[Q] sms without root - Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A

Hi guys, I bought my nexus 7 2013 lte thinking it could send sms. It seems it can but only if I root and install xposed etc etc.
My dilemma is that I have a nowtv subscription which will not run on rooted devices. I there any way to enable sms without rooting?
Ive tried masking root by all the usual methods but nowtv always knows. This is so frustrating for me as im not to tec savvy.
I have however flashed an older rom 4.3.1 and it works. is that my only option?

dememted1 said:
Hi guys, I bought my nexus 7 2013 lte thinking it could send sms. It seems it can but only if I root and install xposed etc etc.
My dilemma is that I have a nowtv subscription which will not run on rooted devices. I there any way to enable sms without rooting?
Ive tried masking root by all the usual methods but nowtv always knows. This is so frustrating for me as im not to tec savvy.
I have however flashed an older rom 4.3.1 and it works. is that my only option?
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I was going to tell you google voice then realized you're on the wrong side of the pond. Been using it for years. Sorry, haven't paid attention to the other options.

RootCloak is a xposed module that hides root from certain apps. I'm not sure what you want in the means of SMS, but I use Google voice, with the voice+ module and nexus 7 SMS enabler modules, then I can choose what default SMS app I want (Hangouts, 8sms). Or you can just use a different SMS app like TextPlus without without rooting.
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datallboy said:
RootCloak is a xposed module that hides root from certain apps. I'm not sure what you want in the means of SMS, but I use Google voice, with the voice+ module and nexus 7 SMS enabler modules, then I can choose what default SMS app I want (Hangouts, 8sms). Or you can just use a different SMS app like TextPlus without without rooting.
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xposed requires root doesn't it?
root cloak doesn't work. nowtv still says device modified and won't run.

Yes Xposed requires root.
Did a little searching and there's a RootCloak Plus which will do the job. Look under the Apps with calls... Header in this link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2574647
Hope it helps.
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datallboy said:
Yes Xposed requires root.
Did a little searching and there's a RootCloak Plus which will do the job. Look under the Apps with calls... Header in this link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2574647
Hope it helps.
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Thanks man.... I'll give it a go and let you know.

datallboy said:
Yes Xposed requires root.
Did a little searching and there's a RootCloak Plus which will do the job. Look under the Apps with calls... Header in this link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2574647
Hope it helps.
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Thanx for your time but this didn't work. I guess it's one of those apps that the root cloak plus won't work on.
I see the op is still working on another bskyb app.
Back to looking for a way to enable outbound text... (unrooted)
Thanx again..

Just a thought, is it possible to make an unrooted rom with mms built in that can be flashed via adb or any other method?
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dememted1 said:
Hi guys, I bought my nexus 7 2013 lte thinking it could send sms. It seems it can but only if I root and install xposed etc etc.
My dilemma is that I have a nowtv subscription which will not run on rooted devices. I there any way to enable sms without rooting?
Ive tried masking root by all the usual methods but nowtv always knows. This is so frustrating for me as im not to tec savvy.
I have however flashed an older rom 4.3.1 and it works. is that my only option?
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You may find this info useful!
Xposed Framework FAQDoes this require root access?
Yes, because it replaces a file in /system/bin. Once the framework is installed, it should work without root access.
and the link where I found the info.

tobdaryl said:
You may find this info useful!
Xposed Framework FAQDoes this require root access?
Yes, because it replaces a file in /system/bin. Once the framework is installed, it should work without root access.
and the link where I found the info.
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Thanks for info but I have tried this method. I have unrooted as far as possible without flashing stock but it seems something is left behind that the skygo/nowtv apps see's and says os is modified and will not run.

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[Q] [Rogers] CIBC Mobile Payment App

Hey all, I have a Rogers NFC Sim for my S3 running the latest CM 10.1 nightly. I was looking to use the CIBC Mobile Payment App available in the Play Store here. Of course it won't appear in the Store on my device because the device identifies itself differently than a stock Rogers S3, so I grabbed the APK from here, however the app simply won't install when I open it from my file explorer.
How can I forcibly install this app? My hardware is compatible with this app so this should just be a question of using some magic to trick the APK into installing.
dwsr said:
Hey all, I have a Rogers NFC Sim for my S3 running the latest CM 10.1 nightly. I was looking to use the CIBC Mobile Payment App available in the Play Store here. Of course it won't appear in the Store on my device because the device identifies itself differently than a stock Rogers S3, so I grabbed the APK from here, however the app simply won't install when I open it from my file explorer.
How can I forcibly install this app? My hardware is compatible with this app so this should just be a question of using some magic to trick the APK into installing.
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It needs to be stock...
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There's no way it HAS to be unless there is some specific dependency on TouchWiz. Whether or not it's easy or recommended is difference.
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dwsr said:
There's no way it HAS to be unless there is some specific dependency on TouchWiz. Whether or not it's easy or recommended is difference.
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"Please note: CIBC does not support the use of the CIBC mobile app on rooted phones"
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It's a good thing I'm not asking CIBC for support then.
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I'm trying yet again to get mobile payment working on my phone as well.
I'm simply astonished that nobody has ever found an actual way to hide rooting on a phone. I'm not a developer, but really, how hard could it possibly be? if we have root we should be able to do ANYTHING to trick an app that doesn't have root in to not knowing root is there. why hasn't anyone come up with a sandbox for these stupid apps yet???
(and don't show me links to any of the dozens of "root hiding" apps, I've never found a single app that checks for root that is fooled by any of these.)
anyone figured out a workaround yet?
Stopped being an issue ages ago for me (this thread is 3 years old). The CIBC app now works happily on many more devices, including rooted ones.
ve6rah said:
Stopped being an issue ages ago for me (this thread is 3 years old). The CIBC app now works happily on many more devices, including rooted ones.
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would you happen to have the apk handy? I just got my first android today
The one in the play store works fine for me.
ve6rah said:
The one in the play store works fine for me.
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thats probably because you have an approved device. I am trying to install it onto my nexus 5x
dracolnyte said:
thats probably because you have an approved device. I am trying to install it onto my nexus 5x
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Maybe try in a thread for that device. This is the SIII thread.

[Q] unroot certain apps

is it possible to get certain apps to think you are not rooted
I have just rooted my nexus 7 and was feeling great till i tried to use the sky sports tv app and found out that it wont let you use the app if you have rooted.
is there anyway of making the app think i am not rooted or getting that app unrooted?
Thanks for any help
Joe
joeyt90 said:
is it possible to get certain apps to think you are not rooted
I have just rooted my nexus 7 and was feeling great till i tried to use the sky sports tv app and found out that it wont let you use the app if you have rooted.
is there anyway of making the app think i am not rooted or getting that app unrooted?
Thanks for any help
Joe
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I have worked out that i can just Enable/Disable superuser on superSU to the effect i need hope this helps anyone else that may have this problem in the future
Yea it sucks when apps do that
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joeyt90 said:
is it possible to get certain apps to think you are not rooted
I have just rooted my nexus 7 and was feeling great till i tried to use the sky sports tv app and found out that it wont let you use the app if you have rooted.
is there anyway of making the app think i am not rooted or getting that app unrooted?
Thanks for any help
Joe
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Hi !
Install Xposed framework : RootCloak
You have just to had an app and it will disable root commands like su, busybox... for the app
Tell me if it's working !
Tetrox

[Q] Virgin Media TV Anywhere (UK)

Hi,
I have just installed the Virgin Media TV Anywhere App on my rooted N2, it states you can't stream media on rooted devices does anyone know how I could possibly by pass this?
thanks
Yep. Unroot your phone.
I would say your best bet is to search the forum for s thread regarding the sky go app.
In there there's lots of suggestions on how to circumnavigate this non rooted phone requirement.
Hope you succeed
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gringocol said:
Hi,
I have just installed the Virgin Media TV Anywhere App on my rooted N2, it states you can't stream media on rooted devices does anyone know how I could possibly by pass this?
thanks
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Do you mind uploading the app or giving a download link I can't find the app anywhere. I'm sure there will be an xposed module that will bypass the root check
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Virgin's TV Anywhere app is at https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.virginmedia.tvanywhere
I would like a version that lets me run it on a rooted device too. I don't plan to lose essential functionality such as ClockworkMod backups just for the sake of watching Virgin TV (TV Catchup does most of what I want anyway) but it'd be nice to have the option.
Andre
I'm the same would like to have the functionality of virgin TV anywhere but not at the expense of non rooted. The TV remote bit works nicely but not that bothered about that. It feels like virgin half assed this app doesnt work on KitKat either but the remote part does???
Hope someone can solve this cheers guys
If its anything like Sky Go its not going to be easy
Any solutions found to this? Have tried uninstalling SuperSU and re-installing the Virgin app but it seems to remember my device is rooted and blank out the Watch button. How would I go about clearing all memory of the Virgin app?
Thanks!
i found a way to do it! method is easy... it is working... pm for details... that is confirmed streaming channels using tv anywhere on rooted device...
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Share with the group please sirdigitalpython, there's a good fellow.
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mpw648 said:
Share with the group please sirdigitalpython, there's a good fellow.
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You could try root cloak. It works on a lot of apps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2574647
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i have passed the info onto devadvance author of rootcloak... he is adding it as we speak... dont wish to post on public domain guy's
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djb85 said:
Any solutions found to this? Have tried uninstalling SuperSU and re-installing the Virgin app but it seems to remember my device is rooted and blank out the Watch button. How would I go about clearing all memory of the Virgin app?
Thanks!
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clear data doesn't seem to be enough...clean cache too...
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sirdigitalpython said:
i have passed the info onto devadvance author of rootcloak... he is adding it as we speak... dont wish to post on public domain guy's
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Just to confirm, this works with Xposed framework & Root Cloak now. Just remember to remove it from SuperUser app permissions if you inadvertently clicked OK whilst tinkering.
Still not working on KitKat phones it seems
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mpw648 said:
Still not working on KitKat phones it seems
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Yep hopefully the rootcloak dev can get this working
I was hoping this would work with TV Anywhere....but unfortunately I don't seem to be able to get it working... http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...e-to-keep-even-more-apps-from-detecting-root/
gurningchimp said:
Just to confirm, this works with Xposed framework & Root Cloak now. Just remember to remove it from SuperUser app permissions if you inadvertently clicked OK whilst tinkering.
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Just got my tivobox and i can't get it to work with root cloak. Could you tell me what you did to get it working? I have added it to root cloak
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I'm having the same issue. I've got Root Cloak installed and reinstalled Virgin TV Anywhere and am having no luck!
ITGuyLevi said:
I'm having the same issue. I've got Root Cloak installed and reinstalled Virgin TV Anywhere and am having no luck!
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Once you've installed what you need to, try clearing the Virgin app's data, and then your phone's Data Chache and Dalvik, and see if that helps.
Andre

Barclay's Bank - UK

I'm so desperate to root my g3 but I bank with Barclay's and the app doesn't work on rooted devices. So frustrating. Has anyone found a workaround ? I known things like root cloak don't work with it.
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There's no workout unless you change your bank
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Root your device and use Xposed module RootCloak.
Had the same problem with one of my apps.
Problem solved.
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elmalote said:
Root your device and use Xposed module RootCloak.
Had the same problem with one of my apps.
Problem solved.
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Doesn't work with Barclays Bank app in the UK - they update it too fast.
dayloon said:
I'm so desperate to root my g3 but I bank with Barclay's and the app doesn't work on rooted devices. So frustrating. Has anyone found a workaround ? I known things like root cloak don't work with it.
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why do you need an app for banking ? that's a big security hole in your phone.
dayloon said:
I'm so desperate to root my g3 but I bank with Barclay's and the app doesn't work on rooted devices. So frustrating. Has anyone found a workaround ? I known things like root cloak don't work with it.
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Have you confirmed that the app is broken by root? The RBS Android app stopped working when I installed it on my G3 (it worked on my rooted HTC One X+). RBS confirmed that the app is broken on some devices, rooted or not.
saitch76 said:
Have you confirmed that the app is broken by root? The RBS Android app stopped working when I installed it on my G3 (it worked on my rooted HTC One X+). RBS confirmed that the app is broken on some devices, rooted or not.
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I can confirm
It may not be possible. Root cloak methods dont seem to work for this or SkyGo, even unrooting doesn't work for some apps, you need to reflash to stock completely.
Unrooting and deleting SuperSu works on Samsungs
Has anybody checked on lg g3?
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root your phone install whatever you want tweaks etc then unroot it and install the barclays app...
It's not so simple. Adblock will be working but Xposed not. Not sure about Barclays app, I can't test it because if it won't work you need to reinstall your rom... Time consuming
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Ok I did it. I rooted the phone, installed adblock, froze some apps in Titanium etc, Barclays of course didn't work.
Then fully unroot from SuperSu, restart and Barclays works!
Thank god.
Will ota work?
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qwerty1q said:
There's no workout unless you change your bank
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This is the best answer I have seen. Barclays, in general, has a stick up their collective asses regarding hacked phones. Switch to a bank that doesn't care what you do with your phone.

Is there anything *known* to break Android Pay on rooted devices?

On my M8 it used to be that anything that modified /system broke Android Pay. Until recently it was assumed that would still be the case, but I and many others have seen that AP still works with systemless root and custom roms (LeeDroid in my case). I'm considering some other modifications (Xposed, etc.), but I wanted to find out if there's any risk of breaking AP. Has anyone actually managed to do anything that causes AP to stop working?
goodtimes50 said:
On my M8 it used to be that anything that modified /system broke Android Pay. Until recently it was assumed that would still be the case, but I and many others have seen that AP still works with systemless root and custom roms (LeeDroid in my case). I'm considering some other modifications (Xposed, etc.), but I wanted to find out if there's any risk of breaking AP. Has anyone actually managed to do anything that causes AP to stop working?
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Have unlocked bootloader, flashed leedroid and pay is working. Haven't used it yet but it looks legit.
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dladz said:
Have unlocked bootloader, flashed leedroid and pay is working. Haven't used it yet but it looks legit.
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Are you running any Xposed mods?
goodtimes50 said:
Are you running any Xposed mods?
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No not at the moment. But on previous devices, root alone was enough.
Also just used two different cards on my phone, this is great, I can leave the house for a pint and leave my wallet at home. Great stuff.
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Well working fine with LeaDroids romjust used it
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Xposed breaks Android Pay.
Captain_Throwback said:
Xposed breaks Android Pay.
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Well damn! I was afraid of that...
goodtimes50 said:
Well damn! I was afraid of that...
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Anything that modifies the framework will affect Android pay. Some have said they got it working with root cloak module (add Google framework and Google services) but I couldn't get it to work.
jhericurls said:
Anything that modifies the framework will affect Android pay. Some have said they got it working with root cloak module (add Google framework and Google services) but I couldn't get it to work.
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Root cloak doesn't mask SafetyNet checks, so it couldn't work.
What other mods are known to break it? I know AdAway without the "systemless" mod will.
Installed the latest Leedroid (r46) and it no longer works for me, it did on an earlier version. Not sure what changed.
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Pauls57 said:
Installed the latest Leedroid (r46) and it no longer works for me, it did on an earlier version. Not sure what changed.
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Oh no, that's not good news! You might consider posting this on the LeeDroid thread. Hopefully there's something he can do about this...

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