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Need your advice!!

Since I have my E4GT rooted, is it safe to push the OVA update for signal Los that Spring just pushed out? It's just that I keep getting the notification that I have the update ready to download and it is becoming extremely annoying.

Same here
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Rule #1 of rooting, never take an OTA. If you want to take it. You must first completely unroot, then accept the OTA. Otherwise wait for a dev to release a rooted version.
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Khilbron said:
Rule #1 of rooting, never take an OTA. If you want to take it. You must first completely unroot, then accept the OTA. Otherwise wait for a dev to release a rooted version.
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I wouldn't really say that's rule #1, probably more like rule #23 or #24... the first like 20 rules mainly include Modding, getting sh*t for free, and banging b*itchs
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Thanks for the advice guys I truly appreciate it....will probably just wait like you said and until then just keep clearing the notification.

hijewpositive said:
I wouldn't really say that's rule #1, probably more like rule #23 or #24... the first like 20 rules mainly include Modding, getting sh*t for free, and banging b*itchs
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ReubenRene said:
Since I have my E4GT rooted, is it safe to push the OVA update for signal Los that Spring just pushed out? It's just that I keep getting the notification that I have the update ready to download and it is becoming extremely annoying.
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If you're rooted or running any other system modification, the OTA won't apply to your phone. Even if you try, it will fail and you'll just reboot back to your normal phone. Your best bet is to actually install an EK02-based ROM. If you want to stick to stock with just the new modem and kernel, and keep root, I recommend the UnNamed ROM that was recently posted. It's basically a rooted, debloated stock with CIQ removed.
Basically exactly what I was looking for.
It also includes the latest CWM, making future flashes nice and easy.

ReubenRene said:
Thanks for the advice guys I truly appreciate it....will probably just wait like you said and until then just keep clearing the notification.
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There was a trick to keeping it cleared until you reboot when i had my nexus s, but i can't remember what it was. Try searching the the nexus s forums for it. It'll keep you from going insane from clearing it 20times a day.
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no OTA for me...
i have stock non-rooted phone. mine is running 2.3.4
i try and go into settings to update my system and it says i have the most current version. any reason it's not pushing to my phone yet?

any idea what the sprint update included? would it be worth reverting to a stock rom to get it?

jsny said:
i have stock non-rooted phone. mine is running 2.3.4
i try and go into settings to update my system and it says i have the most current version. any reason it's not pushing to my phone yet?
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no, not really. sprint said they'd be updating customers randomly from the 7th to like the 15th or so. maybe your number just hasnt been called yet.
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any idea what the sprint update included? would it be worth reverting to a stock rom to get it?
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Sprint said that its a minor update thats primary fixes are for:
- 4G Sprint Hotspot disconnects when in a phone call
- Radio loses signal and may require power cycle
Couldn't hurt i guess. But there are a bunch of roms already out there that are using the ek02 update. Just use one of those so you dont have to do double the work.

How will we know when we get an OTA ICS?

I'm a little concerned. With everyone here rooted and on custom roms, noone will get the OTA update. That means we have to rely on outside sources for the availability of that update. That also means we will have to unroot/go back to stock to get the update. That just seams like a lot of wasted time. I'm going back to stock right know so I don't waste any time.
Then again, maybe it would be better to get it a couple hours after it is released. I mean with sprints network pushing all those updates at once.... waiting might even be faster.

From what i've seen most of the time the ota is leaked here before its released.

speeddemon1891 said:
From what i've seen most of the time the ota is leaked here before its released.
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No that was not THE ota but an ota most of the leaks supported ota flash and we will know when the ICS kernel source is released and when you look at your phone and it says there is a firmware update lol

Lol i haven't received an ota on any device since i joined xda
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You will know. It will be posted on BGR, Brief Mobile, Android Police, etc. Sprint usually lets the world know a few days before the OTA is sent. Chances are it is that it will be the last RDF that is posted before they announce.

On the old Epic the source was usually dropped the night before the OTA started. There's always someone lurking on stock and you get a topic on the forum stating "Have OTA notification can someone help me pull it?"

So, in conclusion, there's no cause for alarm.

Plus not everyone here is rooted. There are those that prefer unrooted stock. I can't imagine why but they exist
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Wizard Knight said:
Plus not everyone here is rooted. There are those that prefer unrooted stock. I can't imagine why but they exist
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Like me!!
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Lol i thought sprint wasnt doing one for our phones!? Lol jk.. hope i dont miss the official ota update and source.. that would suck! Hahaha. Op, its impossible to miss it.. im sure there are many sprint ppl lurking these threads that will probably let us kno before it happens
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Seeing has how we've been waiting for months...and the E4GT is a popular phone I think you'll see something about it on every tech blog.

Wizard Knight said:
Plus not everyone here is rooted. There are those that prefer unrooted stock. I can't imagine why but they exist
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Rooting doesn't prevent the OTA from installing. Modifying or deleting system files with your root power is what causes the OTA to fail.
If you install the pre-rooted EL29 ODIN OneClick, the OTA will install file. It will disable your root, as all official OTAs do.

Won't our phones get the OTA notification regardless what build/ROM is installed?

Depends if the app that handles the updates was disabled/removed, never present, or still active.

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Depends if the app that handles the updates was disabled/removed, never present, or still active.
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Makes sense.
Do you know what app handles that and how to check and see if it's still in operation?

That was my thinking before too. When I first installed custom roms with ek02. I thought how I would have get the next OTA update. I just waited until the developer of the ROM i'm using updates it to the latest build. now I don't feel the need to accept any future OTA updats. Plus it will break root anyway, if you didn't change any system files. Might as well wait a few days and get the update with the ROM of your choice. you can always download the OTA update later on and install it manually if you want too. I wouldn't worry too much about it.
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Esoteric68 said:
Makes sense.
Do you know what app handles that and how to check and see if it's still in operation?
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I think it is System Updates, but might be Smart Device Manager.
The process to check for updates is distinct from the one that bugs you to install after it is downloaded. They may or may not be in the same app.

Why would you want the official OTA update when you can wait no more than a day and one of our amazing devs will have it rooted and ready to use like any other leak so far.
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elvelozpotosino said:
Why would you want the official OTA update when you can wait no more than a day and one of our amazing devs will have it rooted and ready to use like any other leak so far.
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LOL Glad I came to the second page... I was just about to post pretty much the same thing.

elvelozpotosino said:
Why would you want the official OTA update when you can wait no more than a day and one of our amazing devs will have it rooted and ready to use like any other leak so far.
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Oh trust me that's exactly what I'm going to do but was adding to the conversation for people truly curious and interested in receiving the OTA.
I don't see myself ever running plain old stock again. I'm too spoiled now. lol

Is it safe to install the 4.3 update?

I saw that all HTC One carrier variants (hopefully including verizon) will get the 4.3 update by October. Will it be harder to obtain root, s-off, or an unlocked bootloader with the update?
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Arbybear said:
I saw that all HTC One carrier variants (hopefully including verizon) will get the 4.3 update by October. Will it be harder to obtain root, s-off, or an unlocked bootloader with the update?
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There will be custom Roms far before the ota. Never ever take an ota...
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cstrife999 said:
There will be custom Roms far before the ota. Never ever take an ota...
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unless you're not rooted
Then go ahead and take the OTA.
I know I'll take the 4.3 update if I'm not rooted.

crazyg0od33 said:
unless you're not rooted
Then go ahead and take the OTA.
I know I'll take the 4.3 update if I'm not rooted.
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I still wouldn't. Who says that we find a security hole on current version but not the new one then you're still stuck.
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cstrife999 said:
I still wouldn't. Who says that we find a security hole on current version but not the new one then you're still stuck.
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well with everyone saying that nobody wants to release a root exploit that'll be patched by 4.3, I would guess that devs would rather root 4.3 than 4.2.2

I am not sure if it works this way with bootloader unlocking and all but I remember reading back in the Windows XP days that exploits would come out after a patch. The exploit guys would see what was patched and then exploit that knowing not everyone had applied the update. So I am going to wait a little bit if an OTA comes out just in case someone can look at what was patched and find a way in.

If you want root, never take an OTA.
End. Of. Story.
If you do not.
OTA away
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Character Zero said:
I am not sure if it works this way with bootloader unlocking and all but I remember reading back in the Windows XP days that exploits would come out after a patch. The exploit guys would see what was patched and then exploit that knowing not everyone had applied the update. So I am going to wait a little bit if an OTA comes out just in case someone can look at what was patched and find a way in.
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THIS is exactly why you DO NOT EVER take an OTA if you want root.
prime example, the SG4 just got an OTA, it literally didn't update much of anything except take root + recovery away from those foolish enough not to listen to the warnings

I'm unlocked and I usually run stock Rom's. When the first OTA came out I just took it. I lost root but all I had to do was flash my super su zip and I was back in business. Why wouldn't I just be able to do the same with this next OTA?

dabomb697 said:
I'm unlocked and I usually run stock Rom's. When the first OTA came out I just took it. I lost root but all I had to do was flash my super su zip and I was back in business. Why wouldn't I just be able to do the same with this next OTA?
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Verizon blocking that exploit...

Never_ever_ever
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Look at what happened with the Galaxy S4... the OTA killed them.

dspcap said:
Look at what happened with the Galaxy S4... the OTA killed them.
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we got the safestrap but, yea NEVER OTA!
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Never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever.... ever take an ota! There is literally no reason to because a custom ROM based on out will be out soon.
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123421342 said:
Never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever.... ever take an ota! There is literally no reason to because a custom ROM based on out will be out soon.
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It makes so much sense, I am confused why people decide that an OTA is better than an OTA with root?
no patience I believe.
me wants 4.3 NOW
in all reality it'll prob be mostly security fixes and some software fixes like camera, unless VZW actually does us a solid and gets an OTA out to fix that damn bug

It's like this, most uninformed people would rather be able to say they have 4.3 while their friends may only have 4.2 still. "I'm better, my number is higher." Intel played that game with the Pentium 4 back in the day. Just because they had a 2Ghz processor didn't mean the AMD counterpart at 1.46Ghz didn't rip it a new one.
Same goes here. With the newer patches and updates come new FIXES, which is exactly what we don't want. Our wonderful devs here are doing the same things the guys who work with the Verizon updates are... Finding exploits and if Verizon finds them first and you end up patching with an OTA, well you're screwed then aren't you?
Just say no to OTA.

Is there a way to be sure OTA won't get installed? I can remember waking up in the morning to find my Rezounds sitting at the yellow triangle due to failed OTA's that I never initiated? Had the same thing happen on a friends DINC2. I recall deleting otacerts.zip from /system/etc/security to prevent this, does this still apply today?
Being Dev Unlocked worst case is I would have to reunlock using the Unlock_code.bin I have saved?

People keep asking this question for every device whenever there's an OTA on the way. Tons of people go out of their way to warn them not to take an OTA ever if they're interested in root. I say just let them learn from their mistakes.

m4rk0358 said:
People keep asking this question for every device whenever there's an OTA on the way. Tons of people go out of their way to warn them not to take an OTA ever if they're interested in root. I say just let them learn from their mistakes.
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that's a great way to contribute to the forum. good job. :laugh:
OR
we could help the new users out and save them from making the same mistakes you or I may have made.

m4rk0358 said:
People keep asking this question for every device whenever there's an OTA on the way. Tons of people go out of their way to warn them not to take an OTA ever if they're interested in root. I say just let them learn from their mistakes.
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You only take an update if already locked down. Many of these kids are noobs like YOU and don't know better, NO do not take an update unless we tell you it is safe. We can pull what is needed to make it safe.
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WareDat said:
Is there a way to be sure OTA won't get installed? I can remember waking up in the morning to find my Rezounds sitting at the yellow triangle due to failed OTA's that I never initiated? Had the same thing happen on a friends DINC2. I recall deleting otacerts.zip from /system/etc/security to prevent this, does this still apply today?
Being Dev Unlocked worst case is I would have to reunlock using the Unlock_code.bin I have saved?
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Not sure. Been away from HTC for awhile. More than likely the code will no longer work. They are blowing Q-fuses on a lot of these devices now to permanently kill RW of the bootloader like old Moto devices. Search and find the files that allow update if on stock. The devs should have already disabled on any custom roms.

steddora said:
It's like this, most uninformed people would rather be able to say they have 4.3 while their friends may only have 4.2 still. "I'm better, my number is higher." Intel played that game with the Pentium 4 back in the day. Just because they had a 2Ghz processor didn't mean the AMD counterpart at 1.46Ghz didn't rip it a new one.
Same goes here. With the newer patches and updates come new FIXES, which is exactly what we don't want. Our wonderful devs here are doing the same things the guys who work with the Verizon updates are... Finding exploits and if Verizon finds them first and you end up patching with an OTA, well you're screwed then aren't you?
Just say no to OTA.
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Dude... My best friend had his pentium 4 at 3 GHz get its ass beat by my 3200+ at what was it like 2.1. The bus of AMD chips made the difference for sure. I remember that fondly lol

Verizon HTC One S-Off Discussion Thread

Here is a place to discuss the current methods of S-Off.
We have Sonic2765's java card which will always work, and a promised method from beaups.
Sonic's Java Card will work on any device.
Sonic's thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2427960
Beaups method will work on any device even with the minor OTA that was released.
So, it seems safe to take the OTA, but I am not responsible if this is incorrect.

This is amazing! Was waiting for this since I didn't have another phone to use so I could send mine to Sonic. Also glad that beaups said that it WILL work with the latest OTA! Just glad for an exploit since my original One had to be exchanged...

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Beaups method will work on any device even with the minor OTA that was released.
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That, sir, is great news. Cause I'm sick of getting reminded to update..

Any idea if he hopes to release sometime soon? Or after 4.3 is released?

More than likely after 4.3 would be my guess. We wouldn't want verizon to include a fix for the exploit with 4.3 causing a delay in the release. I don't know for sure, just my guess.
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Yea, I think waiting would be a good idea.. AT&T certified their 4.3 recently and it's rolling out now.. hopefully VZW is not far behind. I need FREEDOM!!

Shame... VZ is supposed to release it at the very end of October. Personally, I would rather have it released now

I mean, if he just released it and we had a thread warning everyone wouldn't that be fine?

This is awesome news!
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grishky said:
I mean, if he just released it and we had a thread warning everyone wouldn't that be fine?
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I agree, most of us will be running custom roms anyway, so there would be no reason really to ota, and also no reason why someone won't just make a safe flashable zip for us after ota is released... The only way the soff method would suck is if they patched it and people with replacement after the update, or just new phone owners wouldn't be able to do it, which is kinda a big deal...
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It just needs to be released now. Everyone knows or should know not to take an ota. Ones who takes it well they deserve to possibly be blocked from the exploit. Is he waiting because there maybe issues with his method? Seemed like in the past when an exploit was found it was released rather quickly. Waiting for 4.3 on Verizon will be waiting 6 months. They never released an update when they said they would.
Just give us the root method and collect your bounty
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I don't know shall we wait until after 4.3? I suppose even if we wait nothing will stop Verizon from releasing a small ota even after the 4.3 release to patch the exploit. so waiting may not have much benefit ..
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daavvis said:
I agree, most of us will be running custom roms anyway, so there would be no reason really to ota, and also no reason why someone won't just make a safe flashable zip for us after ota is released... The only way the soff method would suck is if they patched it and people with replacement after the update, or just new phone owners wouldn't be able to do it, which is kinda a big deal...
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There will always be that problem with getting replacement phones but with Verizon we know how slow they are for getting updates out. I remember the method for rooting the bolt was the same for years until ics came out.
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daavvis said:
I agree, most of us will be running custom roms anyway, so there would be no reason really to ota, and also no reason why someone won't just make a safe flashable zip for us after ota is released... The only way the soff method would suck is if they patched it and people with replacement after the update, or just new phone owners wouldn't be able to do it, which is kinda a big deal...
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yea...but someone who is going to s-off should have the common sense to read the forums before updating...plus most people that are planning on buying ones already have bought them

With the news of the root method found I am sure we will see many people who left the one come back and people considering the one but waiting for a root exploit will now buy the one.
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Super excited to see this happen. This phone is unreal running stock. I just hate having stock anything. I modify everything I own lol cars, computers, tablets, phones, u name it. If I buy it I tweek it.
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Dark Jedi said:
It just needs to be released now. Everyone knows or should know not to take an ota. Ones who takes it well they deserve to possibly be blocked from the exploit. Is he waiting because there maybe issues with his method? Seemed like in the past when an exploit was found it was released rather quickly. Waiting for 4.3 on Verizon will be waiting 6 months. They never released an update when they said they would.
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It will be released when beaups feels that it is ready to be released. He is probably taking his time to make the process as safe as possible for as many people as possible. Just because he found a method doesn't necessarily mean that it is safe and easy to use in its current form. Be patient and be glad that it exists at all.
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Thats a valid point, I just don't see benefit in waiting. but like nexus said, they could release a small patch right after 4.3 and we would have the same outcome. or they may find this exploit before we even release it and the will just patch it in 4.3 either way. But i would like to thank beaups for putting in the time and effort! I know this stuff isn't easy so thanks!

I wish he would make a thread so people could give him thanks and he could give us updates on the process.

I'm not waiting on any vzw updates. Just need to get everything done. It will be done "soon".

ND8 KitKat source is posted on the opensource page..here comes KitKat with 3.4 kernel

Let the ROM watch begin. Here comes ND8 KitKat. CNexus confirms that with this update we will finally be on a 3.4 kernel!
http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=sub&sub=F&searchValue=sph-l710
No, you can't install anything from this link. It's source for developers. But it means in the next day or so the roll out of ND8 KitKat will begin OTA.

It's great news.

And as always, don't just excitedly grab the update before you find out what's in it. We don't need another thread full of whiners.
There are plenty of competent people here who can modify the OTA if needed; the last time it took only a few days after the roll-out.

Awesome

Remember, if you get the notification, please try and get the actual file name of the update file and post it here. Once we have that name we can suss out the full download path of the file and it can be downloaded directly from the google server. In the past the path has been:
android.clients.google.com/packages/ota/sprint_samsung_l710/XXXXXXXXXXX
where the X's are replaced by the file name.
Post the filename here if you get it!

Noted.
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Whooo!! I can confirm that with this update we will finally be on a 3.4 kernel!
@poit kindly add this info the OP :thumbup:

This will breathe new life into the S3. Awesome.
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Cant wait for this one !
If this is anything like KitKat for the Note3 it will be a winner. My Note 3 got way faster when I updated to KitKat. It was the single biggest improvement I have ever seen on a device with an OS update and I started using Android when the Samsung Moment came out on Sprint !

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If this is anything like KitKat for the Note3 it will be a winner. My Note 3 got way faster when I updated to KitKat. It was the single biggest improvement I have ever seen on a device with an OS update and I started using Android when the Samsung Moment came out on Sprint !
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Agreed I remember using Android on my T-Mobile g1 when it was very first released
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This would be the page to watch at this point
http://support.sprint.com/support/a...ndUpdateTheSoftwareVersionOnYourSamsungGalaxy

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And as always, don't just excitedly grab the update before you find out what's in it. We don't need another thread full of whiners.
There are plenty of competent people here who can modify the OTA if needed; the last time it took only a few days after the roll-out.
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May I ask, what do you mean modify the OTA if needed?

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May I ask, what do you mean modify the OTA if needed?
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It means they can hax0r it so that it does not take away your phones ability to be rooted and pretty much boring.
So...They hax0r it, you continue to root it, then your phone continues to r0x0rs your b0x0rs all nightx0rs........:victory:

That's basically it. Things can be twisted around a bit if needed and any remaining bugs can be remedied.
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May I ask, what do you mean modify the OTA if needed?
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We can remove checks of your bootloader version, remove flashing of the new bootloader, etc.

Ah okay. Sounds good. So hold off until a stripped OTA is posted. Got it. Now to just find a 4.4.2 Rom that mimics The S4/5.

yeah im waiting for the @CNexus version.

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yeah im waiting for the @CNexus version.
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+1!

shekinahsmoke said:
yeah im waiting for the @CNexus version.
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As soon as I get a link/zip from someone :good:

Finally...now I can update the wife's and daughter's phones....JB really borked the daughters so much so that I told the wife not to update so this will finally relive me of having to answer "my phone keeps telling me to update something, should I?" questions...
And before someone yaps up about "why not root" - it's because I don't want to deal with the bugs/updates/mods on their phones and besides, Flixster (an app they both use a lot) doesn't work on rooted phones (until somebody releases an update to OTA Rootkeeper or other app that hides root).