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[Q] 4G, Prepaid?

So I had a Droid 3 on Verizon on a prepaid line ($95 for 450 talk, unlimited text, and unlimited data) but that was 3G.
With the gNexi coming out, I was wondering if I would even be able to use it's 4g capabilities on my prepaid line? I'm obviously going to buy it at full-retail price but will the 4G even work or will I be stuck on 3G all the time?
I can't do contracts...
Should I wait for T-Mobile to get it and use their 4G prepaid instead?

I'm unsure if VZW has a LTE prepay service. That's something you have to look into separately. My guess is they don't. Unless they explicitly say that your prepay covers LTE I would expect to only get 3G.
As far as switching to a different carrier no one can tell you which is better. Its all about where you will use the phone and its your call.

I just did an online chat with a VZW rep, here it is:
Please hold for a Verizon Wireless sales representative to assist you with your order. Thank you for your patience.
You are now chatting with 'Kiara'
Kiara: Hello. Thank you for visiting our chat service. May I help you with your order today?
You: I was wondering if 4G phones like the Droid Bionic are eligible for the Prepaid Smartphone plans???
Kiara: I do apologize for the inconvenience, although the Bionic is not able to be pre paid
You: Are their any 4G phones available for the Prepaid plans?
You: And/or can you tell me if there are any plans to offer any???
Kiara: I do apologize although at this time there are not
You: Ok, thank you for your help
So, looks like you can't, at this time, use a 4G phone on their prepaid plans.
I currently have a Nexus S on T-mobile's $30 month prepaid plan (100 mins, unl. text, unl. data*throttled after 5GB), and I love it but I don't use my phone much for calls... I plan on getting the Galaxy Nexus and using it on this plan once it's available.

Yeah it looks like I'll have to wait for the galaxy nexus to drop on TMobile
WoW this sucksss.... It probably won't even come out until late December...
Maybe I should just import? No idea how it works but I want my nexus asap
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Dmw017 said:
Yeah it looks like I'll have to wait for the galaxy nexus to drop on TMobile
WoW this sucksss.... It probably won't even come out until late December...
Maybe I should just import? No idea how it works but I want my nexus asap
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Look on the bright side... t-mo plans are cheaper than Verizon. So you'll save money if you switch. But then again tmo reception around your area would play a big role too.

ruthlesset said:
Look on the bright side... t-mo plans are cheaper than Verizon. So you'll save money if you switch. But then again tmo reception around your area would play a big role too.
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Yeah I looked into it and Tmobile is way better than Verizon. I live in NYC so reception shouldnt be a problem at all. Now I'm just trying to figure out if I should import the 16GB model or wait for the 32GB US model :/ bleh ... I wonder when Tmobile will be getting it

Dmw017 said:
Yeah it looks like I'll have to wait for the galaxy nexus to drop on TMobile
WoW this sucksss.... It probably won't even come out until late December...
Maybe I should just import? No idea how it works but I want my nexus asap
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If you have T-mo service in the area then its sooo much better. Just wait, don't import. You'll probably have to buy it unlocked (probably best buy, just like Nexus S) but you'll be better off for it. You don't want to sign a 2year for a Nexus on VZW and get blocked tethering and crap on it.
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Dmw017 said:
Yeah I looked into it and Tmobile is way better than Verizon. I live in NYC so reception shouldnt be a problem at all. Now I'm just trying to figure out if I should import the 16GB model or wait for the 32GB US model :/ bleh ... I wonder when Tmobile will be getting it
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its all up in the air. As I said above ^, they might not "get it" officially at all. Might have to buy unlocked from Google/Best Buy.
But the winner is that the T-mo plans can be as low as 1/2 the price of VZW.

martonikaj said:
its all up in the air. As I said above ^, they might not "get it" officially at all. Might have to buy unlocked from Google/Best Buy.
But the winner is that the T-mo plans can be as low as 1/2 the price of VZW.
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Actually they have a $30 Prepaid plan with 100talk/unlimited text/ and unlimited data (5gb of 4G) -- available only on new line activation.
Btw can you clarify the "unlocked from google/best buy" part? Would I still have to use a sim card if Tmobile wont officially sell it

Dmw017 said:
Actually they have a $30 Prepaid plan with 100talk/unlimited text/ and unlimited data (5gb of 4G) -- available only on new line activation.
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yea their prepay options are pretty epic. 100min is a bit low for most though. I was just referring to their postpay options that are pretty cheap too. I've looked into moving from my EM+ no-contract plan to a prepay lately actually.
Btw can you clarify the "unlocked from google/best buy" part? Would I still have to use a sim card if Tmobile wont officially sell it
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Well if you want my opinion I think they'll end up just selling it exactly like they did with the Nexus S. They sold it online, and they offered it via Best Buy unlocked. You'd buy the phone, then buy your service and get a SIM card from AT&T or T-mobile (or Simple Mobile, or whatever) separately and plug it in. The GN is pentaband HSPA+ and will work with pretty much any SIM in the world.

Dmw017 said:
Yeah I looked into it and Tmobile is way better than Verizon. I live in NYC so reception shouldnt be a problem at all. Now I'm just trying to figure out if I should import the 16GB model or wait for the 32GB US model :/ bleh ... I wonder when Tmobile will be getting it
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Speaking from personal experience, the problem with T-Mobile in NYC is that as soon as you are a few feet below ground level, you lose signal. When you can get 5 bars, it's great, T-Mobile probably has the least congested network of anyone, and you enjoy superb 3/4G speeds. But you will be frustrated by how spotty the coverage is. Go 20 miles North to Westchester or 20 miles east to LI and you'll often find yourself exiting buildings to get a signal.

Chirality said:
Speaking from personal experience, the problem with T-Mobile in NYC is that as soon as you are a few feet below ground level, you lose signal. When you can get 5 bars, it's great, T-Mobile probably has the least congested network of anyone, and you enjoy superb 3/4G speeds. But you will be frustrated by how spotty the coverage is. Go 20 miles North to Westchester or 20 miles east to LI and you'll often find yourself exiting buildings to get a signal.
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Lol that's alright I don't leave the city anyways. What I am wondering is what happens when you deplete your limited use of the 4g data (I'll get 5gb). Someone told me that you get bumped down to EDGE(2G) speeds, but I thought you only go down to 3G.
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Dmw017 said:
Lol that's alright I don't leave the city anyways. What I am wondering is what happens when you deplete your limited use of the 4g data (I'll get 5gb). Someone told me that you get bumped down to EDGE(2G) speeds, but I thought you only go down to 3G.
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As I (and many others) explained in the other thread about T-mobile:
- You get 5GB of data, that's 4g/3g/2g.
- Once you use all 5GB in a month, you get throttled.
- Throttled speeds are in the range of what EDGE is, even though your phone still says "3G" up in the status bar.
- Once your billing period ends, you get a new 5GB batch of data.
There's no discerning between 4G and 3G by T-mobile. HSPA+ is just a fast version of T-mobile's 3G network. Its not separate.

Just curious has any one looked into metroPCS they say they allow any cdma phone on their network and they have lte. There speeds may not be the greatest and not the best coverage but the price is spot on and unlimited!

robertlawson225 said:
Just curious has any one looked into metroPCS they say they allow any cdma phone on their network and they have lte. There speeds may not be the greatest and not the best coverage but the price is spot on and unlimited!
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Don't think it'll work. You'd have to unlock it somehow, and even then I think theres going to be inconsistencies with the LTE frequencies they use, etc.

martonikaj said:
Don't think it'll work. You'd have to unlock it somehow, and even then I think theres going to be inconsistencies with the LTE frequencies they use, etc.
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I thought that all nexus devices where unlocked developer phones. also i just talked to metroPCS and they did say hardware wise any cdma ohone will work and so will the LTE but, there might be a problem with software incompatibilities. but if that is true i would think our fellow xda members would figure out how to fix any software problems

robertlawson225 said:
I thought that all nexus devices where unlocked developer phones. also i just talked to metroPCS and they did say hardware wise any cdma ohone will work and so will the LTE but, there might be a problem with software incompatibilities. but if that is true i would think our fellow xda members would figure out how to fix any software problems
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It won't be unlocked from the factory because 1) its CDMA/LTE with VZW specific bands, and 2) its being made to order for Verizon to subsidize it (which means they will SURELY dictate that its locked).
The Nexus devices have historically been sold full price without a carrier subsidy (and therefore are unlocked) because google wants them to be used anywhere in the world with any SIM card. This is different because there are carriers involved from the start (and the device is CDMA).
Also, I'm pretty sure the LTE won't be interoperable between the two carriers. Verizon will have their own proprietary network stack for use with their LTE service, and it uses slightly different frequencies from other carriers for LTE, specifically so that their devices won't be interoperable with other networks. They want you to buy a VZW phone and stay on VZW (dirty play, but that's how they roll).
Hope that clarifies things a little bit. Now no one knows for sure how much of the issues can be fixed with new firmware flashes, so I guess we'll see when it comes out. For example I know a lot of people use Sprint and Verizon phones with different custom firmware to run on networks like Virgin, Boost, and Cricket in order to cut down the monthly bill.

martonikaj said:
It won't be unlocked from the factory because 1) its CDMA/LTE with VZW specific bands, and 2) its being made to order for Verizon to subsidize it (which means they will SURELY dictate that its locked).
The Nexus devices have historically been sold full price without a carrier subsidy (and therefore are unlocked) because google wants them to be used anywhere in the world with any SIM card. This is different because there are carriers involved from the start (and the device is CDMA).
Also, I'm pretty sure the LTE won't be interoperable between the two carriers. Verizon will have their own proprietary network stack for use with their LTE service, and it uses slightly different frequencies from other carriers for LTE, specifically so that their devices won't be interoperable with other networks. They want you to buy a VZW phone and stay on VZW (dirty play, but that's how they roll).
Hope that clarifies things a little bit. Now no one knows for sure how much of the issues can be fixed with new firmware flashes, so I guess we'll see when it comes out. For example I know a lot of people use Sprint and Verizon phones with different custom firmware to run on networks like Virgin, Boost, and Cricket in order to cut down the monthly bill.
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well lets just hope some one out there can figure out how to make a phone like this run on a reasonabale priced carrier well other than t-mobile

Unlocking T-Mobile for AT&T service

hi everyone:
I have been looking via numerous thread online on many Android forums especially here and have been unsuccessful for the past 2 days now. So I figured I would need to create a thread and finally give in and ask for some help. I have a T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy 3 phone and I need to unlock it so that it will work on my AT&T service. Now i understand about rooting the phone and being able to play with themes etc, but its not that great if I can't use the phone itself.
Now without coming up with some kind of answer I must have watched about 40 youtube video's hoping to find out some kind of information. Mostly what I got out of it was numerous website that offer unlocking for phones at a certain price.
unlockcodesource(.)com
unlock2go(.)com
mobileunlockcodes(.)co.uk
Has anyone ever used any of these website or can someone give me some good advise on how I can get this phone unlocked please/
~Aqua

I think the toolkit stickied in the development forum has an option to SIM unlock the GS3. I have not tried this, and do not know if it works, but if the option is there, you might want to give it a shot.

If you're on contract with t mobile and your account is in good standing with them. Call them tell them you're going over seas and need to unlock your phone so you can use it. They will send you unlock code ... then pop in an att sim card and it will prompt you to enter the unlock code t Mobil gave you. Done
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If you're on contract with t mobile and your account is in good standing with them. Call them tell them you're going over seas and need to unlock your phone so you can use it. They will send you unlock code ... then pop in an att sim card and it will prompt you to enter the unlock code t Mobil gave you. Done
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OK thank you. I followed your instructions and they said it would take up to maybe 24 hrs for the phone to be unlocked. If it isn't unlocked than she said to call back with the conformation number she gave me. If that doesn't work than they would have to give Samsung my info and could take up to 14 days. She said when you buy phones almost all stands and corp stores have already unlocked phones.
she also said it would be auto unlocked for good. Can they lock the phone back up once it is be unlocked?
~Aqua
edited: Once I have it unlocked ( if all goes good ) do i use the same APN settings that I needed to put into the phone in order for my phone to work on the AT&T network as I did with my S2 that I got unlocked ?

Don't they use different frequencies for HSPA+
You would be relegated to edge speeds, correct me if I'm wrong

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five40 said:
Don't they use different frequencies for HSPA+
You would be relegated to edge speeds, correct me if I'm wrong
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I really don't know. That would be a great question if someone would be nice enough to help me with this information? Again i have a T mobile S3 hopefully its unlocked would I be losing speeds by being on the AT&T network?
thanks
~Aqua

AquaWater said:
I really don't know. That would be a great question if someone would be nice enough to help me with this information? Again i have a T mobile S3 hopefully its unlocked would I be losing speeds by being on the AT&T network?
thanks
~Aqua
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The T-Mobile S3 has the 850/1900 3G bands so it will work on AT&T's 3G network. It will not get LTE though.
You can unlock either by paying for a code from the various resellers online or requesting an unlock code from T-Mobile if you have an account in good standing with them. If you can't get the code from T-Mobile I suggest searching 'T999 unlock' on eBay and you'll find some good options.

The tmobile galaxy s3 will work on the ATnT HSPA+21 frequency. Same frequency the International version runs on for that network.
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Edge network and 3/4G Question
I found an excellent place so far on eBay for buying unlock codes. they have almost 3800 sells with a 99% positive feedback. Great customer service. The guy answered numerous questions of mine and made sure i did everything correctly. Payment was $24.95 US, so hopefullly everything will go good.
He was talking about being on something called an " Edge " network which is a little slower, but he said you won't notice a difference between your unlocked S2 and the unlocked S3 now. Right now my S2 says I have 3G service when I use it. I dont understand how i had a inspire4G, what is the 4G for if AT&T only gives you 3G service? And where I am in United States I should have 4G service no matter what. I'm confused on that.,

AquaWater said:
I found an excellent place so far on eBay for buying unlock codes. they have almost 3800 sells with a 99% positive feedback. Great customer service. The guy answered numerous questions of mine and made sure i did everything correctly. Payment was $24.95 US, so hopefullly everything will go good.
He was talking about being on something called an " Edge " network which is a little slower, but he said you won't notice a difference between your unlocked S2 and the unlocked S3 now. Right now my S2 says I have 3G service when I use it. I dont understand how i had a inspire4G, what is the 4G for if AT&T only gives you 3G service? And where I am in United States I should have 4G service no matter what. I'm confused on that.,
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Edge is 2G speeds, which are substantially slower than 3G speeds. IMHO, 3G speeds are livable, 2G/Edge is not.
Different phones have different radios which work on different frequencies. Some phones are not compatible with other services at all, and some will work on other carriers but often not at optimal speeds.

Darmokk said:
Edge is 2G speeds, which are substantially slower than 3G speeds. IMHO, 3G speeds are livable, 2G/Edge is not.
Different phones have different radios which work on different frequencies. Some phones are not compatible with other services at all, and some will work on other carriers but often not at optimal speeds.
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So than why would someone suggest that I would get "edge" instead of what i have now? I'm getting 3G now with my T-Mobile S2 unlocked on AT&T, but now I'm going to have an unlocked S3, why wouldn't it be the same?

Because the radios in the devices are different.
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So than why would someone suggest that I would get "edge" instead of what i have now?
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Because he/she doesn't know what he/she is talking about. You will be fine with a T-Mobile S3 on AT&T.

That's what I said earlier in not so many words.
Voice willl work fine you will not see HSPA+ speeds on At&t with a T-Mobile Galaxy SIII.
If the T-Mobile SIII has the hardware capability to support the At&t HSPA+ bands you would need modified radio software to unlock this ability.
I believe this was done on the Galaxy Note to tun on T-Mobile HSPA+ network before it was officially launched on T-Mobile.
kmdub I believe your the one that's wrong.

five40 said:
That's what I said earlier in not so many words.
Voice willl work fine you will not see HSPA+ speeds on At&t with a T-Mobile Galaxy SIII.
If the T-Mobile SIII has the hardware capability to support the At&t HSPA+ bands you would need modified radio software to unlock this ability.
I believe this was done on the Galaxy Note to tun on T-Mobile HSPA+ network before it was officially launched on T-Mobile.
kmdub I believe your the one that's wrong.
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I unlocked my t999 and am using an att straight talk sim getting HSPA speeds. Going to switch back to tmobile prepay because it is way faster than att HSPA with better latency. Although coverage may be lacking, i may just switch to an att ST sim.
To answer your question, a Tmobile S3 will work on ATT HSPA+ network with the HSPA+ Speeds of up to 6-7mbps in NYC area. The average I've been getting is around 2-3.5 mbps. With the tmobile prepay sim I have, it's usually around 2-18mbps down in NYC area.
The T-mobile S3 will not work on the ATT LTE network because it lacks that radio (or so they say for now); there have been other threads suspecting it's just a matter of flashing the right radio to "turn on" the ATT LTE radio. However, if all you want is HSPA+ speeds, rest assured it will work fine.
The ATT S3 is lacking the AWS bands for TMobile so it will not get the HSPA+ on Tmobile.
Best regards.

radio issue
First off, I would like to thank everyone who has been helping me along with my issues with my phone. I appreciate it a lot and I'm picking up more knowledge more and more everyday from you guys and reading heavily on the forums.
if the hardware in the phone doesn't support HSPA+ 1) will i have to root the phone and 2) change the radio? And 3 ) if I change the radio does that mean I would need to install a custom ROM i order for it to work properly?
Also, from one of the post they said "The T-Mobile S3 has the 850/1900 3G bands " - of that is true will than I should be able to have the 3G speeds correct?
I really hope I am not making some people angry, I'm new to this and trying my hardest to understand everything so I don't make mistakes. Please bare with me. Again, thank you so much everyone who has contributed so far. I still have a lot to learn. The reason why is because I just don't want it to work ( I do, want it to work ) but I want to understand why everything is working they way it is and I've over the past almost month have been picking up a lot of knowledge. Can't wait to hear from you guys

kmdub I believe your the one that's wrong.
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No, actually, you are wrong. The T-Mobile S3 does not need any modification to work properly on AT&T's HSPA network. Seems you are confusing something else with frequency. Quit spreading bad information.
OP: Don't worry about it. Some are making this way more complicated than it needs to be. As said before, if you have the T999, you will be fine on AT&T's HSPA network without any modifications (other than an account...lol). Just get the phone SIM-unlocked, pop in the right SIM, you are good to go. Seriously, it is that easy.

Well there it is, I stand corrected!
I had no idea the T-Mobile SIII supports At&t HSPA+ bands.
Is the same true to all T-Mobile HSPA+ phones?

Sorry for any issues, just learning
Hi everyone,
thanks so much for the info. Will the S2 I needed to put in certain APN settings inorder to receive MMS ( picture ) via texts. Do i use the same settings for the Samsung Galaxy 3?

kmdub said:
No, actually, you are wrong. The T-Mobile S3 does not need any modification to work properly on AT&T's HSPA network. Seems you are confusing something else with frequency. Quit spreading bad information.
OP: Don't worry about it. Some are making this way more complicated than it needs to be. As said before, if you have the T999, you will be fine on AT&T's HSPA network without any modifications (other than an account...lol). Just get the phone SIM-unlocked, pop in the right SIM, you are good to go. Seriously, it is that easy.
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I too have learned from this thread

No Data on AT&T for unlocked T-Mobile N2

Hey all, been lurking for a while and found that many of you have unlocked Note 2's running on AT&T. I bought my unlock code and all is well on the voice front, I just can't seem to get data working (not edge, not 3G, not HSPA+, nothing). I've tried the various APN's floating around, I've tried selecting CDMA ALL for the frequency band, and I've selected AT&T and "registered on the network" using the automated feature of the phone itself. Still nothing.
When the AT&T version is released, will I be able to flash the ROM and make it work as if I bought it from them?
Thanks in advance for your help.

Thats weird. I unlocked mine and got tge cingular apn automatically .
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Do you have the right sim and have you got at&t to update their system so it can work? Tell them you have a Note 1.
That's what Indie. I have data (but not LTE)
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Do you have the right sim and have you got at&t to update their system so it can work? Tell them you have a Note 1.
That's what Indie. I have data (but not LTE)
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what are these apn's you speek of fellas?
i am planing on unlocking my note ii and getting it on straight talk att or straight talk hybrid.
so taking sujestions, ideas, would like to get lte working but at least data

ekerbuddyeker said:
Do you have the right sim and have you got at&t to update their system so it can work? Tell them you have a Note 1.
That's what Indie. I have data (but not LTE)
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This is the answer I needed. Thank you! I ended up going to the AT&T store today. They said that for some reason I didn't have a data plan anymore (weird because I traded my iPhone 5 for this phone! They subsidized it.) They couldn't get my IMEI to work in their system so the saleswoman used her own IMEI to get me going.
I had been to the AT&T Store once before to trade my nanosim for a microsim, but the phone wasn't unlocked at the time so I couldn't test it out. They scanned in my phone but I guess it didn't take. All is well now, I have 4G (but not LTE, but it doesn't matter because I'm moving to a non-LTE city in less than a month).
It works perfectly, I put in the APNs from the Galaxy S3 on display that the AT&T Store. Decent speeds, awesome phone. Thanks everyone!

intopieces said:
This is the answer I needed. Thank you! I ended up going to the AT&T store today. They said that for some reason I didn't have a data plan anymore (weird because I traded my iPhone 5 for this phone! They subsidized it.) They couldn't get my IMEI to work in their system so the saleswoman used her own IMEI to get me going.
I had been to the AT&T Store once before to trade my nanosim for a microsim, but the phone wasn't unlocked at the time so I couldn't test it out. They scanned in my phone but I guess it didn't take. All is well now, I have 4G (but not LTE, but it doesn't matter because I'm moving to a non-LTE city in less than a month).
It works perfectly, I put in the APNs from the Galaxy S3 on display that the AT&T Store. Decent speeds, awesome phone. Thanks everyone!
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I wonder what speed you can get on att 4G network with TMO phone if you have tested, one of my buddy has a international version he gets 3 - 6 when did a speed test

Geet said:
I wonder what speed you can get on att 4G network with TMO phone if you have tested, one of my buddy has a international version he gets 3 - 6 when did a speed test
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That's what I get. And honestly, 3-6Mb/s is perfectly fine for me. I'd like to get LTE for the time I'm here but it doesn't bother me that I don't. At some point one has to question that value of 100Mb internet on a 3GB data plan.

LTE is locked as of right now on the tmobile GN2

intopieces said:
Hey all, been lurking for a while and found that many of you have unlocked Note 2's running on AT&T. I bought my unlock code and all is well on the voice front, I just can't seem to get data working (not edge, not 3G, not HSPA+, nothing). I've tried the various APN's floating around, I've tried selecting CDMA ALL for the frequency band, and I've selected AT&T and "registered on the network" using the automated feature of the phone itself. Still nothing.
When the AT&T version is released, will I be able to flash the ROM and make it work as if I bought it from them?
Thanks in advance for your help.
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I know it isn't AT&T but it took a while to get Solavei APN working on my phone. I played with the settings forever with a customer service rep before I finally got it to work. MMS & internet work great now! Can't wait for LTE to launch!

i got my tmo verion unlocked. I purchased a 50/mo at&t go prepaid, and I can see 4G in the status bar.
Hope this helps

Just started a new thread about this...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1971879...then I found this one.

[Q] I am looking to get solavei and would love a few questions answered if possible

I had a few questions since I am tried of sprint and want to get a n7100 on soalvei (tmobile network):
1) how would I know my area is refarmed? ( I live in north miami, fl )
2) is there a site or thread of a large sample of speed tests I can look up for my area on the network compatible with the n7100? The reason i ask is that I am afraid that I won't get reliable high speed (anything over 5Mbit down consistently is my goal).
3) I am on the fence about solavei and was wondering if tmobile has any options to purchase that do not throttle your speeds? I plan to use 20-30gb a month
4) Is there a trusted site that I can purchase an unlocked gsm n7100 that is compatible with the high speed tmobile network? I don't want to spend more than $600 if possible.
5) should I invest in the n7105 (has lte radio) since tmobile merged with metropcs and is rolling out LTE? (or should I wait for the note 3?)
I am completely out of the loop on tmobile news and would appreciate any help on making the switch over.
Thank you all.

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I had a few questions since I am tried of sprint and want to get a n7100 on soalvei (tmobile network):
1) how would I know my area is refarmed? ( I live in north miami, fl )
2) is there a site or thread of a large sample of speed tests I can look up for my area on the network compatible with the n7100? The reason i ask is that I am afraid that I won't get reliable high speed (anything over 5Mbit down consistently is my goal).
3) I am on the fence about solavei and was wondering if tmobile has any options to purchase that do not throttle your speeds? I plan to use 20-30gb a month
4) Is there a trusted site that I can purchase an unlocked gsm n7100 that is compatible with the high speed tmobile network? I don't want to spend more than $600 if possible.
5) should I invest in the n7105 (has lte radio) since tmobile merged with metropcs and is rolling out LTE? (or should I wait for the note 3?)
I am completely out of the loop on tmobile news and would appreciate any help on making the switch over.
Thank you all.
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I have been using Solavei since early September and I love it. Like you I came from Sprint (12 years!) and grew to hate them. I haven't really tried selling it much, was mostly interested in the price and plan. However just out of the occasional conversation I've already signed up 6 people which puts me at $40 a month, making my effective bill $9 a month. That's a bargain in my book!
There is a site with a map that is showing where the refarmed areas are www.airportal.de
As for throttling, I consider myself a very heavy user and rarely break 3GB's of data, I can't imagine using 20 to 30 and even any possible unthrottled plans you might find yourself having your account cancelled for that much data.
Unless you can confirm you are in a refarmed area I'd stick with the T-Mo branded Note 2.

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I have been using Solavei since early September and I love it. Like you I came from Sprint (12 years!) and grew to hate them. I haven't really tried selling it much, was mostly interested in the price and plan. However just out of the occasional conversation I've already signed up 6 people which puts me at $40 a month, making my effective bill $9 a month. That's a bargain in my book!
There is a site with a map that is showing where the refarmed areas are www.airportal.de
As for throttling, I consider myself a very heavy user and rarely break 3GB's of data, I can't imagine using 20 to 30 and even any possible unthrottled plans you might find yourself having your account cancelled for that much data.
Unless you can confirm you are in a refarmed area I'd stick with the T-Mo branded Note 2.
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When I check my IMEI on solavei, it says "sorry! your phone isn't compatible with Solavei Mobile Service" I just unlocked it, does it take some time?

Jinra321 said:
When I check my IMEI on solavei, it says "sorry! your phone isn't compatible with Solavei Mobile Service" I just unlocked it, does it take some time?
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Their IMEI checker doesn't check whether a phone is unlocked or not, it's just checking the number against a small database of known compatible phones. I have the TMO GN2 and it works fine with some caveats. Like everyone else with the TMO note2 I couldn't use the wifi hotspot without rooting and the APN settings for Solavei and the GN2 are slightly different than other Android phones and it took some experimentation on my part to get them correct so that MMS worked.
Beyond that if the phone has GSM and is unlocked it will work subject to potential speed issues for non TMO phones (except Blackberry).

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Their IMEI checker doesn't check whether a phone is unlocked or not, it's just checking the number against a small database of known compatible phones. I have the TMO GN2 and it works fine with some caveats. Like everyone else with the TMO note2 I couldn't use the wifi hotspot without rooting and the APN settings for Solavei and the GN2 are slightly different than other Android phones and it took some experimentation on my part to get them correct so that MMS worked.
Beyond that if the phone has GSM and is unlocked it will work subject to potential speed issues for non TMO phones (except Blackberry).
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Hmm, how am I suppose to get a SIM? Would I have to use a dummy phone to register with solavei?

Jinra321 said:
Hmm, how am I suppose to get a SIM? Would I have to use a dummy phone to register with solavei?
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I just grabbed the IMEI for a phone I knew would work and had the right sized SIM. The IMEI used to confirm the phone is not at all tied to the account and is only used to size the SIM and match to their database. Once you receive your SIM you can just activate and go.
For that matter I have bulk packs of Solavei SIM's and could just send you one and register you if you don't already have a sponsor, or find someone local who has SIM's in stock.

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I just grabbed the IMEI for a phone I knew would work and had the right sized SIM. The IMEI used to confirm the phone is not at all tied to the account and is only used to size the SIM and match to their database. Once you receive your SIM you can just activate and go.
For that matter I have bulk packs of Solavei SIM's and could just send you one and register you if you don't already have a sponsor, or find someone local who has SIM's in stock.
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I did the same thing, my sponsor let me use his IMEI just to get the sim, and then once we liked the service, my wife used his sim for her own note 2.
As for question number 3, they do have a plan that doesn't have any cap, but I believe it's $89 per month.

mrchris1234 said:
I have been using Solavei since early September and I love it. Like you I came from Sprint (12 years!) and grew to hate them. I haven't really tried selling it much, was mostly interested in the price and plan. However just out of the occasional conversation I've already signed up 6 people which puts me at $40 a month, making my effective bill $9 a month. That's a bargain in my book!
There is a site with a map that is showing where the refarmed areas are www.airportal.de
As for throttling, I consider myself a very heavy user and rarely break 3GB's of data, I can't imagine using 20 to 30 and even any possible unthrottled plans you might find yourself having your account cancelled for that much data.
Unless you can confirm you are in a refarmed area I'd stick with the T-Mo branded Note 2.
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Awesome, I am glad you like it. I was hoping to use my phone to download .nzb movies while on the go and use it as my main internet line via tethering. That is where I came up with the 20-30 gb figure.
Would solavei throttle me or block my account if I use that much data?

Solavei gives you 4gb 4g speed than throttle you to 2g
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jacky37 said:
Solavei gives you 4gb 4g speed than throttle you to 2g
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dang. welp.. looks like I will be sticking with sprint

mitul2288 said:
dang. welp.. looks like I will be sticking with sprint
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Doesn't sprint throttle as well? In this part of TN sprint coverage is plain garbage. Then again, I don't think I have ever lived in a good sprint coverage area.
T-Mobile seems to have the only truly unlimited plan that isn't throttled. I just don't think it's worth $89 a month. But I also pay only $34 per month for a 10 mb fiber line to the house. Ymmv.
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Doesn't sprint throttle as well? In this part of TN sprint coverage is plain garbage. Then again, I don't think I have ever lived in a good sprint coverage area.
T-Mobile seems to have the only truly unlimited plan that isn't throttled. I just don't think it's worth $89 a month. But I also pay only $34 per month for a 10 mb fiber line to the house. Ymmv.
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Nope, sprint doesn't throttle at all, although it's hard to find a place with LTE or WiMAX which means, you'll be stuck on their 3G at best.

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Their IMEI checker doesn't check whether a phone is unlocked or not, it's just checking the number against a small database of known compatible phones. I have the TMO GN2 and it works fine with some caveats. Like everyone else with the TMO note2 I couldn't use the wifi hotspot without rooting and the APN settings for Solavei and the GN2 are slightly different than other Android phones and it took some experimentation on my part to get them correct so that MMS worked.
Beyond that if the phone has GSM and is unlocked it will work subject to potential speed issues for non TMO phones (except Blackberry).
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Chris, how did you get the MMS to send out on the Note 2? ...I've been trying different things, but I'm stuck...

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Chris, how did you get the MMS to send out on the Note 2? ...I've been trying different things, but I'm stuck...
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Got MMS working?

LTE Verizon Version : Can this be used with other providers

Hey whats up! Surprised not more people talking about the release. Samsung is selling the Verizon LTE version. Can I buy this version now and use it with Criketwireless (they use att network) or other? Or we don't know yet? I am not sure how all that works. Thanks

all of my verizon branded devices from the last couple years will allow a non-verizon sim, but will have a big fat triangle exclaimation mark notification that never leaves the notification panel stating that a non-verizon sim card is inserted.
I do not have experience with this device, but I imagine they will do the same thing. @[email protected]

That would annoy me. Thanks if anybody can let me know thanks.
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Picked up the Verizon model SM-T837V , and have it working on AT&T. (Colorado)
Not getting very good speeds, had to set the values for the AT&T apn , maybe i did that wrong. None the less it is working on AT&T shows as HSPA+ network under Sim status

Oh so works on att.. Can I ask where you got it so quickly? Verizon store has it? How much cheers
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SovRoxx said:
Oh so works on att.. Can I ask where you got it so quickly? Verizon store has it? How much cheers
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Verizon store by my house had them. apparently only has the 64gb model.. One thing i noticed it would not check for system updates unless I was on wifi.. if i was on ATT it gave some sort of authentication error when i checked for updates..was worried but then tested under wifi and it had no issue.. I do get a "not Verizon sim " warning that seems to be caused by an app called "Setup Wizard" , which i force stopped and the warning went away... (until reboot of course)
Was 729 $ , I want to replace my ipad pro on ATT with this, I just wonder what other issues I may encounter later using a Verizon tablet on ATT. I wonder would it be better just to leave it on Verizon and pay for both Verizon and Att data plans.. Verizon coverage at my house is horrible so I would rather not switch my cell phone over from att, but the tab would be on wifi at home so......

bannor57 said:
Verizon store by my house had them. apparently only has the 64gb model.. One thing i noticed it would not check for system updates unless I was on wifi.. if i was on ATT it gave some sort of authentication error when i checked for updates..was worried but then tested under wifi and it had no issue.. I do get a "not Verizon sim " warning that seems to be caused by an app called "Setup Wizard" , which i force stopped and the warning went away... (until reboot of course)
Was 729 $ , I want to replace my ipad pro on ATT with this, I just wonder what other issues I may encounter later using a Verizon tablet on ATT. I wonder would it be better just to leave it on Verizon and pay for both Verizon and Att data plans.. Verizon coverage at my house is horrible so I would rather not switch my cell phone over from att, but the tab would be on wifi at home so......
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Hi, are you still only getting hspa speeds?

apascual89 said:
Hi, are you still only getting hspa speeds?
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Took around town with me yesterday and tested a few times, never got over 2 or 3 Mbps on ATT , but testing with the Verizon sim I got 40Mbps ish but that was at the Verizon store it self... I dont know much about bands or even signal strength etc... currently LTE Discovery shows me on HSPA+ -83.0 dBm and my speed test was 1.97 Mbps Down 0.28 Up .
Was going to bring it into the AT&T store today and check again.
the APN I am using
Name: ATT Broadband
APN: Broadband
Proxy: Not set
Port : Not Set
Username: Not Set
Password: Not Set
Server : Not Set
MMSC :Not Set
Multimedia message proxy : Not Set
Multimedia message port : Not Set
MCC : 310
MNC: 410
AUth Type: Not Set
APN type: default,mms,supl,hipri,fota
APN protocol : IPv4/IPv6
APN roaming : IPv4/IPv6
Bearer : Unspecified
Mobile virtual network operator type : None

SovRoxx said:
Hey whats up! Surprised not more people talking about the release. Samsung is selling the Verizon LTE version. Can I buy this version now and use it with Criketwireless (they use att network) or other? Or we don't know yet? I am not sure how all that works. Thanks
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I bought the Verizon model and plugged in my T-Mobile sim card and it worked straight away.
On a side note, I went straight to the APN section expecting to have to manually enter my T-Mobile APN and was pleasantly surprised to see it was already in there along with: Consumer Cellular, Family Mobile, LYCA, MetroPCS, Multibrand, Project Fi, Red Pocket, Republic, Ting, Tracfone, Ulta, Vodafone & Walmart.
So I would guess it has all of the cellular radio frequencies onboard.

Airfoil said:
I bought the Verizon model and plugged in my T-Mobile sim card and it worked straight away.
On a side note, I went straight to the APN section expecting to have to manually enter my T-Mobile APN and was pleasantly surprised to see it was already in there along with: Consumer Cellular, Family Mobile, LYCA, MetroPCS, Multibrand, Project Fi, Red Pocket, Republic, Ting, Tracfone, Ulta, Vodafone & Walmart.
So I would guess it has all of the cellular radio frequencies onboard.
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hello i'm in canada and planning to get the verizon version . but do it has the dial pad as the international and if yes have you tried to change the csc to remove verizon bloatware?

Cheers guys
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Verizon store by my house had them. apparently only has the 64gb model.. One thing i noticed it would not check for system updates unless I was on wifi.. if i was on ATT it gave some sort of authentication error when i checked for updates..was worried but then tested under wifi and it had no issue.. I do get a "not Verizon sim " warning that seems to be caused by an app called "Setup Wizard" , which i force stopped and the warning went away... (until reboot of course)
Was 729 $ , I want to replace my ipad pro on ATT with this, I just wonder what other issues I may encounter later using a Verizon tablet on ATT. I wonder would it be better just to leave it on Verizon and pay for both Verizon and Att data plans.. Verizon coverage at my house is horrible so I would rather not switch my cell phone over from att, but the tab would be on wifi at home so......
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Thanks! Well... Verizon store had one here but no keyboard case... So I found I couldn't get the half off deal if one doesn't check out both units at the same time. So I went to best buy for wifi... Got a grey version. Like it so far.... Screen is great for movies, maybe wish was a bit more snappy to navigate around like i can with my s7 edge lol... But that may an illusion as the screen is bigger on s4 taking longer to reach around the screen with hands. Still less tiring than ipad for me with all the hand sweeps when busy.
Also little disappointed in multitasking.. Wish was a floating app u can sweep from the side over an active app pair so u can easily reference 3 apps fast.. Can kinda do that on ipad i think.. Ill figure it out! And many apps i use cant multitask pair which annoying not samsung fought I guess. Still worth it
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On T-Mobile
Airfoil said:
I bought the Verizon model and plugged in my T-Mobile sim card and it worked straight away.
On a side note, I went straight to the APN section expecting to have to manually enter my T-Mobile APN and was pleasantly surprised to see it was already in there along with: Consumer Cellular, Family Mobile, LYCA, MetroPCS, Multibrand, Project Fi, Red Pocket, Republic, Ting, Tracfone, Ulta, Vodafone & Walmart.
So I would guess it has all of the cellular radio frequencies onboard.
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What kind of speeds are you getting with it on T-Mobile? Are you getting good LTE speeds? I want to get one, but am on T-Mobile (and not switching). Sprint launched their version today, but am I not confident T-Mobile will get one. There was only one CNET article that stated T-Mobile would get it.
Thanks!

KazimierzW said:
What kind of speeds are you getting with it on T-Mobile? Are you getting good LTE speeds? I want to get one, but am on T-Mobile (and not switching). Sprint launched their version today, but am I not confident T-Mobile will get one. There was only one CNET article that stated T-Mobile would get it.
Thanks!
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I live in a bad spot for speed testing, at my house I get around 10 Mbps up/down. I just drove up the street a mile or so and checked there and got ~30 Mbps up/down. As I roam around tomorrow I'll do some additional speed tests and see how it performs.
Update: I ran a few speed tests this morning, I was seeing download speeds up to 75 Mbps, and Uploads up to 30 Mbps on the T-Mobile sim.

SovRoxx said:
Hey whats up! Surprised not more people talking about the release. Samsung is selling the Verizon LTE version. Can I buy this version now and use it with Criketwireless (they use att network) or other? Or we don't know yet? I am not sure how all that works. Thanks
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I wouldn't even consider buying a verizon version when the Korean model has LTE, 6gb ram, 256gb storage, phone capability, and is world unlocked with no bloatware. I bought one and it's the best thing since sliced bread! ebay is selling them like hot cakes. Be careful to only get the non cell provider version, you don't want korean bloatware either. It exists! https://www.samsung.com/sec/tablets/galaxy-tabs4-t835/SM-T835NZKNKOO/

gradynyc said:
I wouldn't even consider buying a verizon version when the Korean model has LTE, 6gb ram, 256gb storage, phone capability, and is world unlocked with no bloatware. I bought one and it's the best thing since sliced bread! ebay is selling them like hot cakes. Be careful to only get the non cell provider version, you don't want korean bloatware either. It exists! https://www.samsung.com/sec/tablets/galaxy-tabs4-t835/SM-T835NZKNKOO/
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Hey GradyNYC!
I had initially wanted a 256GB LTE version until I saw that Verizon only had 64GB. I didn't realize they existed. Would you mind letting me know who you ordered from and how much customs duty you paid?
Thanks!

gradynyc said:
I wouldn't even consider buying a verizon version when the Korean model has LTE, 6gb ram, 256gb storage, phone capability, and is world unlocked with no bloatware. I bought one and it's the best thing since sliced bread! ebay is selling them like hot cakes. Be careful to only get the non cell provider version, you don't want korean bloatware either. It exists! https://www.samsung.com/sec/tablets/galaxy-tabs4-t835/SM-T835NZKNKOO/
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Wow cool! Yea I been using the 64gig for 14 days now. Wish I knew about this one! How much can you get it for all said and done?

SovRoxx said:
Wow cool! Yea I been using the 64gig for 14 days now. Wish I knew about this one! How much can you get it for all said and done?
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It's about a grand. They are going for $960 or so, then shipping. If you figure getting 64G LTE for About $750 in the US and the 256G WiFi version is $100 more than the 64G WiFI version, then you come to $850. The Korean versions have 6G RAM, so really, the price difference isn't out of the realm of reality. It is pricey to begin with. I'm figuring the added costs might be offset for me by the increased internal storage and memory benefits.

KazimierzW said:
It's about a grand. They are going for $960 or so, then shipping. If you figure getting 64G LTE for About $750 in the US and the 256G WiFi version is $100 more than the 64G WiFI version, then you come to $850. The Korean versions have 6G RAM, so really, the price difference isn't out of the realm of reality. It is pricey to begin with. I'm figuring the added costs might be offset for me by the increased internal storage and memory benefits.
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I tried the s4 64gb wifi version for 2 weeks and I had minor performance complaints and I had to weigh in if I was being too picky or not. I haven't had a tablet in years and kind of expected it to respond super snappy like my s7 edge. It doesn't ! Example, you don't have issues with this website even on the s4 with the menus and such? I think there is a small delay as the s4 needs time to load? sometimes? compared. I also sense s4 doesn't respond to super touch sensitivity compared to a cell phone?
I'd like a review between the 4 and 6gb model.

Yorgo1982 said:
hello i'm in canada and planning to get the verizon version . but do it has the dial pad as the international and if yes have you tried to change the csc to remove verizon bloatware?
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It does not have any dial pad. I think you're asking if it has the voice radios to use like a regular cellphone. I would guess NO as I've never seen that on a US model since the original Galaxy Tab (7inch), and that one required root and updated modem drivers to work.
For international. I've not seen it since the Tab S2. (Though the post above mentions that the Korean version does, pictures do not have earpiece speaker though)
As for bloatware, it is pretty light on bloat. Honestly, more Samsung bloat than Verizon bloat. I didn't csc, but I did promptly disable the MyVerizon app, Verizon security & privacy, samsung email & cloud, google gmail (I use google inbox).

I have never had the 4gb version, only the 6gb version. I do however have the note9 and the 6gb version tablet. They are at the very least equal in speed. I love the tablet and see no lag whatsoever. If I knew what i know now, I would have only bought the tablet. There are practical applications for the phone only; like size, but phone calls are crisp (tmobile) on the tablet. I have not taken it out of the keyboard case since day one. I have a pretty powerful windows computer with 16gb of ram and it has not been getting any use since I took this tablet out of the box. Everyone in my house is trying to get their hands on it. I bought a bluetooth mouse. It is a computer now, and a very fast one. If i hadn't turned in my note5 and tied to 2 years of credits. I would sell the note 9.