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I have to wonder if the cable for the incredible will work with my phone. Mytouch. I have seen one for video composite and one for hdmi. Maybe if it fits someone could handle the software if needed.
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The mytouch doesnt have the hardware for video out, its not the fact of finding a cable, its the fact that the phone doesnt support it.
I suppose they abondoned that in favor of DLNA (UPnP). Of course the finest hotels are only now putting in composite video jacks. DLNA is a LONG LONG way in the future for the main stream.
Still, I did sit on the couch and streamed from my Glacier (via 802.11g) to a PS3 COMPONENT out to a 52" LCD. The picture was shockingly good. Had the occasional glitch, but that was as likely as not the LAN.
How do you set things up to stream from the my4g to the ps3?
Great DLNA Device
Just for those interested:
I bought a WDTV Live a little while back for about $65 on sale. Its an awesome little box, especially with the latest firmware update. (They are always developing firmwares improvements with added features and there is a sizable community of people running hacked firmwares)
Anyways, it runs all of my video files in Full 1080p (all of them that I use, but not every one that exists) and actually has some support for DVD menus for my rips. It does YouTube, Pandora, Flickr, MediaFly, pulls from my Central Axis (NAS), and most importantly to MT4G users, it does DLNA.
I'm actually going to buy a "WDTV Live PLUS" box which does everything that this one does but also handles Netflix (now) and Blockbuster On Demand (soon).
Here's a TV-out cable for those who don't have/use DLNA.MT4G TV-out Cable
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Here's a TV-out cable for those who don't have/use DLNA.MT4G TV-out Cable
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Does anyone know if this does truly work
jjjackson56 said:
Does anyone know if this does truly work
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Honestly, I don't know. The cable is HTC branded OEM product and is sold for the G2, Incredible, N1, and others. Amazon sells the cable for $17 and you could surely return it to them no problem. You could call HTC and ask about compatibility.
tv out
well i have a 52 inch flat screen tv,,with all sorts of connections on the back and side,,it also has a USB connection,,,,i hooked my phone right up to the tv,,and the tv actually see's my memory card,,,you can view your pics and videos < if the videos are formatted for the tv to see> and you can use the oem data cable that come with the phone.
Not trying to bring back from the dead, but have done much searching only to come up with mixed opinions. Does this phone have Video out capabilities via a component cable?
Here's some info regarding what I've tried and what the results have been w/ my HTC ONE. Hopefully, it can help you based on what you're trying to accomplish. Maybe with some feedback, I can see if there's any work around. Obviously, this probably wasn't entirely part of the design team's intentions for this phone, but it's fun to try.
Using a 5-PIN MHL to USB Adapter:
INTERFACE: When I plug this in to my phone, I immediately notice scrolling through the app drawer is laggy. Do you? My adapter is from Ebay, and is about a year old. It looks like any other $10 adapter I see out there, but I wasn't sure if the newer ones are better.
INPUT LAG: almost non-existent. Pressing controls take action immediately.
MIRROR: TV is a true mirror of the phone.
MOVIES: playback stutters due to the MHL1.0 24fps @ 1080 restriction
GAMES: are playable due to low input lag, but again the 24fps bites you for any game (this is MANY) that does not support changing its resolution.
Using HTC Media Link HD: Ran the update to latest (as of Jun 19th 2013)
INTERFACE: Noticed right away that my phone remained butter-smooth while also transmitting signal to the TV.
INPUT LAG: felt like about 300ms.
MIRROR: TV is not a true mirror of the phone. I immediately noticed my phone was taken over, put in landscape mode and my app drawer was different.
MOVIES: Playback seemed smoother overall, with occasional hitching (not frequent enough to deter from use).
GAMES: Games are unplayable due to input lag. Noticed a softening effect and when not lagging, probably was a touch smoother in FPS.
Other Considerations:
Hook up to a non-1080p TV: Nope. Most modern 720p TVs support 1080i, and thus tell the phone to send it 1080 signal.
Hook up a REALLY non-1080p TV: Ok, ok... so get a 8+ year old TV, or an older LCD Monitor. Yes. Whatever resolution it supports at max will make the HTC One step down from 1080 signal and tada... movies, games and interface all become butter smooth over MHL to USB.
Change the output resolution in the app: This will work if the game supports it, but many don't. Movies? Does anyone know of a good movie app that lets you change the output res?
Root your phone, it's time for ElementalX's 720p MHL HDMI output tweak since this phone doesn't support MHL 2.0: Sure, but I'm trying to find a non-rooting method first. It looks decent. Ultimately, if I have to, I will, but I'm trying not to tinker this go-round. The phone is totally acceptable to me otherwise. On Sprint, he's just begun support for us and I'm keeping an eye on the thread to see better results from the pioneers first.
References:
Hardware Info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2226982
ElementalX w/ 720p MHL USB support: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2249774
New finding: If your MHL adapter causes your TV to blink in and out from time to time, I figured out what it is: Turn off Mobile Data on your phone.
For me, when I'm on 3G at least, whenever it gets a data hit, the HDMI functionality cuts out causing a static, noisy output to the TV.
Fortunately Wi-Fi is OK. Untested yet with 4G.
About to purchase a Bluetooth controller , a generic mhl adapter from amazon that has been confirmed to work with the one , and a flash of the ElementalX kernel . Really hope I'll be able to play my N64oid and PSXe titles smoothly . Will definitely report back with results
G1toEVO4G said:
About to purchase a Bluetooth controller , a generic mhl adapter from amazon that has been confirmed to work with the one , and a flash of the ElementalX kernel . Really hope I'll be able to play my N64oid and PSXe titles smoothly . Will definitely report back with results
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With that great option to set to 720p you should be butter-smooth. Good luck and let us know!
Hey.
I am running the latest nightly of CM 10.1 on my HTC one.
I can not seem to get my mhl cable working. Once I plug it in my HTC one often shuts down. The cable isn't faulty. It works like a charm with my galaxy nexus.
Sometimes I see a mirror of my screen but it is with a really bad resolution. Sometimes it flickers and shows a picture on and off. Mostly it freezes and then shuts down. It's really annoying.
USB OTG also doesn't work. The frequency of getting a bad resolution for a little while before it shuts down worked better after I disabled USB debugging in my developer settings.
Any thoughts? Workarounds?
Thanks in advance.
HTC one. CM 10.1
Turn off any form of motion control, as that'll cause quite a few issues as well.
Correct. Thanks a lot. I turned off auto rotate and then it worked. Didn't think of that. Now the mhl HDMI setup runs flawless without lag.
HTC one. CM 10.1
It's just me or image quality it's not that good? It's not the same as computer connected with HDMI? It seems it lower bitrate or diminish image quality. I am not talking about 24 fps limitation...
Does MHL adaptor quality might have an influence, or it's all the same?
Got it from Aliexpress for $30+. :victory:
Fyi, my Note n8010 status is custom with root.
I'm running stock Germany mh2, with Boeffla kernel.
Do you have a link to the exact product? Thanks.
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Do you have a link to the exact product? Thanks.
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Ordered this:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Mult...isplay-dongle-Miracast-dongle/1230147002.html
But he sent this:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Mult...FI-display-dongle-S-Miracast/1284987622.html?
Not sure what the difference are.
Thanks I'll check them out. Did u face any significant lag while browsing or streaming videos?
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Thanks I'll check them out. Did u face any significant lag while browsing or streaming videos?
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Not really. As shown in the pics in first post,I have one showing both the note and tv with a stop watch app, the lag is around 100ms.
Using MX player hardware mode, video only shows on tv but and subs only showing on note.
Using software mode, video and subs showing on both.
Using stock video player, it automatically becomes DLNA mode instead of mirroring. Good thing is DLNA mode is fullscreen while mirror mode is not.
This is encouraging- I've been able to get the ASCD to work with a rooted kernel but would like an alternate dongle that doesn't cost $80 that I can use on the road with.
So looking around on Amazon I've ordered one of these. (I don't know when I'll get to review it, though- as it must literally be coming via "Slow boat from China" as Amazon estimates I'll get it between 3-6 weeks from now!)
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This is encouraging- I've been able to get the ASCD to work with a rooted kernel but would like an alternate dongle that doesn't cost $80 that I can use on the road with.
So looking around on Amazon I've ordered one of these. (I don't know when I'll get to review it, though- as it must literally be coming via "Slow boat from China" as Amazon estimates I'll get it between 3-6 weeks from now!)
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I think they are the same products with different packaging.
What's ASCD?
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What's ASCD?
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The All-Share Cast Dongle (the Samsung one).
audio/video lag
I have the ASCD and use it with my rooted S4 just fine except for one thing. When I sgare netflix or any video there is a noticeable lag in the audio and when the actors/actresses actually speak so its like a bad old karate movie where the mouths just never match up. Any suggestions as no one else here has reported a lag like this. Thanks
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Any suggestions ...?
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Yeah, two things to try:
- you're going to have to get the ASCD closer to your Note; what you're describing sounds like a low-bitrate connection
- Try a different video player; I haven't tried using NF with the ASCD, but I do know while the Archos Video Player will have that same audio/video sync issue, the Dice Player (for example) doesn't (I think it depends on the output method the App uses).
Can also try to change your home wireless wifi channel to another band. It could simply be interference.
The miracast dongle that I've posted comes in 2 modes: Mirror and AP. AP being DLNA mode which is more stable, you can try mainly for streaming videos.
To switch to DLNA mode, press the button on the dongle. Use Bubbleupnp as a server to stream videos over to the dongle. I have yet to find a solution to external subtitles though.
A check in other DLNA providers in other forums simply say use MKV with embedded subtitles for DLNA solutions. Bugger.
Btw using Note's built in video player will use auto 'DLNA mode' without switching the dongle. Its much smoother than Mxplayer.
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... I've ordered one of these. (... Amazon estimates I'll get it between 3-6 weeks from now!)
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Well, it finally showed up * - and while it's tempermental (can take a couple of tries to finally "click"), it does work out-of-the-box with AllShare Cast. I do like the status screen while connecting, too. I haven't tried the DLNA option yet, will review that later. I see the price has gone up, though- I only paid $25 all-in for mine.
* - it arrived at the PO on the 9th, but sat there for 10 more days until I'd looked on the Amazon site wondering where it was and figured out the Post Office for my office (where I'd had it delivered) hadn't tried to resend it (nor left a note) after trying a Saturday delivery.
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Well, it finally showed up ...
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... and you get what you pay for; the micro-USB connector that powers it up has already shifted loose, so the charger has to be jiggled a bit to make it stay powered up. Ah well, $25
It's easy to disassemble (the case just snaps apart), so I might try re-soldering the connector myself.
So, I kept trying other adaptors. This $30 (on sale) Rocketfish Miracast Receiver from BestBuy didn't work (would connect, but immediately disconnect) but if you can find a Netgear PTV 3000 on sale (I paid $40 for a refurb off an Amazon Store; they're usually ~$80) I'd get one of these- it works even better than the Sammy AllShare Cast Dongle, with better connection reliability (it's got a 5GHz radio, not sure if the ASCD does, but it's gotta help) and due to that seems to have less lag, and less "mushiness" on video.
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So, I kept trying other adaptors. This $30 (on sale) Rocketfish Miracast Receiver from BestBuy didn't work (would connect, but immediately disconnect) but if you can find a Netgear PTV 3000 on sale (I paid $40 for a refurb off an Amazon Store; they're usually ~$80) I'd get one of these- it works even better than the Sammy AllShare Cast Dongle, with better connection reliability (it's got a 5GHz radio, not sure if the ASCD does, but it's gotta help) and due to that seems to have less lag, and less "mushiness" on video.
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Do let us know how the Netgear works out. I have changed my home wifi to 5ghz to reduce interference with my 2.4ghz devices but I doubt that is helping much since I am staying in an apartment. On my laptop, I am seeing around 13 of my neighbours wifi.
The miracast that I have works fine in DLNA, but I would really prefer the mirror to be smooth.
I'm probably going to wait to see how the mirroring in Chromecast works out:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/12/08/...ium=feed&utm_campaign=Engadget&?ncid=rss_full
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So, I kept trying other adaptors. This $30 (on sale) Rocketfish Miracast Receiver from BestBuy didn't work (would connect, but immediately disconnect) but if you can find a Netgear PTV 3000 on sale (I paid $40 for a refurb off an Amazon Store; they're usually ~$80) I'd get one of these- it works even better than the Sammy AllShare Cast Dongle, with better connection reliability (it's got a 5GHz radio, not sure if the ASCD does, but it's gotta help) and due to that seems to have less lag, and less "mushiness" on video.
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Any idea if the PTV3000 is affected by the HDCP issues the ASCD was hit by after the firmware update to ME29? If the PTV3000 can output to legacy non HDCP compliant kit like digital to anlaogue converters feeding a VGA signal to data projectors I reckon I would get one to replace the ASCD with a Cable Matters HDCP stripper.
Hi,
I have tested Z1C with both Miracast dongle and MHL cable.
MHL cable is so called 5 PIN cable. The same one that works with Galaxy S2 and HTC One X.
MHL Cable works just fine.
I have also tested Miracast dongle (iPazzport). It connects slowly in Miracast mode. Screen and sound gets transferred to TV very slowly. It is basically unusable. The same dongle works just fine with Asus HD7 tablet.
DLNA mode is not usable either for video. At least not for HD content. It can be used for sound transfer. But it has minor problems also with sound only connections. I have tested with the same iPazzport HDMI dongle and WD HDTV Live box.
Please share your experience.
how is the lag for mhl? i heard some phones get quite a bit of lag.
also, what mhl adapter u use?
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how is the lag for mhl? i heard some phones get quite a bit of lag.
also, what mhl adapter u use?
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There is definitely some lag with MHL. I can only express my gut feeling. 50-100 ms, I guess. Is there any good way to measure it?
I am using this adapter:
www.ebay.com/itm/310855110310
I ordered http://www.amazon.com/Decrescent-Adapter-Samsung-Galaxy-Smartphones/dp/B00I5J6WVY
but it will take 2 weeks more to come.
I plan to order the PS3 controller too for gaming on screen, but not sure how it will be with the lag. also not sure if these cheap ps3 controllers will work or i need the original ps3 controller. for wireless of course, not planing to use wired controllers. maybe xbox wireless can work too. testing to come.
For measuring it, the best method is to start the stopwatch and record the TV and the phone's screen with some point and shoot camera, just stop the video later after 10 seconds for example and see the difference between the times.
at least thats what i read around the net ..
MHL lag.
First, tested using timer app in phone. Took pictures containing both mobile and plasma screen.
Out of 13 shots:
0.1 s delay - 9 times
0.2 s delay - 2 times
All the rest, 1 shot had 0.1-0.3 s delay (between TV frames), another had 0 - 0.2 s delay (between TV frames again).
Second test.Used http://vimeo.com/12505989 test video.
My laptop (connected through display port->HDMI) was 100% in sync. Z1C was 2-3 frames late (on 24 fps video).
I would say, it is about 120 ms delay. And it is huge for a cable connection IMHO.
Shame, Sony, shame!!!
My other phone Galaxy S Advance did much better job with DLNA sharing.
Which means that there must be a problem with WiFi (either HW or SW).
I am really disappointed. Way too many problems with a device that was meant to be almost a flagship. I wonder if all those problems also exist with Z1 older brother as well. Or did Sony cut some corners again...
Anyone who could explain why it's necessary to switch wifi off then on again when you activate media sharing (DLNA)?
Say you sit at home, your wifi is on ofc and you like to send a pic or a track to your AVR or TV, then why does it say "please turn on wifi" when you activate media sharing...
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I ordered http://www.amazon.com/Decrescent-Adapter-Samsung-Galaxy-Smartphones/dp/B00I5J6WVY
but it will take 2 weeks more to come.
I plan to order the PS3 controller too for gaming on screen, but not sure how it will be with the lag. also not sure if these cheap ps3 controllers will work or i need the original ps3 controller. for wireless of course, not planing to use wired controllers. maybe xbox wireless can work too. testing to come.
For measuring it, the best method is to start the stopwatch and record the TV and the phone's screen with some point and shoot camera, just stop the video later after 10 seconds for example and see the difference between the times.
at least thats what i read around the net ..
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Official ps3 controller works great for wireless gaming through mhl, i also dont seem to suffer from any lagging? (gaming,streaming etc)
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How about mirror op sender?
Has anyone tried mirror op sender & mirror op presenter on the xperia z1 compact? Seems rather fast just no audio.
Hi. Should it work with any device that has a HDMI input or it has to be with MHL support. Bought Mhl cable from eBay, phone opens Tv launcher but Nothing comes on TV.
got this jus USD3 .working well http://www.ebay.com/sch/sis.html?_k...HTC+EVO+Galaxy+S2+i9000+DJNP&_id=380898940150
MIRROR CAST is crap my lg tv has inbuilt receiver. I was soo ashamed at LG showroom when my expensive Z1c was dropping frames etc while not so expensive LG androids mirror casting really good.I hate sony for there crappy WI Fi chips
Hi All.
I've got a passive mhl cable (no external power needed), this: http://www.delock.de/produkte/G_83297/merkmale.html?setLanguage=un
What should I do with it to use with my Z1C? I connected them, but nothing on the tv screen . I missed something?
Thanks
Hi, I try to keep my old 4: 3 tube working with a fire tv. For this I use an HDMI 2 AV converter, because the tube does not. have hdmi The image quality quite well. Only problem is the image format/aspect ratio. The content is streched over the whole screen. In 16: 9 movies the top and bottom black bars are missing and 4: 3 series are shown as a square withe black bars left and right. Looks a little bit strange on a 4:3-tv . Does anyone have any idea or experience, whether you can change this somehow? On the old tv itself is not possible.
Purchase of a new current TVs in this case is incidentally not an option because it is an heirloom of my wife's grandmother. Must therefore not be proposed.
Thanks
They say it's cheaper to keep her, understood. Use old tv as tv stand for New tv. Problem solved. Far easier for Jesus to. Feed many with bread and fish than to get good viewing on old tv.
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There is info on forcing aftv to other resolutions using certain remote button combination. That may help
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There is info on forcing aftv to other resolutions using certain remote button combination. That may help
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It still doesn't allow a 4:3 aspect ratio. 720p or 480p is going to look just as wonky as 1080p.
a device like this might work for you. I have one working on an old boob tube with a Logitech Revue. Picture is adequate but your mileage may vary.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008FO7PQA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Hi, I've allready solved the problem. I've showed my wife, how unsharp the old tube is compared to the lcd of my notebook. That was the missing argument to convince her, that a new tv is the far better solution . Therefor I got with rp201's suggestion but without the tv-stand .
@tekweezle: thats exactly the device I use to get the fire tv to my old tv.