KitKat causing SD card problems - woah intentional? - T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3

This has got to be the worst move ever made by Google (and I'm a Google fanboy). Makes me frustrated. Samsung is one of the only companies providing micro sd card slots, and now this comes and screws that up. What can you even do with a micro sd card now besides read it...?!
Here is the article: http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/65841
Leibeck explains what this means to users, writing,
“If your device has user-accessible internal flash storage, your SD Card is a “secondary external storage device”.
What this means is that with KitKat, applications will no longer be able create, modify, or remove files and folders on your external SD card. As a for-instance, you can no longer use a file manager to copy files from your computer to the SD card over a network. This ability, which has existed since the beginning of Android, has been taken away.”
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Mystery? said:
This has got to be the worst move ever made by Google (and I'm a Google fanboy). Makes me frustrated. Samsung is one of the only companies providing micro sd card slots, and now this comes and screws that up. What can you even do with a micro sd card now besides read it...?!
Here is the article: http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/65841
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This is horrible.....shame on google

I'll be waiting. No need to rush in and be an early adopter. I wonder how the S5 is handling this/going to.

Google mess it up on purpose, to force people to use their cloud services and be bombarded by their advertising, that's how they make money and their official explanation to improve security is so lame. Anyhow, hopefully Samsung will fix it sooner or later, or you can root it and fix it yourself, loosing warranty in the process. I took the high road and will not update, until a) it's all fixed or b) my warranty runs out and won't care about Knox at all.
Google gets on my nerves lately, first they messed up new maps update (at least I got option to stay on old version for now) and now this.

rosedog said:
I'll be waiting. No need to rush in and be an early adopter. I wonder how the S5 is handling this/going to.
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So should I not up date the software.
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Google changed it because a lot of folks were having their app data store on the sdcard, which later on caused stability issues with the apps loading. Some resulted in FCs, crashes etc etc. So in order to increase stability, and possibly even security in Android, Google made the move to allow on app data to be stored internally. You can store and do whatever else you want to do on the sdcard like storing music, photos, other files etc etc. App data can no longer be stored on external...
Personally I don't mind, the Note 3 comes with 32GB minimum... That's plenty for me....

Pajar0913 said:
So should I not up date the software.
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I hear ya. 32gb is more than I need.. makes a lot of sense to do it that way.
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I am not sure I understand correctly. I read the above link also.
When I go to my application manager I can still move apps to SD card?

okay, so I take a picture. The photo is not saved on the sd card?

Exfex21 said:
okay, so I take a picture. The photo is not saved on the sd card?
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I'm guessing it is going to be under your stock gallery app and it's saving to your device.
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Limeybastard said:
I am not sure I understand correctly. I read the above link also.
When I go to my application manager I can still move apps to SD card?
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Yes, you can still move some apps to the SD card.
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I'm guessing it is going to be under your stock gallery app and it's saving to your device.
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I still can go to settings and change to save the pictures to the SD card. It's the app data, not pictures that you can't move to an SD card.

These SD card problems are a super-dealbreaker for me, does anyone know a way (via root or whatever) to revert kitkat to previous SD card behaviors? If not, I'm going to have to revert back to Jelly Bean.

jax omen said:
These SD card problems are a super-dealbreaker for me, does anyone know a way (via root or whatever) to revert kitkat to previous SD card behaviors? If not, I'm going to have to revert back to Jelly Bean.
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If you're rooted there is a fix. it's in the kitkat qa thread in the dev section. Seems to work fine.

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Google changed it because a lot of folks were having their app data store on the sdcard, which later on caused stability issues with the apps loading. Some resulted in FCs, crashes etc etc. So in order to increase stability, and possibly even security in Android, Google made the move to allow on app data to be stored internally. You can store and do whatever else you want to do on the sdcard like storing music, photos, other files etc etc. App data can no longer be stored on external...
Personally I don't mind, the Note 3 comes with 32GB minimum... That's plenty for me....
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Why not force apps to be defaulted to internal unless user unchecks that option for people using developers menu and/or root. Sort of like force gpu rendering option.

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Unable to move any apps to new SanDisk 64gb class 10 sdcard

I purchased new 64 GB SanDisk class 10 sdcard and inserted in my phone. My phone however will not move any apps to the card and none of the apps I have are able to move its data to the new card.
It seems that Samsung used an internal storage as "sdcard" and the true sdcard is called an "external sdcard" that most applications does not have access to / or is programmed accordingly. Which essentially renders the card useless.
Have anyone came across this problem?
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Yup, same problem here. Hopefully someone will find a way of working around that soon.
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Yup you said it, samsung made a stupid desicion wit that
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keinam.ty said:
I purchased new 64 GB SanDisk class 10 sdcard and inserted in my phone. My phone however will not move any apps to the card and none of the apps I have are able to move its data to the new card.
It seems that Samsung used an internal storage as "sdcard" and the true sdcard is called an "external sdcard" that most applications does not have access to / or is programmed accordingly. Which essentially renders the card useless.
Have anyone came across this problem?
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There's a thread that goes into great detail on this problem in the international gs3 section. It's actually Google who's coding this in now, but alot of manufacturers are using a workaround, but not samsung. The card is pretty much good for music, movies, and any large downloads you may want to transfer there. To my knowledge Cyanogenmod & possibly AOKP still work the way it should, but touchwiz based roms will not. There is an app somewhere on XDA that will allow you to store large data files for games to the sd, but again, I believe it's in the i9300 forum. I hope this will help you some.
Edit: check out xda tv on YouTube, and there's a recent video from the new girl Erica where she covers some type of work around for the gs3 I think?
Thanks, that almost sounds like it's better to root? Touch Wiz isn't that bad but I am not a fan of it. Samsung was nice to let us disable all bloatware but making the sd card useless is really idiotic. I almost want to say what's the point of the scared then?
I'll do ssome more research on this thanks.
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If the app has separate data downloads try this for me, move the data to the external sd card, delete data and app from the internal sd card. redownload app and see if it recognizes the data on the external card. I mad copies as back up of a few big meg data downloads on the external card. I did an odin recovery, when I downloaded the apps again they found the data on their own on the external card.
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If the app has separate data downloads try this for me, move the data to the external sd card, delete data and app from the internal sd card. redownload app and see if it recognizes the data on the external card. I mad copies as back up of a few big meg data downloads on the external card. I did an odin recovery, when I downloaded the apps again they found the data on their own on the external card.
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An interesting thought, I can definitively move data to external card – I’ll try this tonight and report back. Thought even if this works it still isn’t a solution.
For example;
1. Many backup applications hardcode the SDCard’s location which in this case it always will be internal memory
2. Navigation data gets downloaded into internal memory
3. Google music gets downloaded into internal memory, I could not find any option to move it – its simply unavailable.
4. I don’t have to move all apps to the external card, but the few games/apps stored in the external card sounds like a good idea sine those are not essential for me (especially the once with lots of storage requirements).
5. Any podcasts / videos also won’t go to the external storage
6. Some applications lets you backup their settings like preferences RSS lists etc – all those also go to internal memory.
In my opinion the following must happen:
1. “All developers” must update their applications to accommodate for S3’s changed card location
2. Google must update its code and allow apps / data move to external card.
I’ll call t-mobile to see whatever they have to say about this.
I spoke to t-mobile and was told I can return the phone if I don't like it. Essentially the SD card is “useless” and according to T-Mobile’s rep only works with pictures and videos – the phone is sold as is. Apparently they know nothing about this and never heard of any plans for a fix.
They also gave me phone number to Samsung’s support which I’ll call tonight and report back.
I wonder how that works after the phone is rooted with custom ROM. Has anyone tried this? Please let me know if you did….
If your going to return it, simply use Odin to go back to factory fresh stock.
I think this is a push for more of us to use cloud storage which is cool but I like using physical sd card for storage..
I'm having to make do with my 16gb internal as games get bigger and eat up storage. My 64gb is almost useless if I had known this I would have gotten like a 32gb card and saved some cash.
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But don't return this phone. It's still legendary!
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I agree, this phone is FAN-FUKING-TRAGIC.. Best phone by far. Ummm, how do we use the cloud to store stuff though? And could we use it to move apps and free up space? Sorry if my questions are dumb to some, just not sure what the cloud is
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Did you try doing what I said?
The cloud is pretty much a usb stick u don't have to carry around with you. You can't store installed apps there but you can store anything else on it like apks to install later music, docs. Pretty much anything you would store on a usb.
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@ stevessvt Yes I have but it did not work - I am pretty sure I screwed something up 
I don’t think I will be returning this phone, there isn’t anything better on T-Mobile unfortunately and S3 has better specs then Latest Nexus. Now I think I will research about S3 rooting and whether it makes sense to root this phone and put custom ROM on it.
Thanks everyone!
This isn't Samsungs doing, it's how Google has made android from ics on. Other manufacturers that make their phones able to install apps on your external sd are using a workaround by modifying the code, but I've read that it's really not ideal? If your using titanium backup to keep your apps backed up then you need to run a backup. Then go into your internal sd & move the TB folder to your external sd. Go back into titanium backup & select preferences from the settings menu. There select backup folder location & hit the Detect button. Now your backups should go to external storage.
You can also go under settings in the stock Web browser & change your download location to external so that large roms download to external sd. If your using the new version of twrp for the Tmo gs3 that they released today, then you can check the box under backup that says backup to external. That will also save room on your internal storage.
Personally I prefer all of my apps on internal. They open faster & write data much faster to internal then to an sd card. I really only use my sd card for holding movies, backups, & large file downloads. As I stated in my previous post, AOKP & Cyanogenmod still can install apps to sd if that's what you prefer. I honestly think we should be able to choose for ourselves, but unfortunately I don't make the rules. If you look in the international section I read a thread somewhere that had an app that will let you store the large data files from games on your external storage. That's the only apps that really take up a significant amount of space. Music can take up a lot of space, but with Google play music keeping 20gb of music in the cloud for you, that shouldn't be much of an issue to those of us who are in good coverage areas. I hope this helped some of you to maximize your storage space.
Just a friendly advice...T-Mobile is the last place you want to go for any answers. The people who work there (most, not all) are complete stupid over the top freakin' idiots. They know nothing and often times just search their data base or google something for answers. Most 99.9% do not have any first hand knowledge of anything about phones. They just know the same $#!t you can read off the box....
Complete idiots..
Anyhow, just hang tight as I'm sure there will be work around this in the very near future. It's not a big deal at all.... just do what fellow member: stevessvt said...it works....
Good luck!
keinam.ty said:
I spoke to t-mobile and was told I can return the phone if I don't like it. Essentially the SD card is “useless” and according to T-Mobile’s rep only works with pictures and videos – the phone is sold as is. Apparently they know nothing about this and never heard of any plans for a fix.
They also gave me phone number to Samsung’s support which I’ll call tonight and report back.
I wonder how that works after the phone is rooted with custom ROM. Has anyone tried this? Please let me know if you did….
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I don't see how you can fill 16gb with just applications anytime soon
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es7241 said:
I don't see how you can fill 16gb with just applications anytime soon
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Games and some utilities apps, my iPhone was 32 gb after 6 months I had 3 gb left and only 1gb of music
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Let me first off apologize for getting a lil off topic with this question, however, I Just got the SGS3 (which by the way is the GREATEST PHONE EVER MADE!!! If God or Allah or Buda or whatever higher up, power that be owned a phone... It would be this one. LOL) OK, back on track now. So I'm coming from an HTC phone and I have a TON of bookmarks stored on my browser that I want to transfer over to my new phone. My question is, where can I find my browsers bookmarks using file explorer so that I can zip it up in a file to send to my phones browser? Or is there a better, easier way to do this??
Please help
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Any way to move apps to ext sd card???

ok, so I purchased a Galaxy s3 today. could not move the apps to the ext sd card. So, I rooted it thinking if it was rooted, I would be able to move the files. Still no luck. Why has samsung devised this phone not to be able to move apps to sd card. It is like going back in time to the hero. Is there a work around on this issue?
ICS and JB don't allow moving, I guess that's why phones have more than 1 or 2 gigs now.
It's not Samsung, it's Android.
catman51 said:
ICS and JB don't allow moving, I guess that's why phones have more than 1 or 2 gigs now.
It's not Samsung, it's Android.
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It still allows moving to SD on devices with 2gb or less internal, or a partitioned internal. However internal SD on this device is just a folder on the single partition allowing you to use the entire space for anything from apps-zips and everything in between
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ok, so what is the ext sd card used for? storing pictures and other media files?
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ok, so what is the ext sd card used for? storing pictures and other media files?
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Yea incase u fill ur internal up basically, I tend tto save apps, and pics/vids I've recently taken on internal and roms music and wallpapers and such on external just cuz I can pop out external to transfer from PC faster
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We are legion, for we are many!
Droidsail from the market. It allows you to force them. Leave widgets
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Droidsail is for rooted only.
My bad. I've been rooted so long that I wrongly assume that everyone else is also
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Been very scared (I guess that's the word) of doing it. Maybe someday I will root!!
Works on the Galaxy S3?
So are you guys saying that Droidsail works on the Galaxy S3?
What option did you use? Internal? SD? Auto?
Thanks
Mike
catman51 said:
Been very scared (I guess that's the word) of doing it. Maybe someday I will root!!
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Don't be sacred. Just be cautious. Check out the stickies. QBKing77 has great easy to follow videos. In addition, if you do have a problem, there are many in this great community willing to help you. Just FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS COMPLETELY....sorry for raising my voice
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i live by QBKing77's videos. here is the best video to watch to root. He assumes NOTHING and takes you from step one to the finished product.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoEVDgjTTdg&feature=plcp
hope this one helps
using Droidsail, did you find that when you moved your apps that they did continue run properly on the phone?
So no way without rooting?
I have tried rooting but keep getting "Failed to verify whole signature"
baloofalo said:
So no way without rooting?
I have tried rooting but keep getting "Failed to verify whole signature"
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droidsail doesnt work
For those who are Rooted. You may want to check out the link below . Been using this for a while. On both the wife's, and my device. Very happy with it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30624655
TEAM MiK
MikROMs Since 3/13/11
It has been my experience that even rooting your SG3 will not allow you the ability to move hour apps to the SD card. If you discover a way to do that and still have them be functional i would love to hear it. Hope this answers your question.
mookiemoo said:
It has been my experience that even rooting your SG3 will not allow you the ability to move hour apps to the SD card. If you discover a way to do that and still have them be functional i would love to hear it. Hope this answers your question.
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Yes I've found the same thing would love an answer to this problem
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mookiemoo said:
ok, so I purchased a Galaxy s3 today. could not move the apps to the ext sd card. So, I rooted it thinking if it was rooted, I would be able to move the files. Still no luck. Why has samsung devised this phone not to be able to move apps to sd card. It is like going back in time to the hero. Is there a work around on this issue?
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Why do you want your apps moved to the sd card, are you running out of internal memory? I keep all my apps on internal and have my sd card for music and pics. The s3 has enough memory not to have that problem of needing apps moved to sd card. Well that's IMO.
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Just from everything I have read moving apps to sd has caused more issues than anything on the S3. But hey to each his own.
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[Q] Note II - Apps2sd Issue

I have a Note II (Sprint) and i recently purchased a class 10 64GB Sd card, i rooted my phone and followed Galaxynote2root video on youtube (i can't post link but it's the one about apps2sd) https:// www youtube.com/watch?v=QUF7R0mmk00
It did work, it's showing that i have at least 59GB on my "Internal" and my REAL internal is now showing up as SD with 700mbs.
The Problem: While it shows that i have a lot of space, anything i download is going straight to internal (real) not the 64GB card.
What i want be able to do: - To take all my apps/files from my internal drive and move them to the 64GB SD card
- Have any files i download/install go directly to 64GB SD card
I purchased Titanium backup but it's not moving the files to SD it says it moved but storage app is not counting
I'm so confused if anyone has the time to help me i will greatly appreciate it.
Google in all their wisdom removed app2Sd in Android 4.0 and up. This is why we need a 32 and 64 version off this phone. Make sure your titanium backup defaults to your external as well as the camera to save internal space.
kronium said:
Google in all their wisdom removed app2Sd in Android 4.0 and up. This is why we need a 32 and 64 version off this phone. Make sure your titanium backup defaults to your external as well as the camera to save internal space.
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I know this isn't the ideal solution, but can we at least move the large Data or Obb files onto the extSD card and then move them back when we want to play the game (Like Asphalt 7 and Dark Knight)?
jconway1968 said:
I know this isn't the ideal solution, but can we at least move the large Data or Obb files onto the extSD card and then move them back when we want to play the game (Like Asphalt 7 and Dark Knight)?
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Sadly no. I've not been able to use any kind of apps to do this.
Between Google Music cache, google maps/earth cache, tumbler cache, Bard's Tale, and Asphalt 7 that's using up almost 9gb of space on the internal "card" partition. It's crazy that the Evo3D could easily move apps/data to the SDCard but we've taken such a huge step back with this flaw.
kronium said:
Google in all their wisdom removed app2Sd in Android 4.0 and up. This is why we need a 32 and 64 version off this phone. Make sure your titanium backup defaults to your external as well as the camera to save internal space.
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Huh? There was apps2sd in 3rd party ics builds for my evo4g. It will probably take some time to port it to the various N2 ROMs unless there is some overpowering technical reason for it bot working. N2 is still new and young and devs are still getting the hang of it. Stock OTA might not ever get it but who stays at stock?
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Skripka said:
Huh? There was apps2sd in 3rd party ics builds for my evo4g. It will probably take some time to port it to the various N2 ROMs unless there is some overpowering technical reason for it bot working. N2 is still new and young and devs are still getting the hang of it. Stock OTA might not ever get it but who stays at stock?
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In the Play Store description on apps2sd the developer specifically lists the Galaxy Note 2 as a device which is NOT compatible. :crying:, not happy about that one either. Cause with the potential of this device and its display I want to d/l kick ass games but can't plug up my internal storage when I have a perfectly good class 10 32Gb SD card!
The only fix for this to my knowledge at this time(which my knowledge about moving apps to the sd card is not extensive at the moment. I have done a little research. ) the only solution at the time is an available script. Which I saw on Galaxynote2root.com as well. But I am personally not familiar enough with the method nor how it may interact with a custom ROM therefore I am personally waiting for either a clearer description of the process or a different method all together.
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I got it guys!
Okay
The video teaches you how to flip your SDcard for the Internal, so the phone thinks you are installing on the internal but it's actually the SD (CONFUSING LOL) So when i went to titanium pro, i was super confused with the whole "Move to SD" i didn't know if it was moving to SD or the Internal since i flipped it was all super confusing to me i'm new to android, i've had an iPhone since the first one and decided to get a Note II about a week ago.
So what i did was just deleted all my apps, followed the video and installed all the apps again from the play store and it went to the 64GB card!!! So yay :highfive:
Apps/games run great not even lag at all, camera/videos save to 64GB so i'm really happy.
Careful with that card. Definitely not as reliable as internal memory. Especially if your taxing it with everyday constant use .
I just ran into this issue, no space at all! I just realized that my titanium had been installing to my internal.
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Tw1sted247 said:
In the Play Store description on apps2sd the developer specifically lists the Galaxy Note 2 as a device which is NOT compatible. :crying:, not happy about that one either. Cause with the potential of this device and its display I want to d/l kick ass games but can't plug up my internal storage when I have a perfectly good class 10 32Gb SD card!
The only fix for this to my knowledge at this time(which my knowledge about moving apps to the sd card is not extensive at the moment. I have done a little research. ) the only solution at the time is an available script. Which I saw on Galaxynote2root.com as well. But I am personally not familiar enough with the method nor how it may interact with a custom ROM therefore I am personally waiting for either a clearer description of the process or a different method all together.
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Cry no more... This worked for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262&highlight=note+2
Jusy make sure you read all the posts.
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jconway1968 said:
Cry no more... This worked for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262&highlight=note+2
Jusy make sure you read all the posts.
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Not all 105 pages though right?
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Subiegsr said:
Not all 105 pages though right?
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At least the first several... and this one for sure...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=34291347&postcount=1001
Good luck and don't forget to hit the thanks button if I help you...
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At least the first several... and this one for sure...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=34291347&postcount=1001
Good luck and don't forget to hit the thanks button if I help you...
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Says I don't have enough space to install wtf
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Highly disappointed with lack of app2sd RANT

Partially my fault for not researching jellybean...just read about how smooth it was & didnt expect them to take features away. I recall reading the article about the bs reason saying people confuse the internal & external memory. U would think they wouldve learned from wp7 when they took away sd support & started being like apple. I figured it was bs article. I wasnt even planning on buying a phone but my 4g slide tapped out after a few case less drops. I was just gonna buy another mytouch since theres not much of high end qwerty selection but gn2 note caught my eye.
I was sort of mad too, but around 10gb for apps has been plenty for me when I put everything else on external memory.
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I was sort of mad too, but around 10gb for apps has been plenty for me when I put everything else on external memory.
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Im deleting apps all the time to be able to get new one.
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There has to be a way around this...
It's not that people confuse the memory. The problem is that when an app is put onto your SD card, it cannot sync correctly with the operating system. Therefore, Google is doing what they can to keep users from putting apps onto their SD cards. Hence the lack of the SD slot in Nexus devices.
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It's not that people confuse the memory. The problem is that when an app is put onto your SD card, it cannot sync correctly with the operating system. Therefore, Google is doing what they can to keep users from putting apps onto their SD cards. Hence the lack of the SD slot in Nexus devices.
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u sound like a pr rep lol...im still a android newbie but Ive never have ne problems with apps relating to my sd. If a app/game works best or only on the phones memory most developers ive came have stated up front it even back to my wm days.
I'm pissed at this too. This app2sd and the "no more free tethering" thing is pushing me over the edge to go rooted.
I'll never buy a Nexus because of their flawed philosophy that Google has adopted:
1. Non removable battery.
2. No removable storage. "Everything belongs in the Cloud" I call BS!
I've got a 64 Gb SD card that's somewhat useless if I can't install apps on it. And since only the 16 Gb versions of the Note 2 are in circulation it's very disappointing.
The ship has sailed. Google hates external storage. Don't expect to ever see official OS support for it going forward. It's irritating but reality.
I agree this is total bs. I will not buy another phone that doesnt have external sd. Had an Htc one S and I hated it for that reason. (sense is terrible also)
Hope there's an easy fix soon since I use the GN2 as my table and smartphone now. Didn't have any issues before since I had most games on my N7 but now I'm out of room
There are work arounds. But real fix as of this date.
This is Samsung following Google wishes. I just hope the GN3 will have at least 64gb of internal storage. Then we can use the SD the way Google wants SD cards used. The worst part is that many apps that download media content into your device doesn't allow to save the media content within the extSdCard. That is really annoying. Without being able to use the extSdCard as a media content storage then what does Google expect we use SD cards for?
Samsung is part in fault too. Samsung is well known to put too little storage and main memory into PPC devices. I remember my Samsung Omnia i910. I had to move so many files from the main memory into the storage memory and even into SD card. Then I had to work on other files, like the registry, ini files, etc.. to point to the files I moved. All just to get more space within the main memory for more apps. Windows OS, even Windows Mobile, added major files within the Windows directory every time you install another app that took so much room within the smallest main memory. Samsung is doing similar with GN2. 10gb is barely any room now days with Android.
Samsung needs to lead the pack all the way. SD card, large screen and large capacity of removable battery, 1.6 quad-core, 2gb RAM is not enough to lead the pack all the way. They also need to lead the pack with 1080+ res screen and 64gb+ internal storage memory. I feel that Samsung miss the "leader of the pack" mark with GN2. Samsung needs to realize they are competing against other Androids as well as iPhone.
But the blame starts at Google on app2sd issue.
Switch internal to external(sdcard)
want to have more app storage space for your HD games and what not, here’s a simple App2SD script you can use to store all of your apps on your microSD card. *This will essentially swap your internal storage with your microSD card and allow you to use up to 64GB of space (if you use 64GB microSD card).This should work on all the Galaxy Note 2, test on international GT-N7100, T-Mobile SGH-T889, and Sprint SPH-L900.
Step 1. First, you will need a rooted Galaxy Note 2. *This will work on any custom ROMs except CM10 or AOKP.
Step 2. Second, I highly recommend you to format your microSD card before using this. *Also, after formatting you can copy the contents of your internal storage to your microSD card
Step 3. Download the script on your phone: downloadandroidrom.com/file/GalaxyNote2/app2sdNote2
Step 4. Install and open Script Manager app on Play Store.
Step 5. Using Script Manager app, find the app2sd script on your microSD card and enable “SU” and “Boot”. Step 6. Reboot. *You should now see your microSD card used as internal storage and internal storage as microSD card.
Will this work with a rooted phone but with stock rom? How effective is this method?
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I've been running the storage swap script for a couple months now with no issues. I've used it on stock based roms kernel s along with custom ones as well. I'm using a 32GB fat 32 and am not sure if it supports exfat on 64 cards. Go look for it via search. It's in the sgs3 section somewhere. It's truly a lifesaver for us app/game hoarders
Ill look into that i have a 64gb card i would really like to put to use i only have 2gb available after only 4 games, do you have a link don where to get instructions and files?
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This really is more of an issue with app developers not allowing data to be stored on extsdcard. They would only need to pop up a box with options of were to store the large data files. It could look like this:
search device for sdcard implementation (/sdcard, /extsdcard, /sdacard/ext/, etc.)
pop-up box displays radio button with each storage location, really cool deb's would add option for custom location.
Set location to variable, use variable throughout program.
Just my 2 cents, I think that either this needs to occur or google require a set way of implementing internal/external SD cards.
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Root and install Directory Bind
I was disappointed too and only got 1gb left on my internal and have 64 gb almost unused mSD. So I finally decided to root my phone and install Directory Bind.
Working as intended now.
I have a post in the themes & apps forum with an app I found on the market that let's you store your game data onto an sd card.
It's called gl2sd, you can check in that forum (there's a direct link to it), or just search the market.
Not sure it supports exfat, but it's worth a quick look.
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This really is more of an issue with app developers not allowing data to be stored on extsdcard. They would only need to pop up a box with options of were to store the large data files. It could look like this:
search device for sdcard implementation (/sdcard, /extsdcard, /sdacard/ext/, etc.)
pop-up box displays radio button with each storage location, really cool deb's would add option for custom location.
Set location to variable, use variable throughout program.
Just my 2 cents, I think that either this needs to occur or google require a set way of implementing internal/external SD cards.
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Excellent point, friend! You always make good/useful comments and could always use more users like you.:highfive: A few minor points, I do miss move to sd option so the lack of kinda falls in line with this forced move to dropbox, cloud, lack of sd card etc. Oh sh!t don't get me started on the Nextel line these days. I have to say the manufacturers and Google are just as responsible as developers. They're all guilty really lol Besides those poor moves though, Android is doing great. I am so glad I preordered that G1 many moons ago. I guess its all who you ask I guess and sometimes we are stuck in our old ways... even us techies. Fo example, I was really stubborn about qwertys and surprisingly don't miss it. So who knows? It's either we're too stubborn to change or we don't like being told what to do.... maybe both Either way, the storage swap script works flawlessly once you set it up properly. As I mentioned earlier, not sure about 64 exfat but I'm sure you can switch it to fat 32 plus all you cm10 fans will have done this already. Hope that helps some...
I use this app to move big data files to the external sd https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.slf.ListglApp&hl=en
I also use this app to get around the "insufficient storage" error that sometimes occurs https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.buak.Link2SD

Possible photo recovery? Deleted via ES File Explorer

This is more of a general Android question rather than a Galaxy S4 question but hopefully somebody has knowledge about it on this board. Basically I had some old, nostalgic pictures that were saved to my external SD card first, and then moved to my internal memory into a special folder via ES File Explorer and I ended up deleting them because I thought I wouldn't need them anymore. I deleted them from my internal memory via ES File Explorer. Mind you, I HAVE done several wipes of internal storage from installing ROM's and whatnot so I honestly think it's beyond unrecoverable.
Do you think there are copies of the pictures saved on my external SD card that a super highpowered recovery program would find since the pictures were put on there first and then moved? Or am I really **** out of luck? I don't know how data recovery works from media storage but I thought maybe these could be recovered.
I have tried using DiskDigger made specifically for Android and scanning internal memory and it did turn up some old pictures but not the ones I was hoping for. Wondering if there's some other method maybe?
I have to look in my tech dvds for a applications that I use.
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KRAZYADROIDMASTER said:
I have to look in my tech dvds for a applications that I use.
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If it's too time consuming you don't have to.
If they're gone, it's fine. I still have them visualized in my mind . Just sucks I deleted them without thinking twice.
Try recuva: http://www.piriform.com/recuva
If nothing else has been written over the files, they will still be recoverable, as deleting a file only marks the space as usable. If anything has written over that space, however, you are unfortunately SoL. There are higher end recovery software suites that will help recovery partial files and whatnot, but recuva is super easy to use and is free, so I would start there.
brian117 said:
I have tried using DiskDigger made specifically for Android and scanning internal memory and it did turn up some old pictures but not the ones I was hoping for. Wondering if there's some other method maybe?
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Are you sure you scanned the right location? Depending on the camera app and its settings they can be stored on both the internal and external sd card. I'ved used DiskDigger numerous times and it found very old images.
By chance, would this be a 64gb microsd?
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Are you sure you scanned the right location? Depending on the camera app and its settings they can be stored on both the internal and external sd card. I'ved used DiskDigger numerous times and it found very old images.
By chance, would this be a 64gb microsd?
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No it's a 32GB. I scanned data for internal and scanned my external card yes. Strange thing is it would display the pictures I already have saved and would make the list really long so going through it was a pain. I'll try it again tonight but I doubt it will work.
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No it's a 32GB. I scanned data for internal and scanned my external card yes. Strange thing is it would display the pictures I already have saved and would make the list really long so going through it was a pain. I'll try it again tonight but I doubt it will work.
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I asked about the card size because I got burnt with a fake 64gb card. Once it was about 6gb full images would start to corrupt or vanish and I couldnt recover them.
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I asked about the card size because I got burnt with a fake 64gb card. Once it was about 6gb full images would start to corrupt or vanish and I couldnt recover them.
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Thanks for the heads up. That has to suck though I'm sorry. You should have returned it right when you found out it was a fake.

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