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[Q] Do you regret your purchase/upgrade?

Hi Fellow Members from all over the World:
If you knew all the Desire HD issues before you buy it/upgrade, would have you bought it/upgraded?
Please post your comments and share youir experience!

I thought this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=817464 was dealing with this topic (backwards from your) very well ...why create another one?

not in the slighest i thought it was good to start with but today after some searching it was brought to life

M_T_M said:
I thought this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=817464 was dealing with this topic (backwards from your) very well ...why create another one?
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Mine is general AND has a poll, the other one is too specific and restrictive: proximity sensor and battery. In mine, you can vote and eventually explain why. That's why I created a new thread.

Absolutely not.
I had the nexus one before and thought DHD would be my secondary phone (I have to have two) but after playing with it for one hour I switched sim cards and never looked back.
One word - screen. When I look at the nexus screen now it looks like a toy.
Although I am a bit irritated about the speaker quality.

kuba1410 said:
Absolutely not.
I had the nexus one before and thought DHD would be my secondary phone (I have to have two) but after playing with it for one hour I switched sim cards and never looked back.
One word - screen. When I look at the nexus screen now it looks like a toy.
Although I am a bit irritated about the speaker quality.
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agreed, the speaker quality is terrible and so low

Hell no this phone rocks.
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By the way, I'll vote and answer when I get mine. I pre-ordered mine as I'm due to an upgrade and they said I'll get it tomorrow but I know the demand for the DHD is so high that it might take longer.

who knows said:
agreed, the speaker quality is terrible and so low
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Isn't it? You would expect more from a flagship phone and boasting "Dolby Mobile" and "SRS", the nexus one had none of these and although the speakers were rubbish too, they still where better then those on the DHD.

Absolutely not! I got mine yesterday & I LOVE it. I cant stop playing with it

Ignoring the battery issue (it's getting better after few charge cycles though), I don't regret it all.

today i took mine out for a solo test run for the first time. came off charge at 10am and 12 hours later has 35% battery, after 45 minutes of gps, 3 hours of wifi internet and and hour of angry birds. oh and 3 phone calls. thats not bad. this is after 8 complete charge cycles done over 4 days. when you use it heavily it dies quick, but pace yourself and it does juuuust fine.
the camera is shockingly bad though. white balance is terrible, focusing in anything but perfect light is crap, and the image quality is questionable.
and the ear speaker volume is a little quiet for calls in loud environments, but its CLEAR. i had no problems hearing what the other person was saying, even in a noisy cafe.

I'm not really shure if I would have bought it and these are the reasons why:
battery life is not that good, although I expected this so it's not really a reason, though I'd like to mention it
"Locations" only works with data connection, so what's the use of preloaded maps then? I want to see my location without having a data connection (when roaming abroad) but this is not possible, why not? such a shame. This should be possible. I even think it's ridicoulously easy to implement in a firmware update, though I wouldn't really know
Speaker is absolutely useless. I never hear it when it's in my pocket and to make matters worse, the vibrator is not one of the best either. It makes a lot more noise than it should and it just vibrates fast, not hard. The lower the frequency and the bigger the amplitude of the vibration, the harder you feel it. Every phone in this price range I ever had, had a better vibrator
camera quality is very disappointing. On the DHD's screen it all looks very nice and crisp, untill you copy the shot to your pc, bummer... I was expecting a serious improvement in quality, coming from an iPhone 3GS but sadly this is not true
setting up the dlna to work (if compatible, which it is rarely!) is harder than running to the store, buying a Nokia N8 + hdmi cable, transfer some movies to it and connect it to your tv. So, kinda useless...
is it really that much trouble to install a LED notification light that you can actually see from an angle?
Ok, flash in the browser works, but how... it's slow and laggy
to sum it up, the DHD is still a fantastic phone, but to me a flagship device should excell on EVERY field, or at least be way above average on every field. This means GPS solution + speaker + camera... everything! And it just doesn't, not even by a long shot.
Honestly I was expecting more from the DHD
for the moment I'm keeping it because I still feel there is no phone out there that can offer me this much, but as soon as Symbian revamps their UI, I'm going back to Nokia. On the insides, S60 is still a very good OS and I love it for its possibilities but sadly it looks like crap and we're too spoiled by iOS and Android to go back there...

kuba1410 said:
Isn't it? You would expect more from a flagship phone and boasting "Dolby Mobile" and "SRS", the nexus one had none of these and although the speakers were rubbish too, they still where better then those on the DHD.
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Dolby is when you use headset not the speaker
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kuba1410 said:
Absolutely not.
I had the nexus one before and thought DHD would be my secondary phone (I have to have two) but after playing with it for one hour I switched sim cards and never looked back.
One word - screen. When I look at the nexus screen now it looks like a toy.
Although I am a bit irritated about the speaker quality.
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Same here. And the colors on the N1 look way overdone. I don't even like to look at it. I read so much on the bad speaker, but I must say I think I have one the better ones I guess. The loudspeaker on mine is very good. I can make too loud sometimes. No distortion at any level. I actually like it. Better than my N1.

The phone arrived four days ago. No regrets yet...

Greenjinky said:
Absolutely not! I got mine yesterday & I LOVE it. I cant stop playing with it
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i bet you do

I've had this phone three weeks (I guess that makes me an old timer) and even now despite the much documented issues of speaker, battery life I can still say not only do I have no regrets, it's the best phone I have ever had.

matthiasdeblaiser said:
I'm not really shure if I would have bought it and these are the reasons why:
battery life is not that good, although I expected this so it's not really a reason, though I'd like to mention it
"Locations" only works with data connection, so what's the use of preloaded maps then? I want to see my location without having a data connection (when roaming abroad) but this is not possible, why not? such a shame. This should be possible. I even think it's ridicoulously easy to implement in a firmware update, though I wouldn't really know
Speaker is absolutely useless. I never hear it when it's in my pocket and to make matters worse, the vibrator is not one of the best either. It makes a lot more noise than it should and it just vibrates fast, not hard. The lower the frequency and the bigger the amplitude of the vibration, the harder you feel it. Every phone in this price range I ever had, had a better vibrator
camera quality is very disappointing. On the DHD's screen it all looks very nice and crisp, untill you copy the shot to your pc, bummer... I was expecting a serious improvement in quality, coming from an iPhone 3GS but sadly this is not true
setting up the dlna to work (if compatible, which it is rarely!) is harder than running to the store, buying a Nokia N8 + hdmi cable, transfer some movies to it and connect it to your tv. So, kinda useless...
is it really that much trouble to install a LED notification light that you can actually see from an angle?
Ok, flash in the browser works, but how... it's slow and laggy
to sum it up, the DHD is still a fantastic phone, but to me a flagship device should excell on EVERY field, or at least be way above average on every field. This means GPS solution + speaker + camera... everything! And it just doesn't, not even by a long shot.
Honestly I was expecting more from the DHD
for the moment I'm keeping it because I still feel there is no phone out there that can offer me this much, but as soon as Symbian revamps their UI, I'm going back to Nokia. On the insides, S60 is still a very good OS and I love it for its possibilities but sadly it looks like crap and we're too spoiled by iOS and Android to go back there...
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Very good points dude.

mancuk29 said:
Dolby is when you use headset not the speaker
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Didn't know that, any way, this till makes you think that speakers have some quality to them.
bobbyphoenix said:
Same here. And the colors on the N1 look way overdone. I don't even like to look at it. I read so much on the bad speaker, but I must say I think I have one the better ones I guess. The loudspeaker on mine is very good. I can make too loud sometimes. No distortion at any level. I actually like it. Better than my N1.
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Actually, the my first impression was: Nice, big screen, but the colors are off.
I had a black wallpaper on my N1, put the same on DHD and it looked bleached.
After over one week of usage I have no reservations as to the colors, the screen is pure brilliance, I am never going back to a <4.3" screen.
You must be lucky with the speaker. Youtube is nigh unusable without headphones.

geek.com - post honeymoon

http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/post-honeymoon-with-the-galaxy-nexus-2012021/

yep, still like mine. I hated the camera and no external storage option from the start, so no surprises there

pretty much my feedback too..
Battery life could be better - but I have external battery packs that are in my backpack so no worries. Camera could be better - but the video capture in daylight is actually very good. would love sd card support.. but 32gb and cloud services is 'good enough' for now.. only thing that really bugs me is graininess in low light on the screen. and WHERE is 4.0.3 OTA???
BTW anyone notice how amazing the bluetooth is on this thing?
Almost all of my (stereo) headsets used to cut out on my other devices when in my pockets at some point or another.. this one's rock solid even accross the room w/ the same headsets..
-m

Yea, the BT on here is great. It pairs instantaneously.

I'm right in line with that review. If they would have put the same camera that was in the GSII, it would be a near-perfect phone. The camera in my Sprint GSII was amazing, the clarity of the pics was awesome.

More agreement
Definitely don't disagree with anything in there.
I'd have to add that the speaker volume is weak and exceptionally 'thin'. I miss notifications all of the time even at the highest volume setting. Or, that could be due to a notification bug where it doesn't even play the notification tone. Sigh.
Great phone with three weak spots:
camera
speaker
battery life
ICS a big buggy

haydonxda said:
Definitely don't disagree with anything in there.
I'd have to add that the speaker volume is weak and exceptionally 'thin'. I miss notifications all of the time even at the highest volume setting. Or, that could be due to a notification bug where it doesn't even play the notification tone. Sigh.
Great phone with three weak spots:
camera
speaker
battery life
ICS a big buggy
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Same here. I don't disagree if they can get a permanent solution for the volume (yes I'm using volume+) then the phone would be pretty good in my book. Surprisingly though I have absolutely no issues with battery life it makes it from 6am to 10pm with no issues. However if I have a late night out.....I need to rip out the back-up.

Can the camera not be improved via a software tweak? Say the next update to 4.0.3 for example?
I think the battery life is pretty good with 4.0.2. I'm coming from the Galaxy S2 and Samsung Focus.
I wish the app would close when I do swipe to the right.

Battery is fine! I bought the Sammy 2000mah tho.
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[hfm] said:
Battery is fine! I bought the Sammy 2000mah tho.
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How are you finding the "girth"?

I'm using the GSM version and battery life is amazing. Very comparable to my iPhone 4, perhaps better. I am running a 4.03 ROM.
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What would you like to see on the Note 3?

I know the Note 3 won't come out till mid to late next year. What improvement or features would you like to see? Let me start.
1.8-2.0 ghz quad core processor, 3500+ mah battery, 5.5" screen is big enough, output projector, 3gb ram, 3-5mp front camera, better camera lens, android 4.2-5.0, 1080p display, super loud speaker with no distortion.
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Teleportation, Invisibility cloaking and time traveling features.
but seriously, the Note 2 just got here and I am finding cool new features that I love. I would want more s-pen capability, more multi tasking features, of course latest version of Android, Screen recording as shown on the ad, maybe a better design of the phone. So far I love the phone and spend more time on it than on a computer.

What I would like to see from the Note 3? Since the Note 2 just came out I couldn't say off hand. The one thing I would love to see from Samsung is a product delivered to every market with the same features.

Wireless charging through all models for starters. As for the rest it would depend on what is out for the tech behind the third. I do think it is already big enough, so lets hope they don't try to push the size up anymore.

Bluetooth headset S pen which charges when put back into the slot.
1080P display

Keep everything the same relative to other future devices.
Increase the screen to make it king of the hill.
-In cell
-Response time
-ppi
-etc...

- Six-Core Processor
- 4 GB RAM
- 1080HD Screen
- MAKING UPDATES AVAILABLE RIGHT AWAY! NO BLOATWARE.

Also a 6" screen.
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"50" inch projector

I think the screen shouldnt get much bigger, maybe they could take out a bit from the size and top bezel, but I already accidentally hit onscreen buttons when trying to hit back or menu. That or maybe just go to virtual keys and keep the phone the same size but almost all screen. It's hard to say though.
1080 screen because why not? Also I would like the multitasking to go up, primarily maybe have a dock mode that pretty much turns the phone into a chrome book, so then something like the laptop dock would make more sense. That way I could bring around a really light laptop (as it would pretty much be a keyboard, screen, battery, and connector) that I could hook my phone up to and get a 1080 display that's 12+", and I also wouldn't have to worry about which files were located where (minus google drive, which I mostly use, so it's not a big deal really).
Umm, increased battery life, and increased internal memory. Pretty much, let me replace my work laptop, even if I still need a gaming laptop for some windows only games. Also maybe something that would let me run desktop linux software... but that again is up to google more than samsung really.

Every Note 3 released with the same hardware features.
Every Note 3 with wireless charging.
5.75 to 6" screen.
The option to show signal strength in dbm on the notification bar, this is incredibly useful when using the phone as a wireless hot spot.

Cleary it will be slightly better than the S4 but I love it thus far . IF we make it passed 12/21/12 I wont upgrade unti the Note 4
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20nm CPU 6" screen 8 cores
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Lolll most of the people complained about the note2s price and all of you are describing a handset that would easily cost almost a grand. Doubt it will happen anytime soon loll
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1080 Res would be nice. Bigger battery. Remove the home and touch buttons and add buttons like the Nexus devices. Wireless charging out the box. Some extra buttons on the s pen to launch apps or quicker access to gestures. I would like to see Touchwiz taking advantage of the larger screen. Still running a 4 x 4 grid on a 5.5 screen makes no sense. Official desk and car docks that support cases and have wireless charging ability. More crafty and cleaver official accessories.
I would like to see dual micro sdcard slot. Our phones are becoming our laptops. Slap in two 64gb cards or by than, when the normal is 128gb. Having two 128gb cards would be outstanding.

jghidalgo307 said:
Lolll most of the people complained about the note2s price and all of you are describing a handset that would easily cost almost a grand. Doubt it will happen anytime soon loll
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Last year our phone would have not been possible or cost at least a grand. Next year our hopes won't be as expensive as they would be right now. What is your point?

degeneration said:
Last year our phone would have not been possible or cost at least a grand. Next year our hopes won't be as expensive as they would be right now. What is your point?
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Just pointing out that lots of people complained about this price, many more will complain with features being described and such. Then again this is a thread for what would you WANT to see on the next note and not what we WILL see on it.
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That does remind me though. Something hardware related and something not. Hardware related, perhaps an eraser on the s-pen you get with the device. Secondly, more software support for creative/drawing-type apps, but that will come in time with more adoption of s-pen devices.

Vanilla android
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1080P is necessary - I can see the pixels when I remove my glasses. Also virtual function keys coz pushing home with the s-pen is interrupting. Can't think anymore, vanilla android or no bloatware is contradicting the company's business strategy so not realistic
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How is it so far?

Hi all, haven't got one yet and still have my n7 (2012). They're are sold out right now at my local store. My question is what the title says. How is it? I haven't got the chance to get one in my hands yet. Is it leaps and bounds better!? I've read reviews and check forums and am still unsure if I want one. Any opinions are appreciated.
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Just read some of the threads.
There are some issues with the screens right now on some devices. Still worth the risk as it is a huge upgrade to the 2012 Nexus 7. No more lag, unbelievable screen, lighter, and thinner. Definitely worth the money.

Well, I usually do not do reviews of mainstream devices, since that is well covered by the "big boys",
But I was secretly waiting for an opportunity to make some comments:
In short, it is an incredible tablet.
Much nicer to hold than any other tablet I've owned/tried. I really like how thin it is, and the texture of the back.
I handed it to my son, and he loaded one of these games where you control something using the accelerometers. He has a Nook Color (With CM7), so he has a similar device to compare it too. He immediately commented how nice it was to hold and play the game.
The screen is incredible too. Way more resolution than my old eyes need, but even with my glasses things look great.
Web pages look more Desktop-like than any other tablet, including 10 inchers. Page rendering is also desktop fast. (Actually faster than this 10+ year old AMD machine I am typing on now, even with lots of RAM, and Xubuntu 12.04, which I credit with prolonging it's life this long).
WiFi, Works great with solid connections, great speed and lots of (indicated) signal. (As compared to other devices).
An iDM5 combination bluetooth speaker, and keyboard paired over BT with no problem at all. I am also using an Apple magic mouse. All re-connect quickly too.
Works (as one would expect) seemlessly with my Chromecast.
Another big plus for me was Standard USB charging. Pretty much anything charges it with no problem.
Now the complaints:
Yes, it has stereo speakers, but they are not that loud or great sounding. Using the EQ in Google Music does not help. Attempting to add Bass only causes it to sound muffled.
I have a Huawei u9508 with 2 speakers on the back, near the bottom (close together). It gives me more volume, more bass, and more stereo effect (OK, that last one may just be a perception thing).
Take the stereo speakers out of your purchasing decision. As of right now, it effectively does not have any better audio than a (than some) single speaker tablet(s).
To be clear (pun) The sound is by no means bad, it's just disapointing considering all the Fraunhofer hype.
Lack of an SD slot almost made me not buy the Nexus. I really miss it. I have a lot of things that use those cards, and not being able to just slot them in the Nexus is a big hit.
I also wish Google would stop "Apple-izing" things. Android had USB Storage mode for most of it's life. I wish it still did. Yes, there are work-arounds, and perhaps it is "safer" not to have it, but it is a clear case of "Defective by Design", in my opinion.
I miss the standard Android (AOSP) Browser and Music Player. (See these forums for installing the AOSP browser, and recommendations for other audio players.)
I do like the fact that it is (except for the Google Stuff) bloat-ware free. It is a very clean, fast, and good-looking factory ROM (I'm an Android purist.)
Also, you know that the community will support the device for years to come, whether or not Google does.
I have not tried Qi charging or NFC.
Should you buy one?
Well, you should not buy any other 7 inch tablet over this one -- I think that is pretty clear.
It is just a question if you need a (another) 7 inch tablet. In my case, I really needed a new tablet. My Archos 80 G9 was (something I cannot describe here with out getting banned) on the day it was made, and I had dissasembled it many times to fix broken USB connections, etc. Lately it would reboot everytime I squeezed the case a bit too hard.
Alternatives I concidered:
Acer A700 -- Same True HD resolution on a 10" screen -- SD card slot -- Dolby Stereo Speakers -- NVIDIA Tegra 3.
Chinese iFive X2 -- Same True HD resolution on an 8.9" screen -- SD card slot -- Front facing stereo speakers -- USB charging.
Say what you want about Chinese tablets, but the iFive X2 was the only one that really met my requirements (desirements). If you believe the iFive website, and some of the reviews, it actually looks like the build quality is pretty good. I may still buy one.

Awesome, zero complaints. Don't let all the negative threads get you down, mine arrived flawless shipped from New York to Ontario, Canada.
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Linuxslate said:
In short, it is an incredible tablet.
Much nicer to hold than any other tablet I've owned/tried. I really like how thin it is, and the texture of the back.
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So true...
It was the first thing I noticed after opening the box and even after 1 week, I am still amazed by the weight, the texture and how fast everything is... Switching between apps is so fun now
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My God is it ever amazing. Such a huge upgrade over last gens model. It is a joy to do everything with this tablet. Feels and looks oh so premium as well. Unbelievable how it costs so little in comparison to other tablets. I don't want to type an extremely long review, but even if I did, words cannot express how happy I am with this tablet.
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Awesome.
I was convinced last year that the original nexus 7 was too small so I got the iPad mini which was great for 6+ months. After I downloaded iOS 7 I thought what a joke ios7 will be and in general for traveling the mini was a major pain(loading movies, documents etc for offline use).
So recently I replaced my mini with a note8 for 2 weeks traveling and thought this is a keeper...then the new nexus 7 came out and I picked it up with the plans to return it after some testing....WOW I ended up returning the note 8 and keeping the N7!
No regrets...love the form factor even with a few hiccups (sometimes screen will just pause for a second and rare crashes).
SO I am using my N7 so much I might sell my Samsung s4 and get something cheaper (I.e. nexus 4) since it just sits when at home.
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This is my first tablet ever. And the second android device. The first being HTC Desire, which after OC-ing didn't feel bad.
But I wanted something that could deliver superb performance without the whole process of rooting, unlocking and flashing. So I bought this one, and I can say that this one's the best I've used ever. I have had my hands on those iPads some of my friends have, but they don't sound all that convincing.
There have been no lags at all that I have been able to identify. But still, I'm planning on going through the fun of rooting unlocking and flashing process. Just because I'm a flashaholic.
Regarding the device itself, I have found that the display is more blue-oriented. It has a much colder display than my HTC Desire. But it does look good on it. The data transfer speeds are superb. No performance issues so far. Battery lasts about two days, since I don't actively use it, occasional wifi and browsing, but no more than that. I mainly read books on it, and have successfully devoured 5 books in two weeks (I'm an avid reader , never mind). Others have been facing Wifi issues, but not me. Mine seems adequate. I've got a 3mbps connection in my country, which is the fastest here
There is some dust on the upper left corner, but since there are no dead pixels, I haven't returned mine for the fear of getting a dead-pixels-infected one. I use the tablet without any external peripherals, apart from my custom made earphones, which give a good amount of clear sound with good levels of bass, even without any audio mod.
I don't use the stock things, no... That's right, I've never learned how to use those For music, I have PowerAmp, for movies, MXPlayer, for pictures, QuickPic, for internet, OperaMini, the legendary ES for file browsing, and upcoming root mode
So far, all these apps have been superb in performance at least compared to my HTC Desire.
I should probably be saluting Asus and Google, for this combined effort to hand us quadcore Snapdragon 1.5 GHz, HD display equipped, nice tablet for under 30k in my country.

Thanks for the in depth answers. Went and got one at office max Friday. Last one with too plus a 20% discount from my boys at drippler.. App. Haven't even opened it yet Lol waiting on my screen protector n case from amazon. Now what to do with the old one?
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pros and cons of nexus 7 2013?

everything is great on this new nexus 7.
but what are the cons?

How about some nice light bleeds in corners, or some dust under screen?
Oh wait, you haven't got them, right?
Here comes an update that kills your touch, hahahaaahahahaaa (said Google in Voldemort's most petrifying voice)
What the #$%@@? your touch is still intact...? well I've got an update that will kill your wifi. How about that huh....?

Doesn't have micro SD slot.
Doesn't have a snapdragon 800.
Doesn't have 4GB of ram.
Doesn't have a 4K screen.
Doesn't come with a chicken... Every top stuff comes with plus a chicken.

Pros:
BEAUTIFUL screen. It is gorgeous and very bright. You can't really say that about many tablets. It almost reaches to the level of my old Transformer Prime at 600 nits (it's about 583 nits at brightest)
Fast. This quad core S600-esque processor is so much faster than anything I've had for mobile. It's one of the reasons I upgraded
Cheap. It's $230 or $270. I got the $270 32GB which is roomy enough for my needs.
Long battery. I haven't had it for long, but I can already tell it is going to last almost as long as my TFP.
Small and can be held in a single hand.
REALLY good wifi reception.
GPS that works very well even inside
It's stock Google and will be updated as soon as KitKat or future Android upgrades come out. Plan for 2+ years of upgrades and support.
Loud stereo speakers
Support for practically any 3G/LTE data connection you'd like in the US.
Unlocked bootloader. You can modify anything inside this tablet.
Grippy matte-plastic back.
Sexy look, IMO
Thin and light.
Bluetooth Smart and 4.0 support. This will increase in popularity with wearable Bluetooth devices.
Cons:
Small screen. I think I would be happier with an 8" screen, but it's something I can live with.
No microSD slot. This is something that I can live with, and if you want, you can get a microUSB to microSD adapter.
Non-removable battery. You won't worry about this unless you are truly a road warrior. It should last you till you want to upgrade or longer.
No micro HDMI port. This, again, can be something I live with. You can use MHL I believe if you need it.
No TouchWiz or other OEM skins. Nothing I lose sleep over, just something for those who find the skinned editions of Android better than regular stock.
No camera flash. Doesn't bother me, I don't plan on taking pictures much with this tablet.
A few launch issues, maybe. It seems to be not too big (there are many users who probably don't have problems than the people who complain about it here) and is being resolved fairly quickly.
No vibrator. My hands miss the vibrations of my TFP, but it's ok.
No longer has a secure element with NFC. This means no more Google Wallet or other NFC-banking apps. You can still beam contacts and such. Not a big deal.
No 802.11ac wifi support. This isn't a big thing yet and is still just starting to get into mainstream routers. With the life time of your tablet, you probably won't see many AC routers until 2 years from now, and you probably won't be missing much. People still use .11g standards to this day.
The speakers apparently emit a hiss at low volume due to some digital volume reduction instead of using an actual amplifier.

swisstourist said:
everything is great on this new nexus 7.
but what are the cons?
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Drop tests show no survivals. Get a case or else, which might increase weight and size.
There is only T-Mobile offering Lte in USA. Verizon clueless on imei. Checking at&t Lte again tomorrow, but no tethering regardless.

Cons. Random reboots
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usb otg support with stock rom?

With NMI, yes.
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Cons. Random reboots
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https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/mG4JXaT-SHs[751-775-false]
And in some cases, even a custom ROM just holds the issue at bay for a while...

For me two things are the keyfeatures:
Price + size. I had an iPad, big tablets are not what I wanted.

owerner said:
For me two things are the keyfeatures:
Price + size. I had an iPad, big tablets are not what I wanted.
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you could get the ipad mini...

swisstourist said:
you could get the ipad mini...
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yea... *price*

I don't think there are any real cons to this tablet. Just personal preferences. Even the speaker hiss isn't noticeable unless you have ear pressed against the speaker. Overall its a very solid tablet.
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swisstourist said:
you could get the ipad mini...
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And use their locked down OS?!?!?!
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I've had no problems such as the aforementioned dust or light bleeds. Rooted out of the box, put carbon on it, never had a random reboot either.

The only con so far is that I can't use my 8-bitty Bluetooth gamepad. The new Bluetooth stack doesn't support it.
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swisstourist said:
everything is great on this new nexus 7.
but what are the cons?
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Here are some cons I am experiencing:
1.) BT unusable while connected to a 2.4 GHz WiFi:
http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/ORce7P9V4qU
I'll sell mine if they can't fix it.
2.) Ugly downscaling from 1920x1200 to 1728x1080 if using slimport/HDMI:
http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/mobile/cgKZEwu4CZg
"Workaround": Resolution Changer (root access req.!) from play store
3) Bad multi-touch behavior:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2381123
Apart from the display resolution (that's what I've bought it for) and the CPU/GPU performance (I don't care - I'm not a gamer), my old Galaxy Tab 7.7 is much better.
regards
TrashX

Actually if your lucky like me I dropped mine today actually the screen kinda popped loose a little it cut off my heart stopped lol (literally) but I snapped the screen in turned right on I almost cried lol only thing it did was deleted some apps I had weird but no issues now and still looks new
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