Hi again,
Just about to give up on this tablet when I noticed that it seems to be the battery percentage setting that is causing my charging and discharging issues.
With the setting turned on and the percentage visible, the battery seems to discharge and charge oddly, and also the percentage shown does not reflect the amount shown on the battery icon, or at least it rarely does, but it varies.
With the percentage setting off, the discharge seems much slower and predictable.
If you have a p600, could you possibly try this for me with and without and see if it matches with my findings?
Thanks.
I'm having very odd battery issues myself. I'll give this a try and see if it improves for me.
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I'm having very odd battery issues myself. I'll give this a try and see if it improves for me.
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There's a good guide on here for optimising, it has helped a lot, definitely worth a look :good:
Monkey Chops said:
With the percentage setting off, the discharge seems much slower and predictable.
If you have a p600, could you possibly try this for me with and without and see if it matches with my findings?
Thanks.
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With it on I have noticed............ If I remove charger at 96% next thing I notice battery is at 100% and my battery app charts that jump.
I'm using Battery HD, are you using a battery app also?
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kkretch said:
With it on I have noticed............ If I remove charger at 96% next thing I notice battery is at 100% and my battery app charts that jump.
I'm using Battery HD, are you using a battery app also?
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Thanks for the reply. I'm not using any battery app, just the one that comes with the stock tablet.
I think I did encounter the same thing as you, and also unplugging at 100%, then taking it upstairs and looking and it was 96% or so, and then after a restart, it was 100% again. Very odd, but it doesn't do it for me unless the percentage setting is enabled.
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There's a good guide on here for optimising, it has helped a lot, definitely worth a look :good:
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No i suspect my device might have some deeper issue. I can drain the battery from 100% to 0 in an hour of playing games but if i turn off the note and turn it back on, it'll be back at 60% or whatever it's actual battery level is. I can rinse and repeat and slowly get it down to 0. Either way the battery drains much quicker than it should. It could probably only last 6 hours of screen on time with very light usage. I might need to get motherboard or battery replaced.
I am still hoping that its a software glitch and something like this could fix it.
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No i suspect my device might have some deeper issue. I can drain the battery from 100% to 0 in an hour of playing games but if i turn off the note and turn it back on, it'll be back at 60% or whatever it's actual battery level is. I can rinse and repeat and slowly get it down to 0. Either way the battery drains much quicker than it should. It could probably only last 6 hours of screen on time with very light usage. I might need to get motherboard or battery replaced.
I am still hoping that its a software glitch and something like this could fix it.
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Yeah, mine wasn't that bad, although bad enough. Hopefully you can find a fix without having to send it back.
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No i suspect my device might have some deeper issue. I can drain the battery from 100% to 0 in an hour of playing games but if i turn off the note and turn it back on, it'll be back at 60% or whatever it's actual battery level is. I can rinse and repeat and slowly get it down to 0. Either way the battery drains much quicker than it should. It could probably only last 6 hours of screen on time with very light usage. I might need to get motherboard or battery replaced.
I am still hoping that its a software glitch and something like this could fix it.
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I wonder if the tablet needs a little time to calibrate the battery usage, maybe there is an internal process that has to happen over time?
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kkretch said:
I wonder if the tablet needs a little time to calibrate the battery usage, maybe there is an internal process that has to happen over time?
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I've had it since it was released in october or november and the battery life used to be good and last 10+ hours and probably 5-6 hours while playing games. Not sure what happened in between. It has taken a few very light drops with no visible damage and i did break (bend) a charge with it in the tablet but the charging port seems normal and still works fine.
Just checked with battery % off for 30 mins and battery dropped 4% which is normal.
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I still had crazy battery drops with the percentage turned off. so didn't seem to make any difference for me.
ChrisNee1988 said:
I've had it since it was released in october or november and the battery life used to be good and last 10+ hours and probably 5-6 hours while playing games. Not sure what happened in between. It has taken a few very light drops with no visible damage and i did break (bend) a charge with it in the tablet but the charging port seems normal and still works fine.
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Is your unit still rooted????? If so have you tried removing root and installing the most current factory rom.
Have you seen this post "Longer Battery Life (or How You're Being Robbed!)"
It may help some that are having issue with battery drainage but after seeing your post #36 in the BATTERY posting .... I'm leaning towards a cracked or damaged board from the few drops you talked about.
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kkretch said:
Is your unit still rooted????? If so have you tried removing root and installing the most current factory rom.
Have you seen this post "Longer Battery Life (or How You're Being Robbed!)"
It may help some that are having issue with battery drainage but after seeing your post #36 in the BATTERY posting .... I'm leaning towards a cracked or damaged board from the few drops you talked about.
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I've tried unrooting and odined back to a factory rom, also cleared my SD cards, nothing helped so i'm back to being rooted for now. I've done a lot of the tweaks to improve battery life but whenever I play games, it just drains like crazy even with minimum brightness. The drops were very very minor, like from 1 foot onto carpet and with a case so I doubt that it was the cause but I guess theres always a chance.
I'm still wondering if I should just live with terrible battery life and stay tethered to a charger or risk sending it back to samsung and having them find out it was rooted and overcharging me for repair. And I love the device so much, I don't know if I'd want to give it up for a week or two.
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I've tried unrooting and odined back to a factory rom, also cleared my SD cards, nothing helped so i'm back to being rooted for now. I've done a lot of the tweaks to improve battery life but whenever I play games, it just drains like crazy even with minimum brightness. The drops were very very minor, like from 1 foot onto carpet and with a case so I doubt that it was the cause but I guess theres always a chance.
I'm still wondering if I should just live with terrible battery life and stay tethered to a charger or risk sending it back to samsung and having them find out it was rooted and overcharging me for repair. And I love the device so much, I don't know if I'd want to give it up for a week or two.
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What games do you play that drain the battery the fastest, maybe I have one and can see how it acts on my SM-P600 32gb.
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What games do you play that drain the battery the fastest, maybe I have one and can see how it acts on my SM-P600 32gb.
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Mostly hay day and clash of clans
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Tested again last night and this does seem to be the problem on my unit. Just over 2 hours and the battery icon had barely moved, and looking in the settings, it showed that I had 84% left. Hopefully it wasn't a one off.
Monkey Chops said:
Tested again last night and this does seem to be the problem on my unit. Just over 2 hours and the battery icon had barely moved, and looking in the settings, it showed that I had 84% left. Hopefully it wasn't a one off.
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Knaa mate, the battery icon is bad on mine aswell, I think its just bad design by samsung. Have a look at the pic...
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Knaa mate, the battery icon is bad on mine aswell, I think its just bad design by samsung. Have a look at the pic...
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Thanks :good:
So, I wonder which is correct, the icon or the percentage? If the percentage is right, my tablet is faulty. If the icon is right, it would seem to be ok.
And all these reviews and people that get 10-12 hours, I guess they went by the icon?
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Thanks :good:
So, I wonder which is correct, the icon or the percentage? If the percentage is right, my tablet is faulty. If the icon is right, it would seem to be ok.
And all these reviews and people that get 10-12 hours, I guess they went by the icon?
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The percentage gives a more accurate time I guess.
But people and myself use the "Screen on time" as the usage data.
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Was doing ok last night and then came here and the battery took a dive. Went and grabbed adblock for firefox and ghostery and ghostery was reporting 65 trackers on this site. Also the malware popups were becoming ridiculous and they only happened here. Going to do a factory reset and not come come here tonight, see if that helps anything.
I did do a bit of a search regarding the malware here, and it was being reported as early as last june it seems.
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I've been troubleshooting this problem for weeks now - have never found a cause. I did a hard reset yesterday and have only installed the mainstream necessary apps - nothing sketchy or buggy at all.
My battery life is usually great and when unused drops less than 1% per hour...until suddenly it goes crazy and starts dropping ~10%/hour with NO USE.
I think perhaps something is wrong with my radio as the "mobile network signal" graph in the picture below is always spotty and shows the radio off for significant chunks of time when I know it's on. When these battery plunges start happening, it shows the radio as solid on, as you can see below...and reports the battery drain is from the radio.
A reboot fixes it but it comes back randomly within a day or two...the problem is that I can leave the phone unused for an hour to make dinner and when I pick it up next it has dropped a significant amount!
Hopefully AT&T will exchange it for me tomorrow and I will have better luck...I bought it on June 28th and tomorrow is July 28th...the 30th day, by my count.
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16hrs on battery and still at 43% is pretty darn good if u ask me.
This has happened to me too on stock and AOKP. Just happened again a couple of hours ago.
So I did the exchange 4 days ago. Have not rebooted since then. Thought I was in the clear until this afternoon when the battery started to plummet again...I updated the screenshots in the first post with today's data. Very disappointed and not sure what to do now except to try and do a hardware reset and use the phone stock with no apps for a few days and see what happens...
You are most likely suffering from almost famous "Gsiff_daemon"
Use BetterBatteryStats to see what's draining your battery.
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You are most likely suffering from almost famous "Gsiff_daemon"
Use BetterBatteryStats to see what's draining your battery.
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I have used it extensively. Posted numerous logs and screenshots in the developer's thread and had them examine it...no one could figure anything out.
Tonight I have watched it plummet again. I turned off wifi - it kept dropping. I turned off mobile data, it kept falling just as fast. Lastly I turned on airplane mode and it seems to have leveled off...seems to me the phone radio is the culprit but I have no clue what it could be doing!
(Forgive me if I'm hijacking)
I scooped up my SG3 on Sunday, and noticed almost immediately that my battery drops pretty quickly. I haven't rooted yet, and needless to say haven't flashed anything on it. I'm completely bone stock. I guess I'm wondering the same thing, in that I may need to return to AT&T. I lost as much as 70% in almost 8 hours with moderate to heavy use (Web browsing, textibg, a few calls, etc).
Something else: there is an orange sticker on the box it came un, much like a price tag at a retail store. On the sticker it reads: "REMATE 7.11.12" and has me wondering if this is a refurb they unloaded on me. Any ideas about the battery or this stupid aticker?
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I notice that my battery life seems very unstable - one day it goes 10 plus hours no problem, the next day with the same usage its dying at 8 hours. The phone went bezerk this weekend, to the point of multiple reboots and just turning the thing off since it was unuseable. Factory reset over the weekend, wow ! Battery life is rocking 12 hours easy with heavy use.
The software on this phone is strange to say the least -
Apex_Strider said:
I lost as much as 70% in almost 8 hours with moderate to heavy use (Web browsing, textibg, a few calls, etc).
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Yep, your battery dies after using your phone a lot. Hmmmm.
Igotsanevo4g said:
Yep, your battery dies after using your phone a lot. Hmmmm.
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The reason I say this, is because of the fact I've heard of 12 to 14 hours or more of battery with the same (mostly) moderate to (occasional) heavy use. I understand that usage = battery discharge, I'm not a fool.
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my battery usually only lasts 12 hours with minimal use, the only way i can go more than 8 hours is if i switch on airplane mode while i know im not going to need my phone.. while at work.
TRusselo said:
my battery usually only lasts 12 hours with minimal use, the only way i can go more than 8 hours is if i switch on airplane mode while i know im not going to need my phone.. while at work.
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So perhaps I'm worrying over nothing (hopefully). I have been doing full charge to full discharge cycles and charging once it shuts down to "gel" or "season" the battery. But, there still remains the question of what the "REMATE" sticker is all about. It clearly has a date printed on it, which strikes me as odd...
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So check out this graph...update of the earlier one.
-turned off wifi - plummet continued.
-turned off mobile data - plummet continued.
-turned on airplane mode to turn off the radio - battery stabilized. You can see the plateau towards the end.
-turned off airplane mode - plummet resumed as you can see.
Any conclusions I can take from this? It seems like it's the phone radio/standby and not apps...
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Apex_Strider said:
The reason I say this, is because of the fact I've heard of 12 to 14 hours or more of battery with the same (mostly) moderate to (occasional) heavy use. I understand that usage = battery discharge, I'm not a fool.
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Of course but battery loss is a corollary response to usage. Who made the rules on what moderate or heavy usage is? Besides other factors like strength of signal, etc.
That said I personally average 10-12 hours with 4hrs of screen on time.
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jeffreii said:
So check out this graph...update of the earlier one.
-turned off wifi - plummet continued.
-turned off mobile data - plummet continued.
-turned on airplane mode to turn off the radio - battery stabilized. You can see the plateau towards the end.
-turned off airplane mode - plummet resumed as you can see.
Any conclusions I can take from this? It seems like it's the phone radio/standby and not apps...
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Didn't see this mentioned, the stock rom had a cell standby bug where it drops by 32(whatever the measurement is) instead of what's supposed to be 3.2. This has effected me before and there are fixes.
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TRusselo said:
my battery usually only lasts 12 hours with minimal use, the only way i can go more than 8 hours is if i switch on airplane mode while i know im not going to need my phone.. while at work.
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Juice Defender Ultimate works great for me at work. Shuts off my data radio while screen is locked.
The location for wifi(allowing it to control wifi) is a little funky so I stopped using it(and suffered a little in the beginning because i kept forgetting to turn off wifi at night)
You can see how much my phone goes into deep sleep mode - This shows last night when I went to bed
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This is my battery graph - note that sharp drop was last night when I was installing the Google Wallet fix and the dev had an issue with the update. Took me a little while to figure it out as you can see.
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Didn't see this mentioned, the stock rom had a cell standby bug where it drops by 32(whatever the measurement is) instead of what's supposed to be 3.2. This has effected me before and there are fixes.
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That doesn't explain why the actual battery it dropping so fast. I suppose it could skew the "reason" the system gives for the battery drop...but it's further proven by the fact that the only way to stop the drop is to turn off the radio - even turning off mobile data alone does not stop it at all.
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Juice Defender Ultimate works great for me at work. Shuts off my data radio while screen is locked.
The location for wifi(allowing it to control wifi) is a little funky so I stopped using it(and suffered a little in the beginning because i kept forgetting to turn off wifi at night)
You can see how much my phone goes into deep sleep mode - This shows last night when I went to bed
This is my battery graph - note that sharp drop was last night when I was installing the Google Wallet fix and the dev had an issue with the update. Took me a little while to figure it out as you can see.
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Your sharp drop is correlated to heavy screen on time. Mine is correlated to nothing...just sitting there with the screen off and nothing happening that I can tell.
I reported this problem back in June. This same exact thing happens to mine. Normally the battery is awesome, but sometimes it starts discharging at a crazy rate at which point I restart thee phone to fix it.
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torred said:
You are most likely suffering from almost famous "Gsiff_daemon"
Use BetterBatteryStats to see what's draining your battery.
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That's definitely my problem. When gsiff_daemon hasn't gone crazy the battery life is very good. I've only had the phone 3 days now and on the second found the battery discharging quickly when the phone was in standby (like the OP). I diagnosed this to be caused by gsiff_daemon. Seems to happen after the phone stops responding to input then does a warm restart. I only found one thread on this issue on one of the other S3 forums at XDA (TMo or global?)
Is there any sign of a fix for this? This is making an otherwise excellent phone horrible. I tried to relate this problem to Samsung through their support site, but just got a generic robot answer. Samsung's support site appears to be useless. Is there any indication Samsung is even aware of these problems?
I use System Tuner to check for gsiff_daemon going nuts. I normally notice it because my phone gets hot. If you use the Task Mgr from System Tuner and turn on display of kernel processes, it will pop right to the top if that's your problem.
The easiest way to deal with the problem when you notice it is to kill the process with System Tuner. It will start up again, but will not longer pin your CPU. A restart also works, but takes longer (and uses more battery).
You might also want to set up the Watchdog app to notify you when gsiff_daemon goes nuts.
I noticed you posted BBS logs, but gsiff_daemon will show up in Process, which doesn't appear to be logged (at least it isn't in the log in just dumped from my BBS).
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I noticed today that my phone connected to the computer's USB wasn't gaining any battery this morning. Unplugged I am losing about a percentage every few minutes, quite excessive. I recall that there was an update to AllShare today and looking into it "Media" is my top couplet in "Use details" using 55%+ battery. I am trying to track down the app or setting to fix this battery drain.
Going into Allshare Cast I can turn it off in settings, but when I go back in its right back on.
Under "Media" Included Packages are as follows:
Downloads
DRM Protected Content Storage
Downloads
com.sec.android.providers.downloads
Media Storage
Does anyone have any clues or suggestions to track down the offender?
I should also note that I do not have any "DRM Protected Media" on the device nor do I have any media players active.
I would look into uninstalling the update, it seems the beginning of your issue
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I have tried uninstalling everything AllShare, force stopping the "Media" under the battery only to have it restart on its own.
I guess I will try reformatting my SD card.
It is quite warm around the reader.
I had the same problem and reformatted the sdcard fixed it
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I got the allshare update this morning as well, and no issues so far.
Just do a cache clearing and see if that helps.
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I had this same issue. It turned out to be a bad SD card. Reformatting didn't stop the battery drain.
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jzh797s said:
I noticed today that my phone connected to the computer's USB wasn't gaining any battery this morning. Unplugged I am losing about a percentage every few minutes, quite excessive. I recall that there was an update to AllShare today and looking into it "Media" is my top couplet in "Use details" using 55%+ battery. I am trying to track down the app or setting to fix this battery drain.
Going into Allshare Cast I can turn it off in settings, but when I go back in its right back on.
Under "Media" Included Packages are as follows:
Downloads
DRM Protected Content Storage
Downloads
com.sec.android.providers.downloads
Media Storage
Does anyone have any clues or suggestions to track down the offender?
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I have been losing a % a min since I got my phone! I am stock everything. ..I can't tell what is the cause either. I came from an epic 4g and its battery has always sucked do I was just used to bad battery life but then I get on these boards and folks are talking about how great their Bay life is. ..I just chalked it up to my not being rooted! Since I am not interested in rooting at all, should I just plan to continue taking my charger everywhere I go? Any suggestions?
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I have been losing a % a min since I got my phone! I am stock everything. ..I can't tell what is the cause either. I came from an epic 4g and its battery has always sucked do I was just used to bad battery life but then I get on these boards and folks are talking about how great their Bay life is. ..I just chalked it up to my not being rooted! Since I am not interested in rooting at all, should I just plan to continue taking my charger everywhere I go? Any suggestions?
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Something is wrong. Totally stock this thing has awesome battery life.
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Tbonekilla said:
Something is wrong. Totally stock this thing has awesome battery life.
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Can u give me some pointers on what my settings should look like? I haven't really changed anything since I got my gn2 on launch day!
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Can u give me some pointers on what my settings should look like? I haven't really changed anything since I got my gn2 on launch day!
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Honestly, I have everything on except bluetooth and roaming. I even have a live wallpaper. Go to settings, then battery. See which process is draining the battery. This is my second Note. The first one stopped charging after a week. It would light up the red led and charging icon. Only give away was no charging indication on lock screen and no increase on charge level.
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Honestly, I have everything on except bluetooth and roaming. I even have a live wallpaper. Go to settings, then battery. See which process is draining the battery. This is my second Note. The first one stopped charging after a week. It would light up the red led and charging icon. Only give away was no charging indication on lock screen and no increase on charge level.
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Screen is 32%, android is is 15%, android sys is 14%, everything else is 10% or less....is this good?
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Screen is 32%, android is is 15%, android sys is 14%, everything else is 10% or less....is this good?
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Looks normal to me. I don't know what to tell ya.
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Cool....thanks!
Search XDA for an app called Better Battery Stats. Look for any app or programs that have excessive wake locks or kernel wake locks. Google is your friend.
Reformatting SD seemed to fix my issue.
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Reformatting SD seemed to fix my issue.
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I have been suffering from the same battery drain issue. Its's really annoying. I think I get about 8 to 10 hours with normal use. I normally text with the rare chrome usuage (since sprint 3g is slow) and I seem to lose a % every few minutes. It says my screen time on is the culprit and next under that would be android os. I can't seem to figure out whats wasting my batter.
Does a reformat really help? How does that affect the batter?
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I have been suffering from the same battery drain issue. Its's really annoying. I think I get about 8 to 10 hours with normal use. I normally text with the rare chrome usuage (since sprint 3g is slow) and I seem to lose a % every few minutes. It says my screen time on is the culprit and next under that would be android os. I can't seem to figure out whats wasting my batter.
Does a reformat really help? How does that affect the batter?
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its probably your battery. i recent had my stock battery do the same thing. i turned it off at 90% one day and the phone would turn back on. stuck the battery in a charger and let it charge for about 10hrs. when i turned put it back in the phone it was only at 60%. for them on out it only last 8-12hrs max with minimal use. i ordered 2 anker batteries from amazon and curretly im going on 1day 7hrs and some change with 8% left.
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its probably your battery. i recent had my stock battery do the same thing. i turned it off at 90% one day and the phone would turn back on. stuck the battery in a charger and let it charge for about 10hrs. when i turned put it back in the phone it was only at 60%. for them on out it only last 8-12hrs max with minimal use. i ordered 2 anker batteries from amazon and curretly im going on 1day 7hrs and some change with 8% left.
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It seems that my device idle is never any where near the top. I just checked, its at 2% for idle. So something is keeping my phone on in the background.
I've been noticing my battery drain about 3% on idle after taking it off charge. It's really annoying as 3% to me is too much. I've attached the battery screens to this post below.
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Device Idle is responsible for 1.32% drainage from your battery. No problem here. If I'm misunderstanding, please rephrase.
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Device Idle is responsible for 1.32% drainage from your battery. No problem here. If I'm misunderstanding, please rephrase.
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Actually This is what I was referring to, when using the phone the battery drains nice and slow. better than I would expect to drain during screen on time. But when I take it off charger at 6 am and leave it in place and come back at 11 or 12 am I lose about 10% which shouldn't be normal imo. See below:
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Actually This is what I was referring to, when using the phone the battery drains nice and slow. better than I would expect to drain during screen on time. But when I take it off charger at 6 am and leave it in place and come back at 11 or 12 am I lose about 10% which shouldn't be normal imo. See below:
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I'm not sure if that's normal but I loose that amount in 2hours and 45 minutes idle
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aamir123 said:
Actually This is what I was referring to, when using the phone the battery drains nice and slow. better than I would expect to drain during screen on time. But when I take it off charger at 6 am and leave it in place and come back at 11 or 12 am I lose about 10% which shouldn't be normal imo. See below:
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looks to me that ur messaging app is going crazy...everything else looks normal.
what can I do to fix this? Its annoying. And no this shouldn't be normal, I like everything about the stock rom and wouldn't like to root just for the hell of it. But this actually has me thinking, (still leaning towards no as I still get thru the day) but would like to get if fixed non the less.
I noticed the same thing. When i unplug it in the morning it drains faster. But when im waiting for the fully charged notification to pop up then unplug it lasts longer. Its strange, maybe has something to do with charger. Do they have "safe mode" after fully charged to prevent overcharging or something?
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I noticed the same thing. When i unplug it in the morning it drains faster. But when im waiting for the fully charged notification to pop up then unplug it lasts longer. Its strange, maybe has something to do with charger. Do they have "safe mode" after fully charged to prevent overcharging or something?
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I always wait for the battery fully charged unplug charger notification to pop up before unplugging. So that doesn't seem to be the problem.
Faster drain is normal from 100% to 90%. It was explained to me that when you leave the phone on the charger overnight it charges to 100% and then allows it to drain some, then starts recharging again. You may really be at 95% when you pull it off the charger despite what the phone is showing.
First, get Better Battery Stats. It can help you figure out whether something is eating your battery abnormally.
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Also, I highly recommend GSam Battery Monitor It might be a little easier to understand than BBS, but I like and use both.
Finally, read this: Your battery gauge is lying to you!
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First, get Better Battery Stats. It can help you figure out whether something is eating your battery abnormally.
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Also, I highly recommend GSam Battery Monitor It might be a little easier to understand than BBS, but I like and use both.
Finally, read this: Your battery gauge is lying to you!
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Im not rooted so I'm guessing that BBS wont work for me too much. Neither is GSAM Battery Monitor.
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I always wait for the battery fully charged unplug charger notification to pop up before unplugging. So that doesn't seem to be the problem.
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Oh ok. Nevrrmind then
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Go to settings/wifi press menu and select advanced
set NEVER keep wifi on during sleep.... it cut drain to much lower level for me.
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Go to settings/wifi press menu and select advanced
set NEVER keep wifi on during sleep.... it cut drain to much lower level for me.
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already on that setting also today I left the phone in my car for a few hours (after sunset) and when I came back the phone drained from ~50% to 0% and was very hot.
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both apps are working without rooting.
BBS should be the best app to find out which process is your problem.
This phone gets hot randomly, guess it was just humid in your car. I feel like all this battery talk is useless android has never been good with battery life. This phone is huge and powerful so battery drain is going to happen. Also depends how long you had battery, how much you over charge battery. I read in several places that after 3 to 5 months of use batteries tend to drain faster.
Your best bet if it's such a big issue is getting another battery with a separate charger. Honestly in this day and age these smartphones should come with an extra battery lol
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daxecutioner24 said:
This phone gets hot randomly, guess it was just humid in your car. I feel like all this battery talk is useless android has never been good with battery life. This phone is huge and powerful so battery drain is going to happen. Also depends how long you had battery, how much you over charge battery. I read in several places that after 3 to 5 months of use batteries tend to drain faster.
Your best bet if it's such a big issue is getting another battery with a separate charger. Honestly in this day and age these smartphones should come with an extra battery lol
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My battery and phone are both less than a month old, as for humidity that doesn't drain a battery from 50-0% on idle in a few hours. Also I've posted new screenies, messaging used ~20% without being used and stats showing 0s awake. maps did something similar despite disabling all location services and unticking all boxes in the gps submenu. My issue isn't bad battery life, its idle battery life. I shouldn't lose 2% per hour or more when I unplug and go back to sleep.
Our devices use a 4600 mAh battery and was wondering if anyone ever actually sees that figure? I've been struggling to get more than 4-5 hours use and started investigating why. The highest I've ever seen on a full charge is 4309 and the average is about 4260-4280.
Another strange thing I've noticed is that if I start playing a game with 100% charge and the tab plugged in I still loose about 1% per minute.
I've tried multiple roms and they all seem about the same as far as battery usage goes. Right now I'm back to the stock LG KitKat as it seems to perform about the best for me and very stable. I use the battery calibration app and was wondering is there another that might work better?
In closing looking forward to any suggestions or advise
Yep,same for me.battery life is terrible.have tried multiple roms,lucky to get anywhere near 4hrs.
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I just tried an experiment, 100% charged, unplugged tab w/o turning anything on and I already lost 7% in 15 minutes !! I have Greenify installed and all non system apps hibernated and it still eats the battery.
My Sero Pro can sit all day and only loose 1%. If I could be sure I would receive a perfect unit I would consider RMA. But after reading all the issues with the screen problems I'm not going to take the chance. My tab is perfect aside from battery life.
I found a replacement battery on Ebay and am considering buying it to see if I have a bad battery. Something definitely isn't right.
I went to Mahdi rom as soon as I got my tablet about 2 weeks ago. This past weekend I did two battery tests.
These tests were done with wifi always on (medium signal strength, most google apps synced, google location reporting off, no twitter/facebook app, no greenify or any power management apps
If I left the display on indoors at auto brightness, it lasted for about 7-8 hours.
If I left the tablet idle (display off), it consumed about 3% per day (most of it consumed by wifi).
I would suggest trying the same thing with yours and see whether its a hardware issue. You can just do it for a few hours and extrapolate.
I've never calibrated my battery (drain until its empty) unless I notice an erratic drain from a constant task.
Mine is the same, not being used it drains almost nothing. Currently mine is at 49%, been unplugged about 12 hours with 2:47 of screen on time according to the battery stats in settings. 100% stock KitKat, bluetooth off. 15 minutes of screen off (with the screen on long enough to look at battery settings) and no % lost.
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Mine is the same, not being used it drains almost nothing. Currently mine is at 49%, been unplugged about 12 hours with 2:47 of screen on time according to the battery stats in settings. 100% stock KitKat, bluetooth off. 15 minutes of screen off (with the screen on long enough to look at battery settings) and no % lost.
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Same. If I leave it in standby overnight, I see zero battery drain (in 8 hours). I also tested a full HD movie (1080p) in full screen at 45% brightness and medium loudspeaker volume, and measured roughly 12-14% drain per hour, which suggests it could run 7-8 hours of movie playback on a single charge.
I'm happy with my battery usage. I think it's at least as good as my 2012 N7.
Here's a screen shot of usage just reading the other day. Keep in mind I mainly stop my tablet charging at between 90-95% as often as possible.
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I'm with the OP as far as battery drain goes. Mine loses almost 10% in 12 hours at idle with wifi on. With wifi off it'll lose about 3-4% in 12 hours. I haven't done a full to zero test, but battery life is not that great on my personal unit. That is the only thing I don't like about it. I'm running idterror's v50018a ROM.
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I'm with the OP as far as battery drain goes. Mine loses almost 10% in 12 hours at idle with wifi on. With wifi off it'll lose about 3-4% in 12 hours. I haven't done a full to zero test, but battery life is not that great on my personal unit. That is the only thing I don't like about it. I'm running idterror's v50018a ROM.
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Then you have an issue with software you installed. It is neither the battery nor the ROM.
Well I went ahead and ordered the battery. I'm fairly confident it'll solve my problem. To Subtleone, with my tablet even with a barebones install I still have real bad battery life. It does not change very much between barebones and all my apps installed.
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Then you have an issue with software you installed. It is neither the battery nor the ROM.
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I don't think so. Even with a barebones install I get similar battery drain. But I knew the G Pad had terrible battery life going in as noted by every industry review I read prior to purchase.
Don't have any battery problems here (stock KitKat, rooted and most non-system apps greenified), get about 6 hours screen-on time at 70-100% brightness when reading books (wifi off) and an hour or so browsing/youtube'ing.
Are people actually going by unplug time until the device physically shuts down, or just what the battery bar claims? Battery stats are rarely 100% accurate, and there's protection measures built in to prevent a battery actually reaching 100% or 0% despite what the device says.
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I don't think so. Even with a barebones install I get similar battery drain. But I knew the G Pad had terrible battery life going in as noted by every industry review I read prior to purchase.
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Except that I don't have terrible battery life. In fact, most don't. With KitKat (the one in my sig), with WiFi on, I get exactly 0% drain after 8 hours with it in standby (not actually off). Zero. Needless to say, I do not have any known battery killers such as the Facebook app.
At 45% brightness or so, I see about 13% battery drain after an hour of watching a 1080p movie in full screen with sound coming through loudspeakers.
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Except that I don't have terrible battery life. In fact, most don't. With KitKat (the one in my sig), with WiFi on, I get exactly 0% drain after 8 hours with it in standby (not actually off). Zero. Needless to say, I do not have any known battery killers such as the Facebook app.
At 45% brightness or so, I see about 13% battery drain after an hour of watching a 1080p movie in full screen with sound coming through loudspeakers.
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That's incredible. What exactly are your settings? And what are these known battery killer apps so I can freeze them when I'm traveling?
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That's incredible. What exactly are your settings? And what are these known battery killer apps so I can freeze them when I'm traveling?
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Biggest battery eaters are apps like Google+ and Facebook.
UCCW and Weather apps too. Also having gps on.
There's some smashing eye candy apps for use and just for info on your lockscreen, they all seem to suck juice like no tomorrow. It's all the updating they do.
Best advice is to use something like wakelock detector to highlight your problem apps, then use greenify to get them to sleep properly. Also have your wifi set to only stay on when your tablet is plugged in.
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To test a lot of theory I loaded up stock LG KitKat this A.M. . After letting it install and rebooting 3 times in 60 minutes I turned off WIFI and GPS and left it idle. In 4 hours and 12 minutes I was at 79%. Keep in mind when I left it idle the last time I was at 100%.
So at least in "my" case its most certainly not the software. My battery is scheduled for delivery 5/9/14. I'm hoping that will solve the battery issues.
Once I receive the new battery I'll update the thread. And thanks for the replies
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Biggest battery eaters are apps like Google+ and Facebook.
UCCW and Weather apps too. Also having gps on.
There's some smashing eye candy apps for use and just for info on your lockscreen, they all seem to suck juice like no tomorrow. It's all the updating they do.
Best advice is to use something like wakelock detector to highlight your problem apps, then use greenify to get them to sleep properly. Also have your wifi set to only stay on when your tablet is plugged in.
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My GPS is always on so I do not think it drains battery in any unusual way. I'll also add that it works darn well. I used the tablet for navigation in a car and it was impressive.
So to continue the theories I put my screen @ 50% watched 60 minutes of 1080p video via MX Player and lost 31%! That's totally bare aside from MX Player. So after seeing Subtelone's results I'm very convinced I indeed have a bad battery.
I know it's not a fair comparison but I've been using my mum's Acer W4 tablet as my 8.3 is being repaired for bad LCD (mura/spots). The W8.1 tablet actually gives me about 8-9 hours of web browsing time. Yes, it's got fewer pixels to push but bear in mind it is running the full fat Windows 8! I just think it's quite disappointing that the LG pad for me barely lasts 4 hours SOT when I mainly use it for web browsing.
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So to continue the theories I put my screen @ 50% watched 60 minutes of 1080p video via MX Player and lost 31%! That's totally bare aside from MX Player. So after seeing Subtelone's results I'm very convinced I indeed have a bad battery.
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Yes, something is seriously wrong with your battery if everything else is identical. My results are exactly as posted.
I'm sure this question has been asked before. But I'm coming from an iPhone so Neff help with this.
As soon as I start using the phone in the morning when it's connected to WiFi. Within a second of using it or 2 minutes if we're being realistic. The phone loses 2%. Is this normal ? Coming from an iPhone where 100% would last at least 20-30 mjnutes. I can't seem to find anything draining my phone either !
I think a longer observation period (a full day / through the night) will give a better idea of how your battery performs. Use the default power settings or other batter monitoring application like GSam Battery Monitor and compare it against other users here.
myth1001 said:
I think a longer observation period (a full day / through the night) will give a better idea of how your battery performs. Use the default power settings or other batter monitoring application like GSam Battery Monitor and compare it against other users here.
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If did that across the whole day yesterday let me show you the result. I usually charge when the phone gets to around 35-40%
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muzia22 said:
I'm sure this question has been asked before. But I'm coming from an iPhone so Neff help with this.
As soon as I start using the phone in the morning when it's connected to WiFi. Within a second of using it or 2 minutes if we're being realistic. The phone loses 2%. Is this normal ? Coming from an iPhone where 100% would last at least 20-30 mjnutes. I can't seem to find anything draining my phone either !
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I just got my phone & I'm having the same issue, I read online that after a few charging cycles we should have alot better battery life
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I just got my phone & I'm having the same issue, I read online that after a few charging cycles we should have alot better battery life
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Had about 3-4 days worth this end will keep an update here. So far not bad been intense usage for about 2-3 hours lost about 25 percent. Could be worse
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Had about 3-4 days worth this end will keep an update here. So far not bad been intense usage for about 2-3 hours lost about 25 percent. Could be worse
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Well that's alot better than what i'm currently getting so there's hope
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If did that across the whole day yesterday let me show you the result. I usually charge when the phone gets to around 35-40%
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Well that's 3.5 hours of screen on time and you're at 45%. That doesn't look bad to me.
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Well that's 3.5 hours of screen on time and you're at 45%. That doesn't look bad to me.
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Okay just making sure I'm getting the full potential of the phone Lolz reviews kept saying 6 hours but that's assuming they let it get to zero
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Okay just making sure I'm getting the full potential of the phone Lolz reviews kept saying 6 hours but that's assuming they let it get to zero
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Any update?
Got nearly 20 hours off charge with moderate usage throughout the day with a mixture of WiFi and 4G. Turning power saver at 50. Phone had 33 per cent left by end of day.
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Look above
MyNameIsRamo said:
I just got my phone & I'm having the same issue, I read online that after a few charging cycles we should have alot better battery life
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Urban myths and old wives tales. Cycling the battery doesn't "improve" battery life on a Li ion battery. What you are possibly doing is making the battery meter more accurate (placement of the "high" and "low" flags that correlate voltage with "full" and "empty"). But its just a means of measurement, and this doesn't affect the battery life itself. Meaning, it doesn't "improve" battery life any more than messing with the fuel gauge in your car would increase or decrease the amount of gas in the tank.
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muzia22 said:
As soon as I start using the phone in the morning when it's connected to WiFi. Within a second of using it or 2 minutes if we're being realistic. The phone loses 2%. Is this normal ? Coming from an iPhone where 100% would last at least 20-30 mjnutes.
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This doesn't mean anything. The battery % is just an estimation based on battery voltage remaining versus how the phone "thinks" you are going to use it. Comparing 98% on Android versus 100% on iOS is apples to oranges. There is no standard for this, or reason to believe they are in anyway comparable.
As previously noted, 3.5 hours screen-on time with 55% drain (45% remaining) is very normal, even good. A lot of things affect battery life, not least of which is how you use your phone, and cell reception in your area. You will see a wide array of variance in the battery life people get. And since yours seems actually pretty good, I wouldn't worry about it.
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Urban myths and old wives tales. Cycling the battery doesn't "improve" battery life on a Li ion battery. What you are possibly doing is making the battery meter more accurate (placement of the "high" and "low" flags that correlate voltage with "full" and "empty"). But its just a means of measurement, and this doesn't affect the battery life itself. Meaning, it doesn't "improve" battery life any more than messing with the fuel gauge in your car would increase or decrease the amount of gas in the tank.
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This doesn't mean anything. The battery % is just an estimation based on battery voltage remaining versus how the phone "thinks" you are going to use it. Comparing 98% on Android versus 100% on iOS is apples to oranges. There is no standard for this, or reason to believe they are in anyway comparable.
As previously noted, 3.5 hours screen-on time with 55% drain (45% remaining) is very normal, even good. A lot of things affect battery life, not least of which is how you use your phone, and cell reception in your area. You will see a wide array of variance in the battery life people get. And since yours seems actually pretty good, I wouldn't worry about it.
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Thanks [emoji3] it was actually &37 percent but that's still pretty good with the battery save g options available I should be able to exceed a full day in the event of an unplanned night out !
To be fair, I feel like Apple designs their phone where their first 20% will take forever to drop but as soon as it passed that point it falls to 0. And yes I've seen it shut down at 10, turned it back on it's at 2. Where as this phone's last 15% seems to take forever to drop.
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id say thats pretty good life outta the battery. the more you use it the more its gonna drain. and those getting like 6 hours of screen on time are strictly on wifi at an office or something. if your out roaming with LTE and the such your probably not going to get 6 hours...
Intense usage on 4g with lots of camera usage and uploads music and a few phone calls. So far so good! Had more than enough when I got home to leave without changing I case I needed it
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To be fair, I feel like Apple designs their phone where their first 20% will take forever to drop but as soon as it passed that point it falls to 0. And yes I've seen it shut down at 10, turned it back on it's at 2. Where as this phone's last 15% seems to take forever to drop.
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I feel the M8, and my past Android phones take a disproportionate amount of time to drop the first few % as well. Maybe not as much as what you are mentioning for the iPhone (couldn't personally comment). May have to do with the saturation charge that occurs when the battery nears full (in fact, you should actually leave your phone on charge for some time after it says full).
Also, the battery meter on any phone is far from accurate. It often can't really be trusted with be within 5 or even 10%. So that would explain why you saw it "jump" down 8%.
Yeah my point was that all these phones' measure battery differently and not exactly accurate so you shouldn't compare Apple to oranges. Oh and the jump in percentages was referring to the iPhones. If anything Android tends to jump up when turned back on lol.
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