Q about styluses: "pi" - Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl

There's a thread here for our device that is discussing full sized styluses. I got to looking around in online stores, and one thing keeps showing up in tech specs of all styluses I find: "pi." 5.5pi, 6.5pi, 6pi, 8pi, etc.
What does pi mean and how does it relate to our tablet?
If you buy a stylus for this tablet, must it be a certain pi, greater than or equal to a certain pi, etc? Or will all pi work, but with varying accuracy or something?
I have searched for my answer already, but cant get any results, so sorry if this is a stupid question.
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spexwood said:
There's a thread here for our device that is discussing full sized styluses. I got to looking around in online stores, and one thing keeps showing up in tech specs of all styluses I find: "pi." 5.5pi, 6.5pi, 6pi, 8pi, etc.
What does pi mean and how does it relate to our tablet?
If you buy a stylus for this tablet, must it be a certain pi, greater than or equal to a certain pi, etc? Or will all pi work, but with varying accuracy or something?
I have searched for my answer already, but cant get any results, so sorry if this is a stupid question.
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pi is measuring unit for the TIP of the stylus pen, a lower number is better accuracy, more details but the screen(digitizer) must support it . The newest Galaxy 5 is 2.5pi and the Note 10.1 is 6.5pi. Hope the info help.

buhohitr said:
pi is measuring unit for the TIP of the stylus pen, a lower number is better accuracy, more details but the screen(digitizer) must support it . The newest Galaxy 5 is 2.5pi and the Note 10.1 is 6.5pi. Hope the info help.
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Did you mean our Note 10.1 or the older version?
(I REALLY wish that Samsung had called the 2014ed something different. It's so different in dimensions and hardware from the older 10.1, and it makes shopping for it hard! I can only imagine being a seller of accessories too. ... anyway....)
If the 2014 10.1 is 6.5pi, then I am guessing that getting, let's say, a 2.5pi S-Pen wouldn't work? But getting an 8.5pi probably would?
I guess I'm just a tiny bit confused still. If one were to buy a different S-Pen stylus for the 2014 ed Note 10.1, what pi range(s) should be considered? ex: 6-8.5pi.

spexwood said:
Did you mean our Note 10.1 or the older version?
(I REALLY wish that Samsung had called the 2014ed something different. It's so different in dimensions and hardware from the older 10.1, and it makes shopping for it hard! I can only imagine being a seller of accessories too. ... anyway....)
If the 2014 10.1 is 6.5pi, then I am guessing that getting, let's say, a 2.5pi S-Pen wouldn't work? But getting an 8.5pi probably would?
I guess I'm just a tiny bit confused still. If one were to buy a different S-Pen stylus for the 2014 ed Note 10.1, what pi range(s) should be considered? ex: 6-8.5pi.
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either 6.5 or 8 or whatever would work, but it's kind of what do you need it for? for fine writing and architect drawing you need a small pi, with 8pi It would be hard to connect a 2 thin lines, it's like a different when you try to write with a crayon or a pencil. with a huge tip usually for older device where you use the pen for tab on small icon or swipe the screen, not design for drawing or writing, but it stills work. My best recommendation is get the one that design specific for your device, remember, the tip is one thing but you also need pressure sensitive which you only could find best with the Galaxy Note series. If you buy a same pi pen from another third party and not design for the Note, you still could write and draw but you can't control the pressure sensitive aspect. Heck, you could write with your finger too if you want, but will not as thin and pretty as use a S pen!

buhohitr said:
either 6.5 or 8 or whatever would work, but it's kind of what do you need it for? for fine writing and architect drawing you need a small pi, with 8pi It would be hard to connect a 2 thin lines, it's like a different when you try to write with a crayon or a pencil. with a huge tip usually for older device where you use the pen for tab on small icon or swipe the screen, not design for drawing or writing, but it stills work. My best recommendation is get the one that design specific for your device, remember, the tip is one thing but you also need pressure sensitive which you only could find best with the Galaxy Note series. If you buy a same pi pen from another third party and not design for the Note, you still could write and draw but you can't control the pressure sensitive aspect. Heck, you could write with your finger too if you want, but will not as thin and pretty as use a S pen!
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Thanks!
Yeah, I was looking at doing drawings, so I guess 6.5pi would be what was needed since it's the same as the stock S-Pen. I'm not actually going to buy anything right now, but was mostly just curious because there are full-sized styluses on the market for tablets like the (I think) the Surface, and supposedly, they would work for the Note too.

spexwood said:
Thanks!
Yeah, I was looking at doing drawings, so I guess 6.5pi would be what was needed since it's the same as the stock S-Pen. I'm not actually going to buy anything right now, but was mostly just curious because there are full-sized styluses on the market for tablets like the (I think) the Surface, and supposedly, they would work for the Note too.
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For writing or drawing, you could buy one with the eraser(just like a pencil, one end with tip and the other end with eraser), kind of cool and convenience. It will save you time.

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Capacitive pen for taking notes.

Hey, I'm looking to take some notes on my tab and was looking for some suggestions. I've found a couple cool programs but need a pen.
My noted are almost all math related so equations and such.
Any advice would be very helpful.
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When it comes to capacitive stylus, I believe price is a good signal of quality. I have tried both high end (e.g., boxwave) and low end (generic, bundled with other accessories), and the difference is very noticeable. Good luck taking math notes.... I am an economist and my note-taking involves math too. You are going to have a hard time getting good results. I tried doing this, but had to go back to my clunky convertible tablet to get the results I needed. Unless you get a slate with a digitizer (like the Flyer or the Thinkpad), you are pretty much out of luck.
Your not out of luck... just need this!!
As u guys know capacitive stylus have a very wide point so that it can be recognized by the device, therefore affecting precision. Thankfully some people already came up with a solution. U have to options.
1) DIY fine ponit stylus with materials u can find in ur house... for FREE:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHhB2BF5yQM
I found a blog where someone made a more precise intructions .... but I don't
remember the site!
2) Someone took the idea to kickstarter and now they are commercializing there
version of a fine point stylus.... only that it cost around 20-30 bucks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpwfoEk0-bY
http://adonit.net/product/7
I just pre ordered one of these bad boys!!!
Hmm, looks intriguing. I'm not holding my breath until this type of technology is proven and reviewed thoroughly. Thanks for sharing.
Edit; Here's the blog with the detailed instructions:
http://tumblr.kinglau.co/post/6442455519/ipadstylusdiy
Will take a look. Still in the market for a tablet. I like tthe 10.1 but would be better if I could take notes.
I find the flyer too small for me and the one that att has is like $800 so I'd rather use paper than that lol.
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check out this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0057JAA54
i just ordered one, i guess for $8 it is worth trying
The more I look at htc's pen the more I like it, I might have to just suck it up and get a 7inch tablet.
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mafiaboy01 said:
The more I look at htc's pen the more I like it, I might have to just suck it up and get a 7inch tablet.
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Or you can wait for the AT&T HTC Jetstream.... same as the Flyer only that is 10.1 inch and has honeycomb 3.x
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Or you can wait for the AT&T HTC Jetstream.... same as the Flyer only that is 10.1 inch and has honeycomb 3.x
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But its $800 lol
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Doesn't the Lenovo Thinkpad tablet also come with a digitizer and pen?
I'll try the DIY out and let you know how it goes, looks easy enough and I have everything needed. I paid one looks great as well, but I'll wait fir the reviews to roll in. Thank you for showing this to us.
How about this one?
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/dagi-smartphone-slim-line-capacitive-stylus-black-p23378.htm
I'm considering it, but I don't like to waste money and really want a decent accuracy.
cooljonL said:
How about this one?
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/dagi-smartphone-slim-line-capacitive-stylus-black-p23378.htm
I'm considering it, but I don't like to waste money and really want a decent accuracy.
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The Dagi came first than the one i showed u guys... but I've read some reviews and they say that it's hard to get used to because w this one u have to write w a certain angle for it to work at its best.
That sucks.
I made my own last night. I'm not good at that kinda stuff so although it worked, it was a little off.
I need one so that I can take small notes on an image of a form, but it just didn't like writing small. I'm wondering if that's the case for most of them.
cooljonL said:
That sucks.
I made my own last night. I'm not good at that kinda stuff so although it worked, it was a little off.
I need one so that I can take small notes on an image of a form, but it just didn't like writing small. I'm wondering if that's the case for most of them.
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You can probably do that using Sketchbook Pro. Just import the image, zoom in on where you need to write, merge the layers when done and save.
I too am looking for something to take notes on. I bought a Flyer and it was pretty inaccurate. This is one of those things where if it isn't done right it will be horrible experience. My best suggestion would be to wait for the Samsung Series 7 Slate. I know its pretty expensive but look at like this it can replace your laptop.
The 12.1 Asus eePad slate (Windows-based) gets good reviews on the note-taking area.
first of all: out there are a varaity of stylus for your tabs and phones. the regular capacitive pens you'll find for a buck or two on ebay are the same as the ones cellphone companies sell for like $20, does are just like using your finger and are only good for people with big/fat fingers since they cant type on keyboard well and other stuff like that without hitting the wrong key. but some genius chinese guy invented this wish you can make at home by yourself without any money:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHhB2BF5yQM&NR=1&feature=endscreen
but also two companies took this idea and patented it, and here are the results
Dagi:
P501 and P502 (old method with just stylus)
P601 (old method with ink pen in one end and stylus in the other)
P504, P505, P506 and P507 (new idea, very acurate, just like a pen or pencil)
(the P504 comes in 9 different colors)
P602 (new idea, very acurate, just like a pen or pencil- and also an ink pen in the other end)
Adonit:
Jot and Jot Pro (The best out there)
I have a Dagi P504 and an Adonit Jot Pro. I use the on my Tab on Sketchbook Pro and other Drawing and Note-Taking apps. They both are very good but the dagi does not have a cap so the point can bend in a backpack or something and the adonit jot pro is very sleek in desing and has a cap. Its up to each ones likes. I paid $18 for the P504 and $30 for the Jot Pro. I bought them on ebay. You can find all of the styles on ebay.
You can find all of the styles on ebay.You will find The Dagi from $15-$30 depending on styles and the Adonit from $25-$45
The idea from the guy on the vid works great too
NOTE: I have the Galaxy Tab 10.1 Galaxy 10.1 owners: You must have root on your device and use TouchScreenTune (free app that fixes your touch screen sensitivity). Otherwise the writing will lag. Link below:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.vital
i bought dagi p601 from ebay 27$ get conf.email from dagi
The stylus, P602, had already been sent to you by post in Taiwan. The tracking number is. The website for tracking .Please enter the item of International Letters Tracking Service for the tracking. Normally, it takes 7~12 days for the delivery. We will keep following up the delivery process until you get it.
We have uploaded the related demo videos on YouTube and you can search them by the key words of "dagi stylus". Also, welcome to visit our website www.dagi.com.tw for our products in detail.
By the way, we have provided another stylus, P204, to you. It's the gift for you. If you have any comment on the stylus after getting it, please kindly let us know. We will always do our best for the improvement.
Last part i like very much hope one of them will work.I hope ill get it next week and write here if they are good.sorry for bad english
Motorola Stylus pen with Precision Tip
On Motorola site, it says that a Stylus pen with precision tip is becoming available soon. By its picture, it seems that it is indeed precise. On the compatibility tab, it says it is compatible with XYBoard only. Is XYBoard touchscreen different from Xoom? In my opinion, if it is compatible with Xoom, it is compatible with the SGT 10.1, isn't it?
Here's the link for the pen: http://goo.gl/1y6Pb

[Q]Galaxy S 2 Stylus

what is the best stylus that is available for accurate writing and sketching?
-Is the Samsung Note stylus works with the galaxy S2?
Thank you.
The Note's pen will not work as it is not as stylus, it's a digitizer pen that uses a special system in the screen.
To be honest, and I have more experience with capacitive styli than probably 99.9% of people on here, the S2 is too small to really give you good accuracy with any stylus that is designed for normal capacitive screens. A stylus is even pretty useless for notes and sketching on my 7-inch Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus, and even on my iPad I rely heavily on apps that get around the inherent inaccuracy of capacitive styli with apps that have great zoom or magnification options. Navigating menus etc as an extension of your finger is one thing, but sketching and note taking is something completely different.
If you do decide to get one, stay far far away from those generic brands you find on eBay etc, and far away even from styli from Belkin, Griffin etc that you normally find in electronics stores. The more expensive styli ($20-30 range US) are in a whole other class when it comes to both accuracy and durability. I would suggest a stylus that doesn't look huge next to the S2, which eliminates some of the bigger ones out there that are big to emulate permanent markers. Both the Architect Stylus and Wacom Stylus are great and small. I have both, and they're a bit more sanely sized next to the S2 than e.g. the Cosmonaut, AluPen, Maglus etc. You might however want to look at the Jot stylus first. For accuracy on a small screen, it's probably your best bet, though the disc type tip is not to everyone's taste
Thank you very much you I think i will go with the JOT PRO.
you guys really want to see this.
i know the screen of galaxy is too small when comparing to tab,but that guy is really amazing [video is a part of avdt of stylus]
Yep, it is of course possible to do on such a small screen, but you end up zooming and panning a lot. The Galaxy Note is a whole other beast with that pen it comes with, will be interesting to see what pops up on YouTube in terms of drawings made on it
question about the stylus used in the above video
Cptnodegard said:
Yep, it is of course possible to do on such a small screen, but you end up zooming and panning a lot. The Galaxy Note is a whole other beast with that pen it comes with, will be interesting to see what pops up on YouTube in terms of drawings made on it
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Hello thank you inadvance for awnsering,
I ask you this question because i im curious if you know wich pen was used in the above video. and if its possible the use that pen with WACOM's drwaing tablets.
als i am currently looking to buy a second hand wacom tablet. Can you pleasse tell me what to look out for when making a secondhand purchase. (maybe the pen is broke of skratches on the screen ect.
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Hello thank you inadvance for awnsering,
I ask you this question because i im curious if you know wich pen was used in the above video. and if its possible the use that pen with WACOM's drwaing tablets.
als i am currently looking to buy a second hand wacom tablet. Can you pleasse tell me what to look out for when making a secondhand purchase. (maybe the pen is broke of skratches on the screen ect.
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That's a Just Mobile AluPen. Won't work with drawing tablets, completely different technology
Had DAGi Stylus P101 model lying around and tried it since it's winter... have to say it works just fine swiping, scrolling and everything else on my SGS2.
does the galaxy note stylus work with the s2?
Ixdankd said:
does the galaxy note stylus work with the s2?
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OP asked the same question....
Ixdankd said:
does the galaxy note stylus work with the s2?
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Why don't you try it and see if it works... just go to nearby store and have a blast And where would you get a Note stylus anyways...
Fevves said:
And where would you get a Note stylus anyways...
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Not that they would work, but they are sold separately. Replacements for Notes, obviously
I ordered a cheap $1 Stylus off ebay some time ago, still waiting for it to arrive. While it may not be as accurate as the higher class ones, I don't really need it that bad to begin with (I've come to accept that taking notes on my SGS2 isn't a viable option).

Pen?

I was wondering if could use a preassure pen on the N7.2 and would any preasure sensitive pen work the same or do they differ?
bogii4 said:
I was wondering if could use a pressure pen on the N7.2 and would any preasure sensitive pen work the same or do they differ?
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Not quite sure what you mean by a "pressure pen", but the Nexus 7 screen is capacitance, not pressure. If you touch it with a hard, non-conductive object, nothing will happen. The stylus type pens work because they can conduct your fingers to the surface of the tablet (simplified explanation, don't flame me!). You can also try to operate the tablet with gloves on to see that the "contact" of your fingers is necessary to get the touchscreen to operate.
What I meant was for drawing a stulis like from a note 8?
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No, the S-Pen is unique and a Samsung only accessory. Too bad, it looks useful but I rather stick with Nexus.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6893/samsung-galaxy-note-80-review/4
bogii4 said:
What I meant was for drawing a stulis like from a note 8?
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The N7 doesn't have the hardware to support pens like the note 8 does. You won't get any of the pressure sensitivity that they/wacom pens get.
The only pens you can use with the N7 are going to be the capacitive touch pens, which just emulate your finger.
squeakyl said:
The N7 doesn't have the hardware to support pens like the note 8 does. You won't get any of the pressure sensitivity that they/wacom pens get.
The only pens you can use with the N7 are going to be the capacitive touch pens, which just emulate your finger.
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Sadly this is true. The pressure sensitivity on the Note is impressive for what it is. One day they'll have something out for other tablets, but for now, stick to changing the stroke width.
sen-cha said:
Sadly this is true. The pressure sensitivity on the Note is impressive for what it is. One day they'll have something out for other tablets, but for now, stick to changing the stroke width.
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Got this today and um.. when i use Photoshop if i set to a big brush size and pressure a little it,it comes small dot/line by preassuring more it becomes bigger
i hve no idea
bogii4 said:
Got this today and um.. when i use Photoshop if i set to a big brush size and pressure a little it,it comes small dot/line by preassuring more it becomes bigger
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You can sort of guess the amount of pressure being applied by a finger based on the size of the touch (if you lightly touch it's small, if you press hard it's bigger as your finger squashes against the screen). So it is, sort of, touch sensitive, but if you used a stylus with a non-soft end it won't detect an increase in pressure.
bogii4 said:
Got this today and um.. when i use Photoshop if i set to a big brush size and pressure a little it,it comes small dot/line by pressuring more it becomes bigger
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Pressure sensitivity works beautifully in Photoshop Touch with a Wacom stylus (or S-Pen) on my Note 10.1.
Conversely, finger (or capacitive stylus) pressure in PS Touch on my N7 makes no difference. Not even a little bit. As already posted by others, the N7 just doesn't have the technology to do what you're asking.
Yeah, The N7 (and most other Android devices) don't have the hardware necessary for pressure sensitivity. If that's important to you, look in the direction of the Galaxy Note line of devices, or anything that advertises Wacom digitizer support. They exist, but are far and few between. This is one in particular that comes to mind, albeit with a hefty $1500-1600 price tag.
On a somewhat related note, the Adonit Jot Pro stylus works beautifully on the N7 (among any other capacitive touchscreen), so while it may not be pressure sensitive, it's pretty good for rough sketches or handwriting. If you're looking for a fine point stylus, look no further. One thing to mention though, is the sensitivity wears off after a couple weeks. Remove the plastic tip and put on very tiny bit of conductive thermal paste (think Arctic Silver 5) on the tip, then replace the plastic tip again. It's smooth sailing from there.
Its been almost a month I have with my N7(2013) and its working really very fine...in the beginning it had some issues in GPS...I also thought to use of a S-pen with it but not sure about the touch screen compatibility..if someone has tried to use something like then please do update with the reviews....
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Its been almost a month I have with my N7(2013) and its working really very fine...in the beginning it had some issues in GPS...I also thought to use of a S-pen with it but not sure about the touch screen compatibility..if someone has tried to use something like then please do update with the reviews....
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Have you read the rest of the thread? No, the S-Pen will not work. It's not just about the pen. Devices that use digitizer pens have an extra layer on the screen that allows the pens to do their magic. That layer is simply non-existent on the nexus 7.
This is why the note 8 costs more....
I've got a Wacom bamboo pocket and have to say that using my fingers works much better. Are all stylus ' like that or are there better ones?
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I have a few different rubber tipped stylists and they do not work half as good as the micro fiber mesh tipped ones do.
Where can I get those?
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Yeah, The N7 (and most other Android devices) don't have the hardware necessary for pressure sensitivity. If that's important to you, look in the direction of the Galaxy Note line of devices, or anything that advertises Wacom digitizer support. They exist, but are far and few between. This is one in particular that comes to mind, albeit with a hefty $1500-1600 price tag.
On a somewhat related note, the Adonit Jot Pro stylus works beautifully on the N7 (among any other capacitive touchscreen), so while it may not be pressure sensitive, it's pretty good for rough sketches or handwriting. If you're looking for a fine point stylus, look no further. One thing to mention though, is the sensitivity wears off after a couple weeks. Remove the plastic tip and put on very tiny bit of conductive thermal paste (think Arctic Silver 5) on the tip, then replace the plastic tip again. It's smooth sailing from there.
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It's not necessarily the android device that needs the hardware - in Wacom tablets (as in bamboo, intuos etc., not Android tablets) the pressure sensitivity comes from the pen itself, not the tablet surface. While there's nothing on the market at the moment (?) that doesn't mean there never can be for the likes of the N7, where the pen would have the pressure sensitive hardware and then the tablet would just require the necessary hardware.
Adonit now sells the Jot Script Fine Point stylus. However, this only works with iPhone for now and kinda expensive.
I sold my Note 8.0 because I am getting the N7 LTE (if I can find one in Best Buy!) and planning to get this. Best of both world: pure Android AND stylus that is accurate.
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Adonit now sells the Jot Script Fine Point stylus. However, this only works with iPhone for now and kinda expensive.
I sold my Note 8.0 because I am getting the N7 LTE (if I can find one in Best Buy!) and planning to get this. Best of both world: pure Android AND stylus that is accurate.
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These look great, but the lack of Android support right out of the gate really has me sour on Evernote. I just don't think there is any excuse for releasing something like this as ios only. Unless they are purposely trying to alienate Android users. Not that I'm saying that's what they are doing, but it was a pretty stupid business decision regardless.
I am hoping it will eventually be usable on Android, but I haven't seen a single mention of future Android support.
Boo to you, Evernote.

Should the s-pen have flexible or stiff tip?

I just purchased note 8.0 which is really great, but one thing is starting to annoy me (a little). That's the tip of the s-pen which is flexible (it moves on the sides a milimetr or two) and also if I press it against a surface the tip is pushed a 1/2 mm inside the s-pen.
I would much more preffer a stiff tip, like my pen's, and I was wondering if it's just a faulty s-pen I got, or if it's by design and all you have the same kind of s-pen tip?
If so... is there any way I can make the tip to be still like say... a pencil tip? What would be important is to have it reversible, so gluing the tip to the case is rather out of the question.
Any help from someone who was looking for the same thing as me?
lukair1983 said:
I just purchased note 8.0 which is really great, but one thing is starting to annoy me (a little). That's the tip of the s-pen which is flexible (it moves on the sides a milimetr or two) and also if I press it against a surface the tip is pushed a 1/2 mm inside the s-pen.
I would much more preffer a stiff tip, like my pen's, and I was wondering if it's just a faulty s-pen I got, or if it's by design and all you have the same kind of s-pen tip?
If so... is there any way I can make the tip to be still like say... a pencil tip? What would be important is to have it reversible, so gluing the tip to the case is rather out of the question.
Any help from someone who was looking for the same thing as me?
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Doesn't seem that your s-pen is faulty.
The Moving tip is part of Wacom tech and is what detects taps/clicks as well as pressure.
, however a mm or 2 2 sideways is a bit too much and should not happen.
My other Wacom pen for regular pc tablet (intuos) also dips in and out a bit, so that's normal.
Thanks for responding. I appriciate taking the time.
But isn't it true that you can use other manufacturers pens with galaxy note series, and some of them have stiff tips?
lukair1983 said:
Thanks for responding. I appriciate taking the time.
But isn't it true that you can use other manufacturers pens with galaxy note series, and some of them have stiff tips?
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I don't think you can use other manufacturer pens with note 8. Even Only few of the pens by wacom are compatible.
There are wacom pens with replaceable tips, but they more or less give a different surface feel as opposed to a rigid tip itself.
Oh, I didn't know that. So the s-pen's for Galaxy Note 8.0 are different than for other note's, in terms of technology? The thing about other pens I was writing in reference to other galaxy devices that use s-pen, where people said they purchased other (bigger) stylus'es.
lukair1983 said:
Oh, I didn't know that. So the s-pen's for Galaxy Note 8.0 are different than for other note's, in terms of technology? The thing about other pens I was writing in reference to other galaxy devices that use s-pen, where people said they purchased other (bigger) stylus'es.
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as far as i am aware, up to samsung Galaxy Note 3.0 all s-pen enabled devices have same underlying technology by wacom, so it's the same manufacturer (samsung/wacom).
however some pens might work across the board on a lot of devices and some might not due to device specific calibrations.
http://www.wacom.com/en/us/overlays/articles/2013/1027-samsung-galaxy-note
I see. Thanks for additional info.

Stylus / S-Pen confusion

I'm looking for a full sized stylus without any offset issue and have been following the other thread with interest but no-one yet seems to have found something which ticks all the boxes. I'm also a little confused about a couple of things and would appreciate some help. My Q's are:
Is the S-Pen powered and therefore charged by the tablet? I've got both the original and 2014 Note 10.1's and the stylus from the original works on the 2014 no problem and without offset. The thing is the battery is completely flat on the original as it's not been used for some time yet the stylus still works and I'm pretty sure it can't have any charge left in it so how is it then working?
The driver behind this is that I was looking to get a stylus holder for the 2014 stylus but can't find one so thought I'd get an original stylus/holder to use with the 2014 but the issue being I wouldn't be able to keep it charged as the original note is about to be sold.
I've read that the Surface Pro stylus works on the 2014 without much, if any offset. Looking around I found this stylus...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/2XNo1access...qid=1394362536&sr=1-1&keywords=surface+stylus ...and wondered is anyone had any experience of using one or know whether it would work with the 2014.
Any help guys, very much appreciated.
Edit: I've now found an old wide metal pen which both the original and 2014 styluss fits into, funny thing is when either stylus is placed inside the old pen they don't work on the 2014 screen but when they're taken out they both work fine. Weird, is this because the holder has a metal body?
GrandMasterPlank said:
I'm looking for a full sized stylus without any offset issue and have been following the other thread with interest but no-one yet seems to have found something which ticks all the boxes. I'm also a little confused about a couple of things and would appreciate some help. My Q's are:
Is the S-Pen powered and therefore charged by the tablet? I've got both the original and 2014 Note 10.1's and the stylus from the original works on the 2014 no problem and without offset. The thing is the battery is completely flat on the original as it's not been used for some time yet the stylus still works and I'm pretty sure it can't have any charge left in it so how is it then working?
The driver behind this is that I was looking to get a stylus holder for the 2014 stylus but can't find one so thought I'd get an original stylus/holder to use with the 2014 but the issue being I wouldn't be able to keep it charged as the original note is about to be sold.
I've read that the Surface Pro stylus works on the 2014 without much, if any offset. Looking around I found this stylus...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/2XNo1access...qid=1394362536&sr=1-1&keywords=surface+stylus ...and wondered is anyone had any experience of using one or know whether it would work with the 2014.
Any help guys, very much appreciated.
Edit: I've now found an old wide metal pen which both the original and 2014 styluss fits into, funny thing is when either stylus is placed inside the old pen they don't work on the 2014 screen but when they're taken out they both work fine. Weird, is this because the holder has a metal body?
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The stylus for the note series phones and tables do have or need batteries. There are two videos on YouTube that can explain it to you.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Thod_N0fnj4
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=beQq6-wr4i8
Wacom makes the Bamboo Feel that works well with the note tablets. https://store.wacom.com/us/en/product/CS300UK2?
kkretch said:
The stylus for the note series phones and tables do have or need batteries. There are two videos on YouTube that can explain it to you.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Thod_N0fnj4
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=beQq6-wr4i8
Wacom makes the Bamboo Feel that works well with the note tablets. https://store.wacom.com/us/en/product/CS300UK2?
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Wow, very clever stuff. Now it all makes sense! Thanks for the help.
GrandMasterPlank said:
I'm looking for a full sized stylus without any offset issue.
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If a pen you're using has no offset issue on another Samsung Note device but does on your N10.1-14 then something's wrong with your N10.1-14. If the pen included with your N10.1-14 has an offset issue it should have it on all Samsung Note devices. I got a S Pen wet once and it developed an offset issue and I had to replace it so they can be damaged or defective. As for a full-size stylus my favorite is the HM-5100 which is also a BT headset. It's pricey though. It's the one on the bottom.
BarryH_GEG said:
If a pen you're using has no offset issue on another Samsung Note device but does on your N10.1-14 then something's wrong with your N10.1-14. If the pen included with your N10.1-14 has an offset issue it should have it on all Samsung Note devices. I got a S Pen wet once and it developed an offset issue and I had to replace it so they can be damaged or defective. As for a full-size stylus my favorite is the HM-5100 which is also a BT headset. It's pricey though. It's the one on the bottom.
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My current S-Pens don't have any offset, I'm looking for an additional full size stylus that doesn't have any offset issues but it appears most do. Your picture won't enlarge for some reason. Is the third one down one of these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-E...UK_Mobiles_Accessories_RL&hash=item485ec2b59b ...if it is I'd be interested in knowing if you've noticed any offset issues with it? It uses the original 10.1 stylus right? It's also less than half the cost of the Bluetooth stylus, which is just too expensive.
GrandMasterPlank said:
My current S-Pens don't have any offset, I'm looking for an additional full size stylus that doesn't have any offset issues but it appears most do. Your picture won't enlarge for some reason. Is the third one down one of these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-E...UK_Mobiles_Accessories_RL&hash=item485ec2b59b ...if it is I'd be interested in knowing if you've noticed any offset issues with it? It uses the original 10.1 stylus right? It's also less than half the cost of the Bluetooth stylus, which is just too expensive.
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It's not a holder - it's a stand-alone stylus. I use it for voice commands and quick phone calls as its a true BT headset. It's great as a stylus because it's weighty and feels good against the glass panel. The button's also well placed so it's easier and more natural to use.
Here's a link...
http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/mobile-devices/smartphones/smartphone-accessories/BHM5100UWEGXEU
BarryH_GEG said:
It's not a holder - it's a stand-alone stylus. I use it for voice commands and quick phone calls as its a true BT headset. It's great as a stylus because it's weighty and feels good against the glass panel. The button's also well placed so it's easier and more natural to use.
Here's a link...
http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/mobile-devices/smartphones/smartphone-accessories/BHM5100UWEGXEU
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What he said.
The feel of the HM5100 is superb compared to the standard Spen. If it's charged then it doubles as a BT mic/speaker. If it's not charged then it's still the best feeling stylus that I've come across

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