I have discovered my tablet suffers what seems to be a common problem with other Note models.
I have been a little disappointed with battery life and today noticed the tablet vibrating as I was walking, it was detecting the spen removal every thirty seconds or so, even with the tablet in my hand and relatively still. This turns the screen on.
It is most likely going back tomorrow, sadly for a refund as they have no stock, I've had charging issues too. On two occasions it only reached around 53% powered off charging overnight and only hit 90% one evening when powered on, that said, this has only happened a couple times early on. Maybe just the battery finding it's footing and calibrating itself?
It got me thinking though, I'm using a snugg case with a magnet on the closure. Does anyone know if the spen uses a magnet in the silo?
I do occasionally find that with the cover folded round the back that it can cause the screen to go off, so the magnet must be of a reasonable strength. Maybe it's interfering with the silo detecting the pen?
Any thoughts please?
Im pretty sure its not a magnetic sensor, maybe its a pressure sensor of some sort? (i really have no clue lol)
But I had the same problem with mine, and found that if i physically pressed down on the top of the pen when it was inside the silo,
it would temporarily resolve the problem.
if your s-pen isnt snug and can slide in/out, the tablet might not detect the pen as being inside the silo.
Got my exchanged and the s-pen is MUCH more snug, no problems whatsoever.
Im using the Poetic Slimline case (has magnets) and have been using it for over 2 months now, no problems whatsoever.
herbs28 said:
I have discovered my tablet suffers what seems to be a common problem with other Note models.
I have been a little disappointed with battery life and today noticed the tablet vibrating as I was walking, it was detecting the spen removal every thirty seconds or so, even with the tablet in my hand and relatively still. This turns the screen on.
It is most likely going back tomorrow, sadly for a refund as they have no stock, I've had charging issues too. On two occasions it only reached around 53% powered off charging overnight and only hit 90% one evening when powered on, that said, this has only happened a couple times early on. Maybe just the battery finding it's footing and calibrating itself?
It got me thinking though, I'm using a snugg case with a magnet on the closure. Does anyone know if the spen uses a magnet in the silo?
I do occasionally find that with the cover folded round the back that it can cause the screen to go off, so the magnet must be of a reasonable strength. Maybe it's interfering with the silo detecting the pen?
Any thoughts please?
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Did you go into settings and turn off pen detection? Just a suggestion. I have not had this issues nor have I heard of it before.
¿Will-it-Blend? said:
Did you go into settings and turn off pen detection? Just a suggestion. I have not had this issues nor have I heard of it before.
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That setting seems to do nothing, even after reboot. Still detects the pen in and out. Is that normal? Doesn't sound like it.
Short explanation:
"An electromagnetic field is generated from a circuit behind the screen. The S Pen picks this up and uses it to power itself and figure out its position relative to the screen. It sends this, along with information from the S Pen button and the nib at the end, back to the Note."
http://www.androidauthority.com/break-it-down-how-does-the-s-pen-work-154435/
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That setting seems to do nothing, even after reboot. Still detects the pen in and out. Is that normal? Doesn't sound like it.
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I'm sure S-pen detection is the feature where it lets you know if you walk away with your tablet without the s-pen.
My S-pen and Silo are both fine and it still vibrates and I have detection off too.
Geordie Affy said:
I'm sure S-pen detection is the feature where it lets you know if you walk away with your tablet without the s-pen.
My S-pen and Silo are both fine and it still vibrates and I have detection off too.
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From what I've read, the tablet doesn't have that walk away feature and it's limited to the note phones.
herbs28 said:
From what I've read, the tablet doesn't have that walk away feature and it's limited to the note phones.
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Oh!....then whats this feature do
Geordie Affy said:
Oh!....then whats this feature do
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As far as I can tell, nothing at all.
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Oh!....then whats this feature do
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S-Pen detection disables the digitiser if the S-Pen is IN the holster. It save a bit of power.
I have the HM5100 Bluetooth Pen. It works like this.
With "Disable pen detection" unchecked I can use the BT spen while the note' spen is still in the holster.
With "Disable pen detection" checked the BT spen does not work util I remove the note' spen from the holder.
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S-Pen detection disables the digitiser if the S-Pen is IN the holster. It save a bit of power.
I have the HM5100 Bluetooth Pen. It works like this.
With "Disable pen detection" unchecked I can use the BT spen while the note' spen is still in the holster.
With "Disable pen detection" checked the BT spen does not work util I remove the note' spen from the holder.
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That makes sense, thanks.
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Am i the only one who is having this issue? My phone wakes up while in the case due to the magnet. At first i thought that the sleep and awake button was getting hit when i pit it in the case, but even sitting the phone on top of the case still does it. Is there anyway to turn this feature off?
i am new to windows mobile so thanks in advance.
leewongfei said:
Am i the only one who is having this issue? My screen turns itself on when its in the case. At first i thought that the sleep and awake button was getting hit when i pit it in the case, but even sitting the phone on top of the case still does it. Is there anyway to turn this feature off?
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Apparently magnets in the case can turn the phone on, mine sometimes turns on but it seems only to do this if the magnet is passed over the bottom part of the screen where the hardware buttons are.
I haven't seen anyone coming up with a fix, I suppose it really depends if this is a feature or an accidental thing
raynerda said:
Apparently magnets in the case can turn the phone on, mine sometimes turns on but it seems only to do this if the magnet is passed over the bottom part of the screen where the hardware buttons are.
I haven't seen anyone coming up with a fix, I suppose it really depends if this is a feature or an accidental thing
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Apache was the same way... I believe it actually uses a magnetic switch to detect when it's slid open. I discovered that I could use a magnet (the one in my case, no less) to rotate the screen.
Yeah, it's a pain.
I found this in the archive but i am not sure how to edit a registry (if im reading it correctly). Is anyone a bit more savvy than me thats willing to try what is discussed on this post?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-453771.html
The above post is the reg edit that I use every time I flash. Fixes the problem perfectly.
Mine was already 0
So that must not be the problem for mine
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question about note 2 pen missing alert function.
Does anyone know what technology using for this feature. proximity sensor or accelerometer? or using EMR technique?
I am so curious.
I was wondering about the same thing.
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It appears to be accelerometer based. If you take the pen out, put the phone on the table, and walk away with the pen, the phone doesn't seem to react. Do the opposite, and the phone lets you know, if the function is enabled.
missing pen alert event question
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It appears to be accelerometer based. If you take the pen out, put the phone on the table, and walk away with the pen, the phone doesn't seem to react. Do the opposite, and the phone lets you know, if the function is enabled.
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I know in order to trigger the alert, you need to satisfy 2 conditions: pen is 10 ft. away from phone && phone needs to in motion
obviously, the 2nd condition implies using accelerometer to sense the axis of the phone. What about the 10 ft away. what sensor is used to measure this? proximity sensor? or some EMR? I dont think EMR can transfer any signals in 10 ft distance.
Thank you
You do not need to be 10' away to trigger the alert. You can remove the pen, place it on your desk, power off the screen and gently shake the phone to simulate walking. It seems it's just using the accelerometer to detect walking like motion.
Other things that will trigger the alert:
Removing the pen, placing it in one pocket and the phone in another pocket and walking.
Removing the pen, placing it on a chair in the middle of the room, placing the phone in your pocket, and walking around the chair.
I have tried all 3 methods above. Proximity has nothing to do with it.
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You do not need to be 10' away to trigger the alert. You can remove the pen, place it on your desk, power off the screen and gently shake the phone to simulate walking. It seems it's just using the accelerometer to detect walking like motion.
Other things that will trigger the alert:
Removing the pen, placing it in one pocket and the phone in another pocket and walking.
Removing the pen, placing it on a chair in the middle of the room, placing the phone in your pocket, and walking around the chair.
I have tried all 3 methods above. Proximity has nothing to do with it.
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Great experiment!!!
some article misleads me saying 10' distance.
now it is clear
Thank you very much
Interesting. I tested this last week by putting the pen on my kitchen table then walking at least 100 feet away from my house outside and nada. Oh and yes, I have S Pen keeper enabled and I'm running stock Deodexed.
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Galaxy note 2 is designed very user friendly like when you remove S-pen, it will show you the S-note menu, When you insert the earphone, it will show you the music app. I have also experienced this S-pen detachment alert that is really an awesome feature.
Jocelyn said:
Interesting. I tested this last week by putting the pen on my kitchen table then walking at least 100 feet away from my house outside and nada. Oh and yes, I have S Pen keeper enabled and I'm running stock Deodexed.
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If you hold the phone while you walk, like you would while using it, it won't trigger the alert. It needs to think it's been put away, like in a pocket or holder of some kind.
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If you hold the phone while you walk, like you would while using it, it won't trigger the alert. It needs to think it's been put away, like in a pocket or holder of some kind.
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Screen just needs to be off IMHO. pull the S-pen out put it on your desk. Then with the warning turned on, shake your phone. Doesn't matter if the S-pen is 6 inches away or 100 ft. So long as the screen is off and the phone senses motion it'll trigger IME.
Skripka said:
Screen just needs to be off IMHO. pull the S-pen out put it on your desk. Then with the warning turned on, shake your phone. Doesn't matter if the S-pen is 6 inches away or 100 ft. So long as the screen is off and the phone senses motion it'll trigger IME.
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Thank You, that did the trick
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Hi,
I'm experiencing a problem that when I tilt my note (s-pen in the socket and facing downwards) and shake lightly, the device detected that the pen is detached but in fact it is still in the holster. It pose as a problem because when I bring out the device the screen turns on now and then when it is in my bag. This cause a lot of battery drain. I'm not sure if everyone is experiencing this or my set is faulty.
Anyway if anyone wonders,
The stylus problem is related to a LCD problem according to the samsung technician. I was playing with the day note using the ipad's smart cover. I wonder if its the magnet that damaged the LCD..
Same problem
earthtk said:
Hi,
I'm experiencing a problem that when I tilt my note (s-pen in the socket and facing downwards) and shake lightly, the device detected that the pen is detached but in fact it is still in the holster. It pose as a problem because when I bring out the device the screen turns on now and then when it is in my bag. This cause a lot of battery drain. I'm not sure if everyone is experiencing this or my set is faulty.
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I just started having that problem as well and I haven't put my screen near a magnet. Did the tech give you an idea as to what needs to be done?
kmroth20 said:
I just started having that problem as well and I haven't put my screen near a magnet. Did the tech give you an idea as to what needs to be done?
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It is the same to me. I don't use any magnetic case. Sometimes I grab with my hand and it turn on because of the pen detached detection.
Is there a way to turn it off? Without root?
whpgab said:
It is the same to me. I don't use any magnetic case. Sometimes I grab with my hand and it turn on because of the pen detached detection.
Is there a way to turn it off? Without root?
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Why in God's good name did you not, or do you not, return it and get an exchange? This is obviously not normal behavior and is a problem, and will likely get worse as time goes on....I would not accept that out of a6 hundred dollar tablet....no chance
Anyone feel the detection of the s pen in the holder is too sensitive?
Going to be getting this tablet tomorrow and I was wondering how SquareTrade works? I bought the tablet for $499.00 on Amazon so am I supposed to buy the 450-500 plan or the 500-600 plan? I got the 16 GB version so MSRP is $550 but I paid $499. I'm new to this extended warranty stuff.
earthtk said:
Hi,
I'm experiencing a problem that when I tilt my note (s-pen in the socket and facing downwards) and shake lightly, the device detected that the pen is detached but in fact it is still in the holster. It pose as a problem because when I bring out the device the screen turns on now and then when it is in my bag. This cause a lot of battery drain. I'm not sure if everyone is experiencing this or my set is faulty.
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i got the same problem, even without the magnet cover. I cannot turn it off from the setting.
never had any detection probleme
Yea had the same problem.it was a hardware problem..got a replacement and haven't had that problem at all..
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I was texting and i used my S Pen to hover over the attachment button to get the last 4 images.. clicked an image and sent it... no issues.
sat the pen on the desk... went to grab it about 2 minutes later and it wouldnt work..
absolutely no response what so ever.
re-insterted the S pen into the device and it was registered. pulled it back out and my action memo popped up but S Pen still non funtional.
rebooted... nothing...
tried replacing the tip and it got even more wierd.
now.. it writes without touching the screen.. as if the device thinks its already touching the device (about 2 cm above)
it will also select an icon and move it without it even touching the screen. it will also do tis without even having a tip in it. also not getting the pointer icon when hovering over. and the writing seems to be off to the side slightly from the point.
do i simply need to adjust the sensitivity down? the sensitivity was perect before i dont understand what happened. the phone is not even 5 days old yet.
If the phone is 5 days old solution seems simple: back up your phone book and apps and do full factory reset, if that doesn't work take it to T-mobile and have them check with different pen and replace either phone or pen.
pete4k said:
If the phone is 5 days old solution seems simple: back up your phone book and apps and do full factory reset, if that doesn't work take it to T-mobile and have them check with different pen and replace either phone or pen.
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Got it working.. had to pop off the button and adjust the sensitivity back about a full revolution... still dont understand what happened.. but atleast its working like normal again
I'm glad you got it fixed, but it's strange it changed settings like that all by itself, could the coil inside the pen move up or down, especially when you inserted new tip? I would closely monitor it, I'm not sure about s-pen in particular, but heard accessories are covered only for 90 days. I never had to adjust my s-pen, so it could be something loose inside yours and it could affect it's performance again in future.
I don't think so... it was super hard to turn.. it was too small for even my old glasses screwdriver so I had to use the tip of a lock pick tool and it was pretty stiff
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I was having this problem before a little and I would just do a simple reboot. However, this morning my clumsy niece dropped my tablet on the floor Now the rotation is not working at all.
I've seen videos which lead me to believe that the issue is due to a loose ME571k cable. I have tried fastening it. I inadvertently took it out and reconnected it. I've tried to fasten it the best I can. The touch screen works. However, orientation is dead.
There was a program mentioned called "Test My Android" and none of the sensor calibrators show any sign of life.
This is driving me crazy. I don't know what to do. Maybe it is loose and I just have to keep on messing with it but it's stressful.
Any advice?
ev1lchris said:
Maybe it is loose...
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Yes it is - for sure. The 'rotation' sensor is a tiny chip which is unlikely to be damaged by a drop.
re-seat the cable on both ends
spray the contacts of the cable with Electronic Cleaner if possible
apply a layer of thick tape over the cable's motherboard connector, so the back cover will deliver extra pressure on it
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Hello, I followed the steps of next video and my screen rotation has fixed
https://youtu.be/cOnccu6Nbl0
Hope it helps you!
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It seems no matter how many times or how snugly I set the cable in that the screen rotation still does not work.
I'm using an app for rotation now. It works but it drives me crazy.