Question regarding the waterproof qualities - Xperia Z1 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello!
I want to get this great phone for my sister.
seeing she has a history of somehow dropping the phone into the toilet i think that should be a great phone for her:laugh:
Thing is, i'm worried about how really waterproof the phone is.
What happens if she doesnt seal properly the port after charging for example? does every port in the phone need to be manually sealed each time after usage? (charging/headphones).
thanks!

holydire said:
Hello!
I want to get this great phone for my sister.
seeing she has a history of somehow dropping the phone into the toilet i think that should be a great phone for her:laugh:
Thing is, i'm worried about how really waterproof the phone is.
What happens if she doesnt seal properly the port after charging for example? does every port in the phone need to be manually sealed each time after usage? (charging/headphones).
thanks!
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If she doesn't close the ports then it would just be like any other normal phone dropped in the water. Also not all ports are covered. Headphone port isn't covered but is waterproof. Charging(USB) needs covered ports but if you buy the dock then you won't need to use the USB port but the magnetic connector instead which is also waterproof without any covers.

Phone will remind her to close the ports. So that is a bonus. Just tell her not to disable that warning.
And get her $10 magnetic charging cable so she will not have to open the charging port cap at all for charging the phone. This way no need to pen any port doors unless you want to transfer files over Usb. Eden that can be avoided by setting up Wifi file transfer.
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Funkym0nkey said:
Phone will remind her to close the ports. So that is a bonus. Just tell her not to disable that warning.
And get her $10 magnetic charging cable so she will not have to open the charging port cap at all for charging the phone. This way no need to pen any port doors unless you want to transfer files over Usb. Eden that can be avoided by setting up Wifi file transfer.
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will this do?
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Magnetic...3932864&sr=1-3&keywords=sony+magnetic+charger

holydire said:
will this do?
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Magnetic...3932864&sr=1-3&keywords=sony+magnetic+charger
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I don't think that will work. Z ultra is much thinner at 6.5mm. Z1 Compact is thick at 9.6 mm.
I have cable like this http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00G25UXSQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1393944009&sr=8-1
Works like a charm.
From my Xperia Z1 Compact, in your face!

Funkym0nkey said:
I don't think that will work. Z ultra is much thinner at 6.5mm. Z1 Compact is thick at 9.6 mm.
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The dock has changeable inserts that should allow you to use the phone with a cover. Perhaps the Z1 compact will fit with the insert designed for the Z ultra+cover.
I am generally pretty confident in the waterproof designs from Sony. Last summer I retrieved my mothers Xperia Active from the bottom of a harbour after it had spent spent 10 minutes at 2.5 metres in salt water. It was running when brought up and still works nicely and she is using it every day. I also routinely brought my old Xperia Go to the shower to be able to control the music playing from my bluetooth speakers. This never posed any problem either. I haven't subjected my new Z1 Compact to any liquid challenges yet though.

LoriaRazog said:
you can dive into the chilly sea
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careful with that one, according to IP specs it is waterproof in sweet water only.

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Official Galaxy S2 Desktop Dock

Does anyone know of an alternative source for this dock?
I've had it on order for a couple of weeks now, but it's still showing up as out of stock - more due shortly
Can't seem to find anywhere else that's doing it!
Thx
Bought mine from an ebay reseller and it came in a week from South Korea..
http://www.exportprive.com/samsung-desktop-charging-dock-galaxy-i9100-p-16416.html
ordered spare battery, in the uk within a week
Thanks for that both....
@benjatt - When you searched on the exportprive site for it and it gave you that price.....was that the total price, inc postage etc? It works out 2 or 3 quid extra from them but if that includes the postage as well, I'll cancel my order with mobilefun and order it from exportprive instead, as I rang MF today and they said the next shipment should be in around the 8th July (the last one that should've arrived last Monday, never turned up at all!!)
@chybinj - exportprive are based in S Korea it seems, so your item might have come from their ebay shop!
If you think you can sync data or connect with this device, stay away from this. Yes, I do have it with a gold pack SGS II...
But you can not connect to PC nor sync with it. It is just a stylish charger device for desktop that's all... It does not have own speakers it just a bigger hole that increase sound a bit also.
I was really disappointed that it can not connect at all.. Was hoping for that...
SiSL said:
If you think you can sync data or connect with this device, stay away from this. Yes, I do have it with a gold pack SGS II...
But you can not connect to PC nor sync with it. It is just a stylish charger device for desktop that's all... It does not have own speakers it just a bigger hole that increase sound a bit also.
I was really disappointed that it can not connect at all.. Was hoping for that...
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Nope.....don't want to sync or anything...just want a nice and easy 'in-out' sliding action, into a good-looking bedside dock/charger (which, judging by the various vids I've seen of this device, it seems to give....) My current one, clunks in and out of the protruding micro-usb spiggot.....and echo's loudly off my bedside cabinet in doing so....which deffo isn't appreciated by my 'better-half', at 4.30am.....
Do ya want to get rid of yours by any chance...?
price and non sync ability is such a turn off....
Willie_Heckerslyke said:
Nope.....don't want to sync or anything...just want a nice and easy 'in-out' sliding action, into a good-looking bedside dock/charger (which, judging by the various vids I've seen of this device, it seems to give....) My current one, clunks in and out of the protruding micro-usb spiggot.....and echo's loudly off my bedside cabinet in doing so....which deffo isn't appreciated by my 'better-half', at 4.30am.....
Do ya want to get rid of yours by any chance...?
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Ah no, it is still good "desktop clock" (it has a desktop clock function built-in within the phone -- different type of idle screen)
However, glad I did not pay anything for it extra other than phone's cost.
I can recommend this one for everybody. It is so good. Already ordered another one for my work place.
And then the one question which everybody has been thinking: Does the phone fit there if using official Samsung back cover..
I should get the cover today, so I will try it as soon as possible. Stay tuned!
i also want to buy this desktop charger but i dont know if the phone is going to fit because i am using the skinomi body skin.
Does anyone know if the phone fits to this desktop charger with the skin
prince_72 said:
i also want to buy this desktop charger but i dont know if the phone is going to fit because i am using the skinomi body skin.
Does anyone know if the phone fits to this desktop charger with the skin
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To all those asking about fit, it's tight. I have a protective skin on mine and it just barely makes it. Anything thicker than a protector won't work.
Bought one of these from Amazon, which was supplied by expansys, even though it said delivery delays it turned up in 3 days, then they reduced to 29.95 so I ordered another one again turned up in 3 days.
Excellent bit of kit, really nice for the bed side table to.
Shame thing it does not support usb connection
CandyAndy said:
I can recommend this one for everybody. It is so good. Already ordered another one for my work place.
And then the one question which everybody has been thinking: Does the phone fit there if using official Samsung back cover..
I should get the cover today, so I will try it as soon as possible. Stay tuned!
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Well does it fit or not?
Gavin.csy said:
Well does it fit or not?
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No it doesn't
So I had to ditch my back cover for this. I like the dock way too much. Will receive another one for work probably on monday.
Shame with the backcover thou, also liked that one.
Sync and Dock Station
ivanlmh said:
Shame thing it does not support usb connection
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May we hope in some fix on the phone os to enable sync functionality?
Will having the S2 attached to the official dock all the time when being at home affect battery life?
Feel like spamming every dock thread with this question.
moromirco said:
May we hope in some fix on the phone os to enable sync functionality?
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I think we must open this dock and cut shorted pins in micro usb plug.
Shorted pins make phone thinking that's an accesory, not USB cable...
Hey guys, I got an official S2 dock, very nice but what a shame, it doesn't sync!!!!!
Anyone has tried something like this??
Disassembly: http://modmomun.blogspot.com/2011/07/disassembly-samsung-galaxy-s2-ii.html
Mod Switch http://modmomun.blogspot.com/2011/07/make-samsung-galaxy-s2-ii-desktop-dock.html
Need some thai translation hehehe
I'm looking to buy one of these, but they are too expensive for my liking, anyone know if I can get THIS for cheaper?

The Limb.al cable (Sweet USB cable with multiple uses)

Just saw this one Kickstarter. Think its going to be a hit. Im def signing up for this one. Will make for a nice car charger for me.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1782458858/the-limbal?ref=live
I like it. I agree it'll be great for the car.
Interesting, but micro usb ports are flimsy as it is.
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No way that thing will hold a Galaxy Nexus securely. The USB port on the phone is already a very weak connection. Not to mention, that thing will probably destroy your port even more than it might already be.
This would actually be great. Might have to put some money towards it.
i'm much more interested in the software that lets you use your phone as a display.
v3rn said:
No way that thing will hold a Galaxy Nexus securely. The USB port on the phone is already a very weak connection. Not to mention, that thing will probably destroy your port even more than it might already be.
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The video shows it holding a GNEX, at like 1 minute.
Thanks we got pogo pins , but accessories cost to much, I have the desktop audio dock, and it's ****ing very high quality, still cheap price for working usb port
tspderek said:
i'm much more interested in the software that lets you use your phone as a display.
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In their picture they're using Air display, which is iOS and OS X only :-(. I too would kill for something like that for android.
kvizz said:
The video shows it holding a GNEX, at like 1 minute.
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He didn't say it wasn't possible, just that it's going to wreck the micro-usb port, which it most likely will.
Using the micro-usb to hold up the phone on its own weight? You’re asking to break the port and possibly ruin the phone.
no thanks
I dont think there should be any issues with this as long as you are careful when first putting it in the micro slot. Just like with a dock or regular charging cable, if you jam it in there, its going to cause havoc. And if it does break it, my phone is under a yr warranty so I wont mind. I think this is going to be a great product. I will write a review once they are shipped in Sept.
I thought about getting one for the car, but then I thought what would happen at a hard braking situation... I'll pass.
BlackKatos said:
I thought about getting one for the car, but then I thought what would happen at a hard braking situation... I'll pass.
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I just wont use it when I am racing, lol.

(UK) Philips Speaker Dock cheap @ Lidl

Details of offer: http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/phi...eaker-dock-34-99-lidl-from-11-10-2012-1327890
HOX might look a little funny on it, but should fit.... anyone tried one?
How do these compare to the HTC official speaker dock? As they can be had for around £41 if they are similar in terms of sound quality it might be better to get the official one for the pogo pin charging?
Give me half an hour and I'll post up pictures and a short video :good:
Pictures:
IMG_1161 by nikzgfx, on Flickr
IMG_1162 by nikzgfx, on Flickr
IMG_1163 by nikzgfx, on Flickr
IMG_1165 by nikzgfx, on Flickr
IMG_1166 by nikzgfx, on Flickr
IMG_1167 by nikzgfx, on Flickr
looks nice, does it work well ?
Thanks very much nikzDHD, think i'll have to get one now
ant78 said:
looks nice, does it work well ?
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It's fine, just remember it's not a dock so it won't sync with anything. It plays music via Bluetooth, has a night light as well and charges phone when connected to dock.
As it's Bluetooth you can connect any Bluetooth device and stream your music, it's loud and sounds good for a mono speaker. Better than on board speaker. I do have a video but my upload speed is poor!
The Philips app is useless so I just connect straight via Bluetooth. I use it at night to charge my phone and as an alarm clock.
For the price it is really good, I was surprised by the sound it produces.
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mugglesquop said:
Thanks very much nikzDHD, think i'll have to get one now
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No problem mate.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwPEKRwboo0&feature=youtu.be
Ive done a little video for YouTube - please dont think i'm stealing any thunder here as thats the last thing on my mind.
However i do want to say a massive thankyou to mugglesquop for revealing this in the first place.
This has the benefit over the other Speaker Dock 'cr s650' in so far as the Philips can bu used with a multitude of phones now and in the future - as long as they have the mini usb ports on them.
Where as only the HTC one X will work with the 650 because of the pogo pins placement and if you upgrade your phone in the future unless its got the exact same layout as the HTC one X then the 650 will be redundant - the Philips though should be better value as even if you upgrade in the future the chances of your new device having a mini usb is high (higher than having the perfect placement of pogo pins i reckon).
EDIT - on a side note when i dock my HTC onto the Philips i have to remove my phone case as the charging port in the Philips wont quite fit snuggly enough to charge.
Soooooo anyone know of any decent gel, silicone, other HTC one X cases that are very thin (but offer protection) that would allow a fit that is more flush with mini usb chargers - thus charging my phone.
I have a MHL adaptor for my TV and on this too i have to remove my phone case otherwise the USB wont fit into my phone quite right - Grrrrrrrrrrrrr
Thanks for any suggestions
Excellent video mate I was having troubles capturing the volume but it is loud.
As for case I use a Tourmate case from obostore and it fits with it on, it is similar to the Rock sand cases which are popular.
For the price it's a decent little driver.
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wolverine73 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwPEKRwboo0&feature=youtu.be
Ive done a little video for YouTube - please dont think i'm stealing any thunder here as thats the last thing on my mind.
However i do want to say a massive thankyou to mugglesquop for revealing this in the first place.
This has the benefit over the other Speaker Dock 'cr s650' in so far as the Philips can bu used with a multitude of phones now and in the future - as long as they have the mini usb ports on them.
Where as only the HTC one X will work with the 650 because of the pogo pins placement and if you upgrade your phone in the future unless its got the exact same layout as the HTC one X then the 650 will be redundant - the Philips though should be better value as even if you upgrade in the future the chances of your new device having a mini usb is high (higher than having the perfect placement of pogo pins i reckon).
EDIT - on a side note when i dock my HTC onto the Philips i have to remove my phone case as the charging port in the Philips wont quite fit snuggly enough to charge.
Soooooo anyone know of any decent gel, silicone, other HTC one X cases that are very thin (but offer protection) that would allow a fit that is more flush with mini usb chargers - thus charging my phone.
I have a MHL adaptor for my TV and on this too i have to remove my phone case otherwise the USB wont fit into my phone quite right - Grrrrrrrrrrrrr
Thanks for any suggestions
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Alright mate, quick question. Did you manage to get the dock extension (little plastic thing) to fit properly over the usb so it was flush? I just got mine today but for some reason the dock extension doesn't go down low enough so the phone won't plug in properly, seems to be getting stuck on the little cogs used to raise and lower the height adjusters, would you mine uploading a pic of it?
Cheers
Daven
@daven
The cogs have got to be wound all the way to the bottom - the little attachment will only fit on the usb section in one way i believe - it goes on about 3/4 of the way and the last bit needs to be pushed with a little force to snap it into place.
Ahh thanks, I got it after applying a bit of force. I was worried about breaking it. Nice youtube video, the dock is brilliant, I've found it to work really well with the sony smart connect app (which I also use for my nfc tags). I've set it up to automatically bluetooth connect to the dock and launch dock mode when the phone is docked, and then play music for an hour when I wake up in morning. Sound quality is surprisingly impressive for something so small.
How did you find the official app for it? I found it to be a bit too cumbersome, so just uninstalled it.
I've frozen songbird and Fidelio using titanium back up and i'm manually turning on bluetooth on the HTC one X and using Power AMP as my music player. :good:
I thought for the first day that i was tied to just using the Songbird/Fidelio combo so went with this. :silly:
Came home from work today and started up Power AMP instead and it works brilliantly, you can even change the graphic equaliser and the Philips Dock adjusts too - perhaps this is a feature of all docks,im not sure as this is my first
Im trying to set up something with 'Tasker' at the moment to get the most out of the Dock, though i have got NFC tags too so might have a play later and see what i can come up with
Just purchased one of the Rock Quicksand cases as its very thin but theres still no way it will dock properly to the speaker dock and charge, even after pushing fairly firmly it wont click in so instead ive removed the little plastic adapter that clicks on the USB and now my phone sits just nicely.
Incidentally i tried to sit the HTC One X onto the USB without its plastic adapter but leaving an ordinary gel case on the phone but that wouldnt work so my best bet is to use the Rock case and remove the plastic adapter off the speaker dock.
wolverine73 said:
Just purchased one of the Rock Quicksand cases as its very thin but theres still no way it will dock properly to the speaker dock and charge, even after pushing fairly firmly it wont click in so instead ive removed the little plastic adapter that clicks on the USB and now my phone sits just nicely.
Incidentally i tried to sit the HTC One X onto the USB without its plastic adapter but leaving an ordinary gel case on the phone but that wouldnt work so my best bet is to use the Rock case and remove the plastic adapter off the speaker dock.
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Just the way I use mine as well. Got the same case as you but Tourmate version. Fits well and protects it too. :thumbup:
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mugglesquop said:
Details of offer: http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/phi...eaker-dock-34-99-lidl-from-11-10-2012-1327890
HOX might look a little funny on it, but should fit.... anyone tried one?
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This is fantastic, I am also interested in
apparently i'm not allowed to buy one, but i might be getting one for christmas :highfive:
(left the page open on the netbook my misses uses

Docking Station

Hi,
so soon my nexus will be here and after over 6 years with iPhone I'm moving to try android.
one think i always loved about my iphone is the docking station, makes life better and easier.
now with the iphone its very easy to find docking station that fit 100% right, and then i dont have to worry about damage to the charging port, the phone is held up very tight and i never had any problem.
on the android camp its harder to find phone specific accessories so heres what i manage to find:
im looking for a cheap solution but can pay a little more if its really worth it
cheap:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-D...AU_MobilePhoneAccessories&hash=item2ecab22c6d
expensive:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-M...Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&hash=item43c158ab0c
the expensive one at least comes with a cable, and heres a video i found that shows that this product might be a better choice:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTyGmNTh6iA
i just dont want the device to wobble freely hanging only by the usb connector.
i also hear that micro usb is much weaker then apple connectors so im a bit worried.
any1 have any experince with such products? what do u think? am i risking damage to my usb port? thanks.
yossi_s1 said:
am i risking damage to my usb port? thanks.
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IMHO ... yes, you are risking damaging the port. I personally wouldn't even consider using one as I've gone through a bunch of phones that the Micro-USB eventually stopped working properly. The Nexus one was notorious for that problem as have been quite a few other devices. Micro-USB just doesn't hold up over time.
Now, back to your problem. One thing the Nexus 5 has over the iPhone is Qi Wireless charging. So, might I suggest stop thinking in terms of how you would plugin in your iPhone to charge it, and to sync it with iTunes. All of this can be done using apps that sync wirelessly (iSyncr etc) and a good Qi charger.
Here's a good starting point for a "dock" like standing position while your N5 charges:
http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-DT910-Wireless-Charging-Stand/dp/B00A3NCC8M
It's important for you to note the orientation of the Micro USB port on the phone. On nexus devices reversed compared to the samsung phones those docks are for. I own the dock on the first link. It will not work with the Nexus.
You need one that's pin-side facing you. Unless you want the phone facing away from you
It's an annoying aspect of the Micro USB standard -- when it comes to direction, there is no standard.
DIY: Not ideal because it doesn't LOOK great but does WORK great. I bought the dock from that first link for my S3 and because of its 'universal'ness it was extremely wobbly, putting much undue strain on the port. I stuck a couple wads of Sugru down on the dock and behind the connector (where the phones back would rest) and stuck my phone in. When it dried after 30 minutes I had a perfect custom fit. Looked like **** though. Function over form in this case.
scirio said:
It's important for you to note the orientation of the Micro USB port on the phone. On nexus devices reversed compared to the samsung phones those docks are for. I own the dock on the first link. It will not work with the Nexus.
You need one that's pin-side facing you. Unless you want the phone facing away from you
It's an annoying aspect of the Micro USB standard -- when it comes to direction, there is no standard.
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this...
but this is also a relatively new thing as the Nexus 4 was the "standard" way that everyone is used to (small side up where the Nexus 5 flipped it to small side down)
For charging, I would recomend the Google's wireless charger: https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_Wireless_Charger?id=nexus_wireless_charger. As for syncing, what kind of things are you going to sync from your computer to your phone? On the android side the majority of things can/are synced over wifi or cloud services.
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Thanks for all the answers...
I didn't think about orientation lol, i forgot about this issue.. so docking stations seems meh ATM
about wireless chargers... quite expensive IMO and i always fear that since the phone is not being held tightly it might fall and break.
i put my phone on a nightstand near my bed so accidents in the dark could happen, and i also like it when the phone is standing so i can see the screen without picking it up.
so that limits the range of wireless chargers i can use.
syncing is not a problem btw.
good thing i asked here.. i almost bought one of those. i guess ill try to find wireless one that suites me.
thanks again!
yossi_s1 said:
Thanks for all the answers...
I didn't think about orientation lol, i forgot about this issue.. so docking stations seems meh ATM
about wireless chargers... quite expensive IMO and i always fear that since the phone is not being held tightly it might fall and break.
i put my phone on a nightstand near my bed so accidents in the dark could happen, and i also like it when the phone is standing so i can see the screen without picking it up.
so that limits the range of wireless chargers i can use.
syncing is not a problem btw.
good thing i asked here.. i almost bought one of those. i guess ill try to find wireless one that suites me.
thanks again!
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Google is your friend as usual, Kidigi are about to launch a Nexus 5 specific dock which is more substantial than the one you were looking at.

Wireless Charging Hardware Mod?

Hi,
I received this phone a few days ago and I am still disappointed that is does not have wireless charging although the back is glass and not metal. I wonder if anyone has tried a hardware mod with something like this. I also saw that there are some external solutions utilising the charging port but I would very much prefer to have that uncovered and I imagine that the linked circuit is way smaller.
I would try it out if no one else did it before if there's a chance of success, so the main question is if there's enough room inside the case and if these three connectors are compatible in general, soldering is no problem if necessary.
you can buy nillkin case wireless charging enabler with tag on aliexpress.com
Brom2 said:
Hi,
I received this phone a few days ago...
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Hi, were you successful in any way?
I didn't continue to investigate because I think there might not be enough room behind the battery for the coils. Also getting the connection to the battery/phone right could be really tricky because everything is so small.

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