[Q] Ouya vs Android stick - Ouya Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all, trying to weigh up an Ouya and an Android stick (MK908ii). My requirements are as follows:
Smooth playback of XBMC,
Android games (Such as Fifa 14, GTA etc)
Frequent firmware and ROMs
Android root only apps such as ad blockers etc.
I've looked through YouTube to find a video of someone using the play store to see what the app compatibility is like but i can't find anything. We already have an MK908ii android stick for the living room also I know it can do all of the above, I'm just trying to work out if the Ouya can too.

Zak_k said:
Hi all, trying to weigh up an Ouya and an Android stick (MK908ii). My requirements are as follows:
Smooth playback of XBMC,
Android games (Such as Fifa 14, GTA etc)
Frequent firmware and ROMs
Android root only apps such as ad blockers etc.
I've looked through YouTube to find a video of someone using the play store to see what the app compatibility is like but i can't find anything. We already have an MK908ii android stick for the living room also I know it can do all of the above, I'm just trying to work out if the Ouya can too.
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I would say if you arent specifically looking to an OUYA just get whats cheaper

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Ouya and current Google Play Store games.

I am just curious can the Ouya play games that I already have purchased on the Google Play Store? I am interested in purchasing the Ouya but only if I can play my current games on it as well.
vbanagas said:
I am just curious can the Ouya play games that I already have purchased on the Google Play Store? I am interested in purchasing the Ouya but only if I can play my current games on it as well.
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In theory... I put Play Market on my Bluestacks and my games that weren't 3D ran fine. With the proper hardware (Ouya) the 3D ones shoudl run, too.
dibblebill said:
In theory... I put Play Market on my Bluestacks and my games that weren't 3D ran fine. With the proper hardware (Ouya) the 3D ones shoudl run, too.
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How would the controller work for this though?
No idea.
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timothycricket said:
How would the controller work for this though?
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Something like this would probably work very properly for the situation.
well they said we can root it so it should be very easy to install google play, so i see no reason why you couldn't. but some may be hard to play with the controller but we will see when we get there. hopefully mines here next month
Games on Ouya
I Plan to use Sixaxis Controller app with games that don't support controlers as i use it on my tablet and i can enable gamepad for showgun if needed. We need someone to test a gamepad supported game on the system with the Ouya controler to see if it works that way.
Does Ouya even have Google Play Store?
I heard it only has their own market (like Ouya Market)
I want my Ouya not only for games, but also a media centre. Like playing movies from HDD ext., browsing, twitter, facebook, and others applications from Play Store.
how cool is that :fingers-crossed:
it hasn't been stated one way or the other. If apps can be side loaded, then I would say even if it's there, you could extract Google Play and loaded it that way, as well as the apps you want. The only thing that isn't know, what apps will play nice with Ouya's interface using a controller. A lot of apps, if not all, are designed from a touch input design.
I don't know if there is anything that Google Play needs besides an Android OS to function. So there could be reasons it may not work despite being able to load it on the Ouya.
Ouya will have their own stores called "Ouya Store". All games are ported to support Ouya consoles.
Shadow Gun is confirmed to work on Ouya. Please wait for the rest announcement!
Search youtube for 'Ouya performance test' there is a guy with a dev console playing lots of current android games so should be able to.
Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't Ouya have a touchpad on the control? That would work the same as touching the screen as long as there is a mouse pointer on the screen or you could enable touch location in the developer settings.
Maybe the new Store is like tha Amazon Store.
Has someone read something about the payment methodes?
any update on if anyone has gotten working playstore on the console?
The Ouya has a custom launcher and all apps and games are required to be recompiled with custom tags in their manifest. Only apps with these custom tags show up in the Ouya UI.
So its possible to adb push the Store and a custom launcher APK but you need a way of switching back and forth.
If you are not using the Oyua UI you will not be able to take advantage of the custom Ouya services such as ranking systems and friends lists.
Play Store Authentication
vbanagas said:
I am just curious can the Ouya play games that I already have purchased on the Google Play Store? I am interested in purchasing the Ouya but only if I can play my current games on it as well.
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You have to be rooted to get Play Store on a non-rooted Device.
If you do get root, contact theperson333, I think he can help.
I'm no Expert.
DroidPlayer said:
You have to be rooted to get Play Store on a non-rooted Device.
If you do get root, contact theperson333, I think he can help.
I'm no Expert.
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That post was completely irrelevant
S4 INFO
bigd5783 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't Ouya have a touchpad on the control? That would work the same as touching the screen as long as there is a mouse pointer on the screen or you could enable touch location in the developer settings.
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Yes it has in the middle of the controller
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Ouya will be featuring its own app market, not Google play market. The system runs on android Jelly Bean, but that doesn't mean its the same as your tablet or phone. Customized UI and maybe a different file format for games (I'm assuming they're still apks though.) You can pick up the development tool on their website.
I hope they allow PayPal as a purchase method.

[Q] OUYA + CM11 + Games?

**This is NOT the typical "how can I get my OUYA **games on CM11"
Rather... anyone find any good Play Store games that can be played with OUYA controllers? If so I'd love to maintain a list here for myself and others. Bonus points if you can recommend Play Store games that use controller AND i can sit with friend(s) and all play on same TV (<-- this I cannot find at all)
Looking forward to some replies!
RECAP OF SOME SUGGESTIONS IN REPLY POSTS:
Ouya Downloader - download games that are in OUYA store - THANKS TO d0ubl3_d1zzl3, post #4
Game & App List - play store apks with documented OUY compatibility - THANKS TO ajb999, post #6
-KrazyKrivda
good question. from what I have gathered the best way to find games on the play store for ouya controller support is to use tegra zone as you can search for games that have controller support. maybe someone will chime in with a list or a better answer but that is what I have found so far.
Reicast (Dreamcast emulator) runs amazingly on Ouya with the controller.
You might wanna check out this app while it's still in the Play Store: Ouya Downloader
I just tested it this morning and it let me download games from the OUYA store w/o a problem. They installed fine, but didn't really get a chance to fully test them out as I'm running low on disk space (which is something else I'm working on); but judging by the filenames of the APKs, they seem to be the OUYA modified versions that will work with the controller. I'll continue testing tonight, but so far it looks quite promising.
d0ubl3_d1zzl3 said:
You might wanna check out this app while it's still in the Play Store: Ouya Downloader
I just tested it this morning and it let me download games from the OUYA store w/o a problem. They installed fine, but didn't really get a chance to fully test them out as I'm running low on disk space (which is something else I'm working on); but judging by the filenames of the APKs, they seem to be the OUYA modified versions that will work with the controller. I'll continue testing tonight, but so far it looks quite promising.
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I've used this for a few games. My favorite, Bombsquad, will not play. The app auto-shuts down because it doesn't recognize the system as ouya anymore. Have you run into this? And any idea what it may be checking (probably in buildprop) to counteract it?
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The second post at this link has a list of games/apps that work with the OUYA controller. Any that work with the stock OUYA launcher should work on cm11 as long as you have the OUYA controller kl file in place. Should be able to install the button mappings for controllers zip from the cm11 thread to get it.
http://ouyaforum.com/showthread.php...ames-amp-Applications-(Plus)-How-To-Side-Load
krazykrivda said:
I've used this for a few games. My favorite, Bombsquad, will not play. The app auto-shuts down because it doesn't recognize the system as ouya anymore. Have you run into this? And any idea what it may be checking (probably in buildprop) to counteract it?
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Yeah, doesn't seem like a reliable way of getting games.. I was able to download and install both Shadowgun and RetroArch directly on my Ouya, and RetroArch installed fine and seems to work fine, but Shadowgun installs and loads but stays stuck on the loading screen... I haven't tried installing Shadowgun via the Play Store yet, but seems like installing from that Ouya downloader is hit and miss...
Update: Shadowgun installs and loads fine via the Play Store. It also plays great. Just had to map all the buttons on the OUYA controller before I started to play.

Asphalt 8: Airborne Mod

I have xmodgames side loaded onto my rooted Amazon Fire TV with Asphalt 8 installed but the game will not show in the "My Games" section. I've been unable to find any information concerning this online. Is there a way for me to use the mod on my Fire TV?
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I have xmodgames side loaded onto my rooted Amazon Fire TV with Asphalt 8 installed but the game will not show in the "My Games" section. I've been unable to find any information concerning this online. Is there a way for me to use the mod on my Fire TV?
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Settings - Applications - Manage Applications - Asphalt 8
You might want to load up FireDTV Launcher (search for it), it's a launcher that will show you all the apps installed, not just the "official" amazon ones.
Maybe i need to be clearer. I'm not having trouble finding my apps - side loaded or not - in the FTV settings. I'm having trouble with one app, xmodgames. It should show a list of games that i have that are compatible with it. On the FTV it doesn't seem to work as it should. I'm wondering if anyone has a work around for it.
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Maybe i need to be clearer. I'm not having trouble finding my apps - side loaded or not - in the FTV settings. I'm having trouble with one app, xmodgames. It should show a list of games that i have that are compatible with it. On the FTV it doesn't seem to work as it should. I'm wondering if anyone has a work around for it.
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Sorry, no. Not sure why it would do that.

Shield (hopefully) now compatible with touch apps.

soo ive been crying since day one when i found out i couldnt play NOVA 3 on my newly bought shield, i thought about using a custom firmware but didnt want to lose functionality, i ended up adapting my 4tb hdd as internal memory so once i did that for me there was no goong back lol, so ive been trying to find a way to map controls and thought of everything and nothing seemed to work. sixaxis controller app didnt work when i tried a few times a year back but there has since been an update and now i can map the touch controls for nova and play perfectly so im guessing that opens up a lot more apps and games that require touch we couldnt use before but prob can now. For me this is the best early christmas present i could have asked for. Thought id let you lot know just in case ya didnt.
if you play Modern Combat 5, NOVA 3 or are generally into android online gaming, anything to do with Nvidia Shield, Kodi or Plex - join us https://discord.gg/XsMz44k http://droidshield.boards.net
I use Zulu full Android with game controller2touch it does wonders
Also I noticed we have good fps' for android and most of these games have no chat support which is odd. I play modern combat 5 a lot and have now made a server where we can use any windows, android or iOS device to use voice chat while in game. so download 'discord' free from play store, app store, website etc and join us here. Http://discord.gg/ThWtash. If you want to join our MC5 clan just ask.

What will I lose if I put full Android OS on the Shield ?

I've been hunting for an android box for over two months now. I never considered the Nvidia Shield because it comes with Android TV instead of regular Android. But I couldn't help not being enamored by the performance it offers. What I want is an Android box I can connect to my TV that will allow me to (1) run kodi (2) stream from an IPTV app (3) run emulators. I was about to pull the trigger on Minix U9, but the Tegra processor just sh*ts on everything out there. Today, I learned that I could actually run Android OS (Nougat) on the Shield. Why would anyone buy a Minix U9 for $160 when a much more powerful Shield goes for mere $40 extra ? I felt it was too good to be true. So, I'm here asking those of you that are running full Android on the Shield, is the full Android firmware stable in the sense that it's not just rife with bugs, and do I lose the ability to stream Netflix in 4k ?
After buying and configuring a few Android TV boxes, I decided on a Shield that would do 99% of what I want in a Android TV box that I would not have to root, etc. I found that the leanback launcher was less than desirable, the lack of Notification/Tool bars, Shield only apps on Playstore and some other annoying issues, I installed the developers copy of Shield TV (5.0.2) and found no way to have Notifications, etc. I have since installed full Android 1.0.3 and the box has everything that I need. I gave up automatic updates and some nVidia tools I was not using. I am not a gamer and I wanted the Shield for media. It does a nice job with Kodi on my 4K TV. I am Prime Video user and 4K works nicely. I would assume that Netflix would be the same. The install of full Android is tricky but doable. Another reason for rooting and installing full Android is that I use TWRP for Recovery. I have both stock 5.0.2 and rooted 5.0.2 on backup for Recovery if 1.3 goes south.
cjeman said:
After buying and configuring a few Android TV boxes, I decided on a Shield that would do 99% of what I want in a Android TV box that I would not have to root, etc. I found that the leanback launcher was less than desirable, the lack of Notification/Tool bars, Shield only apps on Playstore and some other annoying issues, I installed the developers copy of Shield TV (5.0.2) and found no way to have Notifications, etc. I have since installed full Android 1.0.3 and the box has everything that I need. I gave up automatic updates and some nVidia tools I was not using. I am not a gamer and I wanted the Shield for media. It does a nice job with Kodi on my 4K TV. I am Prime Video user and 4K works nicely. I would assume that Netflix would be the same. The install of full Android is tricky but doable.
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Have you ever tried running console emulators ? Also, I'm thinking of getting the Minix A2 remote for having a keyboard and it's air mouse functionality. Have you tried any air mouse on the Shield ?
No. I use a Logitech K400 wireless keyboard/mouse pad combo. I have read that air mice are not an issue.
You can do all three things you're after on Android TV. Is there something else that makes you want to have mobile Android?
JohnRossJennings said:
You can do all three things you're after on Android TV. Is there something else that makes you want to have mobile Android?
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I agree with John here too. You can do all three of your requests on the stock shield TV without rooting and custom ROMs. In fact the .emu emulators from Robert work great and use the shield controller perfectly.
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I do all what you want to do with my shield, without even rooting. Go for it, it deserves every penny.
abo_mara7 said:
I do all what you want to do with my shield, without even rooting. Go for it, it deserves every penny.
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I've made up my mind to go for the shield. For $40 extra (over the $160 priced Minix U9), I get a much more powerful system and is gets OS upgrades down the road. The only thing I was worried about was installing android apks and having to go through a very cumbersome path of launching them every time. Is there a way now to launch apps directly from the home screen ? If I can do that, I don't see a reason to even install full android OS.
medwatt said:
I've made up my mind to go for the shield. For $40 extra (over the $160 priced Minix U9), I get a much more powerful system and is gets OS upgrades down the road. The only thing I was worried about was installing android apks and having to go through a very cumbersome path of launching them every time. Is there a way now to launch apps directly from the home screen ? If I can do that, I don't see a reason to even install full android OS.
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Yes you can side load and then use chainfires sideload launcher to open them. Works pretty good. The sideload launcher is on the Android TV play store. Also es file explorer is available to help sideload apks. You can also transfer apks over your network using a computer or download from apkmirror. All with the stock out of the box os.
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No point what so ever in using a crappy 3rd party launcher. There's an app in the play store to put side loaded apps on the lean back launcher home screen
techjunky90 said:
No point what so ever in using a crappy 3rd party launcher. There's an app in the play store to put side loaded apps on the lean back launcher home screen
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What app is that? Would love to try it!
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Acid0057 said:
What app is that? Would love to try it!
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I think its called WBS App Drawer. Its available on the Shield Google Playstore and its free.
Works very well.
medwatt said:
I've made up my mind to go for the shield. For $40 extra (over the $160 priced Minix U9), I get a much more powerful system and is gets OS upgrades down the road. The only thing I was worried about was installing android apks and having to go through a very cumbersome path of launching them every time. Is there a way now to launch apps directly from the home screen ? If I can do that, I don't see a reason to even install full android OS.
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First, install Opera browser (there's TV version from Opera, use this one if you use the remote, else use the regular version, better with the controller. Please note that the controller's right stick will work as a mouse)
TV Version:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-player/themes-apps/opera-tv-browser-2-0-t3543518
Regular version:
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/opera-software-asa/opera/opera-42-8-2246-118317-release/
if you got opera, you can sideload any app from there.
After you've sideloaded your apps, install TV App Repo (
@Acid0057):
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=news.androidtv.tvapprepo.playstore
There you'll find all your sideloaded apps, and from there, you can create shortcuts for them in your main screen.
And I second your statement, no need for full Android OS.
To answer a previous question from you, I've installed the following emulators:
Play! (Too slow, still in early stage I guess)
Dolphin (Some games works pretty well, you just need to play with the settings)
PPSSPP (Works very well in HD)
FPSE (I've switched to OpenGL from settings and set the resolution to HD and it works greatly)
GPA.emu (work very well)
Those are the ones I tried, Arc Browser app is good to combine all emulator games in one place.
Also, some Android games although they're listed as not supporting Android TV, they indeed are. For example, LIMPO.
Also if you want to stream games from your PC and you don't meet Nvidia's GameStream requirements, you can try Remotr:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.remotrapp.remotr
Simple app, setup is the easiest, and the controller will work out of the box, actually all you need to do is to install the app on the shield and the server app on your pc.
Those are some of the tips to maximize your experience.
abo_mara7 said:
First, install Opera browser (there's TV version from Opera, use this one if you use the remote, else use the regular version, better with the controller. Please note that the controller's right stick will work as a mouse)
TV Version:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-player/themes-apps/opera-tv-browser-2-0-t3543518
Regular version:
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/opera-software-asa/opera/opera-42-8-2246-118317-release/
if you got opera, you can sideload any app from there.
After you've sideloaded your apps, install TV App Repo (
@Acid0057):
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=news.androidtv.tvapprepo.playstore
There you'll find all your sideloaded apps, and from there, you can create shortcuts for them in your main screen.
And I second your statement, no need for full Android OS.
To answer a previous question from you, I've installed the following emulators:
Play! (Too slow, still in early stage I guess)
Dolphin (Some games works pretty well, you just need to play with the settings)
PPSSPP (Works very well in HD)
FPSE (I've switched to OpenGL from settings and set the resolution to HD and it works greatly)
GPA.emu (work very well)
Those are the ones I tried, Arc Browser app is good to combine all emulator games in one place.
Also, some Android games although they're listed as not supporting Android TV, they indeed are. For example, LIMPO.
Also if you want to stream games from your PC and you don't meet Nvidia's GameStream requirements, you can try Remotr:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.remotrapp.remotr
Simple app, setup is the easiest, and the controller will work out of the box, actually all you need to do is to install the app on the shield and the server app on your pc.
Those are some of the tips to maximize your experience.
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Thanks for those tips. And on the plus side when you stay stock, update will be a lot easier!
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I think its called WBS App Drawer. Its available on the Shield Google Playstore and its free.
Works very well.
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Thanks!
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I disagree with @techjunky90, as I found the stock leanback launcher very lacking. The recommendations bar got really annoying, and even when I disabled it, it wouldn't go away. Also, only two rows of app icons and having to scroll to the right to find stuff wasn't the most ideal setup. I prefer the simplicity and customization capabilities of TV Launcher to be perfect for my needs. So I uninstalled the leanback launcher, and use use TV Launcher, and I couldn't be happier in regards to that.
I'm on unrooted stock Android TV 5.2, btw.
greevedogg said:
I disagree with @techjunky90, as I found the stock leanback launcher very lacking. The recommendations bar got really annoying, and even when I disabled it, it wouldn't go away. Also, only two rows of app icons and having to scroll to the right to find stuff wasn't the most ideal setup. I prefer the simplicity and customization capabilities of TV Launcher to be perfect for my needs. So I uninstalled the leanback launcher, and use use TV Launcher, and I couldn't be happier in regards to that.
I'm on unrooted stock Android TV 5.2, btw.
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Good point but the original recommendation stands. There is no reason to install a custom recovery and full Android os. The stock unrooted shield os works fine in most use cases.
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If you are a gamer and love it to play mobile games on TV, the most Games wouldn't run, because NVidia has not implemented the from Shield Tablet well-known gamepad mapper. If this little Tool would be available for Shield TV, you really don't need a full Android.
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Are the mobile games you are referring to games like family feud live?
I have the nvidia shield tv and I would really like to be able to play these games on there but do not know how. I search for them but they don't come up. Only can get them on my galaxy phone. Is it possible to get these on the tv? If so, How? Thanks in advance.
search for your wanted games in google, type the game then apk. do this on a pc or phone. download them. plug a usb drive into your computer or phone via otg and then plug the usb with apk onto the shield then browse for them via es file explorer. enjoy
I have an old HP 22 android monitor in my kitchen and love the "ok google" capability, the apps (250+ card game and Spectrum cable app) that don't work on stock shield. I am worried about it OS at 4.4.4 and want to update but Android TV seems to lack a lot of functionality I would want that full android would have. I have a shield and would like to use it but not sure the touch would work anymore if I usb the monitor back into the shield (I can use mouse and keyboard as alternative). This is why I would want full android.

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