[Q] Maps stored on external SD...a no go:( - T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II

Hello Good People,
Sending out a Happy 2014 to the XDA family!
I am having nothing but issues with trying to store maps(data) on my external SD card- Samsung 64GB Class10.
I can run a few Navigation apps provided the maps are stored in the internal memory. When trying to store the maps on the external SD card the app will simple force close! Wasup with that!
I have since learned about this incredible bad bottleneck that Google did to our OEM Rom that doesn't allow for storing data on the external SD card. My device is rooted with stock v4.1.2
I have tried to switch the external memory with the internal memory using the app2sdNote2 script, but it just caused currently installed apps to act weird.
Any one have any success with storing map data on external SD card?
T.I.A.

Use foldermount from the play store. It does what your looking for.
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sabresfan said:
Use foldermount from the play store. It does what your looking for.
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Thanks sabresfan!
Will try this app again. I must not have had it set correctly the first time!

Just an update to future searches!
I have success with combining these two free Playstore apps Link2SD and Foldermount to store large data onto SD card instead of internal memory.
Everything is working wonderfully. This video really helped with the setup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHsHiXDgSy4

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[Q] Apps to SD Card?

So my tablet is getting pretty full(its an 8gb), and I want to move some of my apps to my 16gb sd card, but I dont know how, I tried the Apps2SD app, but it doesnt seem to work. Can anyone help me out?
No, none of the Froyo/Gingerbread utilities work with Honeycomb due to the different memory arrangement. Here is some more discussion:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1415472
Ugh okay, so I can only delete apps to make room for others?
You can back up your apps to .apks on your external sd card, using either ES File Manager or Astro. That makes it easy to delete them and later re-install them.
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Ugh okay, so I can only delete apps to make room for others?
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Its been discussed pretty heavily in other threads, (using search will find them) just moving the app won't do a whole lot for you since the data for the app is still stored in the internal memory. I created a internal to external memory swap found in the development section to help with this problem but using a 16gb external card won't be a whole lot of extra space (although it'll still be better than the 5.7gb of space that the internal memory has for storage).
While it wont help with apps, most often its the apps data that is a problem not the app itself so I use the app GL to SD from the market
https://market.android.com/details?...t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5zbGYuTGlzdGdsQXBwIl0.
You have to be rooted but I find it works great. Its designed to store game data for Gameloft games on your SD card instead of your internal memory since most of them take in the neighborhood of 800MB a piece (or more) but it works for seemingly anything.
So far it has also successfully worked for every game I have used it on including GTAIII, Sonic CD, and Galaxy on Fire 2 to name a few.
It also lets you specify custom mount points for those apps that store their data in a weird space.

Unable to move any apps to new SanDisk 64gb class 10 sdcard

I purchased new 64 GB SanDisk class 10 sdcard and inserted in my phone. My phone however will not move any apps to the card and none of the apps I have are able to move its data to the new card.
It seems that Samsung used an internal storage as "sdcard" and the true sdcard is called an "external sdcard" that most applications does not have access to / or is programmed accordingly. Which essentially renders the card useless.
Have anyone came across this problem?
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Yup, same problem here. Hopefully someone will find a way of working around that soon.
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Yup you said it, samsung made a stupid desicion wit that
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keinam.ty said:
I purchased new 64 GB SanDisk class 10 sdcard and inserted in my phone. My phone however will not move any apps to the card and none of the apps I have are able to move its data to the new card.
It seems that Samsung used an internal storage as "sdcard" and the true sdcard is called an "external sdcard" that most applications does not have access to / or is programmed accordingly. Which essentially renders the card useless.
Have anyone came across this problem?
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There's a thread that goes into great detail on this problem in the international gs3 section. It's actually Google who's coding this in now, but alot of manufacturers are using a workaround, but not samsung. The card is pretty much good for music, movies, and any large downloads you may want to transfer there. To my knowledge Cyanogenmod & possibly AOKP still work the way it should, but touchwiz based roms will not. There is an app somewhere on XDA that will allow you to store large data files for games to the sd, but again, I believe it's in the i9300 forum. I hope this will help you some.
Edit: check out xda tv on YouTube, and there's a recent video from the new girl Erica where she covers some type of work around for the gs3 I think?
Thanks, that almost sounds like it's better to root? Touch Wiz isn't that bad but I am not a fan of it. Samsung was nice to let us disable all bloatware but making the sd card useless is really idiotic. I almost want to say what's the point of the scared then?
I'll do ssome more research on this thanks.
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If the app has separate data downloads try this for me, move the data to the external sd card, delete data and app from the internal sd card. redownload app and see if it recognizes the data on the external card. I mad copies as back up of a few big meg data downloads on the external card. I did an odin recovery, when I downloaded the apps again they found the data on their own on the external card.
stevessvt said:
If the app has separate data downloads try this for me, move the data to the external sd card, delete data and app from the internal sd card. redownload app and see if it recognizes the data on the external card. I mad copies as back up of a few big meg data downloads on the external card. I did an odin recovery, when I downloaded the apps again they found the data on their own on the external card.
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An interesting thought, I can definitively move data to external card – I’ll try this tonight and report back. Thought even if this works it still isn’t a solution.
For example;
1. Many backup applications hardcode the SDCard’s location which in this case it always will be internal memory
2. Navigation data gets downloaded into internal memory
3. Google music gets downloaded into internal memory, I could not find any option to move it – its simply unavailable.
4. I don’t have to move all apps to the external card, but the few games/apps stored in the external card sounds like a good idea sine those are not essential for me (especially the once with lots of storage requirements).
5. Any podcasts / videos also won’t go to the external storage
6. Some applications lets you backup their settings like preferences RSS lists etc – all those also go to internal memory.
In my opinion the following must happen:
1. “All developers” must update their applications to accommodate for S3’s changed card location
2. Google must update its code and allow apps / data move to external card.
I’ll call t-mobile to see whatever they have to say about this.
I spoke to t-mobile and was told I can return the phone if I don't like it. Essentially the SD card is “useless” and according to T-Mobile’s rep only works with pictures and videos – the phone is sold as is. Apparently they know nothing about this and never heard of any plans for a fix.
They also gave me phone number to Samsung’s support which I’ll call tonight and report back.
I wonder how that works after the phone is rooted with custom ROM. Has anyone tried this? Please let me know if you did….
If your going to return it, simply use Odin to go back to factory fresh stock.
I think this is a push for more of us to use cloud storage which is cool but I like using physical sd card for storage..
I'm having to make do with my 16gb internal as games get bigger and eat up storage. My 64gb is almost useless if I had known this I would have gotten like a 32gb card and saved some cash.
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But don't return this phone. It's still legendary!
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I agree, this phone is FAN-FUKING-TRAGIC.. Best phone by far. Ummm, how do we use the cloud to store stuff though? And could we use it to move apps and free up space? Sorry if my questions are dumb to some, just not sure what the cloud is
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Did you try doing what I said?
The cloud is pretty much a usb stick u don't have to carry around with you. You can't store installed apps there but you can store anything else on it like apks to install later music, docs. Pretty much anything you would store on a usb.
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@ stevessvt Yes I have but it did not work - I am pretty sure I screwed something up 
I don’t think I will be returning this phone, there isn’t anything better on T-Mobile unfortunately and S3 has better specs then Latest Nexus. Now I think I will research about S3 rooting and whether it makes sense to root this phone and put custom ROM on it.
Thanks everyone!
This isn't Samsungs doing, it's how Google has made android from ics on. Other manufacturers that make their phones able to install apps on your external sd are using a workaround by modifying the code, but I've read that it's really not ideal? If your using titanium backup to keep your apps backed up then you need to run a backup. Then go into your internal sd & move the TB folder to your external sd. Go back into titanium backup & select preferences from the settings menu. There select backup folder location & hit the Detect button. Now your backups should go to external storage.
You can also go under settings in the stock Web browser & change your download location to external so that large roms download to external sd. If your using the new version of twrp for the Tmo gs3 that they released today, then you can check the box under backup that says backup to external. That will also save room on your internal storage.
Personally I prefer all of my apps on internal. They open faster & write data much faster to internal then to an sd card. I really only use my sd card for holding movies, backups, & large file downloads. As I stated in my previous post, AOKP & Cyanogenmod still can install apps to sd if that's what you prefer. I honestly think we should be able to choose for ourselves, but unfortunately I don't make the rules. If you look in the international section I read a thread somewhere that had an app that will let you store the large data files from games on your external storage. That's the only apps that really take up a significant amount of space. Music can take up a lot of space, but with Google play music keeping 20gb of music in the cloud for you, that shouldn't be much of an issue to those of us who are in good coverage areas. I hope this helped some of you to maximize your storage space.
Just a friendly advice...T-Mobile is the last place you want to go for any answers. The people who work there (most, not all) are complete stupid over the top freakin' idiots. They know nothing and often times just search their data base or google something for answers. Most 99.9% do not have any first hand knowledge of anything about phones. They just know the same $#!t you can read off the box....
Complete idiots..
Anyhow, just hang tight as I'm sure there will be work around this in the very near future. It's not a big deal at all.... just do what fellow member: stevessvt said...it works....
Good luck!
keinam.ty said:
I spoke to t-mobile and was told I can return the phone if I don't like it. Essentially the SD card is “useless” and according to T-Mobile’s rep only works with pictures and videos – the phone is sold as is. Apparently they know nothing about this and never heard of any plans for a fix.
They also gave me phone number to Samsung’s support which I’ll call tonight and report back.
I wonder how that works after the phone is rooted with custom ROM. Has anyone tried this? Please let me know if you did….
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I don't see how you can fill 16gb with just applications anytime soon
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es7241 said:
I don't see how you can fill 16gb with just applications anytime soon
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Games and some utilities apps, my iPhone was 32 gb after 6 months I had 3 gb left and only 1gb of music
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Let me first off apologize for getting a lil off topic with this question, however, I Just got the SGS3 (which by the way is the GREATEST PHONE EVER MADE!!! If God or Allah or Buda or whatever higher up, power that be owned a phone... It would be this one. LOL) OK, back on track now. So I'm coming from an HTC phone and I have a TON of bookmarks stored on my browser that I want to transfer over to my new phone. My question is, where can I find my browsers bookmarks using file explorer so that I can zip it up in a file to send to my phones browser? Or is there a better, easier way to do this??
Please help
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[Q] Is there anyway to put apps on your external SD???

Hello guys,
I was wondering if anyone has used app2sd or any others to convert your apps in your internal to external memory
when i tried using app2sd it will put it on my external yes but as soon as i run an application like a game it will re download it and put it onto my internal. Anyone else having this issue?
there is another solution:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2109112
This solution works to swap internal with external but for 64G SD cards people are having issues so I am re framing from doing this method.
don't bother with this; there is so much room in your internal memory, that its a waste of time and effort..you will never fill up your internal app space.
I have 300 apps installed, and still have almost 7 gigs free...
Hi try the rom toolbox from play store to install app on sd card.
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wase4711 said:
don't bother with this; there is so much room in your internal memory, that its a waste of time and effort..you will never fill up your internal app space.
I have 300 apps installed, and still have almost 7 gigs free...
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That's not entirely true. Some people play various games which seemingly chew through storage space for all the media bits and pieces. Look through some of the directory bind threads for examples.
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That's not entirely true. Some people play various games which seemingly chew through storage space for all the media bits and pieces. Look through some of the directory bind threads for examples.
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I totally agree. With my 16gb GN2 I find myself low on internal storage all the time. Yes you can install literally 100's of smaller apps but games such as NFS: Most Wanted, Nova 3, Spider Man and many others nearing 2 gigs each or more, it's hard to have more than a few games installed before having to un install just to try out a new game that you're interested in. If you find a good work-around let me know. I've found that App Mgr III doesn't work with our devices (and many others) and my ROM Toolbox Pro only gives you the option to install all apps to either your internal or external without the option to pick and choose which goes where on an app to app basis.
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I use Directory Bind myself with my 64bg card.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
I like this program because you select which apps you want to move to the sd card. It takes more work to use but once you get it setup it works flawlessly so far. I have like 25gb of games installed on my phone
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Exactly what I need! Looks very promising. Plan on giving it a try tonight or tomorrow. Thanks
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jev3gs said:
I use Directory Bind myself with my 64bg card.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
I like this program because you select which apps you want to move to the sd card. It takes more work to use but once you get it setup it works flawlessly so far. I have like 25gb of games installed on my phone
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So you need to select each app separately then? Is there no way to do a batch select at all?
I'll read up on it more.
There is no way to do a batch selection. If you wanted you could select the folder before the game and that would be like doing it via a batch selection.
For example:
Let's say Shadowgun was saved in Android/Data/com.shadowgun/ (again this is not the exact location)
Instead of binding that location you could bind Android/Data/ instead. If you do that you will capture EVERYTHING in that directory now and anything that gets installed there in the future.
The downside of doing it that way is if an app wants to install into that location it will always force it to the sd card which is slower than internal memory. So Games like Asphalt 7 and Nova 3 take longer to load on sd card. So that is why I did one directory (game) at a time so I can choose which games are on the sd while others are on the internal. All games worked though via directory bind that I have tried.
Hope that helps.
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jev3gs said:
There is no way to do a batch selection. If you wanted you could select the folder before the game and that would be like doing it via a batch selection.
For example:
Let's say Shadowgun was saved in Android/Data/com.shadowgun/ (again this is not the exact location)
Instead of binding that location you could bind Android/Data/ instead. If you do that you will capture EVERYTHING in that directory now and anything that gets installed there in the future.
The downside of doing it that way is if an app wants to install into that location it will always force it to the sd card which is slower than internal memory. So Games like Asphalt 7 and Nova 3 take longer to load on sd card. So that is why I did one directory (game) at a time so I can choose which games are on the sd while others are on the internal. All games worked though via directory bind that I have tried.
Hope that helps.
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Thanks, so perhaps this method is not the best scenario for me as I am looking to have all my Apps and data plus music, videos etc out of internal storage on to sd card. Using this method if you update an app I assume it would go to internal and you would need t do the process for that app over again?
I guess I am wanting a seamless way of just swapping internal-external. The script I am using seems to work very well but I am concerned when I go to a 64GB card. I'll keep watching the posts in the _ext2sdcardnote2internal thread.
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Thanks, so perhaps this method is not the best scenario for me as I am looking to have all my Apps and data plus music, videos etc out of internal storage on to sd card. Using this method if you update an app I assume it would go to internal and you would need t do the process for that app over again?
I guess I am wanting a seamless way of just swapping internal-external. The script I am using seems to work very well but I am concerned when I go to a 64GB card. I'll keep watching the posts in the _ext2sdcardnote2internal thread.
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Actually when you do app updates it updates the info on the extsdcard and not internal.
So what happens is the software tricks the Os into thinking the data is on the internal card when it really is on the ext card. So everything happens automatically. You do not need to move the info every time there is an update.
I would suggest doing a small app and playing with it before you jump in all the way. Use Deadtrigger for an example, it won't take to long to transfer the data.
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jev3gs said:
Actually when you do app updates it updates the info on the extsdcard and not internal.
So what happens is the software tricks the Os into thinking the data is on the internal card when it really is on the ext card. So everything happens automatically. You do not need to move the info every time there is an update.
I would suggest doing a small app and playing with it before you jump in all the way. Use Deadtrigger for an example, it won't take to long to transfer the data.
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Thanks again. I am keeping an eye on the extsdcard2internalsdnote2 thread as well re: 64GB cards. The App2SDnote2 script I am using works well with 32gb card but unsure about 64gb card.

Saving apps to sd card?

Hey all. I currently have a Galaxy S 3with Sprint. I am considering coming over to T-mobile with a note 3. With the GS3 apps couldnt be saved to the sd card. Devs made a work around to trick the phone into thinking the sd storage was onboard storage and the onboard storage was sd storage. Does the Note 3 not allow apps to sde either? If so has this work around been created yet or is it being worked on? Thanks!
For most there is little point since the phone has 32gb of internal storage. The application manager has the ability to move apps to the sdcard if they can be already though.
Keep in mind it only moves the App not the App Data. However there are ways to put App Data on the SD card. I use foldermount in the play store to do just that.
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So I would be able to transfer my music to sd card? Thats my main concern since I have over 30 gigs of music...
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So I would be able to transfer my music to sd card? Thats my main concern since I have over 30 gigs of music...
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I'm assuming by music, you mean your Google Music cache and pinned songs? If so, FolderMount isn't designed for this (I tried once), and you instead need to root your phone, then install the Xposed framework (here on XDA in the dev thread), followed by the Music2SD module (on Google Play). It's a godsend.
((You might as well install the Wanam module while you're at it, but I rank Music2SD above it in terms of importance to me, and is the reason I found and installed Xposed in the first place a couple months ago when Google removed the unofficial external SDCard support.))
Thank me later
They also have the same mod they had for note 2 ext2intsdcard mod that mattiadj created (whenever you get your note 3 just shoot me a pm) and yes the note 3 does allow apps2sd, I have over 500+ apps installed and over 17gb+ left on internal
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What can be saved to the SD card?

I'm torn between buying the Tab Pro 8.4 and the 2013 32GB Nexus 7. I like the 8" form factor, but I'm a bit hesitant about only having 16GB of internal storage. I haven't used a device with an SD card slot in quite some time, so I'm wondering how well an Android 4.4 device handles it.
Can the large files that are downloaded by many games to the /Android/obb folder and /Android/data folder be put on the SD card?
Can cached content for Play Music/Play Movies be pushed to the SD card?
Those are my two big ones. Any feedback?
raptir said:
I'm torn between buying the Tab Pro 8.4 and the 2013 32GB Nexus 7. I like the 8" form factor, but I'm a bit hesitant about only having 16GB of internal storage. I haven't used a device with an SD card slot in quite some time, so I'm wondering how well an Android 4.4 device handles it.
Can the large files that are downloaded by many games to the /Android/obb folder and /Android/data folder be put on the SD card?
Can cached content for Play Music/Play Movies be pushed to the SD card?
Those are my two big ones. Any feedback?
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The latest versions of Android do not play well with SD drives. There is a thread about this here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2656151
Once you do THIS, you can use the SD card for pretty much anything. I'd also note that most, if not all, custom ROM's that will be available in the future will have the media_rw issue patched.
raptir said:
I'm torn between buying the Tab Pro 8.4 and the 2013 32GB Nexus 7. I like the 8" form factor, but I'm a bit hesitant about only having 16GB of internal storage. I haven't used a device with an SD card slot in quite some time, so I'm wondering how well an Android 4.4 device handles it.
Can the large files that are downloaded by many games to the /Android/obb folder and /Android/data folder be put on the SD card?
Can cached content for Play Music/Play Movies be pushed to the SD card?
Those are my two big ones. Any feedback?
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The Samsung My Files can copy and paste to the ext-sd so you can download to sd then transfer. Also from your PC you copy to the ext-sd. As stated above to give all apps access to the ext-sd you will need to root and add the permission.
I have 35 games on my tab 8.4 and i have been able to install almost all of themto my sd card. The only ones i havent been able to move to sd are the grand theft auto games.
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All you have to do is go to application manager and select move to sd. You dont need to mess around with the file manager.
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I loaded quite a number on the SD card as well without a single issue.
It is very simple to do. Using Tab Pro 8.4.
The sdcard non-rewritable problem is getting worse on me, I spent $15 USD buying a movie from Google movie and even their own app has option to save the movie onto sdcard, it couldn't be saved at the end.
will a fix from Samsung put an end to this stupidity? Or we should wait until Google releases 5.0?
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The sdcard non-rewritable problem is getting worse on me, I spent $15 USD buying a movie from Google movie and even their own app has option to save the movie onto sdcard, it couldn't be saved at the end. <br />
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will a fix from Samsung put an end to this stupidity? Or we should wait until Google releases 5.0?<br />
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You won't get any fix from Google. Samsung elected to do their own setup of the external storage rather than the Google recommended config. That's up to Samsung to fix.
The problem is that only about 10% of an app is actually getting moved to the sd card. I installed 4 games. All which can be moved over to the sd card. Very little was moved and my internal storage is full. Took it and my note 8 to best buy and the guys at samsung desk said that was just how samsung does the app to sd. So I returned the 8.4 as I was going to use it for gaming. I need more memory space
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Indeed the one flaw of this great tablet.
You can for now only get the 16gb version, so I topped it up with 64gb. Now only realizing you can hardly move stuff around. What's the logic in that?!?
For once I don't want to go through the hassle of root etc, but it seems we are left no choice...
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Use FolderMount, works great for me
wjharing said:
Indeed the one flaw of this great tablet.
You can for now only get the 16gb version, so I topped it up with 64gb. Now only realizing you can hardly move stuff around. What's the logic in that?!?
For once I don't want to go through the hassle of root etc, but it seems we are left no choice...
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Also was facing this situation with a GPS/NAV program that was taking over 4 GB of "internal" space due to the many maps installed, read about FolderMount and installed the free edition from the android market (you need to be rooted), easy to use and it nicely mapped and moved the folder from internal to SD-card memory, freeing + 4 GB for me ... I guess this will work with most other apps/games as well ...
Marcher
I don't know what's different for me but i have a 32gb card just about maxed out with google all access music and google play movies(6 or 8 HD files). Everything plays fine, no issues.
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manigault said:
I don't know what's different for me but i have a 32gb card just about maxed out with google all access music and google play movies(6 or 8 HD files). Everything plays fine, no issues.
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The media (audio/video/pictures) will automatically start using the external SD, that part is working perfectly by default.
The problem is when you install those large games (or indeed satnav maps). All that game data should ideally be saved on the external SD, but this is not working properly. I have some of those Gameloft 1gb games, and when I press 'move to sd', all it moves is the 25mb application, while I would like to have seen the whole 1gb of data to be moved across.
Installed a 64gb card and moved what I could over to it...how do I refresh my menu icons as the ones that got moved are now dark ghost ones.
Thanks,
KC

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