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Hello all dev's,
I get really frustrated on most of the ROM's because I get always some applications that I cannot remove manually.
It can be a lot of applications in the "official Froyo+sense" ROM like plurk, Facebook, etc.. Amazon in CyanogenMod, or other stuffs in other ROMs.
Why the hell don't you automatically allow us to remove ALL non essential apps from the settings/applications/manage applications? I have seen that you are able to do that.
Is there a technological reason? Why do you move some applications and not all?
Is that a space matter? A performance or technological reason?
I feel really frustrated on each ROM because I have to always use "adb shell rm system/app/*.apk" and plug my device on the computer.
Please answer me.
Thanks.
Profete162
Can't answer the question but good call.
personally I think all ROMS should come with Titanium backup and Rom Manager. but everything else should be user modifiable.
Profete162: you could open the zip prior to install and delete the apps you don't want then flash?
Exactly that - open the ZIP and remove what you don't want. It's the first thing I do with a new ROM and I also add what I do wanna use so it can't get deleted. Hell of a lot easier than adb
EddyOS said:
Exactly that - open the ZIP and remove what you don't want. It's the first thing I do with a new ROM and I also add what I do wanna use so it can't get deleted. Hell of a lot easier than adb
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Yes, but it took maybe 10 minuts for maybe 2.000 users of the ROM or more if the ROM is Cyanogen.
It's a waste of 20.000 minuts for the world.. and we have to do that on each update.flash lol
When the dev with it's experience have only 2 minuts maybe to do that.
I understand that that's not a really big problem and the dev's have a lot of things to keep in mind, baut may be a good suggestion I hope for the next ROMS
profete162 said:
Yes, but it took maybe 10 minuts for maybe 2.000 users of the ROM or more if the ROM is Cyanogen.
It's a waste of 20.000 minuts for the world.. and we have to do that on each update.flash lol
When the dev with it's experience have only 2 minuts maybe to do that.
I understand that that's not a really big problem and the dev's have a lot of things to keep in mind, baut may be a good suggestion I hope for the next ROMS
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The Devs have to cater for everyone. Some people need those apps and would ditch the ROM if they were removed. If you don't need them just open the zip and remove them. It's not as if it takes more than 2 minutes.
To be fair, this post is just highlighting your laziness to open up an zip manager and press delete a few times. Dev's have to cater for everyone, not just you.
7pellc said:
To be fair, this post is just highlighting your laziness to open up an zip manager and press delete a few times. Dev's have to cater for everyone, not just you.
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That's exactly why I ask to Move all the apps in the deletable section. So easier work for the dev's and no complain!!!
That's a request that would fit everyone!
abc27 said:
Some people need those apps and would ditch the ROM if they were removed.
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I want to delete them but allow to delete them. I think it's a fair question and you havn't understood the meaning of my request. I would like to add the possibility to remove them, just that.
I don't understand why question sound stupid to you!
The dev's are adding the old app2sd, spare parts, and some apps that it take 2 minuts to add too! So why my request is different from other?
profete162 said:
That's exactly why I ask to Move all the apps in the deletable section. So easier work for the dev's and no complain!!!
That's a request that would fit everyone!
I want to delete them but allow to delete them. I think it's a fair question and you havn't understood the meaning of my request. I would like to add the possibility to remove them, just that.
I don't understand why question sound stupid to you!
The dev's are adding the old app2sd, spare parts, and some apps that it take 2 minuts to add too! So why my request is different from other?
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Those 'non essential' apps are essential to some of us. So why take them out??
It's so much easier to remove apps than it is to add them back in. Just remove them from the zip file as said if you don't like them before you flash.
And why the attitude? Questions that start 'Why the hell ...' and statements like 'I'm so frustrated ....' Mate - get a grip. Relax. It's a phone. You can remove the apps and if not just ignore them.
profete162 said:
That's exactly why I ask to Move all the apps in the deletable section. So easier work for the dev's and no complain!!!
That's a request that would fit everyone!
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The issue is that moving it into a user partition is then consuming valuable application space, and the spare space in /system is then effectively wasted.
If it's an issue, why not delete the apps from the zip yourself and then post your stripped down ROM, saving 19990 minutes!
Regards,
Dave
profete162 said:
Hello all dev's,
I get really frustrated on most of the ROM's because I get always some applications that I cannot remove manually.
It can be a lot of applications in the "official Froyo+sense" ROM like plurk, Facebook, etc.. Amazon in CyanogenMod, or other stuffs in other ROMs.
Why the hell don't you automatically allow us to remove ALL non essential apps from the settings/applications/manage applications? I have seen that you are able to do that.
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You could always make your own roms, that way it would be catered to your needs
You are right, " you have just to make your own ROM" is the universal solution.
Sorry for my question/request, I was just looking for a solution to make the Rom more open without adding stuff.
Sorry for my post and have a good day.
You can let it go through the "forgotten posts"
I understand your request and must agree to some extent, it would be nice to have the apps a place where we can choose wheter to keep or not without having to use usb/computer or per delete every zip
But ofc just the non essential ones
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
U cant odex Apps in data Partition so it saves ALOT of space to store Apps (odexed) in system.
brumle80 said:
I understand your request and must agree to some extent, it would be nice to have the apps a place where we can choose wheter to keep or not without having to use usb/computer or per delete every zip
But ofc just the non essential ones
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It's called a kitchen - MoDaCo's kitchens already do this.
Regards,
Dave
Few little facts an reasons why,
The andoid system its self depends on a lot of apps that are and should be stored in /system.
We cannot modify /system easily as HTC Locked write access to the /system partition. (we only have partial root access, this is why you guys are having issues with titanium)
apk.s in /data cannot be odexed in the same way and would use twice as much space if stored in /data.
hope this gives you a better understanding.. Dont flame the Devs
Can we please get this thread closed...
Anyway u can check out my Rom? Lols. I should be always be releasing 2 version of the rom for all of my updates if time let me.. 1 full 1 bare minimum lite version rom.
Sent from my HTC Desire
LeeDroid said:
Few little facts an reasons why,
The andoid system its self depends on a lot of apps that are and should be stored in /system.
We cannot modify /system easily as HTC Locked write access to the /system partition. (we only have partial root access, this is why you guys are having issues with titanium)
apk.s in /data cannot be odexed in the same way and would use twice as much space if stored in /data.
hope this gives you a better understanding.. Dont flame the Devs
Can we please get this thread closed...
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I would have been so happy if that was the first answer! Thank a lot for the information.
I hope that Plurk, Teeter, etc.. are not essential by the way
diablous said:
Profete162: you could open the zip prior to install and delete the apps you don't want then flash?
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I didnt know it was that easy.
So on DeVillian quick office is already installed and is 5mb.
so do i just delete the apk from the zip and re flash?
If people demand it, I'll write an app to move files from data to system and backwards,
you'll basically be able to choose the app you want to move and then the phone reboots to recovery and moves the chosen apps to the destination you want it to be.
I even thought about odexing apps and removing the dex files from the apks.
So if people want it I'll probably start writing the code on sunday.
+1 for beidl
So I just recently flashed my phone with the kernel vengeance 1.32 and when I go to the menu, some apps are missing like xperia gallery smart start, etc. also, when I want to add widgets, the photo album one is gone and a few others.
Is there a way to fix this?
Thanks
Xepia_94 said:
So I just recently flashed my phone with the kernel vengeance 1.32 and when I go to the menu, some apps are missing like xperia gallery smart start, etc. also, when I want to add widgets, the photo album one is gone and a few others.
Is there a way to fix this?
Thanks
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I just flashed my LT18i with the same kernel and i had no problems. Did you use the one exactly for your device? since there are a lot with the code names one might get confused. If that isn't the case you might simply have to flash a custom ROM. I did it with http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1920207 and works great
dumodal said:
I just flashed my LT18i with the same kernel and i had no problems. Did you use the one exactly for your device? since there are a lot with the code names one might get confused. If that isn't the case you might simply have to flash a custom ROM. I did it with http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1920207 and works great
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yeah but the thing is, Im getting bootloop after the sony logo. is there a soilution for it?
I'm taking over a friends old R800i next week and I'm really looking forward to it since I've wanted one of these since about when it was released.
What I'm looking for is a rom that gives me all the usual stuff - GSM connection, working 3G, wifi, gps, sms, mms, camera - but, will a custom rom give me better performance for emulation?
I want to be able to emulate all kinds of consoles without losing too much performance due to the rom - nor do I want my battery to get drained while the phone isn't in use. I'm of course ready to try a bunch of roms and I have looked at some of the threads, without learning much to be honest. I'm not even up to date with who's roms are the stable ones or which is the highest SE provided rom for Play either.
Looking to emulate N64, nes, PS and sega genesis, mainly.
If you root and debloat the stock rom, you will get excellent gaming performance. I went rom using custom roms and went back to stock as it provided the best performance all around.
ozzmanj1 said:
If you root and debloat the stock rom, you will get excellent gaming performance. I went rom using custom roms and went back to stock as it provided the best performance all around.
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Have a quicklist of which items to uninstall? Is there timescape and other such stuff on the Play?
Also, which android version do you use? 2.3.4?
Was waiting for a thread like this,
Visit Gene real and take a look at the Ace xp setup,
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stock rom is great even without any tweaks
you only need to debloat it
pedyvirus said:
stock rom is great even without any tweaks
you only need to debloat it
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Guess I should use the latest provided rom from SE? Which one is it anyway?
well pizza_dox has a stock debloated of 79 frimware
but i cant find it now
but it had a little bug that its very easy to fix it(problem wasnt little but it was very easy to fix it)
Oh yeq,
It was in my Sig and I forgot to include SEMCSetupWizard which broke the home button...
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as i know editing the build.prob without adding the setup wizard again will solve the problem(there is aline about setup wizard in build.prob. but i cant test it now)
pedyvirus said:
well pizza_dox has a stock debloated of 79 frimware
but i cant find it now
but it had a little bug that its very easy to fix it(problem wasnt little but it was very easy to fix it)
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Well Pizza_dox is an asshat refusing to answer on relevant questions in the thread he made for "the perfect setup", so I need a reliable source to go after since I have no idea what following the guide he provides will actually do to the phone (and I'm not going to learn by failing, hence why I ask questions which she/he refuses to respond properly to)
Dude sorry... But I might have been bussy and forgot to check the thread...
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niklasson said:
Well Pizza_dox is an asshat refusing to answer on relevant questions in the thread he made for "the perfect setup", so I need a reliable source to go after since I have no idea what following the guide he provides will actually do to the phone (and I'm not going to learn by failing, hence why I ask questions which she/he refuses to respond properly to)
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Please act respectful: PizzaDox has opened many manu threads, and he can't be repling at all of them.
Anyway debloating a rom is simple and can be done by everyone that wants to, by extracting the system.sin from your .79 ftf, dumping its data with flashtool in order to make it a yaffs img, extracting it with a yaffs extractor and then removing the apps located into "app" that you consider as bloat
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I've never deodexed or zipaligned a ROM before, but I'd like to give it a shot. Does anyone know if it's ok to use the Android Kitchen sink (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633246) on the VZW model? The thread says it's ok to use on the "HTC One (m7 variant)", but I want to make sure that its ok for the VZW model.
Also, as a side question, would deodexing through Titanium Backup (the Undo sys Dalvik integration) work for a deodexing option on this phone?
Thank you.
Crocosaurus said:
I've never deodexed or zipaligned a ROM before, but I'd like to give it a shot. Does anyone know if it's ok to use the Android Kitchen sink (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633246) on the VZW model? The thread says it's ok to use on the "HTC One (m7 variant)", but I want to make sure that its ok for the VZW model.
Also, as a side question, would deodexing through Titanium Backup (the Undo sys Dalvik integration) work for a deodexing option on this phone?
Thank you.
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worked for me
use API level 16 to deodex apps..
or u can just use my stock ROM as your base. (save time, and no need to re-invent the wheel) unless you're doing it to learn
andybones said:
worked for me
use API level 16 to deodex apps..
or u can just use my stock ROM as your base. (save time, and no need to re-invent the wheel) unless you're doing it to learn
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Cool, thanks Andy for the confirmation!
I was extremely tempted to use your ROM, but I wanted to do this as a learning thing.
Thanks again.
Hi guys
I need a help from u. I am such a noobie but i want do speed up my phone for a better performance on Pokemon Go (yeah!)
So i need to overclock (i think) the phone, but i didnt have it rooted, so i wanna a step by step guide to do this safely.
Is this so risk to root and overclock this phone? Please, let me know how! I dont wanna lose my T2. But i feel like the system apps use so much RAM and my cpu isnt running this game fairly.
So i ask just a help for what i have to do!
Sorry for my bad english
Have a nice day!
Upp
Someone please help me!?
Upp
read carefully, understand & follow
incase something went wrong, for safety precautions, download stock ftf (as per your country) by using xperifirm
follow this thread if on stock firmware : The easiest way to root xperia T2 ultra dual
OR
download stock ftf (as per your country) by using xperifirm
then download PRFCreator
read instructions carefully & create flashable prerooted file
& flash it from recovery .
Thx man
How about the overclock?
gbap3g said:
Thx man
How about the overclock?
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Overclocking is a bad idea, as it ruins your battery life and CPU. Plus, you need a custom kernel for that.
There is a easy way to root T2, i tested on 5.0 and 5.1 and it works
Follow this http://forum.xda-developers.com/a310/general/how-to-remove-replace-kingroot-kinguser-t3308989 only change the command to "sh /storage/emulated/0/mrw/root.sh" and extract the mrw folder into your internal storage
When you have root, test greenify, maybe it can help you. Good luck!
Sorry for my bad english.
AutumQueen92 said:
Overclocking is a bad idea, as it ruins your battery life and CPU. Plus, you need a custom kernel for that.
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Ok, so i wont anymore.
When i using pokemon go, and i press home button, all the icons disappear. Is the ram going down? I mean, is this a ram problem? (too less ram)
Thx
gbap3g said:
Ok, so i wont anymore.
When i using pokemon go, and i press home button, all the icons disappear. Is the ram going down? I mean, is this a ram problem? (too less ram)
Thx
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What I have learned is to close all "recent apps" before I use a ram hungry app.
Unfortunately our T2s are crippled with 1gig of ram.
In order to have some control over ram you need to be rooted.
Then there are apps that will allow you to adjust ram settings.
I have tried playing with the stock Sony firmware's memory settings and personally found closing recent apps to be most effective.
Google is your friend in your journey.
If you get stuck just ask here.
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