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hey guys...
could someone please help me make a choice between these phones. I do root my android phones and therefore the big question is whether i could use a ROM designed for the N1 on the Desire and vice versa? I have read loads of reviews and comparisons about them but i need some DEV help on this...lol
Much appreciated..
I doubt very much whether they would be interchangeable. There are, however ROMs for the N1 which include SenseUI.
Likewise, there are workarounds to enable/disable most (all?) of the N1 features on the Desire.
If you're going to root your phone, AFAIK the only real difference is that the N1 has noise cancellation.
thanks for that... so the nexus one it is!!! lol...
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The desire has more integral memory to run sense nice and smooth though
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=782211
this is a thread from the evo section about improving the camera, it applies to the incredible as well. the camera is capable of being better than the iphone's (see page 4), and if it just needs software then maybe we could get some improvements.
That would be pretty cool
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That would be...incredible. Would donate to whoever could make it sound and look better.
quick post just in case development starts!
Ya I really want to see this take off since we have such a sophisticated camera.
I'm a professional photographer. I would like to see an app that will enable the user to manually adjust the cameras f stop and shutter speed...
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Nice. I get some pretty decent shots already, looking forward to some improvements!
would love to see these improvements but from reading that thread it seems like its been around for a little while and hasn't shown any developer interest.
Perhaps we can get an Incredible developer to work on this.
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hasn't got developer interest because it was moved to q and a for some reason
I assume the reason it hasn't gotten any developer interest is because of the daunting task that it is. Not only is it a lot of work to begin with but they would also have to research and learn about the camera hardware... Sounds kinda nightmarish to me.
That said, it would be a great achievement for the mod community if we could get a modded camera working better than the iphone 4!
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So what do you guys think? Would you use webOS on your shiny gnex if it was made available?
Since HP announced the release of the webOS source code, the recently abandoned operating system has grown a rather loyal following. Progress has been made in homebrew development and in custom builds for webOS native devices. Many forum members have been clamoring for a port of webOS to Android devices for several months now. Initial ports were expected to appear for the Motorola Droid or its GSM counterpart, the Milestone, since the devices share the same OMAP3 3430 processor with the Palm Pre (the very first native webOS device).
Recently an HTC EVO 3D was spotted running a build of webOS 3.0, the version that came with the notorious HP TouchPad. Originally posted by Ryan Hope (@_puffthemagic_) on Twitter, the 3 still images of webOS running have now been supplemented with a YouTube video that can be found here. While not functional enough for actual use, the operating system boots without issue. Ryan originally started work on the port before HP released the source code for webOS. With the release of both the Android kernel and the full webOS source porting progress can only move forward from here. Could this mean widespread availability of webOS ports on Android devices soon? Depending on interest level and developer involvement, it is a possibility!
If webOS is of interest to you don’t forget to check out our webOS forum section here. Want to get involved? Developers and *nix experts, check out the webOS Software and Hacking section here!
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No
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I'd definitely try it out for kicks, webOS was a great OS. The only problem is it was great. It's outdated now with a huge lack of apps. There's already an open source project with Android, and it's backed by a huge company. WebOS will be purely community driven with people working on it in their spare time or just for proof of concepts.
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I'd definitely try it out for kicks, webOS was a great OS. The only problem is it was great. It's outdated now with a huge lack of apps. There's already an open source project with Android, and it's backed by a huge company. WebOS will be purely community driven with people working on it in their spare time or just for proof of concepts.
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Same here. I'd say it has great potential. Now that it is opensource more developers will consider it as a viable app platform.
NO...I had a Pre Plus since it launched. First things first, it did have potential, webOS that is, if only devs would focus on it to bring iOS and Android apps. Secondly, the phone itself made me hate webOS and I doubt I will ever consider going back to a webOS device/phone.
WebOS was superb for its time. But the problem is it has not grown with new competitive features and additions like android and iOS has. Its been starved and abandoned, so it will never achieve parity with android.
I'd like to dualboot webOS, or even temporarily flash it. I never got to play with wOS, but i'd like to.
no way
the maturity level is too far behind android.
webOS is awesome. but circumstances -- bad hardware & worse marketing --> low user base --> no apps -- doomed it.
sad story. i liked it a lot.
I don't even use WebOS on my HP Touchpad, no way I'd put it on my Galaxy Nexus or any Android device.
The OS is nice, but without apps WebOS gets boring real quick. And I kinda like having home screens anyway.
ICS for sure.
I wouldn't mind running a webos UI over android but webos by itself is a no from me.
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I have an old phone I am not using that currently has an ICS rom on it, but if someone were to make a rom for it, I'd probably throw it on there to see what all the fuss is about webOS but more than likely remove it and put back ICS on it.
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So what do you guys think? Would you use webOS on your shiny gnex if it was made available?
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I loled. That's like using a v dub engine in a space ship.
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No. Feature set is no longer competitive and app ecosystem is far behind.
That said, Android was in the same boat but I loved it and the G1 anyway.
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You know what would be great? If someone developed a way for android apps to run on webOS. Similiar to what BB is doing for the playbook. It wouldn't be perfect ofcourse, but still a nice compromise.
If WebOS had two years more development then maybe but ICS is just light years away.
It wasn't the hardware lagging webos. Great concept very poor implementation which is why it failed.
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It wasn't the hardware lagging webos. Great concept very poor implementation which is why it failed.
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Well that's the whole reason opensource webos is interesting: now it won't be limited to crappy hardware from palm and hp.
Is this a joke thread?
WebOS was good but its OLD.
Thats like asking if I'd like to have my bluray player hooked up to a CRT LMAO.
ICS is the lastest and greatest high end OS on a high end device. You don't mix new tech with old software haha
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Is this a joke thread?
WebOS was good but its OLD.
Thats like asking if I'd like to have my bluray player hooked up to a CRT LMAO.
ICS is the lastest and greatest high end OS on a high end device. You don't mix new tech with old software haha
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Come on... How long ago did HP Touchpad came out? 6 months ago?
And when the developers have the source they can improve it and make it much better.
Hey guys I have a question for you users of the GN... have any of you went from a RAZR to it? How does everything work? I know it has ICS and I am dying to get it on my RAZR, but I was just wondering if you guys can help me decide on which phone to either keep or if i should get the GN?
I own both, I prefer the gnex, much much better development support, and IMO more fun to use.
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can you elaborate? I'm an android noob (iPhone convert) and never have rooted, etc on my android phones...
The GNex is much more hacker friendly which allows you to work with the OS of the phone. Motorola has a reputation of locking their phones down like fort knox so you cant mess with the internals.
So what are some good things about like rooting and roms? Like I said.. NOOB
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Droid Razr = LAG LAG LAG!
GNexus = 0 Lag, Super smooth and very snappy
There are soooo many comparisons of these two phones on the internets.
What's the best things about rooting?
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matesims23 said:
What's the best things about rooting?
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Google search the benefits of rooting.
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matesims23 said:
What's the best things about rooting?
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having "administrator" access to the phone ...
flashing custom roms with more software development and features
root apps such as LBE privacy guard (must have for me)
fun
doing anything you want with the phone, you are only limited by your knowledge or lack there of
One way to look at it is when Google builds Android they build it for the Nexus models. Then they release the code, the other manufactures then modify the code to work with their hardware.
Now since you are on the Verizon version they modify google's code for their network so you would not have the 100% pure code, only about 98%. It would be purer than Motorola's build.
Also the Razor is a closed platform hardware wise. This is a really good video about the Razor. http://www.xda-developers.com/android/droid-razr-unboxed-the-xda-way-xda-tv/
I think I'm gonna try the nexus
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matesims23 said:
can you elaborate? I'm an android noob (iPhone convert) and never have rooted, etc on my android phones...
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Rooting (completely different from jail-breaking), allows the user to run super user commands on their cell phone. Super user commands and apps generally have much more access to system files, allowing for overclocking (if the kernel supports it), free wifi tethering, and so on. Unlocking the bootloader allows for flashing custom ROMs on the device. Flashing can be done on a locked device, but no kernels (hence no overclocking) can be flashed. This also causes custom ROMs without their own kernel to generally be less stable than those for an unlocked bootloader device. Rooting is necessary for any Android power user, though a bootloader unlock may not always be necessary. Custom kernels often provide massive boosts to performance and add new features, so it is strongly recommended.
Thanks that helps a ton!!! That's the answer I was needing
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What's the best things about rooting?
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Rooting gives you admin access to your phone so you can do whatever you want. We'd never buy a computer without admin access, should be same on a phone.
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Rooting gives you admin access to your phone so you can do whatever you want. We'd never buy a computer without admin access, should be same on a phone.
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I understand now ... been doing a ton of reading about roms and such
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I have both as of this minute and I will sell one of them soon. I prefer the gnex but damn does it poor signal compared to my razor.
I don't even have service on my gnex in areas that I have 2 bars on my razor.
I just flashed leaked radios on my gnex and it didn't help. I only use 3g as no 4g at home yet.
I will prob keep the gnex though and hope for a signal fix cause the gnex is faster and just a nicer phone IMO.
...radios? your on the verizon nexus right? arent the leaked radios just for the sprint phones?
The Nexus line is Google's own idea of what an Android device should be; they are the ONLY handsets that are supported directly by Google. Consequently, Nexus phones have an Apple-like software support cycle (say what you want about Apple, the 3GS got iOS 5 before my Droid Charge even got Gingerbread) and huge dev support. Keep in mind that a Nexus phone is never designed to push the bleeding edge; it may have some neat new features, but they're never designed to be powerhouses (some say the N1 was, but IMO it was just in the right place at the right time). A Nexus device is the bone stock Android experience, an exemplar to the rest of the manufacturers on just what an Android device should be.
To summarize:
1.) The absolute best official software support you can get in the Android world, and among the best 3rd party dev support. While some devices released this year will be lucky to get ICS and/or Jelly Bean, you can pretty much rest assured that the GNex will go well into Key Lime Pie officially.
2.) Internal hardware chosen for STABILITY and EFFICIENCY, rather than bleeding edge, untested (and usually buggy) performance. That said, while it isn't cutting edge, the GNex has very solid hardware, and performance is always snappy and smooth.
3.) Usually has some neat perks that most other phones don't have. In the Gnex's case, it's the BEAUTIFUL 720p AMOLED+ display, NFC support, the ultra-fast camera, and of course Ice Cream Sandwich.
After using a plethora of other non-Nexus Android devices, I got absolutely fed up with the apathy that the manufacturers and carriers have toward updating their handsets. The last straw was, as I mentioned, my Droid Charge. Even though Verizon considered it the flagship 4G LTE phone well into last September, it was released with an out-of-date OS to begin with (Froyo; GB had been out for well over half a year already). It didn't get GB until after it had been replaced as a flagship phone, and then was (and remains) ineligible for an update to ICS even though ICS was released only six months after the Charge was released! What the hell is that!?
Never again. Nexus or bust. Trust me, you'll be happy with the GNex.
This helps me a ton.. trying to trade now
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It's been months since m9 was launched but still we find very less development here compared to other recently launched phones .. There isn't any official cyanogenmod projects for the device yet,nor there are many custom kernel options. There aren't much activity in general except on sense rom.. Is it because less and less people have bought m9?
I am sure we would love to see more ROM and kernel options.
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It's been months since m9 was launched but still we find very less development here compared to other recently launched phones .. There isn't any official cyanogenmod projects for the device yet,nor there are many custom kernel options. There aren't much activity in general except on sense rom.. Is it because less and less people have bought m9?
I am sure we would love to see more ROM and kernel options.
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I noticed this however going from S4 to M9 is a huge difference. 2 years there abouts and samsung and a few other brands have a larger fan base who will ALWAYS buy those phones and so development is much more frequent.
Give it time and im sure things will pick up, especially once the CM team crack it and deliver what will undoubtedly be an awesome rom. That will pave the way for more AOSP / CM style roms which im very much looking forward to
have faith mate.
You mean compared to the S6? If you think this place is slow, go check those forums out. Considering how many more of those have sold, compared to the M9, S6 development is dead as a doornail.
From what I've seen, development for anything not Nexus has slowed quite a bit. Not as many people are modding their phones, I think because Android and the manufacturer skins have picked up a lot of the mods people used to want to root for.
That being said, things should pick up once CM is official.
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You mean compared to the S6? If you think this place is slow, go check those forums out. Considering how many more of those have sold, compared to the M9, S6 development is dead as a doornail.
From what I've seen, development for anything not Nexus has slowed quite a bit. Not as many people are modding their phones, I think because Android and the manufacturer skins have picked up a lot of the mods people used to want to root for.
That being said, things should pick up once CM is official.
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The development is slow because of the exynos chipset. IF it was snapdragon, the story wouldn't be the same.
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Roobwz said:
The development is slow because of the exynos chipset. IF it was snapdragon, the story wouldn't be the same.
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The development here is slow because of the 64 bit processor. If it was 32 bit, the story wouldn't be the same.
Most mods have become baked into roms. Hell we can theme easily now. What's the real point of having 70 copies of the same thing.
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what are you talking about there is atleast 10 different ROMs and CM12.1 almost fully working