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Currently have an ATV2 and was asked by a friend for something similar so they can have XBMC along with the Video addons to watch Icefilms etc..
Well the ATV2 is a bit outdated at this point, on top of that the price tag to get one is quite steep. I've come across the Fire TV and it seems to do the trick and it even has a remote which would involve less tinkering to get working etc.
My question is, how well is the Fire TV & XBMC setup? They care only really about the Video addons to run IceFilms, ProjectFreeTV etc.. to watch Movies/Shows.
I'm in Canada and as far as I understand Netflix etc wouldn't work since the device technically isnt supported here yet. But again, this would be mainly used for XBMC.
I know there is some other devices out there that can run the XBMC platform well, but they require then further hacking of making a universal remote to work, or hooking up a keyboard or mouse. I am looking for the cleanest solution.
DHeffernan said:
Currently have an ATV2 and was asked by a friend for something similar so they can have XBMC along with the Video addons to watch Icefilms etc..
Well the ATV2 is a bit outdated at this point, on top of that the price tag to get one is quite steep. I've come across the Fire TV and it seems to do the trick and it even has a remote which would involve less tinkering to get working etc.
My question is, how well is the Fire TV & XBMC setup? They care only really about the Video addons to run IceFilms, ProjectFreeTV etc.. to watch Movies/Shows.
I know there is some other devices out there that can run the XBMC platform well, but they require then further hacking of making a universal remote to work, or hooking up a keyboard or mouse. I am looking for the cleanest solution.
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It'll work fine for that stuff, especially when you root it. It's definitely the best $/performance XBMC box possible.
lolwatpear said:
It'll work fine for that stuff, especially when you root it. It's definitely the best $/performance XBMC box possible.
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What benefit does rooting give the device?
To my understaning it doesn't need to be rooted to run XBMC? But if so, what benefits does rooting give it?
DHeffernan said:
What benefit does rooting give the device?
To my understaning it doesn't need to be rooted to run XBMC? But if so, what benefits does rooting give it?
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Rooting will allow you to boot straight to XBMC and use it as a launcher:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2790392
I think there might be a way without root, but I didn't bother with that method. Otherwise, you can launch XBMC using an existing app's icon on the default launcher to easily get to it:
http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?titl...C_from_an_Existing_App_on_the_FTV_Home_Screen
The problem with not doing one of these things is that in order to launch XBMC, you would need to go to the settings menu, then to the installed applications section and finally launch it. It's way too may steps to do this constantly.
lolwatpear said:
Rooting will allow you to boot straight to XBMC and use it a launcher:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2790392
I think there might be a way without root, but I didn't bother with that method. Otherwise, you can launch XBMC using an existing app's icon on the default launcher to easily get to it:
http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?titl...C_from_an_Existing_App_on_the_FTV_Home_Screen
The problem with not doing one of these things is that in order to launch XBMC, you would need to go to the settings menu, then to the installed applications section and finally launch it. It's way too may steps to do this constantly.
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Ahh I see what you mean now, basically the second part is how my ATV2 is. I have to go to the XBMC icon to launch it.
Yah the rooting would be benefical on the FireTV then as I am trying to make this as user friendly as possible so launching straight into XBMC would probably be their preferred choice anyways.
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I'm in Canada and as far as I understand Netflix etc wouldn't work since the device technically isnt supported here yet.
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I'm in Canada and have Netflix, Pandora, etc all working great with VPN. Also, I sold both my Apple TV 2s and replaced them with Fire TVs. I am not looking back. The Apple TVs were dated and showed their age. The Fire TVs with XBMC are incredibly fast. The only thing Fire TVs are missing is AirPlay, but you can download AirPlay receiver apps on the Fire TV that will allow you to beam content easily. Here's an idea: Sell your Apple TV to your friend for $150-$175 (perfectly reasonable price for 2nd Gen), then use that money to upgrade yourself to an Amazon Fire TV for $99 while pocketing the difference.
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Currently have an ATV2 and was asked by a friend for something similar so they can have XBMC along with the Video addons to watch Icefilms etc..
Well the ATV2 is a bit outdated at this point, on top of that the price tag to get one is quite steep. I've come across the Fire TV and it seems to do the trick and it even has a remote which would involve less tinkering to get working etc.
My question is, how well is the Fire TV & XBMC setup? They care only really about the Video addons to run IceFilms, ProjectFreeTV etc.. to watch Movies/Shows.
I'm in Canada and as far as I understand Netflix etc wouldn't work since the device technically isnt supported here yet. But again, this would be mainly used for XBMC.
I know there is some other devices out there that can run the XBMC platform well, but they require then further hacking of making a universal remote to work, or hooking up a keyboard or mouse. I am looking for the cleanest solution.
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There is no comparison the hardware in the FireTV is far superior to the ATV2 not to mention you can run tons of android apps on it. The menu and fan art load times are much faster, it feels like a polished product instead of something that could reboot at any minute. XBMC has been much more stable on the FireTV. I sold my ATV2 on ebay for $230 and didn't look back. I suggest you do the same before the bottom falls out of the market for them.
Well I ordered up a FireTV last evening off ebay $130 shipped, cheapest I could find for us Canadians. You guys have a better source?
But I think you guys might have me convinced on selling my ATV2 and switching over to the FireTV, I don't use anything else on the AppleTV besides XBMC and sometimes the Radio app from Apple..
My ATV2 is still running 5.3 so its jailbroken but untethered. I know some version require the tethered jailbreak, so I think mine would bump up in value even more?
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Well I ordered up a FireTV last evening off ebay $130 shipped, cheapest I could find for us Canadians. You guys have a better source?
But I think you guys might have me convinced on selling my ATV2 and switching over to the FireTV, I don't use anything else on the AppleTV besides XBMC and sometimes the Radio app from Apple..
My ATV2 is still running 5.3 so its jailbroken but untethered. I know some version require the tethered jailbreak, so I think mine would bump up in value even more?
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You are correct you will usually get more money for an untethered jail break. It took a little work to get the FireTV setup the way I wanted it but I am very happy I made the switch. With the money I made from selling the AppleTV I am thinking about getting a second one.
XBMC on FireTV is simply amazing.
I don't have any experience with those streaming add-ons though. My XBMC plays local media only (on smb).
Newcron said:
XBMC on FireTV is simply amazing.
I don't have any experience with those streaming add-ons though. My XBMC plays local media only (on smb).
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Same here. I love XBMC on Fire TV. Works great. I've tried streaming add-ons with no issues, although I admittedly haven't watch an entire movie via a streaming add-on. But all-in-all, I'm very happy with the purchase and would buy another if I could justify it with the wife.
No brainer!
XBMC on FIRE TV dominates. ATV2 is a weak dinosaur in comparison.
Hope that helps.
As someone that ran a full house, multiple front end, centralized backend database, XBMC setup on mini-PCs for years before switching to Rokus and a FireTV, I'd call XBMC on FireTV a huge win. Ultimately, you are not going to beat the power and flexibility of a mini-PC running something like OpenElec (an embedded XBMC install), but FireTV gets you access to all the great Android apps and at a price you'd never be able to match with a mini-PC with similar performance. Plus, XBMC on FireTV is easier - it just works.
would love a work up on on best feature add-ons for XBMC , the amount of options and add-ons is overwhelming .
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You are correct you will usually get more money for an untethered jail break. It took a little work to get the FireTV setup the way I wanted it but I am very happy I made the switch. With the money I made from selling the AppleTV I am thinking about getting a second one.
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great call on the upgrade. hola android app also works with the stock netflix app to access US netflix from canada with no charge.
Where you guys order your FireTV's from?
Anything cheaper than $130 off ebay?
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Where you guys order your FireTV's from?
Anything cheaper than $130 off ebay?
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Sure. Amazon.com. $99. Ones on Ebay are probably rooted.
jmerrilljr2 said:
Sure. Amazon.com. $99. Ones on Ebay are probably rooted.
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In Canada.. FireTV is not officialy sold here. So I can't order it off amazon.
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Where you guys order your FireTV's from?
Anything cheaper than $130 off ebay?
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If $130 is all-in price, then it isn't bad, cheapest would be around $120. If you think it in a different way, if FTV was to be launched in Canada, its price would be something like $110 CAD & with tax would come around $125 CAD (don't know your exact location so tax can differ).
If you don't wanna cross border, I would say ebay is your best bet as local Kijiji would most probably be costlier.
Hi! I would like to know some of your thoughts on Amazon's Android market. Is it dead? Is anyone planning to buy the new Fire HD? What are your thoughts. Will beloved independent developers step up to get ROM's working on the Fire Phone and the coming Fire HD tablets? I personally do not have a Fire Phone. I have only had the original kindle fire 1 and original kindle fire 2, but I am planning on buying the new Fire HD 7". Anyone else excited about the new device line? It seems the original Kindle Fire was the biggest success. Thanks! Looking forward to your honest answers.
actually I'm interested to get this phone.. but it's not officially available on my country, so I have to make another decision
Grand_Goblin said:
actually I'm interested to get this phone.. but it's not officially available on my country, so I have to make another decision
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Ah. That's too bad
I think Amazon Appstore is certainly NOT dying. Otherwise, it's expanding and now with Amazon's introduction of Fire phone it will continue to do so. Amazon Appstore, together with Google, is the leader in this field.
Hello guys. Just wanted to ask if anyone knows exactly what is going on in this video.
Is this a custom ROM running Android Lollipop?? Sounds too good to be true.
Seeing is believing I guess.
Awesome if true!! Hope coming soon to our Amazon fire tv's Can't wait.
Amazon Fire Stick Running Game Boy Advance Emulator
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsYhaZki7Ag&list=UU_0CVCfC_3iuHqmyClu59Uw
YouTube Channel name:
ETA PRIME
https://www.youtube.com/user/Mretaprime
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Hello guys. Just wanted to ask if anyone knows exactly what is going on in this video.
Is this a custom ROM running Android Lollipop?? Sounds too good to be true.
Seeing is believing I guess.
Awesome if true!! Hope coming soon to our Amazon fire tv's Can't wait.
Amazon Fire Stick Running Game Boy Advance Emulator
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsYhaZki7Ag&list=UU_0CVCfC_3iuHqmyClu59Uw
YouTube Channel name:
ETA PRIME
https://www.youtube.com/user/Mretaprime
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As he says right at the beginning "this is the adt-1 google developers". The titles are all jacked up. That is not the Fire TV.
rbox said:
As he says right at the beginning "this is the adt-1 google developers". The titles are all jacked up. That is not the Fire TV.
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I don't know what "adt-1 google developers" is. I'll have to look that up.
What I do know is that the title of his video( Actually all his videos), have the words "Amazon Fire Stick" on them.
It's kinda misleading and had to ask someone that knows about this kinda stuff.
Why would he title almost all his videos like this
He even made an unboxing of new Fire Tv stick... Bummer.
Looks cool though. Would me nice to someday run android 5.0 on Fire TV like this video.
We haven't had no new root available For Fire TV since first root method was discovered to work on FireTV.
Trying not to lose hope and this video lifted my spirits if even for just a second... actually, Split-second:laugh:
Thanks for checking in on this.
Hope someday we can install rbox Fire TV Mods and a whole lot more soon.
Need to hook up my new Fire TV Stick and this would have been a cool mod:fingers-crossed:
oscargo29 said:
Hello guys. Just wanted to ask if anyone knows exactly what is going on in this video.
Is this a custom ROM running Android Lollipop?? Sounds too good to be true.
Seeing is believing I guess.
Awesome if true!! Hope coming soon to our Amazon fire tv's Can't wait.
Amazon Fire Stick Running Game Boy Advance Emulator
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsYhaZki7Ag&list=UU_0CVCfC_3iuHqmyClu59Uw
YouTube Channel name:
ETA PRIME
https://www.youtube.com/user/Mretaprime
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I don't think that's an Amazon device. Rather it's
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_TV
http://www.cnx-software.com/2014/06/30/adt-1-googles-android-tv-developers-kit-details/
twqwctf said:
I don't think that's an Amazon device. Rather it's
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_TV
http://www.cnx-software.com/2014/06/30/adt-1-googles-android-tv-developers-kit-details/
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Thank you for info.
Understand now what this ADT-1 is.
Still don't understand why title of his video is Amazon Fire Stick.
Google Play version does worth with Amazon game controller, I just needed to pull out the Logitech K400r keyboard/mouse dongle out.
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Amazon pulled Modern Combat 5 from their app store, not sure why, can't find any info on it. So if anyone still has it installed, can you make the apk of it available to me? The google play version doesn't seem to work with the game controller on the AFTV.
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nyder said:
Amazon pulled Modern Combat 5 from their app store, not sure why, can't find any info on it. So if anyone still has it installed, can you make the apk of it available to me? The google play version doesn't seem to work with the game controller on the AFTV.
thanks
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Modern Combat 5 is not free so I think you are asking for something that is not allowed on here.
porkenhimer said:
Modern Combat 5 is not free so I think you are asking for something that is not allowed on here.
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It actually was free on the Amazon App store. Was on it for at least 3-4 months, since I got my AFTV in Aug I think, till recently. Which is why I paid for it on Google Play, thinking it was going to work with the gaming controller, since the one I had from Amazon App Store did. This is why I'm asking if anyone has the apk for it. I had it installed till recently when I did a fresh install for the HD I got for my AFTV.
It would be nice to be able to actually play the game I purchased.
nyder said:
It actually was free on the Amazon App store. Was on it for at least 3-4 months, since I got my AFTV in Aug I think, till recently. Which is why I paid for it on Google Play, thinking it was going to work with the gaming controller, since the one I had from Amazon App Store did. This is why I'm asking if anyone has the apk for it. I had it installed till recently when I did a fresh install for the HD I got for my AFTV.
It would be nice to be able to actually play the game I purchased.
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It was not free, cause I just bought it a bout two weeks ago after getting fiinished with Shadowgun.
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As we speak Modern Combat 3 is $4.99 on amazon and Modern Combat 4 is $6.99, so why would they make Modern Combat 5 free? Makes no sense. It wasn't free when i purchased it around two weeks ago.
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It was not free, cause I just bought it a bout two weeks ago after getting fiinished with Shadowgun.
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As we speak Modern Combat 3 is $4.99 on amazon and Modern Combat 4 is $6.99, so why would they make Modern Combat 5 free? Makes no sense. It wasn't free when i purchased it around two weeks ago.
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You seem to be lost here.
Go to your Amazon account, look up You Apps & Devices and try to find Modern Combat 5. You will NOT. As I stated, it got pulled from the Amazon App Store. It didn't cost on the Amazon App Store, it was free. It was there for at least 3 months that I know of. That being said, I did NOT have a problem buying it from the google play store, I am more then willing to share a screenshot of what apps I have purchased from the google play store, with it being the last one I bought, on 1-13-2015.
The problem is, the MC5 from Google Play store doesn't work with the Amazon Game Controller. The one that was on Amazon App Store did. This is why I am asking if anyone has the apk for it, so I can play my purchased content with my game controller.
porkenhimer said:
It was not free, cause I just bought it a bout two weeks ago after getting fiinished with Shadowgun.
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As we speak Modern Combat 3 is $4.99 on amazon and Modern Combat 4 is $6.99, so why would they make Modern Combat 5 free? Makes no sense. It wasn't free when i purchased it around two weeks ago.
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How much is Amazon selling Modern Combat 5 for? Can you find it? You claimed you bought it 2 weeks ago, so why isn't it listed?
Oh, you don't listen? Ya, I see that. reread my posts when you're sober.
Anyways, I figured out the problem I'm having with my PAID google store version, I needed to pull my bluetooth keyboard dongle out. For various reasons it take precedence over the gamepad. I didn't have the keyboard when I played it last.
I'm confused? They all cost money.. Maybe try using Google and see if you can find it?
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nyder said:
How much is Amazon selling Modern Combat 5 for? Can you find it? You claimed you bought it 2 weeks ago, so why isn't it listed?
Oh, you don't listen? Ya, I see that. reread my posts when you're sober.
Anyways, I figured out the problem I'm having with my PAID google store version, I needed to pull my bluetooth keyboard dongle out. For various reasons it take precedence over the gamepad. I didn't have the keyboard when I played it last.
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I never said they were selling it at the moment, I said when they were selling it that it was never free. Its not an amazon at the moment, but that could be a glitch, cause I have seen other apps disappear too then return days later.
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I never said they were selling it at the moment, I said when they were selling it that it was never free. Its not an amazon at the moment, but that could be a glitch, cause I have seen other apps disappear too then return days later.
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Well, I have no idea anymore. I am positive that it was showing up in the games section on the AFTV, for free, for at least 3 months, like Aug-Nov of 2014. Which I thought was weird at the time because MC4 cost money. I thought MC5 maybe made money from in app purchases. I didn't play the game too far, just enough to know that I did like it would spend time on it at some point.
And I thought the google play version wasn't working with my gamepad, but that isn't the case, so everything works out (cept for having to unplug my keyboard).
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Well, I have no idea anymore. I am positive that it was showing up in the games section on the AFTV, for free, for at least 3 months, like Aug-Nov of 2014. Which I thought was weird at the time because MC4 cost money. I thought MC5 maybe made money from in app purchases. I didn't play the game too far, just enough to know that I did like it would spend time on it at some point.
And I thought the google play version wasn't working with my gamepad, but that isn't the case, so everything works out (cept for having to unplug my keyboard).
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How did you get the Play Store version to work? Do you have Google Services installed?
I've installed it with AGK Fire, but the game wouldn't even start due to the lack of Googleness.
jdeiro said:
How did you get the Play Store version to work? Do you have Google Services installed?
I've installed it with AGK Fire, but the game wouldn't even start due to the lack of Googleness.
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http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-install-the-google-play-store-on-the-amazon-fire-tv/
That will help you get the play store working.
Thanks, but I can't root, my firmware is unrootable.
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Thanks, but I can't root, my firmware is unrootable.
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Then you need to pester amazon to allow the google services to be included in an update.
In regards to the Google Play version of Modern Combat 5 Blackout, it is currently being offered free on Google Play. I installed it on my Tab 3 8.0 only after seeing in the Play store while picking which apps I wanted to update. The game is playable on the Tab, obviously, but not on my Fire TV. As far as having Google Play services installed, I currently do, and my Fire is rooted. The game loads as it should, and I'm able to press a button on my Nyko Play Pad Pro to skip something in the very beginning of the game, but after that it doesn't respond anymore. I can't even do anything with the mouse except move the gun around.
Has anyone noticed that Amazons own game studio has very little support for Fire TV? Out of roughly eight titles they have released only one has made it to Fire TV ?? Curious?
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Has anyone noticed that Amazons own game studio has very little support for Fire TV? Out of roughly eight titles they have released only one has made it to Fire TV ? Curious?
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I knew they released Sev Zero for the FireTV, but I didn't know they released any other games for anything. I just looked it up and it appears they have released other games for Fire Tablet, Fire Phone, and iPhone/iPad. That is curious.
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I knew they released Sev Zero for the FireTV, but I didn't know they released any other games for anything. I just looked it up and it appears they have released other games for Fire Tablet, Fire Phone, and iPhone/iPad. That is curious.
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Yeah the bummer is they look good Why not port the games to Fire ? TV?