I'm assuming that the zoom bar is just an extension of the resistive touch screen beyond the visible screen, so what are the chances someone will make a program/hack that will let you use it for other functions, like a dpad and a mouse?
TD2 users already have it sort of working as a scroll wheel.
I've been watching the M900 on Pocketnow, and while I'm not swayed, the potential of the navigation functions of the biosensor do wow me. It'd be a welcome addition I think. I'm new to xda-dev, but whenever I've come across the name/link, it's always with effusive praise and admiration. I figure if anyone will, it will be someone here.
Bump for this one!!
As soon as I saw the zoom bar on the TD2 and TP2 and the limited functionality of usage only in messaging, web browsers and pictures, it just screamed hack hack hack
I was also thinking gestures like the Palm Pre...
ooooh... I'm intrigued! I'd like to see what some developers can put together for this. That would be a sweet feature to hack.
evojulz said:
As soon as I saw the zoom bar on the TD2 and TP2 and the limited functionality of usage only in messaging, web browsers and pictures, it just screamed hack hack hack
I was also thinking gestures like the Palm Pre...
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Agreed. The zoom bar seemed like a good idea when I first read about it, given the multitouch zooming was a no go with the resistive screen. But then in the reviews, it just seemed so under-utilized.
I'd love to have a configuration utility that let you use it in different ways in different applications, kind of like some screen rotating apps let you set up rotation differently for different apps.
Or like the Jog Dial on the hermes. (only wished the TP2 had that, and it would have been perfect. One handed control of the device...). But it will have to be pretty precise, and it isn't yet.
If it can register touch pressure (tapping) I would like 2 see 4 sectors (up down left right)
quarintus said:
Or like the Jog Dial on the hermes. (only wished the TP2 had that, and it would have been perfect. One handed control of the device...). But it will have to be pretty precise, and it isn't yet.
If it can register touch pressure (tapping) I would like 2 see 4 sectors (up down left right)
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D2 Zoombar as buttons request asks for 3 buttons. Hopefully someone will do more.
Would LOVE to see 3 or 4 buttons on the zoom bar!!
(And maybe sliding button 1 to the right or button 4 to the left still means scrolling)
Bright.Light said:
Would LOVE to see 3 or 4 buttons on the zoom bar!!
(And maybe sliding button 1 to the right or button 4 to the left still means scrolling)
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The main screen can tell the difference between a press and a flick, so I imagine the zoom bar could have assigned buttons and still scroll.
Hi All
For my TP2, i'd really like to have Zoom Bar that zooms ....everything!!
I would like to just zoom the screen (any screen) to a larger size. I did kinda think (or at least hope) that it was what it was going to do anyway, not just zooming pictures, browser etc.
I would like the simple (??) funtion of being able to zoom any app, any screen, anything - to be able to read stuff maybe a little more easier.
I do use glasses for reading only and it is a real drag to have to get them out to read a text clearly, or see whose calling or just to get a better look in daylight etc.
A zoom 'anything' or 'any screen' would be really awesome and a supremely useful utilisation of something that is already there. Then you couild just drag the screen around to get to what you want to see better (yes, just like a picture, so basically i guess, the current screen becomes like a picture).
The other ideas of buttons, d pads and so on all sound great too, but this would probably benefit so many people get better use out of their devices.
I wonder if it can be done...????
Cheers and happy TP2ing.
Jabberoo
jabberoo said:
I would like to just zoom the screen (any screen) to a larger size. I did kinda think (or at least hope) that it was what it was going to do anyway, not just zooming pictures, browser etc.
I would like the simple (??) funtion of being able to zoom any app, any screen, anything - to be able to read stuff maybe a little more easier.
I do use glasses for reading only and it is a real drag to have to get them out to read a text clearly, or see whose calling or just to get a better look in daylight etc.
A zoom 'anything' or 'any screen' would be really awesome and a supremely useful utilisation of something that is already there. Then you couild just drag the screen around to get to what you want to see better (yes, just like a picture, so basically i guess, the current screen becomes like a picture).
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Probably better than just magnifying the screen, for readability in text heavy apps at least, would be setting font sizes to the zoom bar--zoom up, Font Sizes get larger, zoom down, they get smaller. I think that might actually be enabled in some text apps already, but I'm not sure. The touchpad on my Acer Aspire One does this in some word processors.
For things like Caller ID, a screen magnifier would be needed. I'm guessing you'd need a resident program to be able to do this anywhere and everywhere.
Thx fortunz
All true, but wouldn't the simple 'magnify the whole screen' thing be a really (really) good thing to have - and logical too. Just an extension of the way it works for images. Just seems like something that it should do.
I did notice on the HTC Manila 2.5 demo video from Germany, in the Settings area, under 'Other', there was a setting for 'HTC Magnify'.
Uncertain of any further details, but it could be just what i am talking about, maybe!
Cheers to all
Jabberoo
jabberoo said:
Thx fortunz
All true, but wouldn't the simple 'magnify the whole screen' thing be a really (really) good thing to have - and logical too.
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I don't disagree at all.
zoom as scroll and on manila start screen not only inside
I just wish the zoom ball zommed in on pictures (going towards center of picture) rather than how it works in opera (the upper left corner)
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Anybody anything?
i would be interested to know if this is possible too.
I would luv the zoom bar to wash my car and mow the lawns for me... any chance?
....LOL....
Yeah, the zoom bar is really under-utilized. I often forget it's there and go to screen -> larger text to increase my fonts... Guess it's because it only works in a few apps. Without realizing, I've gone to settings -> screens before I realize I have a zoom bar...
Would love to see some gurus here hack this to a mini d-pad, or at least and up/down arrow. Currently, I have the vol up/down to do this using AEB.
i agree with all of these .. we need a genius programmer to make some kind of super aeb where you could have different button profiles and set a shortcut to profiles on the homescreen .. my perfect setup would be to have zoom be able to switch open applications and somehow map the back conference mute thing to play/pause in music player .. or have zoom button be able to switch songs for you (like with screen off/lock on) and hold for running applications list ... then have it all skinned pretty like some translucent palm pre thing .... lol .. just dreaming..
games
they can also utilize in racing games like as steering wheel instead of touching the screen
Hi
I noticed that the direction of trackball movement is opposite to that of the screen flicks when moving across the 7 home screens. One has to do exactly the opposite when using the trackball to that using finger flicks on the touch screen. I wasn't sure if this was intentional or not and therefore wanted to know if anyone is aware of how to reverse the trackball direction via a setting?
Thanks
No one?
Guys
Does no one have any thoughts on this? Surely someone must have thought that this doesnt feel right?
regards
Simply, there are two intentionally different mechanics at work:
When flicking, you are moving the whole world under your view/focus, while the view/focus stays still (flicking to the left slides everything off to the left, bringing the pane to the right into view)
When using the trackball, you are moving your focus point (highlighted icon) and when this moves beyond your view, your view follows. Moving the focus to the left of the pane causes the view to have to follow and bring the left pane into view. It's like looking at an object beyond your current field of view in real life, you must turn your head to bring it into view.
This probably doesn't belong in this forum though
biosehnsucht, many thanks for your response. I understand the need for it to work in this way. It was just that I was confused with the intent of such an action and wanted to know if we could change 'any setting' if at all, to reverse it.
hi. hope someone can help me please.
i am working on a theme port and im almost complete except... the unlock image is not correctly aligned wwith the slider on the left side of the screen.
i can visibly see that the unlock image is closer to the left screen edge than the volume icon is to the right edge. both tabs are mirrored correctly. the volume icon sits perfectly over the dimple on the right tab but the unlock is about a quarter of the width of the image out.
i am new to this. i looked through the layout keyguard xml files but didnt see anything that determines how each icon justifies to each side of the screen.
this on a gb rom theme.
can someone please point me in the right direction?
apologies for my grammar and punctuation. i wrote this ug s bluetooth remote
thank you
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Hi,
This was ages ago. I cheated and made the image bigger
I realize this will sound like sacrilege to many here, but I'm looking for an app that can be used to shrink the viewable portion of the screen.
Why?
There are certain times when I'm using the phone and don't need the full screen for the task at hand. Additionally, since the touchscreen extends so far to the edge of the device, there are times when I accidentally "press" the outer edges of the screen with the meaty portion of my thumb (i.e. holding the phone in my right hand, trying to tap something in the upper-left corner, my palm might hit the lower-right corner)
My further hope is that battery drain could be reduced while using this.
So does any app like this exist?
If not, would the creation of such an app be possible?
Is it possible to shrink what is being viewed to a smaller portion of the screen?
Is it possible to "turn off" touch functionality for certain areas (i.e. the outer edge) of the touchscreen, or is it all-or-none?
byrong said:
I realize this will sound like sacrilege to many here, but I'm looking for an app that can be used to shrink the viewable portion of the screen.
Why?
There are certain times when I'm using the phone and don't need the full screen for the task at hand. Additionally, since the touchscreen extends so far to the edge of the device, there are times when I accidentally "press" the outer edges of the screen with the meaty portion of my thumb (i.e. holding the phone in my right hand, trying to tap something in the upper-left corner, my palm might hit the lower-right corner)
My further hope is that battery drain could be reduced while using this.
So does any app like this exist?
If not, would the creation of such an app be possible?
Is it possible to shrink what is being viewed to a smaller portion of the screen?
Is it possible to "turn off" touch functionality for certain areas (i.e. the outer edge) of the touchscreen, or is it all-or-none?
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I know its possible to turn off the touch around the bezel, there is an app for it. Off top I cant remember what the name of it is, but I will check for you and get back.
EDIT: I believe this is the app I was thinking of. There may be another different one or two. I know there is one to do exactly what you are asking.. you set a screen area around the bezel to prevent accidental touches. Let me know if this app works for you.
Thanks for the heads up, WiredPirate. That thread also led me to find "Invisible Grip" and as you said, it blocks touches around the edges of the screen, and does work on my device. At some point I'll probably plunk down the $0.99 to get the Pro version, which allows setting the size of each border, etc.
I wonder if a resizing app already exists as well.
byrong said:
Thanks for the heads up, WiredPirate. That thread also led me to find "Invisible Grip" and as you said, it blocks touches around the edges of the screen, and does work on my device. At some point I'll probably plunk down the $0.99 to get the Pro version, which allows setting the size of each border, etc.
I wonder if a resizing app already exists as well.
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I dont know that a resizing app exists, I haven't seen one but that doesn't make it nonexistent. If I do stumble upon one in the future I will let you know. I know there is a resizable app for playing video, but that's much different than shrinking the screen.
I have a Galaxy Tab 3 7" with Android 5.0.2. Quite often on the bottom right hand corner of the screen, generally when in a web page, a red lined square appears. Nothing in the square, other than the underlying page, and if I leave it it shrinks the page. If I get it quick enough with the cursor and move the top line of the square upwards it turns blue and the page stays full size. My guess is that it is something to do with multiple screens, but I have not located anything to tell me how to switch it off or to use the function. Pls help, and please excuse my lack of appropriate terminology, so I hope you can understand the issue.