[Q] How to output to TV? - Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A

I've been trying to figure out how to mirror my Nexus 7's display to my standard TV. I believe I need a composite cable to do this. Is there any way I can directly output from the Nexus 7 to composite? Or do I have to go Nexus 7 > HDMI > HDMI to Composite Converter > TV? I'm just searching around for the cheapest possible solution, thanks!

Android Attack said:
I've been trying to figure out how to mirror my Nexus 7's display to my standard TV. I believe I need a composite cable to do this. Is there any way I can directly output from the Nexus 7 to composite? Or do I have to go Nexus 7 > HDMI > HDMI to Composite Converter > TV? I'm just searching around for the cheapest possible solution, thanks!
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That's a mess lol, so many adaptors, anyway for getting hdmi signal from the nexus 7 you would use a Slimport Adaptor like this, or you can use the official Slimport brand adaptor for 15 bucks more, the

Sevenarth said:
That's a mess lol, so many adaptors, anyway for getting hdmi signal from the nexus 7 you would use a Slimport Adaptor like this, or you can use the official Slimport brand adaptor for 15 bucks more, the
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Well, I'm searching for a method that does not involve HDMI. That will be most cost efficient and have less cables. I don't have an HDTV so I need a composite cable. Thanks!

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Android Attack said:
Well, I'm searching for a method that does not involve HDMI. That will be most cost efficient and have less cables. I don't have an HDTV so I need a composite cable. Thanks!
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Yeah i know what are you trying to do, but actually the only way to get wired audio/video signal is to use the slimport adaptor. (With wireless you would use Miracast but this isn't your case) So in your case you must use the slimport, the hdmi to composite adaptor and i think you should be good.

Sevenarth said:
Yeah i know what are you trying to do, but actually the only way to get wired audio/video signal is to use the slimport adaptor. (With wireless you would use Miracast but this isn't your case) So in your case you must use the slimport, the hdmi to composite adaptor and i think you should be good.
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Okay, thanks! If I purchase the Official SlimPort, will I be able to mirror both the Nexus 7 and other Samsung devices? Or just Nexus devices? Thanks.

Android Attack said:
Okay, thanks! If I purchase the Official SlimPort, will I be able to mirror both the Nexus 7 and other Samsung devices? Or just Nexus devices? Thanks.
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It would work fine with every device that support Slimport, newer devices do like LG G2, G Pad 8.3, Nexus 5 and so on. But you should check on the specifications of your devices. Before Slimport productors used to support MHL, which is almost the same but it keeps busy the USB port and on display that doesn't support MHL you should even buy an adapter which even needs external power supply.. if you can see on the Analogix Slimport adaptor you got a microUSB and the HDMI, the first is just for using it as the device one and HDMI for streaming. I was reading that Slimport has some limitations about the length of the HDMI cable, something like that it needs to be not longer than 50 centimeters otherwise you'd encounter problems..
Anyway i think that the Slimport adapter that costs just 15 bucks will be great.

Sevenarth said:
It would work fine with every device that support Slimport, newer devices do like LG G2, G Pad 8.3, Nexus 5 and so on. But you should check on the specifications of your devices. Before Slimport productors used to support MHL, which is almost the same but it keeps busy the USB port and on display that doesn't support MHL you should even buy an adapter which even needs external power supply.. if you can see on the Analogix Slimport adaptor you got a microUSB and the HDMI, the first is just for using it as the device one and HDMI for streaming. I was reading that Slimport has some limitations about the length of the HDMI cable, something like that it needs to be not longer than 50 centimeters otherwise you'd encounter problems..
Anyway i think that the Slimport adapter that costs just 15 bucks will be great.
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Alright, looks like the SlimPort isn't going to work with the Samsung devices. Is there a cheap alternative so I can switch between Nexus 7 and the other devices? Specifically the S3 and S2 (Epic 4G Touch)
Thanks!

Android Attack said:
Alright, looks like the SlimPort isn't going to work with the Samsung devices. Is there a cheap alternative so I can switch between Nexus 7 and the other devices? Specifically the S3 and S2 (Epic 4G Touch)
Thanks!
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I think the only way is to use Wi-Fi Direct/DLNA. If you're gonna cast your screen just for viewing youtube, netflix and stuff like that, you could use the Chromecast, which does that particular job. It can't cast the entire screen but movies, audio (and other DLNA stuff) and compatible apps (you need to see on its webpage) can right now. To cast the entire screen you would need the Miracast technology but i don't know if there are any good dongles on the market that permit to do that as chromecast does. I hope you know what I mean, i'm not a native english speaker
You should take a look at the Chromecast if that can do what you need, or you can see Miracast dongles like this but i can't suggest anything

OK, I'm trying to do the same. I bought a slimport adapter and a HDMI to composite adapter. My N7 works just fine from slimport to HDMI to the TV, but doesn't work when I add the HDMI to composite adapter. However, if I hook my cable box through HDMI to the composite adapter, all works well. So its something from that slimport out of the tablet to the other adapter. What I'm trying to do is get the display mirrored in my van for the kids and the van only has composite inputs. I'm at a loss.

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MHL cable for a normal tv (not a HD one)

I have a normal tv with video in/out ports. Is it possible to connect SGS2 to a normal tv (not a HD one) using the MHL cable? I have seen a video on YouTube where someone has connected the Galaxy S with a cable in 3.5 mm audio port of the mobile to a tv set for a video output. Will this be possible with SG2?
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AS far as i know this is not Possibile in Galaxy S2.
U can connect ur HD TV with HDMI Cable, but not standard TV with 3.5mm Jack.
i Dont know why SAMSUNG hasnt given this feature on GS2, it would be great if that feature was there.
Thanks for your reply. Can I connect to a non HD tv (normal tv) using HDMI/MHL cable?
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i suppose yes.
U can connect to any TV that has a support for HDMI. {not sure though}
I don't think non HD tv's have support for HDMI. Only HD tv's have I suppose.
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jasraja said:
I don't think non HD tv's have support for HDMI. Only HD tv's have I suppose.
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But u could always use a VGA to HDMI adapter & then connect GS2 to the TV
dharmil007 said:
But u could always use a VGA to HDMI adapter & then connect GS2 to the TV
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Thanks I will try this.
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dharmil007 said:
But u could always use a VGA to HDMI adapter & then connect GS2 to the TV
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Really exist?...O_O thanks 4 info....i'm gonna search this...
MHL outputs a digital signal.
Standard TVs that do not have HDMI, with RCA jacks, take in an analog signal.
Something needs to convert the signal, so you need a Digital to Analog Converter, or DAC.
dharmil007 said:
AS far as i know this is not Possibile in Galaxy S2.
U can connect ur HD TV with HDMI Cable, but not standard TV with 3.5mm Jack.
i Dont know why SAMSUNG hasnt given this feature on GS2, it would be great if that feature was there.
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Probably because it would take more hardware to do so. Which increases production costs, and would have made the phone larger. There is a ton of stuff crammed into the phone as it is. It is basically a pocket sized computer.
If you can afford this phone, how can you not afford a TV that has an HDMI input?
I connected the MHL cable to a VISIO 720p television and it didn't work, I suppose that MHL sends 1080i/p signals only and your television must, at least, be able to handle this resolution and rescale it.
Omega Frost said:
I connected the MHL cable to a VISIO 720p television and it didn't work, I suppose that MHL sends 1080i/p signals only and your television must, at least, be able to handle this resolution and rescale it.
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Not true. Any tv with an HDMI input will work. Doesn't have to be 1080i/p. Did you plug in a power source?
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ctomgee said:
Not true. Any tv with an HDMI input will work. Doesn't have to be 1080i/p. Did you plug in a power source?
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Yes, I just got a complete greenish screen. On the other hand all FullHD capable televisions I tested worked perfectly.
Omega Frost said:
Yes, I just got a complete greenish screen. On the other hand all FullHD capable televisions I tested worked perfectly.
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Huh. That's very weird. There shouldn't be an issue with plugging it into a 720p. In fact, I don't think the video output will even be 720p, let alone 1080i/p, unless the output is a video that is that resolution.
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Huh. That's very weird. There shouldn't be an issue with plugging it into a 720p. In fact, I don't think the video output will even be 720p, let alone 1080i/p, unless the output is a video that is that resolution.
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I think either the GS2 or the MHL adapter will upscale the image to 1080 regardless the resolution supported by the TV. But it's in fact weird because HD ready should support at least 1080i.
I have seen mini-USB to composite output cable (audio -left and right seperated- and S-Video output cables) for SGS2 on a shopping site but couldn't remember which one now. So it must be possible.
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I think either the GS2 or the MHL adapter will upscale the image to 1080 regardless the resolution supported by the TV. But it's in fact weird because HD ready should support at least 1080i.
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That could be. I can't test, as it works on I everything own... I don't own a TV or monitor that is less than 1080p.
barisahmet said:
I have seen mini-USB to composite output cable (audio -left and right seperated- and S-Video output cables) for SGS2 on a shopping site but couldn't remember which one now. So it must be possible.
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I have my doubts about this - at least, the part that it was for an SGS2. MHL is a digital signal. S-Video is analog. So either the cable was REALLY expensive, or maybe they were trying to pass off a micro-USB to S-Video cable that it (falsely) works for the SGS2? Or it was actually for an SGS1?
The green screen on MHL/HDMI output happens, because of non HDCP compliant TV. All content that we get out of the USB to HDMI adapter is copy protected (HDCP).
I noticed this while I wanted to connect it to as HDMI to SDI converter. Also no capture card will accept this signal. Only HDCP TV and monitor will work.
I'm trying to figure out now how I can get 1080p desktop and gallery output.
MHL on normal TV
I read HDMI on "normal" TV (not HD) works if you use VGA adaptator.
A person on the forum i saw, gives a links to buy one and it was 40$ (For MHL adaptator + VGA adaptor that you need to input in the MHL)
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I read HDMI on "normal" TV (not HD) works if you use VGA adaptator.
A person on the forum i saw, gives a links to buy one and it was 40$ (For MHL adaptator + VGA adaptor that you need to input in the MHL)
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Link? (I'm just curious)
My point above, is that the standard MHL adapter is only like $15. So it would be an additional cost to get ANOTHER adapter to plug that into a TV without an HDMI input. So $40 for that whole get-up would be more expensive. Less expensive than I thought it would be, but still more.
And based on what erzyk says in post 17, there is no guarantee this would work due to standard TVs not being HDCP compliant. But I'm just speculating.
Someone could buy this $40 mystery cable and test it out, I guess. It's just not gonna be me.
MHL VGA
ctomgee said:
Link? (I'm just curious)
My point above, is that the standard MHL adapter is only like $15. So it would be an additional cost to get ANOTHER adapter to plug that into a TV without an HDMI input. So $40 for that whole get-up would be more expensive. Less expensive than I thought it would be, but still more.
And based on what erzyk says in post 17, there is no guarantee this would work due to standard TVs not being HDCP compliant. But I'm just speculating.
Someone could buy this $40 mystery cable and test it out, I guess. It's just not gonna be me.
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I'm agree with you it's very expensive (and i'm not going to buy this thing for 48$)
Here the link:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Gal...B-VGA-adapter-MHL-hdmi-HDMI-VGA-/320804899833
May be you can found it less expensive (i didn't search, i just saw a person that give the link with this expensive price).

what the heck is slim port hdmi?

it is listed underneath nexus4 spec....
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=nexus_4_16gb
Same question, just noticed it too.
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it is listed underneath nexus4 spec....
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I'm wondering this too. Is it a new name for MHL through the micro USB port or something? I've been through pictures of the Nexus 4 and I don't see any other ports.
slimport
look up analogix slimport. Can't post link since I am a new member
product page
Technology behind SlipPort looks good and promising. Besides it means new type of connector, I like and welcome it.
Read more:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/10/analogix-slim-port-technology-lets-you-connect-your-phone-to-you/
Whitepaper PDF
http://www.analogix.com/pdf/slimport_paper.pdf
Great Scott. I gotta buy another adapter. I just feel like I got appled.
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@rbiter said:
Great Scott. I gotta buy another adapter. I just feel like I got appled.
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No this is an adapter you would buy to ADD functionality that you didn't already have Not quite the same thing...
I like it.
Odd that the Google site says the Nexus 4 uses "SlimPort" technology for HDMI out while the LG Optimus G (on which the Nexus 4 is based) uses a normal USB MHL connector. Seems like an odd thing to switch?
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_optimus_g_e973-4941.php
maajstor said:
Technology behind SlipPort looks good and promising. Besides it means new type of connector, I like and welcome it.
Read more:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/10/analogix-slim-port-technology-lets-you-connect-your-phone-to-you/
Whitepaper PDF
http://www.analogix.com/pdf/slimport_paper.pdf
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doug2311 said:
Odd that the Google site says the Nexus 4 uses "SlimPort" technology for HDMI out while the LG Optimus G (on which the Nexus 4 is based) uses a normal USB MHL connector. Seems like an odd thing to switch?
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_optimus_g_e973-4941.php
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More info here
I guess the advantage is you can still use the USB port to sync etc while hooked up to your HDTV. If the nexus 4 supports usb host (Stick mount on the GN) then maybe you could play movies off a usb drive onto your HDTV using your N4!
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More info here
I guess the advantage is you can still use the USB port to sync etc while hooked up to your HDTV. If the nexus 4 supports usb host (Stick mount on the GN) then maybe you could play movies off a usb drive onto your HDTV using your N4!
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Unless there're two microUSB ports on the Nexus 4, I don't see how you can use that port while it is occupied by this SlimPort. The SlimPort adapter does not look like it has a secondary port on it for USB OTG as well
Only way mirroring and USB OTG can work simultaneously is via Miracast?.
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Unless there're two microUSB ports on the Nexus 4, I don't see how you can use that port while it is occupied by this SlimPort. The SlimPort adapter does not look like it has a secondary port on it for USB OTG as well
Only way mirroring and USB OTG can work simultaneously is via Miracast?.
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I think it is possible to connect a USB device the same time
The picture on amazon US ( can't post link .. grrr) seems to have an additional usb slot !
That is very nice but darn it, the adapter is available only on amazon us ! nowhere else
ragwhos said:
I think it is possible to connect a USB device the same time
The picture on amazon US ( can't post link .. grrr) seems to have an additional usb slot !
That is very nice but darn it, the adapter is available only on amazon us ! nowhere else
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The nexus 4 only has one slot and it works for both.
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This is the first I am reading of SlimPort as well, but it has a couple advantages over MHL from what I can see
- It does not require external power. This was always a PITA with MHL cables, you had to "power" them from another USB port, usually on your TV. With SlimPort it is just a straight-through cable since it needs no extra power. Much more elegant.
- It can not only output HDMI but also DisplayPort and possibly other formats. Not a HUGE use per-se, but there are some monitors that only have DisplayPort nowadays.
All in all, SlimPort seems to be better than MHL... although I too feel a bit "Appled" by having to buy another cable..
Amazon sells the adapter, and it looks to have a microUSB port on it: amazon.com/gp/product/B009UZBLSG
Also, their informational site for SlimPort: slimportconnect.com
slimport to hdmi converter
ragwhos said:
I think it is possible to connect a USB device the same time
The picture on amazon US ( can't post link .. grrr) seems to have an additional usb slot !
That is very nice but darn it, the adapter is available only on amazon us ! nowhere else
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additional usb slot only used for charge,I have tested that。
so can the galaxy nexus use this as well?
Wonder how long till theres a bunch of $1 versions of these on ebay...
No.................................................
No USB Host and display out at the same time
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No.................................................
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The Analogix PDF describing the Slimport chip in the Nexus 4 explicitly states that the USB data and Slimport Video out are mutually exclusive. One or the other, much to my dismay. It DOES support charging, as stated in plenty of documentation. It also supports display out without power. This is something that in my experience (Galaxy Note & MHL) that MHL does not allow.
so anybody got the slimport working? or USB OTG? or miracast?
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The Analogix PDF describing the Slimport chip in the Nexus 4 explicitly states that the USB data and Slimport Video out are mutually exclusive. One or the other, much to my dismay. It DOES support charging, as stated in plenty of documentation. It also supports display out without power. This is something that in my experience (Galaxy Note & MHL) that MHL does not allow.
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What's with all this explanation?
Read carefully, i'm talking about the Galaxy Nexus, you sure the Gnex even have a slimport chip?

Which MHL adapter

I'm wondering which MHL adapter to get
http://www.amazon.com/Skiva-Adapter...d=1359051907&sr=8-3&keywords=mhl+lg+optimus+g
http://www.amazon.com/Menotek-Adapt..._1?ie=UTF8&qid=1359051896&sr=8-1&keywords=MHL
Also, has anyone tested Miracast on this device yet?
Get the cheapest one, there probably isn't any difference between the 2.
Mhl is a Samsung thing ain't it? I would think you would use a slimport like the nexus 4.....
This is the one I bought: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/180895011500...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649#ht_4583wt_1341 (Just search HDMI MHL adapter on eBay). Got it for $4.50 and it works well.
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Mhl is a Samsung thing ain't it? I would think you would use a slimport like the nexus 4.....
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MHL is a standard protocol. Some HDTV and Receivers from Onkyo and Denon are suppporting it it their latest gen products.
Some adaptators support 720p and some can do 1080p.
just a reminder mhl is not supported on any custom rom
Not even on CM10.1?
Has there been any progress made regarding MHL support for custom roms(CM,pacman etc) ?

[Q] Micro USB to HDMI (MHL) Adapter

Has anyone had any luck using an a Micro USB to HDMI adapter?
I am trying to get my adapter working with the Optimus G Pro but having no luck. It does work fine with my Galaxy Note and my brother's Droid Razr Maxx HD. I read an article stating that MHL does not work with this phone yet the specs that are advertised state that the micro USB connection supports MHL.
Any input would be great.
Thanks.
If you're using the mhl adapter, that's the problem. No need for mhl at all.
mgd76 said:
If you're using the mhl adapter, that's the problem. No need for mhl at all.
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What do you mean?
Am I correct in saying that the only way to view your home screen and games on the big screen is to use the miracast device or an MHL adapter? I can already view videos wirelessly through DLNA but I want to do more than just watch media.
Style68 said:
What do you mean?
Am I correct in saying that the only way to view your home screen and games on the big screen is to use the miracast device or an MHL adapter? I can already view videos wirelessly through DLNA but I want to do more than just watch media.
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I'll check when I get home, I wouldn't guess it would be an issue with this phone
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OGPro doesn't support mhl. Straight USB to HDMI is what u need.
MHL adapter won't work. You'll need a SlimPort adapter, which is much more expensive.
Thanks Guys I'll get one and try it out.

Looking for a MHL Cable for Z3C...

I'm looking for an MHL cable which allows:
Full HD hdmi output
Charge the phone while in use
Can still use USB OTG to connect a keyboard/mouse dongle
Is this even possible?
lgrangeia said:
I'm looking for an MHL cable which allows:
Full HD hdmi output
Charge the phone while in use
Can still use USB OTG to connect a keyboard/mouse dongle
Is this even possible?
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/MHL-Micro-U...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Works fine for me.
I don't know about the keyboard part, but that shouldn't be a problem I assume.
This particular one is sold out, but shouldn't be hard to find someone else that sells the same. Only bad part is that the power cable part is short.
Thanks!
Meanwhile I found these:
http://m.ebay.com/itm/271566140891
I'm tempted to buy one, and see if they work.
Im wondering if we can output 1080p since z3c screen is only 720p
I'm amazed with this phone. Just tested a USB Ethernet dongle and it worked flawlessly out of the box.
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lgrangeia said:
Thanks!
Meanwhile I found these:
http://m.ebay.com/itm/271566140891
I'm tempted to buy one, and see if they work.
Im wondering if we can output 1080p since z3c screen is only 720p
I'm amazed with this phone. Just tested a USB Ethernet dongle and it worked flawlessly out of the box.
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z3c can output 4k videos over mhl, phone screen resolution has nothing to do with it
lgrangeia said:
I'm looking for an MHL cable which allows:
Full HD hdmi output
Charge the phone while in use
Can still use USB OTG to connect a keyboard/mouse dongle
Is this even possible?
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If your TV has an MHL port, passive MHL cable and you have an adapter, the extra micro usb on the adapter should be ok for USB OTG.
Sorry, but this a dumb, MHL noob question. Will any old micro-usb MHL adapter work, or do I need one specifically for a Sony phone or something?
Thanks

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