[Q] Very Frustrated NOOOOOOOOOB - 8.9" Kindle Fire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have a Kindle Fire HD 8.9 running 8.4.8 front facing camera. In the last week i think i have read every thread on here and watched every video here and on youtube trying to get a procedure to follow. I have tried a couple and ended up 3 different times having to restore to factory to get my kindle to boot back up normal. What I would like to do is have the ability to use the google play store as well as keep my amazon loader and amazon store just because i think its easier for what i do. I know i need to root my device and prob add a 2nd bootloader. My problem is i don't see one that says that it will work with 8.4.8 or im just dumber then i think i am. I have seen some posts that say they have been successful in this venture but used different options then are stated that really makes it more confusing. I can follow a procedure just need to know which ones to use. Thanks For anybodies help....
Frustrated unrooted Kindle User Larry

larryb1951 said:
I have a Kindle Fire HD 8.9 running 8.4.8 front facing camera. In the last week i think i have read every thread on here and watched every video here and on youtube trying to get a procedure to follow. I have tried a couple and ended up 3 different times having to restore to factory to get my kindle to boot back up normal. What I would like to do is have the ability to use the google play store as well as keep my amazon loader and amazon store just because i think its easier for what i do. I know i need to root my device and prob add a 2nd bootloader. My problem is i don't see one that says that it will work with 8.4.8 or im just dumber then i think i am. I have seen some posts that say they have been successful in this venture but used different options then are stated that really makes it more confusing. I can follow a procedure just need to know which ones to use. Thanks For anybodies help....
Frustrated unrooted Kindle User Larry
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The old procedure works with 8.4.8 so don't worry about that, the problem with it is that the current freedomboot image is incompatible with 8.4.8, it will bootloop into twrp, so you have two options, don't install 2ndbootloader+twrp until a update comes out, or the easier option, flash a rom on it like cm. If you decide to flash a custom rom on it then remember to put it on the device ahead of time or you will have to push it onto the device with "adb push" from a command line.

frustrated kindle nooooob
stunts513 said:
The old procedure works with 8.4.8 so don't worry about that, the problem with it is that the current freedomboot image is incompatible with 8.4.8, it will bootloop into twrp, so you have two options, don't install 2ndbootloader+twrp until a update comes out, or the easier option, flash a rom on it like cm. If you decide to flash a custom rom on it then remember to put it on the device ahead of time or you will have to push it onto the device with "adb push" from a command line.
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Revision: Well it appears some how i Have my kindle rooted if i run root checker it says it is and busybox you answered my question about twrp and a second bootloader so i guess i will wait for an update hopefully soon not sure how i accomplished this bc the last thing i did was a factory restore but i have run root checker and it says it ok. my next question is can i still load google store with the stock loader until a fix comes for twerp and 2nd bootloader??????thanxxxxxxx ps whats the old proceedure?

You can still use the Google play store as long as it is rooted, also as to the method there are 2, one is for people not familiar with command line, while the other is purely from command line. While I am completely comfortable with command line myself, I used the fire flash method, the only thing you have to make sure you don't skip is the part where you check the box either above or beside the red warning text or you will have a nice red screen brick on reboot that usually you can recover from. Somehow people don't see that checkbox. Either way the bootloader has to be downgraded first, if you do it the command line way you will definitely want to md5sum the file to make sure it is a perfect downloaded copy of the original or risk a hard brick. The guides on how to do it are here:
Fireflash
Command Line
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Very Frustrated NOOOOOOOOOB
What should I charge to replace kfhd8-freedom-boot-8.4.6.img like my version 8.4.8

boris_m80 said:
What should I charge to replace kfhd8-freedom-boot-8.4.6.img like my version 8.4.8
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you don't theres not a newer verison out yet, just use the old one and put the rom you want to flash on it ahead of time so when it bootloops you can flash anothe rrom instead.

stunts513 said:
The old procedure works with 8.4.8 so don't worry about that, the problem with it is that the current freedomboot image is incompatible with 8.4.8, it will bootloop into twrp, so you have two options, don't install 2ndbootloader+twrp until a update comes out, or the easier option, flash a rom on it like cm. If you decide to flash a custom rom on it then remember to put it on the device ahead of time or you will have to push it onto the device with "adb push" from a command line.
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Dam I should've read this before i tried to do mine.
It was 8.4.8 and its stuck on the twrp now coz i used the old freedomboot image with it.
If anyone could tell me a way to revert back to amazon or just get out of this loop i would be very grateful. thanks!

Adb push.... See my pm that explains further.
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stunts513 said:
you don't theres not a newer verison out yet, just use the old one and put the rom you want to flash on it ahead of time so when it bootloops you can flash anothe rrom instead.
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Well I have the rooting down and the playstore down ive done it so many times as well as restore and factory resets now my problem is
1. first i can boot to fastboot by using adb commands but if i try to boot to fast boot using for instance KFFirstAide it just sits at waiting for device but i can command fast boot and reboot to normal from ADB . Fast boot commands dont work any fix for that.
2. I have tried to load the google aps using the tutorial both automatically and manually but cant seem to get them to work during automatic it returns with not enough disk spave for half the aps and trying to do it manually there are about 6 apks it will not let me move to system aps folder and will not let me move any of the lib.so files to system/lib says copy or move failed no reason given any body have any ideas about this thx i have have done and half not lol i see a restore again in my future if i dont get this figured out. Tried to ask in the KFFirstaide Thread but i think they are gone???????
BTW kindle fure hd 8.9 8.4.8 rooted and playstore and ES3 installed THANX

You probably didn't mount the system partition as read write before you attempted to copy. BTW Don t use the MV command across partitions, it doesn't work correctly for some reason last I checked. If you are doing this from an adb or uneven if you aren't, run this:
Code:
adb shell
su
mount -o rw,remount /system
Now copying files to system should work.
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stunts513 said:
You probably didn't mount the system partition as read write before you attempted to copy. BTW Don t use the MV command across partitions, it doesn't work correctly for some reason last I checked. If you are doing this from an adb or uneven if you aren't, run this:
Code:
adb shell
su
mount -o rw,remount /system
Now copying files to system should work.
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thanks again u always have the answers how about the fast boot issue any ideas?

I'm a little confused as to what it's doing but maybe I didn't read far back enough(also I had a almost complete post in tapatalk, came back half an hour later to finish and bumped the back button and cleared my post... OK let's see if I can finish this post without throwing my kindle across the room...) Alright first things first, if it's going into fastboot and your commands aren't worming with it keep in mind you have to install the adb driver again when it goes into fastboot. If it already doesn't show up as jem or tate or w/e and shows up as an adb device when in fastboot then remember this: fastboot commands have to be prefixed on kindles with "-i 0x1949", like so "fastboot -i 0x1949 getvar product". Hope that helps.
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stunts513 said:
I'm a little confused as to what it's doing but maybe I didn't read far back enough(also I had a almost complete post in tapatalk, came back half an hour later to finish and bumped the back button and cleared my post... OK let's see if I can finish this post without throwing my kindle across the room...) Alright first things first, if it's going into fastboot and your commands aren't worming with it keep in mind you have to install the adb driver again when it goes into fastboot. If it already doesn't show up as jem or tate or w/e and shows up as an adb device when in fastboot then remember this: fastboot commands have to be prefixed on kindles with "-i 0x1949", like so "fastboot -i 0x1949 getvar product". Hope that helps.
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well let me see if i can explain better using firstaide if i run diagnostic and boot to fastboot it goes in to fastboot and boots out using adb commands and if i send a fastboot command while it is off it boots into fastboot but if i run option thats says if kindle can respond to simple fastboot commands it says i have a damaged
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* This Option Will Use A Fastboot To Command To Simply *
* Query The Kindle To Display It's System Informtion *
* This Simple Non-Destructive Command Is A Good Way To *
* Determin If Fastboot Is Enabled And If The Kindle Is *
* Responding To Simple Commands. If The Kindle Responds *
* To This Command It Is Safe To Proceed With Other *
* Fastboot Commands. *
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Press any key to continue . . .
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* OK Here We Go, We Are Beginning The Process! *
The system cannot find the file specified.
*The Kindle Is Not Responding To Simple Fastboot*
* Commands. Check The Device Manager For Yellow *
* Traingles. If You See One Or Two Traingles *
* Post The Screen Shot In Our Thread. You May *
* A Damaged Recovery Partition. *
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< waiting for device >
and thats what i get. Thx
oh and still cant copy those files for google aps procedure just dont get it i can copy some of the apks to the system/aps folder and change permission so system must be rw but there are 7 of them i cant and cannot move any of the lib files at all to the system/lib folder im perplexed

This is why I do things manually... I get more technical output. Shift + right click kffa's folder and hit "open command prompt here"(or something like that. )Type "fastboot -i 0x1949 getvar product" and press enter while your kindle is in fastboot. See if it responds.
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This is why I do things manually... I get more technical output. Shift + right click kffa's folder and hit "open command prompt here"(or something like that. )Type "fastboot -i 0x1949 getvar product" and press enter while your kindle is in fastboot. See if it responds.
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C:\KFFirstAide>fastboot -i 0x1949 getvar product
< waiting for device >
thats the result!

Sounds like its either not showing up or is a driver issue then. If it doesn't show up while in fastboot, that's usually bad. If it doesn't show up, I believe you should be able to reflash the bootloader from inside whatever os is on it as long as it is rooted. Wouldn't suggest doing that unless you have to.
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stunts513 said:
Sounds like its either not showing up or is a driver issue then. If it doesn't show up while in fastboot, that's usually bad. If it doesn't show up, I believe you should be able to reflash the bootloader from inside whatever os is on it as long as it is rooted. Wouldn't suggest doing that unless you have to.
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well i can boot to fastboot using adb if i need be so really not sure there is a real problem unless i have to use fast boot command then it will fail but as long as i have the option to boot to fast boot using ADB maybe im better off leaving things alone ?

larryb1951 said:
I have a Kindle Fire HD 8.9 running 8.4.8 front facing camera. In the last week i think i have read every thread on here and watched every video here and on youtube trying to get a procedure to follow. I have tried a couple and ended up 3 different times having to restore to factory to get my kindle to boot back up normal. What I would like to do is have the ability to use the google play store as well as keep my amazon loader and amazon store just because i think its easier for what i do. I know i need to root my device and prob add a 2nd bootloader. My problem is i don't see one that says that it will work with 8.4.8 or im just dumber then i think i am. I have seen some posts that say they have been successful in this venture but used different options then are stated that really makes it more confusing. I can follow a procedure just need to know which ones to use. Thanks For anybodies help....
Frustrated unrooted Kindle User Larry
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Im in your same situation, just got the same exact kindle with 8.4.8. Would you mind telling me which tutorial you finally used that worked? I have been rooting and putting custom roms on my galaxy s4 for a year, jailbreaking iphones for years, etc., but this rooting the kindle is just driving me crazy trying to figure out what instructions to follow that dont leave me with an expensive brick. All I really want to do is be able to install google play store and apps, and change the background and/or lockscreen wallpaper... Thanks,..

Solange82200 said:
Im in your same situation, just got the same exact kindle with 8.4.8. Would you mind telling me which tutorial you finally used that worked? I have been rooting and putting custom roms on my galaxy s4 for a year, jailbreaking iphones for years, etc., but this rooting the kindle is just driving me crazy trying to figure out what instructions to follow that dont leave me with an expensive brick. All I really want to do is be able to install google play store and apps, and change the background and/or lockscreen wallpaper... Thanks,..
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welli have rooted my kindle hd about 25 times now seem, to have no problem with that and added the play store. I used the KFFirstAide Tutorial works like a champ as far as as background and lock screen thats beyound my minimal knowledge but i believe you will need to add a custom rom t for that and i am not brave enough yet to try that im sure one of the really smart hackers could answer that. I have been able to get individual apps to load but i didnt have any luck with the install google aps part of that tuturial but the rest works fine. Good Luck

Yeah I prefer custom ROMs any day over Amazon's os. The fireflash method is the easiest as it doesn't involve any command line at all. Though it seems most people for get to check off the box next to downgrade bootloader because the warning text telling you that you need to makes it hard to notice the check box... This results in a pita to fix because we have to get into fastboot. I think I heard its even worse on 8.9 inch models when this happens because sometimes the bootloader won't show up as a fastboot service briefly and since fastboot cables don't work on 8.9 models they were screwed. But I don't tend to worry about these kinda things.
As for the wallpaper, the fix in my signature should do it, its a little buggy. Sometimes it causes peoples status bar to disappear, not sure why, assuming the dalvik cache and cache need to be cleared in such a case.
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[Q] Kindle Fire with 6.3 Help with Rooting Please

Hi,
I am a total noob. I don't even know the proper expressions for this whole thing.
So this is my case:
I am outside the US and bought the Kindle Fire with a 6.3 firmware, couple of days ago.
Being curious about what it all can do, created a fake account with a test credit card as I read somewhere in the net.
Then downloaded the KFU 0.9.5 and rooted the device, everything went according to the plan, so I thought.
Then I discovered I had to use something called Market Opener to install other apps. But this Market Opener never worked.
So I found out that I had to change permissions. But this cannot happen as I get that message that adb services can not run in production builds etc. whatever that may mean.
So I downloaded Android SDK, followed the instructions installed it but I still cannot get into the root and change folder permissions. Sometimes it recognizes the device, sometimes not and when it does it tells me the same thing as above.
Then I would need some .apk to do the thing on the device but I cannot install those as I don't have the Market Opener or the Google Play and I cannot get those if I don't have superuser permissions to change things in Folders.
Basically I have been spending the last 3 days in searching the net for answers but to no avail.
So, can someone help me please? What I need to do is being able to install some apps including Market Opener / Google Play and being able to watch Amazon VOD. Is this possible?
Please bear in mind that I have no clue of the specific language, i.e. I don't know what flash is and how to do it nor I know how to do a backup and restore or how to reset everything in the original state.
SO if some of you have the patience to help, please advice me with some noob language so that I can understand.
Thanks in advance for the help that will come
Are you looking to put a custom rom on it or just root? If you're looking to keep Amazon services, you can put MoDaCo's rom on it, which is just like your kindle out of the box with a few extra bells and whistles. There are alot of guides floating around on how to get ADB working. There's an excellent beginners guide in the General section that I highly advise checking out.
Noob terms: if you want to keep the Amazon experience, I reccomend MoDaCo. Look for it in the development fourms.
brainchow said:
Are you looking to put a custom rom on it or just root? If you're looking to keep Amazon services, you can put MoDaCo's rom on it, which is just like your kindle out of the box with a few extra bells and whistles. There are alot of guides floating around on how to get ADB working. There's an excellent beginners guide in the General section that I highly advise checking out.
Noob terms: if you want to keep the Amazon experience, I reccomend MoDaCo. Look for it in the development fourms.
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Thanks for ur answer.
I have read a lot of guides out there but I seem not to be able to get the ADB working as I always get the message I gave in the original post plus the fact that sometimes it recognizes the device and sometimes not.
I have read the beginners guide which was excellent but without the ADB working there is little I can do I suppose.
As I wrote, I want to play with the device to see what it is able to do and want to use the Amazon VOD if possible. I.e. I would like to be able to use Google Play to get apps on will and still keep the Amazon services. Would that be possible with the MoDaCo staff?
Ok. I downloaded the MoDaCo staff.
Must I reset the kindle to the factory settings before I install that? If yes, how?
And how do I flash it?
Make sure you are in fact rooted.
You seem like you know enough about adb to try the following commands.
adb shell
ls /system/xbin
Look for a file called "su" in the list
Then...
ls /system/app
Look for a file called "Superuser.apk"
A lack of either of these means you're not rooted and may be the source of your problems
If you are trying to change system file permissions through adb...
adb root
adb remount
adb shell chmod blah /blah/blah/yadayada
Just don't literally type "blah /blah/blah/yadayada"
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a factory reset won't really help you because you're basically replacing the operating system. pretty sure all amazon services are working with modaco. to install it, look around for a guide on how to install something called firefirefire (FFF) and TWRP. pretty sure that can all be done with kfu in a couple clicks. then copy the modaco zip onto your kindle, go into the wipe menu and clear out system, cache, dalvik cache, and data (factory reset), then go into install and choose the modaco zip. reboot and you should be set.
soupmagnet said:
Make sure you are in fact rooted.
You seem like you know enough about adb to try the following commands.
adb shell
ls /system/xbin
Look for a file called "su" in the list
Then...
ls /system/app
Look for a file called "Superuser.apk"
A lack of either of these means you're not rooted and may be the source of your problems
If you are trying to change system file permissions through adb...
adb root
adb remount
adb shell chmod blah /blah/blah/yadayada
Just don't literally type "blah /blah/blah/yadayada"
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Thank you for your answer.
I would gladly follow your advice but the adb does not find my device. I don't know whether this is normal and if I must reboot my PC.
The kfu also gives me an offline status...
brainchow said:
a factory reset won't really help you because you're basically replacing the operating system. pretty sure all amazon services are working with modaco. to install it, look around for a guide on how to install something called firefirefire (FFF) and TWRP. pretty sure that can all be done with kfu in a couple clicks. then copy the modaco zip onto your kindle, go into the wipe menu and clear out system, cache, dalvik cache, and data (factory reset), then go into install and choose the modaco zip. reboot and you should be set.
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Thanks again for the fast answer. I am impressed!
Doesn't the FFF and the TWRP get installed automatically with the kfu?
its most likely your computer. a reboot might help. if not, how did you install the drivers? are you using a mac or pc? try installing the drivers that came bundled with KFU.
if you're using a PC, go into device manager and see if something about android ADB pops up. if not, it's your drivers.
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GreekCY said:
Thanks again for the fast answer. I am impressed!
Doesn't the FFF and the TWRP get installed automatically with the kfu?
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haha, no problem .
if FFF was installed, you should see a picture of fire in a caution sign or an android logo over the kindle fire logo when you boot it up. if all you see is kindle fire, then you don't have fff. im pretty sure you need fff to get into twrp. if fff is installed, you should be able to hop into fastboot and install twrp if it's not installed yet.
brainchow said:
its most likely your computer. a reboot might help. if not, how did you install the drivers? are you using a mac or pc? try installing the drivers that came bundled with KFU.
if you're using a PC, go into device manager and see if something about android ADB pops up. if not, it's your drivers.
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I am using a PC ( a netbook, don't laugh, I'm on vacation!!)
I installed the drivers using the install_bat from the kfu.
In device manager I see Android Phone and underneath Android Composite ADB Interface...
interesting. check my previous post and see if you have FFF installed. adb should be working fine if device manager can find it. if you can, run adb devices into cmd and see if it picks up your kindle. not sure if the stock rom has a development switch in the settings.. if there's an option to enable usb debugging, make sure that is on. if not, just try moving usb ports and running adb devices.
If adb has trouble recognizing your device, it means it's a driver issue. Either Windows, KFU or a combination of the two causes the drivers to fail for some reason.
Uninstall/delete your current drivers in device manager (may require reboot)
Turn your Kindle off
Reinstall drivers
Turn your Kindle on
Retry adb commands
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interesting. check my previous post and see if you have FFF installed. adb should be working fine if device manager can find it. if you can, run adb devices into cmd and see if it picks up your kindle. not sure if the stock rom has a development switch in the settings.. if there's an option to enable usb debugging, make sure that is on. if not, just try moving usb ports and running adb devices.
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I have FFF as I see the fire in a caution sign (yellow triangle thing right?)
ADB still doesn't pick my kindle after a PC restart.
No usb debugging available in the stock rom.
I will uninstall and reinstall the drivers from device manager.
Thanks again for your prompt help. I am oblidged!
GreekCY said:
I have FFF as I see the fire in a caution sign (yellow triangle thing right?)
ADB still doesn't pick my kindle after a PC restart.
No usb debugging available in the stock rom.
I will uninstall and reinstall the drivers from device manager.
Thanks again for your prompt help. I am oblidged!
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that's fantastic... if you have FFF, try pressing the power button a couple times as it turns on and see if you can get into recovery. you shouldn't need adb now. if you can get into recovery, just wipe and flash the new rom. if you don't, you can use fastboot to install it.
brainchow said:
that's fantastic... if you have FFF, try pressing the power button a couple times as it turns on and see if you can get into recovery. you shouldn't need adb now. if you can get into recovery, just wipe and flash the new rom. if you don't, you can use fastboot to install it.
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Ok...I reinstalled the drivers
now ADB gets the kindle
I do adb shell
then ls / system /xbin
no such file or directrory
the same goes with the
ls / system / app
But if I give su I get
su
#
Now what?
And in which directory should I transfer the MoDaCo Rom?
GreekCY said:
Ok...I reinstalled the drivers
now ADB gets the kindle
I do adb shell
then ls / system /xbin
no such file or directrory
the same goes with the
ls / system / app
But if I give su I get
su
#
Now what?
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SU (substitute user) in shell is different from the su binary
Make sure you are typing "L"s, not "i"s then /system/xbin
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SU (substitute user) in shell is different from the su binary
Make sure you are typing "L"s, not "i"s then /system/xbin
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I really do type "L"...still ls/system/xbin: not found
modaco can go anywhere in the kindle.. just copy it somewhere. then press the power button a couple times when FFF comes up and see if you can get into twrp.
brainchow said:
modaco can go anywhere in the kindle.. just copy it somewhere. then press the power button a couple times when FFF comes up and see if you can get into twrp.
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Guys? I just installed ModaCo and it seems it works fine. Google Play seems to work and all my data are still there (I mean the books I uploaded). If this is right then.... THANKS TO ALL OF YOU SO MUCH!!!!
Drinks are on me! Now I go to sleep! Will keep you informed!!!
Thanks again!!!!
GreekCY said:
I really do type "L"...still ls/system/xbin: not found
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Space between ls and /system/xbin and no other spaces
It IS there, your Kindle wouldn't work otherwise
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I really do type "L"...still ls/system/xbin: not found
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if you want to use adb, should be ls /system/xbin. make sure you put the space after the ls. i would still recommend flashing modaco nevertheless... that shouldn't need adb. just maybe fastboot if your recovery isnt installed.
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GreekCY said:
Guys? I just installed ModaCo and it seems it works fine. Google Play seems to work and all my data are still there (I mean the books I uploaded). If this is right then.... THANKS TO ALL OF YOU SO MUCH!!!!
Drinks are on me! Now I go to sleep! Will keep you informed!!!
Thanks again!!!!
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no problem... enjoy
i would still recommend wiping data and the two caches to ensure that it's bug free. but if everything works fine, so be it.
have fun

[Q] demo unit unsuccessful

hey guys. I have a demo unit.
Now before anything else, I should say that I looked at all three other threads on demo units, and that didn't help.
I looked at ThePooch's alternate method, and it didn't work.
In KFU, it gives the output of what is in the picture.
and in Soupkit, it says "permission denied" when trying to install either FFF or TWRP (I can't remember which, but if this is important, I will find out).
Can someone shed some info on what to do?
More pics are available to those who ask.
jma9454 said:
hey guys. I have a demo unit.
Now before anything else, I should say that I looked at all three other threads on demo units, and that didn't help.
I looked at ThePooch's alternate method, and it didn't work.
In KFU, it gives the output of what is in the picture.
and in Soupkit, it says "permission denied" when trying to install either FFF or TWRP (I can't remember which, but if this is important, I will find out).
Can someone shed some info on what to do?
More pics are available to those who ask.
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Use SoupKit to change the bootmode to fastboot, then install TWRP. See if that helps.
soupmagnet said:
Use SoupKit to change the bootmode to fastboot, then install TWRP. See if that helps.
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This could be the VMWare problem that you were mentioning in the other thread. upon reboot, VMWare says something to the effect that it could not connect to the kindle because it is in use by another program. I will try USB-Ubuntu in a few hours, but I think it didn't work last night, if i remember correctly.
I have witnessed one demo unit that was completely unrootable even with the use of a factory cable. So at the end it was only good for parts and the motherboard unusable.
soupmagnet said:
Use SoupKit to change the bootmode to fastboot, then install TWRP. See if that helps.
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when trying to switch bootmodes, Ubuntu just reboots the kindle. It isn't able to get into fastboot. If I could figure out how to take a screeshot of this I would, but I don't know how.
Anyways, I forgoed that, and tried to just do the TWRP installation and this is what I got:
Verifying MD5 checksum...
openrecovery-twrp-2.2.2.1-blaze.img: OK
Checksum matched.
Installing openrecovery-twrp-2.2.2.1-blaze:
Please wait...
1122 KB/s (4972544 bytes in 4.324s)
/dev/block/mmcblk0p5: cannot open for write: Permission denied
Team Win Recovery Project has been installed.
Do you wish to reboot into recovery now?
-- any ideas?
That`s pretty much what I experienced with the demo unit that would not root, it simply would not enter fastboot no matter which approach I took. I can take a look for you but I feel it`s pretty much a moot point if it wont enter fastboot. Power the device off, open a terminal
Code:
fastboot -i 0x1949 getvar product
hit enter, when it says waiting for device, plug the kindle in. if it does not enter fastboot and return product: kindle you are dead in the water.
jma9454 said:
This could be the VMWare problem that you were mentioning in the other thread. upon reboot, VMWare says something to the effect that it could not connect to the kindle because it is in use by another program. I will try USB-Ubuntu in a few hours, but I think it didn't work last night, if i remember correctly.
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I've really gotta start reading the names on these posts
jma9454 said:
when trying to switch bootmodes, Ubuntu just reboots the kindle. It isn't able to get into fastboot. If I could figure out how to take a screeshot of this I would, but I don't know how.
Anyways, I forgoed that, and tried to just do the TWRP installation and this is what I got:
Verifying MD5 checksum...
openrecovery-twrp-2.2.2.1-blaze.img: OK
Checksum matched.
Installing openrecovery-twrp-2.2.2.1-blaze:
Please wait...
1122 KB/s (4972544 bytes in 4.324s)
/dev/block/mmcblk0p5: cannot open for write: Permission denied
Team Win Recovery Project has been installed.
Do you wish to reboot into recovery now?
-- any ideas?
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That's the tricky thing about ADB and shell scripts. I won't go into too much detail, but part of that has to do with how ADB handles the exit status. Typically in Linux, an error results in an exit status of 2 (sometimes 1 depending on the type of error). ADB tends to have errors come out with an exit status of 0, which is why it said TWRP had been installed, when in all actuality it hadn't. The reason TWRP wasn't installed is because you need to either have root privileges, or be in fastboot, hence my previous instructions to boot into fastboot first.
In my opinion, your best bet would be to forgo the VM, forget about the dilapidated WinXP computer and figure out a way to boot your Win7 computer into Ubuntu from a USB stick. You are dealing with way too many variables to effectively determine exactly where things are going wrong.
I 'fixed' two demo KF's, messed up a lot on the first (lucky I didn't brick it).... On the second, I used a fast boot cable and installed TWRP, had a JB ROM on it in 15 minutes.
Try this.... Send TWRP to it using the command line, when it says 'waiting on device', open another window and get it to reboot in fastboot mode. On the first KF I found the utility would only put it in fast boot for a few seconds, but it was long enough to write TWRP if you did it this way.
Not sure why some won't work at all, maybe Amazon got smart on the demo units.
Larry
Sent from my Kindle Fire that thinks it's a Nexus 7
soupmagnet said:
I've really got to start reading the names on these posts
That's the tricky thing about ADB and shell scripts. I won't go into too much detail, but part of that has to do with how ADB handles the exit status. Typically in Linux, an error results in an exit status of 2 (sometimes 1 depending on the type of error). ADB tends to have errors come out with an exit status of 0, which is why it said TWRP had been installed, when in all actuality it hadn't. The reason TWRP wasn't installed is because you need to either have root privileges, or be in fastboot, hence my previous instructions to boot into fastboot first.
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The above statement took place from USB boot, not VMware. Also, like I said, I attempted to set it into fastboot and it just booted regularly. I tried several times with different cables and ports with no success.
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I will stick with my original idea no fastboot = no fun. You cant push FBmode manually because installation from unknown sources is disabled by default on a large percentage if not all demo units. Regardless if the device doesn`t enter fastboot not much you can do. Taking advantage of the small window of fastboot at boot is risky if the write time isn`t long enough to get it sent and written but it could be your best bet. IMO I would not attempt this with the bootloader only recovery no harm no fowl.

[Q] Trouble Sending Fastboot Commands

Hey All!
I had a nice post written up, but XDA decided that it didn't like me and signed me out while I was writing so it's gone now... in any case....
My problem is this: I have set up my linux machine to do adb/fastboot and I'm fairly certain that there's nothing wrong with it on that front. I have no problem with adb, I use shell and then change the bootmode to 4002 and then quickly send a fastboot command to attempt to catch it before it loads FFF. I have FFFv.1.4a which I believe is still the newest version but I want to flash a newer version of TWRP (currently on 2.1.1). I tried using the flashable zip on HashCode's CM11 thread, but it doesn't seem to be making any change (if there's a special way to flash a recovery via recovery I would appreciate any advice) but at this point I'm stuck because I don't remember needing the factory cable to get to the point that I'm at but I don't know of any other way to enable fastboot mode. Is there a way that I can do this without the factory cable? I have one at home, but not with me at school
Thanks in advance,
Sparkplug
In twrp hit reboot then hit boot loader, or use and adb shell or mobile terminal and run "su -c 'reboot bootloader'", those are some of the alternate ways to enter fastboot.
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stunts513 said:
In twrp hit reboot then hit boot loader, or use and adb shell or mobile terminal and run "su -c 'reboot bootloader'", those are some of the alternate ways to enter fastboot.
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It appears that even though I'm running MoDaCo, I'm no longer rooted. Very odd.... Perhaps that has something to do with my weird situation. I'll try rooting and report back!
stunts513 said:
In twrp hit reboot then hit boot loader, or use and adb shell or mobile terminal and run "su -c 'reboot bootloader'", those are some of the alternate ways to enter fastboot.
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I should have been more clear. I have no trouble getting to FFF and having it stay there as though it is waiting for commands, but my computer just continues to say <waiting for device>
Does that mean that I'm doing something wrong or do I just need to use the factory cable and that's the beginning and the end of it?
I'm mainly from the 2nd gen kindles and was a little bored so I ventured into the 1st gen forums... But if you are saying that its going into fastboot mode, but you PC can't issue commands then I would guess it's a driver problem, last I checked my drivers in my signature also work with 1st gen kindles. I thought fastboot had its own screen outside of FFF, but if it doesn't then check your device manager for a device with a triangle next to it, I'm guessing it will say otter, like I said though 1st gen kindles aren't my forte but they are similar in certain aspects.
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stunts513 said:
I'm mainly from the 2nd gen kindles and was a little bored so I ventured into the 1st gen forums... But if you are saying that its going into fastboot mode, but you PC can't issue commands then I would guess it's a driver problem, last I checked my drivers in my signature also work with 1st gen kindles. I thought fastboot had its own screen outside of FFF, but if it doesn't then check your device manager for a device with a triangle next to it, I'm guessing it will say otter, like I said though 1st gen kindles aren't my forte but they are similar in certain aspects.
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I think that it is supposed to have a separate screen but I wound up doing what I forgot existed because I'm so used to doing everything manually; using ROM Installer by JRummy to flash the image after I had rerooted. I appreciate the help either way!

[HELP] Bricked kindle

Hey guys, so my story:
I have a Kindle fire hd 7
I tried to install cyanogenmod on it, i bricked it. When i turn on the kindle, appears the logo and restarting, again and again and again....
I bought fastboot cable, works well, appears the Fastboot text on kindle, when i plug in the usb to laptop.
Downloaded Android SDK, installed the adb driver. U see in the picture, works well.
When i write adb devices, shows nothing device.
And when i write adb kill-server, write nothing.
If i write adb start-server.
Check attachments.
What should i do?
Adb commands don't work with fastboot mode, you need to run fastboot commands. Try "fastboot -i 0x1949 getvar product" and it should report back something if it works. BTW this is the wrong section, I only mention this because I have been seeing a lot of misplaced threads in here lately.
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stunts513 said:
Adb commands don't work with fastboot mode, you need to run fastboot commands. Try "fastboot -i 0x1949 getvar product" and it should report back something if it works. BTW this is the wrong section, I only mention this because I have been seeing a lot of misplaced threads in here lately.
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Thanks for the reply.
I attached the pic.
OK good its working fine then, restore the device with kindle fire first aid or srt and it should boot into amazon os. From there you can start the 2nd bootloader procedure again.
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Thanks for the reply!
I downloaded the first aide. When i choose the Display the fastboot status.
In the next step i see that: the system can not find the path specified
I'm not one to use kffa since I just do all the stuff it does manually so my knowledge of it is fairly limited, but did you follow its instructions, only thing I could guess at is I think the instructions mention setting up its paths. I'm guessing it couldn't find the fastboot binary so it displayed that but I'm not sure.
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i don't know what to do :/ But i read now, i not follow'd the steps i hope it will be the problem, i not made to desktop the icon, run as administrator, etc etc... if yes, facepalm...
When i start to restore my kindle, just waiting at daemon progress, and nothing happen, i checked the task manager and i see the adb.exe.
Why? why i need to wait more?
That's probably be cause you answered a question wrong, i know that it asks a question when you goto restore it, something like "is it in fastboot mode" or "would you like to put it in fastboot mode", but since it is already in fastboot mode there is no need to tell it to because adb commands don't work with fastboot.
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i know, but when i try to restore my kindle with first aid, that stops in daemon process and nothing happen.
Check the attached pics.
Kill the adb process then, if the script doesn't check for error codes it should just continue to the flashing process.
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I did, i got the first message on the 1. pic.
after that i got second picture, and the window closes :/
byAPEX said:
I did, i got the first message on the 1. pic.
after that i got second picture, and the window closes :/
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well that's just great... try it again, md5sum if you didn't know is basically a way of verifying a files integrity, to make sure it is exactly like the original, if we didn't do these kinda checks and flashed a bad image like for instance the bootloader it would hard brick. Anyways it means it just had a bad download. It could have been a random packet drop, maybe something to do with admin rights, or perhaps the file was down on the site it was hosted on, you will just have to try again and see if you can get it to work. I don't have a copy of kffa handy or i'd check the url it downloads form for you.
Okay thank you

Reverting the Fire Phone back to stock

If you are like me you are constantly fiddling and hacking with your phone. I’m also cheap so when I came across an Amazon Fire Phone from my local AT&T store for $150 I had to jump. After all I’m an Amazon Prime customer, so with the year of Prime it made the phone about $50. Anyways, I have been lurking on the Fire Phone XDA forum for a bit and have been using GGOW’s CM11 build since it came out. Every now and then, however, I want to go back to stock. After figuring it all out, I’ve kind of gotten it down to a pretty quick process and thought I would right a quick post on how to take your Fire Phone back to stock.
Ok so first off you have to prep your computer. You will need several things. First off you will need the Android Debug Bridge installed on your computer, also known as ADB. Instead of downloading the entire Android SDK to get ADB, you can follow the instructions on Lifehacker to install ADB pretty quickly. You will also need the OS files for your Fire Phone. You can download them from Amazon. For right now you need to make sure you download the correct file for whether your phone is unlocked or not. I believe the 4.6.6 update unifies the two, but for now it’s better to be safe.
Once you have installed ADB and have the .BIN file from Amazon, it is time to work. You need to make sure your phone is turned off and plugged in to your computer via USB. You will need to turn your phone on by holding down the power button and the volume up button and continue to hold them until you see the “Fire System Recovery” menu. You should see several options, you will need to select the “apply update from ADB” selection. Now with your phone plugged into your computer you need to go to a terminal/command prompt window. You will type
Code:
add sideload <filename>
where you replace <filename> with the path to your .BIN file. For instance on my computer (which runs OSX) I would type:
Code:
adb sideload ~/Downloads/update-kindle-32.4.6.5_user_465000520.bin
Now your update will begin and once it is done all you have to do is restart the phone.
Links:
http://lifehacker.com/the-easiest-way-to-install-androids-adb-and-fastboot-to-1586992378
http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201607550
th3rmite said:
If you are like me you are constantly fiddling and hacking with your phone. I’m also cheap so when I came across an Amazon Fire Phone from my local AT&T store for $150 I had to jump. After all I’m an Amazon Prime customer, so with the year of Prime it made the phone about $50. Anyways, I have been lurking on the Fire Phone XDA forum for a bit and have been using GGOW’s CM11 build since it came out. Every now and then, however, I want to go back to stock. After figuring it all out, I’ve kind of gotten it down to a pretty quick process and thought I would right a quick post on how to take your Fire Phone back to stock.
Ok so first off you have to prep your computer. You will need several things. First off you will need the Android Debug Bridge installed on your computer, also known as ADB. Instead of downloading the entire Android SDK to get ADB, you can follow the instructions on Lifehacker to install ADB pretty quickly. You will also need the OS files for your Fire Phone. You can download them from Amazon. For right now you need to make sure you download the correct file for whether your phone is unlocked or not. I believe the 4.6.6 update unifies the two, but for now it’s better to be safe.
Once you have installed ADB and have the .BIN file from Amazon, it is time to work. You need to make sure your phone is turned off and plugged in to your computer via USB. You will need to turn your phone on by holding down the power button and the volume up button and continue to hold them until you see the “Fire System Recovery” menu. You should see several options, you will need to select the “apply update from ADB” selection. Now with your phone plugged into your computer you need to go to a terminal/command prompt window. You will type
Code:
add sideload <filename>
where you replace <filename> with the path to your .BIN file. For instance on my computer (which runs OSX) I would type:
Code:
adb sideload ~/Downloads/update-kindle-32.4.6.5_user_465000520.bin
Now your update will begin and once it is done all you have to do is restart the phone.
Links:
http://lifehacker.com/the-easiest-way-to-install-androids-adb-and-fastboot-to-1586992378
http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201607550
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When I boot to recovery and adb sideload there is no adb device when I type adb devices.
Windows 7 64bit.
Cool I found easy solution...I downloaded this program and runned it when phone was in sideload mode, it installed drivers and voila
http://adbdriver.com/downloads/
everything is still installed and camera still doesnt work
did I miss a step or something? lol. all my apps including nova launcher are still installed and my camera still doesn't work, but it looks like 4.6.6 is installed
ianedward said:
did I miss a step or something? lol. all my apps including nova launcher are still installed and my camera still doesn't work, but it looks like 4.6.6 is installed
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Since it is official update it won't perform factory reset...
ianedward said:
did I miss a step or something? lol. all my apps including nova launcher are still installed and my camera still doesn't work, but it looks like 4.6.6 is installed
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you need to wipe the device after flashing the new rom
C:\Program Files\Minimal ADB and Fastboot>adb sideload update-kindle-35.4.6.6_u
er_466000820.bin
loading: 'update-kindle-35.4.6.6_user_466000820.bin'
* cannot read 'update-kindle-35.4.6.6_user_466000820.bin' *
---------- Post added at 09:15 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:25 AM ----------
C:\Program Files\Minimal ADB and Fastboot>adb sideload update-kindle-juniper-35.
4.6.3_user_463001420.bin
loading: 'update-kindle-juniper-35.4.6.3_user_463001420.bin'
* cannot read 'update-kindle-juniper-35.4.6.3_user_463001420.bin' *
C:\Program Files\Minimal ADB and Fastboot>adb sideload update.bin
loading: 'update.bin'
* cannot read 'update.bin' *
---------- Post added at 09:16 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:15 AM ----------
i download many files but all BIN files fails to sideload
aamszia said:
C:\Program Files\Minimal ADB and Fastboot>adb sideload update-kindle-35.4.6.6_u
er_466000820.bin
loading: 'update-kindle-35.4.6.6_user_466000820.bin'
* cannot read 'update-kindle-35.4.6.6_user_466000820.bin' *
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You should be able to manually update your phone to Fire OS 4.6.6 by following the steps at this link: Update Your Fire Phone Software.
jack9955 said:
You should be able to manually update your phone to Fire OS 4.6.6 by following the steps at this link: Update Your Fire Phone Software.
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Fire phone stucked on recovery .. only option i have is by sideload . .. and sideload is not working for me ..
i have downloaded 5 firmwares .. but same error in all files ..
.....
aamszia said:
Fire phone stucked on recovery [...]
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Please stick to asking questions for one problem in one thread at a time, thank you.
I replied in the other thread (bricked fire phone / sideloading by ADB), since it's more related to your questions.
aamszia said:
Fire phone stucked on recovery .. only option i have is by sideload . .. and sideload is not working for me ..
i have downloaded 5 firmwares .. but same error in all files ..
.....
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If you mean you are stuck in Safestrap recovery, then follow @ggow post to flash Fire OS. The links you will need for the flashable images are here and here.
If you are not stuck in Safestrap recovery and your phone is still under warranty, you may want to contact Amazon for a replacement phone.
jack9955 said:
If you mean you are stuck in Safestrap recovery, then follow @ggow post to flash Fire OS. The links you will need for the flashable images are here and here.
If you are not stuck in Safestrap recovery and your phone is still under warranty, you may want to contact Amazon for a replacement phone.
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i am stuck on Stock Recovery ...
Is there anyway to boot in to safestrap recovery and not the stock recovery. I have a back up on safestrap boot stuck on amazon screen and I can omly get im to stock recovery.
th3rmite said:
If you are like me you are constantly fiddling and hacking with your phone. I’m also cheap so when I came across an Amazon Fire Phone from my local AT&T store for $150 I had to jump. After all I’m an Amazon Prime customer, so with the year of Prime it made the phone about $50. Anyways, I have been lurking on the Fire Phone XDA forum for a bit and have been using GGOW’s CM11 build since it came out. Every now and then, however, I want to go back to stock. After figuring it all out, I’ve kind of gotten it down to a pretty quick process and thought I would right a quick post on how to take your Fire Phone back to stock.
Ok so first off you have to prep your computer. You will need several things. First off you will need the Android Debug Bridge installed on your computer, also known as ADB. Instead of downloading the entire Android SDK to get ADB, you can follow the instructions on Lifehacker to install ADB pretty quickly. You will also need the OS files for your Fire Phone. You can download them from Amazon. For right now you need to make sure you download the correct file for whether your phone is unlocked or not. I believe the 4.6.6 update unifies the two, but for now it’s better to be safe.
Once you have installed ADB and have the .BIN file from Amazon, it is time to work. You need to make sure your phone is turned off and plugged in to your computer via USB. You will need to turn your phone on by holding down the power button and the volume up button and continue to hold them until you see the “Fire System Recovery” menu. You should see several options, you will need to select the “apply update from ADB” selection. Now with your phone plugged into your computer you need to go to a terminal/command prompt window. You will type
Code:
add sideload <filename>
where you replace <filename> with the path to your .BIN file. For instance on my computer (which runs OSX) I would type:
Code:
adb sideload ~/Downloads/update-kindle-32.4.6.5_user_465000520.bin
Now your update will begin and once it is done all you have to do is restart the phone.
Links:
http://lifehacker.com/the-easiest-way-to-install-androids-adb-and-fastboot-to-1586992378
http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201607550
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Please help me when i type adb sideload "filname.bin" , It gives me an error cannot read "filname.bin" ??
Please tell me how could i fix this ??
Hussain_97 said:
Please help me when i type adb sideload "filname.bin" , It gives me an error cannot read "filname.bin" ??
Please tell me how could i fix this ??
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Did you have any luck reviving your phone?
why not just factory reset using the official recovery? this seems like an awful lot of extra work :|
i am stuck on Stock Recovery elso with my phone .
i test sideload tool give me his msg on CMD windows after type add sideload commend
C:\tools>adb sideload c:/tools/rom.bin
opening 'c:/tools/rom.bin'...
connecting...
* daemon not running. starting it now at tcp:5037 *
* daemon started successfully *
falling back to older sideload method...
terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::bad_alloc'
what(): std::bad_alloc
This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way.
Please contact the application's support team for more information.
@amr1406
try to find Android SDK Platform-tools v 25.0.3

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