs, so any difference comes down to screen size/brightness and android version. Maybe the Google edition is closer to your needs?
Not exactly relevant,but have a look at this review: it might address your concerns about the screen
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/LG-G-Pad-8.3-vs-Apple-iPad-mini-2-with-Retina-Display_id3527
Ps:I had the old nexus 7, I have spent some time with the new one, and I own the lg gpad. Gpad is in a different category.
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G Pad 8.3 looks like its display brightness is turned down all the way.
I have the G Pad, and trust me when I say this, it is bright enough. Outdoor use & direct sunlight will be a problem, but indoors - Max brightness is almost always too much
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I have the G Pad, and trust me when I say this, it is bright enough. Outdoor use & direct sunlight will be a problem, but indoors - Max brightness is almost always too much
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I completely agree. On my Nexus 4 the brightness is never more than 60% for me. The same for my Note 10.1. At night, in bed I often put the brightness to minimum, and it still feels to much. With the G Pad... Wow, I love the minimum. On sunny days, i do max out the brightness, but I find it perfectly good enough.
I have to say, i absolutely love the auto brightness on the G Pad. You can configure the auto brightness.... Fantastic.
Indoors I run mine at 30% brightness in daylight and 20% with room lights after dark. I have tested outdoors, but never actually used it seriously outdoors, but it seems to cope. I accept that it could be brighter, but it is OK.
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Indoors I run mine at 30% brightness in daylight and 20% with room lights after dark. I have tested outdoors, but never actually used it seriously outdoors, but it seems to cope. I accept that it could be brighter, but it is OK.
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Same here - I run at 35% indoors and down to 20% in the dark, and oftentimes the latter is too bright for me. Also, I have a matte screen protector which dims it a smidge further... No problems for me.
Mark
note sure if you already bought the tablet but here is a comparision between my g pad and tab 3 8.0. Tab 3 is on the bottom and you can see the brightness is higher on it but images look washed out. If you see the g pad, you can see a bit dimmer but the picture is amazing. The tab is only 800 by 1280 but I just wanted to show you the brightness at 100%.
Impromark said:
Same here - I run at 35% indoors and down to 20% in the dark, and oftentimes the latter is too bright for me. Also, I have a matte screen protector which dims it a smidge further... No problems for me.
Mark
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Indoors I run mine at 30% brightness in daylight and 20% with room lights after dark. I have tested outdoors, but never actually used it seriously outdoors, but it seems to cope. I accept that it could be brighter, but it is OK.
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NJ_RAMS_FAN said:
note sure if you already bought the tablet but here is a comparision between my g pad and tab 3 8.0. Tab 3 is on the bottom and you can see the brightness is higher on it but images look washed out. If you see the g pad, you can see a bit dimmer but the picture is amazing. The tab is only 800 by 1280 but I just wanted to show you the brightness at 100%.
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I had mine before I had to RMA and I was shocked it was really bright for me. From all the complaints people get I thought it would be really dim but it was just fine. I never use my electronics outside but yeah direct sunlight will probably greatly reduce visibility. Anyway I found it was pretty bright for me.
Brightness is very low. Bad screen. How to fix?
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Brightness is very low. Bad screen. How to fix?
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You have it set to 100% brightness and it still isn't bright enough? Better get another tablet.
I had one for a few days. I really like some aspects of the pad, but I found it very difficult to watch a video with dark scenes even with the brightness at 100%. I got a 2013 N7 at the same time. It won out, but it is my fifth google device so I'm biased. I did not think the google edition gpad worth the extra cost. I was hoping it would be closer to iPad mini retina. Yeah, I really considered throwing an apple in the basket.
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I had one for a few days. I really like some aspects of the pad, but I found it very difficult to watch a video with dark scenes even with the brightness at 100%. I got a 2013 N7 at the same time. It won out, but it is my fifth google device so I'm biased. I did not think the google edition gpad worth the extra cost. I was hoping it would be closer to iPad mini retina. Yeah, I really considered throwing an apple in the basket.
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My wife has a mini retina. IMO, it's really boring compared to my G Pad. And crippled in many ways.
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My wife has a mini retina. IMO, it's really boring compared to my G Pad. And crippled in many ways.
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I can see the "boring" part although I was looking forward to eventually trying a jailbreak. Hubby's ALL Apple, sons are mixed, and I'm PC/Android. They will let me do anything to their Androids, but no one will let me "play" with Iphones or Ipads. :'(
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ritchea said:
I had one for a few days. I really like some aspects of the pad, but I found it very difficult to watch a video with dark scenes even with the brightness at 100%. I got a 2013 N7 at the same time. It won out, but it is my fifth google device so I'm biased. I did not think the google edition gpad worth the extra cost. I was hoping it would be closer to iPad mini retina. Yeah, I really considered throwing an apple in the basket.
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yea, it is definitely dim compared to others. I like both the n7 and this one but reason I like lg pad is the 8.3" screen. If nexus comes out with something like that soon, I would buy it..
I have a samsung galaxy s3 and while it's not that bright ive never had any major issues and generally happy at home and out and about such as commute. I note that it has a brightness rating of 224 whereas the lg g pad is rated at 289 cd/m2. Wondering if this is a good comparison when thinking about buying g pad and brightness. This makes the g pad brighter?
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I have a samsung galaxy s3 and while it's not that bright ive never had any major issues and generally happy at home and out and about such as commute. I note that it has a brightness rating of 224 whereas the lg g pad is rated at 289 cd/m2. Wondering if this is a good comparison when thinking about buying g pad and brightness. This makes the g pad brighter?
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Max brightness is difficult to assess on OLED screens like the one in your Galaxy S3 because they dynamically adapt the total output of the panel in order to stay within a power limit (like plasmas do, too), so that means that depending on the way the screen of the GS3 was measured it could produce whites much brighter than 224 cd/m² if the screen isn't entirely white, whereas LCDs max output don't vary depending on what content is displayed.
After about 2 months, I gave up on the G Pad due to its lack of brightness and clarity while viewing movies. Nexus 7 2013 blew it away. People will say there is no difference, but if you do actual side by side you will see what you are missing.
The screen is fine for webpages, but running it at 100% brightness to watch a movie, especially dark or night scenes is not worth the price given the alternatives.
Yeah it does have lower screen brightness but I use screen filter so often on my Atrix 2 to further darken the screen it's not a huge deal for me that this screen can't get super bright it would be nice of course for better visibility outside in the sun but I rarely if ever use my tablet like that but if your looking for that high level of brightness stay away very good tablet otherwise especially for the 284 I paid. The actual screen quality is very good the included HD time lapse videos in the gallery are breath taking to look at and really show off the tablets screen quality. There my go to videos when I show the tablet off to people. Its a shame a lot of the most common source of video streaming I use are so limited in quality on android that they don't do the screen justice but I can get around most of those limitations using a web browser.
Crunchyroll's android app is limited to there lowest quality sd video setting which looks ok on my Atrix 2 but really bad here. I can get around it by using a web browser to login in view the videos in Gorious 1080P and they look really nice on this tablet I actually don't mind watching anime on this over my 1080i Sony Trinitron CRT not as good blacks and overall picture quality but still it's good enough which compared to that t.v is quite a compliment. Also anime looks really sharp on this due to the high ppi and I can view it from real close. There are some compromises but it also does things better and I'm willing To make them before I really didn't like watching on any other screen feeling I was missing out in screen quality.
The YouTube app is also limited to 720p but again I use a browser to view to get around this when quality is a priority not as convenient and with plenty of high resolution tablets out even some above 1080p including Google's own nexus 10 you think Google would allow 1080p streaming if not 4K streaming through the app. Netflix app also seems to be locked at a lower bitrate and non HD and since its silver light no way to view through browser. But I think being only 4.2.2 limits me. Hopefully when the 4.4 updates comes out I can access higher video quality through the app this screen could really benefit from the all bitrate netflix could offer Super HD would look fantastic on this screen. I'm not sure if they offer that on 4.3+ android devices or if it's limited to there regular 1080p bitrate or 720p on android with even Google crippling there own YouTube app I wouldn't be surprised which is a shame.
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Hello everyone,
after 4 returns of LG G Pads, all of which had screen issues (adhesive yellow lines, light bleeding, 7 light spots of doom at the bottom) I've decided to up my game and move to 10.1 as something futureproof and fun to own...
However most issues pop AFTER we get our hands on the tablet. As such, I would like to ask the owners. Hand over heart - what are the + and - and what are the most common issues (if any) reported with this tablet?
Thinking of buying it from Pcworld today.
Thank you
evak2979 said:
Hello everyone,
after 4 returns of LG G Pads, all of which had screen issues (adhesive yellow lines, light bleeding, 7 light spots of doom at the bottom) I've decided to up my game and move to 10.1 as something futureproof and fun to own...
However most issues pop AFTER we get our hands on the tablet. As such, I would like to ask the owners. Hand over heart - what are the + and - and what are the most common issues (if any) reported with this tablet?
Thinking of buying it from Pcworld today.
Thank you
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There were some early assembly issues (S Pen loose in silo, speaker grills uneven or loose, BT connectivity issues) that seem to have abated because after the wave of early builds they haven't been mentioned lately. If you're a lag-freak the N10.1-14 does suffer from the occasional transition stutter or milliseconds of lag opening and closing apps. I'd peg it as lag free 95% of the time. We're getting Magazine UX/4.4 soon and the Tab/Pro's shown on video from their CES launch looked much smoother than the N10.1-14. Do you have better than 20/20 vision? A couple of people who do (or apparently do) have noticed some display anomalies when looking at certain content; most likely because of the N10.1-14's RGBW PenTile display. I can't replicate it but have only mere mortal vision.
The top reasons to get the N10.1-14 are:
Display. I think it's gorgeous no matter what anyone else says and I compare it against my N3 everyday.
Form factor. Amazingly light, slim, and small for a 10" tablet.
Doing stuff. S Pen, S Note, Multi View, Action Memo, Scrap Book and the like are huge productivity benefits and once you start using them they are hard to live without. I'm on my second round of "Notes" with the N3 and N10.1-14 replacing my N2 and N10.1-12.
The top reasons not to buy it:
You're a pure consumption user. All of the extra features of the N10.1-14 use a lot of resources and if you're not going to use them will just be annoying. You pay a lot of money for the N10.1-14 because of those features (and premium h/w that's needed to power them) and to not use them will leave you frustrated.
You're a lag-freak. As it stands there's some stuttering, hesitation, and lag about 5% of the time. It's most prominent when there's a bunch of background processing going on. Some of the proprietary apps can throw up a spinning wheel while they're processing. For example you can move content between two apps open in Multi View. It's not always instant. You can also use Air Command to copy full screens of content from various sources to be saved in your Scrap Book. It too isn't instant.
You have super human vision or live-and-die by a "perfect" display. Some people here (a half dozen?) are really freaking out about some anomalies they've detected in the display. Interestingly, other than a single reviewer who actually has 20/15 vision mentioning he noticed "something different" about the display no one outside XDA has mentioned what some folks here have found/described. The difference between a RGB display and the N10.1-14's PenTile display is that because of an indirect sub-pixel arrangement, in certain situations like specific saturated colors on specific backgrounds, there can be detectable imperfections on certain content. You can read more here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2615750. Since you're leaving the G Pad over its display do yourself (and the forum ) a favor and make sure your display expectations are met before you buy a N10.1-14.
Assuming you're not buying an LTE version, the Wi-Fi and 3G versions take a looong time to charge; as long as seven hours to get to 100%.
Happy shopping.
BarryH_GEG said:
There were some early assembly issues (S Pen loose in silo, speaker grills uneven or loose, BT connectivity issues) that seem to have abated because after the wave of early builds they haven't been mentioned lately. If you're a lag-freak the N10.1-14 does suffer from the occasional transition stutter or milliseconds of lag opening and closing apps. I'd peg it as lag free 95% of the time. We're getting Magazine UX/4.4 soon and the Tab/Pro's shown on video from their CES launch looked much smoother than the N10.1-14. Do you have better than 20/20 vision? A couple of people who do (or apparently do) have noticed some display anomalies when looking at certain content; most likely because of the N10.1-14's RGBW PenTile display. I can't replicate it but have only mere mortal vision.
The top reasons to get the N10.1-14 are:
Display. I think it's gorgeous no matter what anyone else says and I compare it against my N3 everyday.
Form factor. Amazingly light, slim, and small for a 10" tablet.
Doing stuff. S Pen, S Note, Multi View, Action Memo, Scrap Book and the like are huge productivity benefits and once you start using them they are hard to live without. I'm on my second round of "Notes" with the N3 and N10.1-14 replacing my N2 and N10.1-12.
The top reasons not to buy it:
You're a pure consumption user. All of the extra features of the N10.1-14 use a lot of resources and if you're not going to use them will just be annoying. You pay a lot of money for the N10.1-14 because of those features (and premium h/w that's needed to power them) and to not use them will leave you frustrated.
You're a lag-freak. As it stands there's some stuttering, hesitation, and lag about 5% of the time. It's most prominent when there's a bunch of background processing going on. Some of the proprietary apps can throw up a spinning wheel while they're processing. For example you can move content between two apps open in Multi View. It's not always instant. You can also use Air Command to copy full screens of content from various sources to be saved in your Scrap Book. It too isn't instant.
You have super human vision or live-and-die by a "perfect" display. Some people here (a half dozen?) are really freaking out about some anomalies they've detected in the display. Interestingly, other than a single reviewer who actually has 20/15 vision mentioning he noticed "something different" about the display no one outside XDA has mentioned what some folks here have found/described. The difference between a RGB display and the N10.1-14's PenTile display is that because of an indirect sub-pixel arrangement, in certain situations like specific saturated colors on specific backgrounds, there can be detectable imperfections on certain content. You can read more here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2615750. Since you're leaving the G Pad over its display do yourself (and the forum ) a favor and make sure your display expectations are met before you buy a N10.1-14.
Assuming you're not buying an LTE version, the Wi-Fi and 3G versions take a looong time to charge; as long as seven hours to get to 100%.
Happy shopping.
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I have owned (and loved) an S4 before it got stolen and I moved to my Z1.
I never had an issue with Samsung, but I do remember the occasional lag/stutter. I think it's to be used to.
The main reasons why I opted for the 10.1 are:
- The stylus + multi window. I do a lot of reading/writing and I often carry a paperbook around when I read a book to keep notes. But I am not the most tidy of persons, and I thought that operating a 10.1 in multiwindow instead would allow me to keep notes as I kindled through content.
- The specs appear future proof and XDA appears to have a good community for customing Samsungs. With cleanroms and what not, I am hoping to be able to keep the functionality of the Stylus along with a more lag free experience.
- Yes, I enjoy my movies and online magazine content, so the screen is important to me.
I will order one and hope to see it arrive by tomorrow. I can always return it within 7 days, but I doubt I will (Light bleed or faulty screens however are an immediate no go for me ! )
AS a 10.1 owner, do you think my reasons are valid? Thanks for your feedback
evak2979 said:
I have owned (and loved) an S4 before it got stolen and I moved to my Z1.
I never had an issue with Samsung, but I do remember the occasional lag/stutter. I think it's to be used to.
The main reasons why I opted for the 10.1 are:
- The stylus + multi window. I do a lot of reading/writing and I often carry a paperbook around when I read a book to keep notes. But I am not the most tidy of persons, and I thought that operating a 10.1 in multiwindow instead would allow me to keep notes as I kindled through content.
- The specs appear future proof and XDA appears to have a good community for customing Samsungs. With cleanroms and what not, I am hoping to be able to keep the functionality of the Stylus along with a more lag free experience.
- Yes, I enjoy my movies and online magazine content, so the screen is important to me.
I will order one and hope to see it arrive by tomorrow. I can always return it within 7 days, but I doubt I will (Light bleed or faulty screens however are an immediate no go for me ! )
AS a 10.1 owner, do you think my reasons are valid? Thanks for your feedback
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Up until a few days ago everyone here almost universally loved the display. A couple of people started ragging on it just recently. I wouldn't have even mentioned the display as anything but "outstanding" if not for those few people's recent comments. I've tried to replicate each of the scenarios they are bothered by and just can't. One of them admitted to 20/15 vision so s/he may be seeing imperfections I don't. People that have bought the N10.1-14 on my recommendation (with the display playing a large part) have been universally pleased.
As for lag and such my i7 gaming desktop with 12GB of RAM and 10K RPM drives lags occasionally. I shrug while others will blow away and rebuild Windows over it. To each their own.
Based on what you've described you'll be blown away by the N10.1-14's productivity features. But give them some time before drawing a conclusion. Being developed by Asian's for Western users the functionality isn't always intuitive or well presented. It is logical though and the more you use it the more comfortable you become with it.
I have a 3G version that I bought in the U.S. as an import and paid an un-Godly price for it. Almost twice the $389 some people that are complaining about certain aspects of the N10.1-14 paid during a recent refurb promotion that ran. I'm happy but it's hard to anticipate what makes others happy. After the past couple of days of pretty brutal discussion on lag and the display (which I don't personally agree with) I've learned not to project my expectations and what satisfies them on to others.
Based on your list I think you'll be happy though. And even happier when we get moved to 4.4/M-UX which is imminent because leaks have started to appear.
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Up until a few days ago everyone here almost universally loved the display. A couple of people started ragging on it just recently. I wouldn't have even mentioned the display as anything but "outstanding" if not for those few people's recent comments. I've tried to replicate each of the scenarios they are bothered by and just can't. One of them admitted to 20/15 vision so s/he may be seeing imperfections I don't. People that have bought the N10.1-14 on my recommendation (with the display playing a large part) have been universally pleased.
As for lag and such my i7 gaming desktop with 12GB of RAM and 10K RPM drives lags occasionally. I shrug while others will blow away and rebuild Windows over it. To each their own.
Based on what you've described you'll be blown away by the N10.1-14's productivity features. But give them some time before drawing a conclusion. Being developed by Asian's for Western users the functionality isn't always intuitive or well presented. It is logical though and the more you use it the more comfortable you become with it.
I have a 3G version that I bought in the U.S. as an import and paid an un-Godly price for it. Almost twice the $389 some people that are complaining about certain aspects of the N10.1-14 paid during a recent refurb promotion that ran. I'm happy but it's hard to anticipate what makes others happy. After the past couple of days of pretty brutal discussion on lag and the display (which I don't personally agree with) I've learned not to project my expectations and what satisfies them on to others.
Based on your list I think you'll be happy though. And even happier when we get moved to 4.4/M-UX which is imminent because leaks have started to appear.
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Just came home from pc world and saw the note...
It has yellow discoloration at the edges, and on the sides, visible on the whites..Just like the lg g pads i was forced to return...
I am terrified my unit tomorrow will suffer from the same. Can I be that unlucky?
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Or your eye's are extremely sensitive to light? My Note 10.1 2014 is my 4th tablet to own. Out of the one's I've owned, only my original Nexus 7 had a slight light bleed on one side. I've not experienced such an issue with my Note 10.1 2014.
I also do not notice the PenTile grid that some people keep pointing out on the Note 10.1 2014. I've seen the PenTile grid a couple times on my Galaxy S3 when fooling with the brightness and depending on the lighting, but I've yet to see it on my Note 10.1 2014.
As Barry has mentioned, there are a lot of different factors that could be an issue for some folks. If you have the brightness up, you're sitting under a bright light, you have better than average eye sight, there are many reasons you could see an anomaly or part of the device such as the PenTile grid.
Generally the picture is really crisp and clear unless I load a website that is using some low resolution images on the site. Those appear fuzzy and stand out compared to the crisp text.
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No,no, I had a friend with me. We were both mocking Ipads and how they had a known yellow tint issue on left hand side.
Then I walked over to the note 10.1 2014 (mine is arriving tomorrow by delivery), and against whites there was an obvious yellow discoloration on the bottom right corner, as if from leftover adhesive or what not. I've not read ANYTHING like that for the notes, but I just finished returning the 4th lg g pad over it (if you go over to the lg g pad section of xda, under general and QA/Screen quality, you will see what I speak of..)
At this point all I can do is pray haha
Good luck with your note. I have had mine for a few months now and have yet to experience any sort of issues with the screen. Demo units at stores I think are more likely to have issues because of the amount of wear and abuse they get rom random people/kids fondling them.
So far this tablet is totally forgotten by Samsung.
I'm still at mj6 for 3 months, the tablet lags , the lock screen takes 3 secs to wake up and Samsung does not even care.
My advice stay away from note 10.1 2014.
Why care for a product that's already forgotten by the manufacturer?
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Lympe said:
So far this tablet is totally forgotten by Samsung.
I'm still at mj6 for 3 months, the tablet lags , the lock screen takes 3 secs to wake up and Samsung does not even care.
My advice stay away from note 10.1 2014.
Why care for a product that's already forgotten by the manufacturer?
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I've hard of occasional lag but I doubt a 3-4 month old tab has been forgotten
Well here is my first review.
A beautiful tablet, but a bit on the heavy side. Unfortunately I am returning this one as well - severe light bleeding on the bottom and right side in landscape mode. at least 8-9 spots illuminating the screen.
I think God's telling me to drop the tablet idea altogether..
I might try once more with the note though, it really does look beautiful
Tablets as a form factor
evak2979 said:
Well here is my first review.
A beautiful tablet, but a bit on the heavy side. Unfortunately I am returning this one as well - severe light bleeding on the bottom and right side in landscape mode. at least 8-9 spots illuminating the screen.
I think God's telling me to drop the tablet idea altogether..
I might try once more with the note though, it really does look beautiful
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This tablet is fast and smooth. I have noticed light bleed on all tablets that I have owned (nexus 7, nexus 7 2013, Asus Tranformer Ifinity TF-701, Samsung Note 10.1 2014.
I am happy with this new tablet, since some selfish bastard broke into my house and stole my TF-701. This tablet by far has the best resolution, and the best display of all I have owned. The light bleed is minimal compared to the nexus 7s.
Maybe I got a good one, or I have just gotten used to light bleed on larger formats.
I would recommend this tablet, as long as you are comfortable with Touchwiz, and Samsung's way of doing things.
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This tablet is fast and smooth. I have noticed light bleed on all tablets that I have owned (nexus 7, nexus 7 2013, Asus Tranformer Ifinity TF-701, Samsung Note 10.1 2014.
I am happy with this new tablet, since some selfish bastard broke into my house and stole my TF-701. This tablet by far has the best resolution, and the best display of all I have owned. The light bleed is minimal compared to the nexus 7s.
Maybe I got a good one, or I have just gotten used to light bleed on larger formats.
I would recommend this tablet, as long as you are comfortable with Touchwiz, and Samsung's way of doing things.
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It looks wonderful but mine had severe light bleeding, 6 distinct spots at left side, 4 at bottom, nothing symmetrical about them. Getting one from John lewis tomorrow hoping I will be lucky ☺
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It looks wonderful but mine had severe light bleeding, 6 distinct spots at left side, 4 at bottom, nothing symmetrical about them. Getting one from John lewis tomorrow hoping I will be lucky ☺
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New unit light bleed as well. 5 spots at bottom (which i didn't really mind, small ones), big one at top though...
Let's see how the next one does. I'll be getting a note, for sure. But I want to get bang for my buck Thank God for John Lewis return service, so let's see...
P.S. Whomever stated that Ipad air is superior to this device is a moron like no other...
I just picked one up about 2 hours ago from Brandsmart. With the display at 100% on a black background it has 6 at the bottom. It looks like small spot lights shinning up. It's charging now but if I notice it with normal use I will return it. I also have the tab 3 10.1 I got for Xmas. It had a few bad spots so I swapped it out. Now I'm good to go. Some are just worse then others. Kind of like women
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I just picked one up about 2 hours ago from Brandsmart. With the display at 100% on a black background it has 6 at the bottom. It looks like small spot lights shinning up. It's charging now but if I notice it with normal use I will return it. I also have the tab 3 10.1 I got for Xmas. It had a few bad spots so I swapped it out. Now I'm good to go. Some are just worse then others. Kind of like women
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Look at this :/
I am going to try a couple more times and then give up altogether.
P.S., this is the second one., compared to my new N 7 2013. First was FAR worse. Seeing this comparison I think I'll pass on the excuse that lightbleeding is part of the LCD technology
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Look at this :/
I am going to try a couple more times and then give up altogether.
P.S., this is the second one., compared to my new N 7 2013. First was FAR worse. Seeing this comparison I think I'll pass on the excuse that lightbleeding is part of the LCD technology
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Whatever note you get you will get light bleed, but don't see the problem if it isn't noticeable in normal use, I never sit in dark room with the brightness full with a black screen, do u?
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reubenskelly1992 said:
Whatever note you get you will get light bleed, but don't see the problem if it isn't noticeable in normal use, I never sit in dark room with the brightness full with a black screen, do u?
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It was visible watching a movie full brightness in a lit room, and very noticeable at 40% brightness in a dark room. For 450 pounds I definitely have a problem with it especially since my travelling budget device (199 pounds) out performs with same style of panel...
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It was visible watching a movie full brightness in a lit room, and very noticeable at 40% brightness in a dark room. For 450 pounds I definitely have a problem with it especially since my travelling budget device (199 pounds) out performs with same style of panel...
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Mine is fine. At 100% brightness on a black background it shows a little on some angles but watching movies or viewing pics it's not bleeding into the screen.
Yeah yours looked bad.
Good luck
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Mine is fine. At 100% brightness on a black background it shows a little on some angles but watching movies or viewing pics it's not bleeding into the screen.
Yeah yours looked bad.
Good luck
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Thanks mate I am glad you got a good unit....3 pieces inc tomorrow. 3 pieces. One has to be good !!!
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Thanks mate I am glad you got a good unit....3 pieces inc tomorrow. 3 pieces. One has to be good !!!
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Here's mine at 100%
I have a visible light strip at the top of the display... what should I do? I say to myself I don't care but it annoys me because I keep noticing it.
Here pictures, please check them out:
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/...xWVXBiUGhRTG9MR19qTTVlejJkQ3RYdUk?ltmpl=drive
That's light bleed
do you have it too? should I send it back or do all lg g4 have this?
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Weird... heres the drive folder:
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/...xWVXBiUGhRTG9MR19qTTVlejJkQ3RYdUk?ltmpl=drive
Do you guys have this too?
ruzkay said:
Weird... heres the drive folder:
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/...xWVXBiUGhRTG9MR19qTTVlejJkQ3RYdUk?ltmpl=drive
Do you guys have this too?
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That's light bleed - light seeping from the backlight into the edges of the display. Happens when the display is compressed/bent during installation into the phone. Nothing you can do about it but get the phone exchanged if it bothers you that much. However, if you exchange it, it's the luck of the draw - you might get a better one or a much worse one.
Unfortunately, all LCD displays are prone to this, as manufacturers would have to reject something like 50% of them otherwise - I had to go through SIX brand-new 27" Dell monitors before I found two that I could live with - and they're still far from perfect.
I had to exchange my iPad Mini twice to get a good display, and my Nexus 9 three times. It's totally random. Got lucky with my G4 that has a perfect screen (though I had to exchange it, too, as the first one had dust stuck between the front glass and the display panel).
Manufacturers just have really low "acceptable quality" standards to maximize profits/units sold, as many people will never notice those issues.
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That's light bleed - light seeping from the backlight into the edges of the display. Happens when the display is compressed/bent during installation into the phone. Nothing you can do about it but get the phone exchanged if it bothers you that much. However, if you exchange it, it's the luck of the draw - you might get a better one or a much worse one.
Unfortunately, all LCD displays are prone to this, as manufacturers would have to reject something like 50% of them otherwise - I had to go through SIX brand-new 27" Dell monitors before I found two that I could live with - and they're still far from perfect.
I had to exchange my iPad Mini twice to get a good display, and my Nexus 9 three times. It's totally random. Got lucky with my G4 that has a perfect screen (though I had to exchange it, too, as the first one had dust stuck between the front glass and the display panel).
Manufacturers just have really low "acceptable quality" standards to maximize profits/units sold, as many people will never notice those issues.
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I see thanks, I had some light bleed (I knew what it is didn't remember the english word LOL) on my N4 too but nowhere near this and it didn't seem like a solid strip more random...
Sent it back... hope I got luck with the next one, and hope Amazon is quick my current phones battery is pretty much dead...
Hi there,
I recently got a Pixel 2 XL and Iove the phone Minus:
1) When I bend my phone at an angle I see a "blue tint" and when I hold it back straight, I don't see it. is it normal?
I just contacted support and they are sending a replacement but I want to make sure I know what to check when a new phone arrives.
2) How do I check for Screen Burn In issue? Any ways to reproduce it? (Should I use the phone in order to encounter this issue?)
3) Any other issues I should be concerned about when I'm checking out the phone?
Thanks,
Neo
search the forum, all your questions have been discussed ad nauseum.
How's about enjoy the device and quit looking for/creating issues? If you're buying something with the mindset that there is going to be an issue with it you're going to create one.
Burn in is not an issue. Google has already made changes to help alleviate burn in as well. They dim the nav bar buttons a couple seconds after use and they've updated plenty of Google apps to using a white nav bar with dark grey buttons. Google is also trying to get popular 3rd party apps to switch to a white nav bar with dark buttons. So don't worry about it. I've had plenty of amoled displays for years each. The only time burn in was ever noticeable, was when I downloaded a display checker app and looked for it. Otherwise, I would have never known it was there and never did see it during normal operation.
Edit: As for the blue tint. Yes it's there when you view the screen at an angle. I honestly forgot about it, until someone on Android Police brought it up a few days ago. It's a non-issue. Most displays have some degree of discoloration at an angle. This is a little more so than others, but how often do you use your phone at an angle and wish you had perfect colors. Pretty much never. If you're really looking at your phone, you're going to be looking right at it.
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Edit: As for the blue tint. Yes it's there when you view the screen at an angle. I honestly forgot about it, until someone on Android Police brought it up a few days ago. It's a non-issue. Most displays have some degree of discoloration at an angle. This is a little more so than others, but how often do you use your phone at an angle and wish you had perfect colors. Pretty much never. If you're really looking at your phone, you're going to be looking right at it.
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Agreed. When I first got the device, I noticed the blue tint right away when tilting the phone, but after a few days I stopped really noticing. Yes, we really shouldn't have this problem to this degree on such an expensive phone, but it's also not like the issue is present when looking at the phone head-on.
Every device has its own issues, and if you go looking for problems, you'll find them! It's up to you to decide if the problems outweigh the good things about the phone.
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Burn in is not an issue. Google has already made changes to help alleviate burn in as well. They dim the nav bar buttons a couple seconds after use and they've updated plenty of Google apps to using a white nav bar with dark grey buttons. Google is also trying to get popular 3rd party apps to switch to a white nav bar with dark buttons. So don't worry about it. I've had plenty of amoled displays for years each. The only time burn in was ever noticeable, was when I downloaded a display checker app and looked for it. Otherwise, I would have never known it was there and never did see it during normal operation.
Edit: As for the blue tint. Yes it's there when you view the screen at an angle. I honestly forgot about it, until someone on Android Police brought it up a few days ago. It's a non-issue. Most displays have some degree of discoloration at an angle. This is a little more so than others, but how often do you use your phone at an angle and wish you had perfect colors. Pretty much never. If you're really looking at your phone, you're going to be looking right at it.
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I don't know why they bothered dimming the navigation buttons. That won't really do anything for burn in. Burn in is caused by uneven aging of pixels. Since that bar is almost always black most of those pixels aren't being used so they are aging much slower than the rest of the screen. The best way to reduce the chances of burn in is to not have the navigation bar background black. The 8.1 update actually changes the background color to an almost white color but only in a few places such as Settings and GMail. Doing that system wide is the only thing that would REALLY reduce burn in.
However, in the almost 6 weeks that I've had my Pixel 2 XL I haven't seen any burn in yet.
As for the blue tint, I stopped noticing it as soon as I stopped looking for it.
I picked up a Pixel 2 XL and noticed the amount of blue tint is highly dependent on the brightness setting on the screen. On this phone, the blue tint is obvious at 30-45 degrees or more depending on the brightness. Yes, it is worse than the Note 8 and Moto Z Force I compared it to, but as others have said, you have to be looking for it or constantly tilting your phone.
The screen is quite good when viewed straight on or even at a slight angle. It still is a bit annoying that a nearly $900 device isn't up to par with Samsung models. For people that have Verizon and want stock Android this phone is the best option.