[Q] connect 1000 GB external - Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A

Can I connect an external hard (1 T) with this cable to my nexus 7 2013 lte rooted?
http://www.amazon.com/Estoreimport-Micro-Cable-Power-Samsung/dp/B00C4521R4/ref=pd_sim_sbs_cps_3
If yes which kernel can support ?
I use a stock kernel and when I want to connect flash drive with otg cable use stick mount pro

dont know anybody?!

I don't think it will be able to power a so big external hard drive.

GeoVali99 said:
I don't think it will be able to power a so big external hard drive.
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For hard drives, in most cases you will have to supply external power as the N7 doesn't provide much (the 2013 seems to be a bit less than the 2012 version). I have used a Western Digital 1TB My Passport drive using this cable and a separate power pack:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...=UTF8&psc=1&tag=androidcentral00-20&m1k=vb_ac
This cable is for a USB 3 drive, a similar USB 2 cable is:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...=UTF8&psc=1&tag=androidcentral00-20&m1k=vb_ac
An OTG cable connects the N7 to the Y-cable. The rest of the Y-cable is connected to the external battery power source and to the hard drive. The hard drive is then accessed on the N7 using the Nexus Media Importer app (a rooted device gives more options). And note that the external power supply is not also charging the N7 battery - it is only providing power to the drive. One other thing - sometimes there is sensitivity to what is attached when - i.e., connect all of the external pieces together first and then plug the OTG cable into the N7 - I have see it sometimes occur that if I attach the OTG cable to the N7 first, followed by attaching the rest to the OTG cable that Nexus Media Importer does not connect to the drive.
Needless to say, a flash drive is much easier in that it just plugs in with the OTG cable and does not require additional power.

YES I CAN!!
i can coonect 1 TB external hard with y cable and 5V 1A adaptor and stcikmount Pro to my nexus 7 2013!!:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::good::good:

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Samsung galaxy S3 OTG for USB 3. hard drives

Hi there,
I have a samsung galaxy S3 (rooted) and have recently purchased OTG cable. The problem is that when I connect s3 with Hitachi Touro (mobile USB 3.0) through OTG cable hard drive does appear in files. I have installed paragon NTFS and stickmount apps but it doesn't seem to connect even though a message keeps appearing "usb connector is connected". Hard drive gives a clicking sound when it is connected with S3 but works perfectly with the computer.
Does anyone know solution to this?
Thanks and regards
I've heard of some people having problems when connected to a usb 3.0 port on their computer and have to connect to a 2.0 port instead. Maybe related?
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DocHoliday77 said:
I've heard of some people having problems when connected to a usb 3.0 port on their computer and have to connect to a 2.0 port instead. Maybe related?
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USB 3.0 I don't think is supported. What I've seen people do is use a 2.0 cable extension with their 3.0 device. As this downgrades it to 2.0 because they should be compatible with 2.0 just won't have the insane speeds as 3.0. Or you can get a USB hub and plug it in that way.
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Sounds like the Hard Drive is not getting enough power (The clicking), do you have it plugged into an external power supply?
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splatdotsplat said:
Sounds like the Hard Drive is not getting enough power (The clicking), do you have it plugged into an external power supply?
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Thanks for all the replies. Hard drive is not connected to power supply as it is portable.
Maazyazdani said:
Thanks for all the replies. Hard drive is not connected to power supply as it is portable.
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Splatdotsplat is correct. That clicking sound are the heads resetting to the park position. This usually happens when drives are not getting enough power. When the drive spins up it peaks its power consumption and cuts out because there is not enough so the heads reset. Portable or not that is the issue. I have seen this happen with some portable drives on computers (especially larger capacity). A lot of times the solution can be as simple as using a shorter cable. Sometimes it doesn't work.
as stated above, the only way to run external hdd's of any kind is to be sure they're powered, even some thumbdrives will draw more power than the phone can provide and you'll notice your batt life take a steep dive (as did my Galaxy Nexus w/otg on an HP 16gb thumbdrive)
power the drive through a powered hub and you're good to go!
splatdotsplat said:
Sounds like the Hard Drive is not getting enough power (The clicking), do you have it plugged into an external power supply?
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This is why i recommended using a USB powered HUB as the HUB will give enough power to the external hard drive.
elesbb said:
This is why i recommended using a USB powered HUB as the HUB will give enough power to the external hard drive.
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Having the same issue myself, otg cable with Samsung portable 500GB external HDD and stickmount pro works fine with my Nexus 7,but won't work with my Galaxy even though it recognises the HDD, so do you think a USB hub would be the solution, and can anyone recommend one
Thanks
Anyone?
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i wish there are people who are willing to investigate/try this thing out, it would be awesome to make a portable hard drive works on our S3..
kemaro30 said:
i wish there are people who are willing to investigate/try this thing out, it would be awesome to make a portable hard drive works on our S3..
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Just to throw in some info. I do agree about the hdd not getting enough power as the cause for the clicking. I have a 500gb hitachi drive that does that if a long usb cable is used. The drive didn't come with a power adapter but instead came with a short usb cable that had two heads. allowing it to draw power from two ports. It also had a port for an adaptor though.
When testing with my Samsung Galaxy sIII It doesn't work unless I have the hd running via external power or have the second usb connector on the cable connected to a charging usb cable. Both options charge the phone while the hd is connected to the phone.
The usb cable with the double ports actually works well for me. I have the first port connected to the otg cable that I made and the second connection connected to a usb extender that is connected to my 2A tablet charger. That way I can charge at the same time.
esqueue said:
Just to throw in some info. I do agree about the hdd not getting enough power as the cause for the clicking. I have a 500gb hitachi drive that does that if a long usb cable is used. The drive didn't come with a power adapter but instead came with a short usb cable that had two heads. allowing it to draw power from two ports. It also had a port for an adaptor though.
When testing with my Samsung Galaxy sIII It doesn't work unless I have the hd running via external power or have the second usb connector on the cable connected to a charging usb cable. Both options charge the phone while the hd is connected to the phone.
The usb cable with the double ports actually works well for me. I have the first port connected to the otg cable that I made and the second connection connected to a usb extender that is connected to my 2A tablet charger. That way I can charge at the same time.
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Hi the problem i basically power as in the amount of current your device requires, i know that the standard specifications of the original 2.0 interface is about max 500mA and 5Vdc per port, in some cases the maximum output current is even smaller due to hardware restrictions, this can lead to difficulties when trying to power something like an external hard drive. Therefore a long cable will also give a problem due to the resistance of the material, because the required voltage level is not high enough.
I do not know if there is a spec sheet containing information about the output capabilities of the usb port, if there is one i recommend using that to match an external hard drives, if you do not want to use an external power supply.
Edit: you could also use an external power bank/battery pack but i seems a bit bulky
kemaro30 said:
i wish there are people who are willing to investigate/try this thing out, it would be awesome to make a portable hard drive works on our S3..
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Sure go out and buy me one and i'll test all day..
USB OTG works out of the box for low power devices. I havent seen/read anything stating USB 3.0 works on the S3. I have a 1TB hard drive my brother gave me, its not the newer ones that are ssd so it has a power adapter with it and it works perfectly with my S3. Going to be using it in a few minutes to back up my internal SD.
So guys I have the GT-I9300 ( Galaxy S3 ) and I have 1 TB WD My Passport
I'm plannig to buy the OTG piece ! so as of now is possible to connect the hardrive to the phone or not yet !?
Is there even a driver and an app to do such a thing? As I see it the USB port is configured as an external storage device to connect to a computer not the other way around. What you are doing is connecting two storage devices together. There's no way I would ever connect anything to my phones USB port that requires power. If I were to, it would be through a powered hub.
Hi Eles
elesbb said:
USB 3.0 I don't think is supported. What I've seen people do is use a 2.0 cable extension with their 3.0 device. As this downgrades it to 2.0 because they should be compatible with 2.0 just won't have the insane speeds as 3.0. Or you can get a USB hub and plug it in that way.
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I have read that you connected your S3 with external powered HDD. I bought yesterday the genuine samsung OTG cable and it is working only with memory stick and joystick controller. Don't know why it is not working with my external powered HDD - 500 GB WD. Any ideea ? My S3 is not rooted.
Thanks,
M.
No, nobody is going to have a recommendation for a powered USB hub.
It's a trivial, generic, piece of kit you buy nearly anywhere for under US$10 (unless you're a complete sucker.) Just make sure whatever you get *includes* a power supply.
Get one in the shape of a person, or a kitty cat, or a Tardis, whatever thrills you.
KurrentUser said:
Is there even a driver and an app to do such a thing? As I see it the USB port is configured as an external storage device to connect to a computer not the other way around. What you are doing is connecting two storage devices together. There's no way I would ever connect anything to my phones USB port that requires power. If I were to, it would be through a powered hub.
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that's not quite accurate. when you plug your phone into your PC, the drivers that you installed will see your phone as a usb device (or media device) and allow you to use your phone as such
an OTG (on-the-go) cable allows you to connect a storage device to your phone, such as a thumb drive or external hard drive (powered or not) and then your phone acts like your PC and uses that device as storage
elesbb said:
USB 3.0 I don't think is supported. What I've seen people do is use a 2.0 cable extension with their 3.0 device. As this downgrades it to 2.0 because they should be compatible with 2.0 just won't have the insane speeds as 3.0. Or you can get a USB hub and plug it in that way.
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I can confirm that in my case forcing my ADATA HV610 1 TB disk to USB 2.0 mode worked. The trick is to use a standard micro-USB cable (e.g. the one that comes with your charger) instead of the standard cable that comes with the HDD.
More detail:
The common USB 3 cable which comes with most new HDDs uses USB 3.0 Micro-B plug which, in practice, is a micro-USB with a "half-micro-USB" next to it. The part most people don't know is that you can use a common micro-USB cable (as the one from your charger) to connect your HDD to your PC (or other device) with the cost of loss of USB 3.0 compatibility. Which, in our case, is what we need, as this switch makes the HDD less power-hungry.
Post a comment if it works for other hard drives too (I think WD also use Micro-B connectors for their USB 3.0 Passports)

[Q] 2.5" HDD

Hello,
I have a USB otg connection adapter and thumb drives and sd cards work fine. Higher power devices (external 2.5" HDD) don't work as they need more power. I have a Y usb cable for my external hard drive (one usb plug for data and one for extra power). Can I connect the data plug to my otg adapter and the other usb connector to a wall charger in order to make my Note work with my hard drive? Or am i going to break something in my Note as there are no diodes in the y-cable blocking current going from the wall charger into my Note?
edit: and if this works: any suggestions for the file structure? FAT is not ideal due to file size limitations and NTFS is not ideal due to licensing. Does the Note supports exFAT up to 1 TB?
Yes, you can. You can use a wall adapter, a powered USB hub or like me, a portable battery with USB output that lets you use that HDD on the go.
Szadzik said:
Yes, you can. You can use a wall adapter, a powered USB hub or like me, a portable battery with USB output that lets you use that HDD on the go.
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I've noticed that the 10.1 won't power some things like a 2.5" portable drive that my Note 2 can power just fine. Not sure if there is a reason for this and it's working as intended or just a bug?
gmkelly001 said:
I've noticed that the 10.1 won't power some things like a 2.5" portable drive that my Note 2 can power just fine. Not sure if there is a reason for this and it's working as intended or just a bug?
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It is only by a fluke that the Note 1 powers an HDD. These devices are not designed to power anything but USB sticks. Not sure if there is enough juice to power a USB3 stick so do not look for bugs or solutions as this is not a bug but that how the device is designed.

Access your WD 2tb Passport HD with OTG and Power bank

What you need
- Nexus 7 2013
- WD 2tb Passport HD ( no ac required)
http://www.amazon.com/Passport-Portable-External-Storage-WDBY8L0020BBK-NESN/dp/B005HMKKH4
- Portable External battery
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/2USB-30000ma...hone_PDA_Batteries&hash=item258103ee95&_uhb=1
- Micro USB Host OTG Cable with USB power Male Female for cell phone Tablet
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/USB-2-0-Micr...bles_Hubs_Adapters&hash=item3385f60dc4&_uhb=1
Works flawlessly. I'm able to access all my files on the hard drive through my tablet. The down side of it is you gotta carry a portable external battery for it to work. Other than that its pretty useful.
aznduk said:
What you need
- Nexus 7 2013
- WD 2tb Passport HD ( no ac required)
http://www.amazon.com/Passport-Portable-External-Storage-WDBY8L0020BBK-NESN/dp/B005HMKKH4
- Portable External battery
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/2USB-30000ma...hone_PDA_Batteries&hash=item258103ee95&_uhb=1
- Micro USB Host OTG Cable with USB power Male Female for cell phone Tablet
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/USB-2-0-Micr...bles_Hubs_Adapters&hash=item3385f60dc4&_uhb=1
Works flawlessly. I'm able to access all my files on the hard drive through my tablet. The down side of it is you gotta carry a portable external battery for it to work. Other than that its pretty useful.
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Really nice to run across this! I have a 1TB WD Passport, OTG cable, an Anker external battery, and Nexus Media Importer and they work great with this setup. I had tried a powered USB hub and it worked but this is much better from my perspective - hadn't thought of trying the battery pack.
Interestingly, I also have 2 500GB WD Passports that worked without additional power on my 2012 N7 but they won't work without additional power on my 2013 N7.
Thanks for the post!
Dave
aznduk said:
Works flawlessly. I'm able to access all my files on the hard drive through my tablet. The down side of it is you gotta carry a portable external battery for it to work. Other than that its pretty useful.
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Can you also write to the hard drive?
Thanks, Michael.
does it have to be a 2 tb? i have a 1.5 tb
mtbvfr said:
Can you also write to the hard drive?
Thanks, Michael.
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yes, im currently on cm10.2 m1(milestone) rom with stock kernal. playing videos straight off hd tends to reboot my device. Let me know if you get similar issues. i find copying the file into the sd storage is the most stable way. hopefully CyanogenMod will come up with an update that corrects this problem
Midnight Marauder said:
does it have to be a 2 tb? i have a 1.5 tb
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It works with any hd drive that doesnt require an outlet plug
Is it possible to use a USB hub, connect the HDD to the hub, mount the HDD and then connect a SD Card reader to the USB hub, mount the SD card reader and transfer files from the SD card to the HDD??
TehFonz said:
Is it possible to use a USB hub, connect the HDD to the hub, mount the HDD and then connect a SD Card reader to the USB hub, mount the SD card reader and transfer files from the SD card to the HDD??
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No. It appears that a single external drive/memory device is the limit (at least on a stock unit).
I forgot to ask before, does this require rooting?
Midnight Marauder said:
I forgot to ask before, does this require rooting?
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No, I'm stock.
I have a WD element 1tb, I'll need the OTG but the external battery is required to play it on n7?
vinceboiii said:
I have a WD element 1tb, I'll need the OTG but the external battery is required to play it on n7?
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Yes, and an app like Nexus Media Importer to access it. I'm actually assuming that it will require additional power, like my 1TB WD Passport does - I haven't tried this particular model myself.
ahh right need that app too okay thanks. I will give this a try after I move and settle in.
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I don't understand. How do you have it cabled? For example, I have a limefuel 15600mAh battery with a microUSB input (for power) and two USB outputs to power a device. How are you cabling the Passport to the battery and then to the Nexus?
kennybellew said:
I don't understand. How do you have it cabled? For example, I have a limefuel 15600mAh battery with a microUSB input (for power) and two USB outputs to power a device. How are you cabling the Passport to the battery and then to the Nexus?
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I'm using a different setup, a dual A to Micro-B USB 3.0 Y Cable like this --
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005M0ICG2/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The USB 3 male plug goes to the WD; the male USB 2 power plug goes to the external battery; the other male USB 2 goes to a OTG cable connected to the Nexus 7. I use Nexus Media Importer to access the WD.
Dave
sparksd said:
I'm using a different setup, a dual A to Micro-B USB 3.0 Y Cable like this --
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005M0ICG2/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The USB 3 male plug goes to the WD; the male USB 2 power plug goes to the external battery; the other male USB 2 goes to a OTG cable connected to the Nexus 7. I use Nexus Media Importer to access the WD.
Dave
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is there cheaper on ebay for that microUSB 3.0 y cable? that looks interesting if u can do usb3.0 speeds TO and FROM your tablet/phone
sparksd said:
I'm using a different setup, a dual A to Micro-B USB 3.0 Y Cable like this --
The USB 3 male plug goes to the WD; the male USB 2 power plug goes to the external battery; the other male USB 2 goes to a OTG cable connected to the Nexus 7. I use Nexus Media Importer to access the WD.
Dave
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Thanks. That helps.
cobyman7035 said:
is there cheaper on ebay for that microUSB 3.0 y cable? that looks interesting if u can do usb3.0 speeds TO and FROM your tablet/phone
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Probably are - Amazon was convenient. As for speed, I don't have a way to measure transfer speeds but I do know it is fast and in no way impedes video file viewing direct from the HDD. Using on a laptop, I can see that it does give true USB 3.0 transfer speeds.
sparksd said:
Yes, and an app like Nexus Media Importer to access it. I'm actually assuming that it will require additional power, like my 1TB WD Passport does - I haven't tried this particular model myself.
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You don't really need the Nexus Media Importer app to access external hard drive files.I'm on Cm10.2.0 and I'm using ES File Explorer to access the files. I do get random reboots due to the Nexus overheating say after an hr of video play directly from the HD.
aznduk said:
You don't really need the Nexus Media Importer app to access external hard drive files.I'm on Cm10.2.0 and I'm using ES File Explorer to access the files. I do get random reboots due to the Nexus overheating say after an hr of video play directly from the HD.
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True - I was responding from the perspective of a stock device. I haven't seen the reboots - are you overclocking with Cm?

[Q] External Hard Drive woes...

Not sure if this is the correct place for this, first time posting.
So I'm having a hell of a time getting my Western Digital 2TB external drive to connect to my Nexus 7 2013. I have both Stickmount and Nexus Media Importer installed, and I'm rooted with Cyanogenmod, and I have a working OTG cable.
I know that the Nexus 7 doesn't have enough power to support most external hard drives that use a USB for power. So I bought a 12000mAh external battery with a 5V 2.1A output USB port, and a 4-port (unpowered) USB hub from Radioshack.
Along with those, I had to hunt down a male-to-male standard USB cable in order to connect the female port on the hub to the female port of the OTG cable (using the standard USB-to-micro doesn't work, because for some reason the OTG cable is specifically required to mount USB devices on Android, as you guys probably know).
After finally getting the male-to-male cord today, I tried hooking it up and still no luck. NMI detects the OTG cable but cannot detect the external drive. It works just fine with a flash drive.
Now after looking at the reviews of the USB hub on the site that I linked to, I'm thinking it may be the problem. If you look in the comments you have multiple people stating that this specific hub doesn't play well with many external drives. I haven't had any troubles with it through my PC, but you never know. I've also tried switching between the USB 3.0 cable that came with the drive to a standard USB-to-micro charge/data cable (with no luck), because I've read that NMI doesn't support USB 3.0
Does anyone have any advice or experience with this kind of thing? I'm thinking I may need to find a Y adapter that has one female and two male plugs so I'm not having to go through a potentially-crappy USB hub. But I'm not sure if that'll actually fix the problem or not. From searching around on the web a bit, it seems that connecting this specific drive with the Nexus 7 shouldn't be all that difficult, there's plenty of simple guides out there to demonstrate.
Just to recap, here's my connection process:
- Connect USB hub to external batter (2.1A port), make sure battery is ON
- Connect USB from External Drive to an open port on the hub
- Connect male-to-male USB cable to another port on the hub
- Connect M2M cable to the OTG cable
- Connect OTG cable to Nexus 7 (while on, with 90%+ battery)
- Nothing happens
EDIT - Would have included links to the specific devices, but I'm new to XDA so they won't let me post link yet.
I have a WD 1TB USB3 external drive. The only way I got it to work was by installing Paragon exFAT, NTFS & HFS+ (Available on the Play store), connecting the drive through a normal OTG cable, and rebooting the Nexus WITH the cable connected. Yes, I have to reboot every time with the OTG cable plugged in. I can plug/unplug devices as much as I want, but once the OTG is unplugged, I have to do another reboot; it's annoying, but it is better than nothing. Give this a shot.
Also, what ROM/Kernel are you running?
is the drive formatted as NTFS or exFAT? maybe try the ElementalX kernel as it supports both formats for USB OTG and see if that helps?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2389022
edit- just remembered that i came across extra files on the Stickmount XDA page a while back that lets Stickmount support NTFS and exFAT drives, if flashing a custom kernel isn't your thing then you could try that..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1400034
I finally got it to work, and now I just feel foolish.
I just needed to switch two cords. I had the male end of the USB hub plugged into the battery, and then the external drive and male-to-male USB plugged into the hub. The male-to-male cord then went to the OTG and the tablet. This apparently didn't let the data/power through correctly.
I went down to the local computer shop and the guy showed me that I was doing it wrong. Instead of using the hub's male end to hook up to the battery, I needed to use the m2m cord for that. The male end of the hub now connects to the OTG, and it works like a charm. I have to make sure to power up the drive and give it a second before connecting it, but Stickmount detects it right away and I have all my content.
I was pretty sure I'd tried every configuration and that I'd need a Y cable for sure, but I'm glad that's not the case even though I feel like an idiot now, haha.

USB OTG split cable for charging and OTG device at the same time?

When I had my Nexus 5 I bought an OTG cable that had two inputs and claimed to allow charging of the Nexus 5 simultaneously with using an OTG device. It didn't work.
I want to use my Axon 7 with an external HDD for DLNA streaming of videos to my PS4, while also charging my Axon 7. Does anyone know of a split OTG cable that will work for this purpose? The external HDD does not have its own power source, and draws power from the phone. It works with an OTG cable I currently have (but does not have an additional input for charging the phone).
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