Develop Bugs

[Q]Galaxy S 2 Stylus

what is the best stylus that is available for accurate writing and sketching?
-Is the Samsung Note stylus works with the galaxy S2?
Thank you.

The Note's pen will not work as it is not as stylus, it's a digitizer pen that uses a special system in the screen.
To be honest, and I have more experience with capacitive styli than probably 99.9% of people on here, the S2 is too small to really give you good accuracy with any stylus that is designed for normal capacitive screens. A stylus is even pretty useless for notes and sketching on my 7-inch Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus, and even on my iPad I rely heavily on apps that get around the inherent inaccuracy of capacitive styli with apps that have great zoom or magnification options. Navigating menus etc as an extension of your finger is one thing, but sketching and note taking is something completely different.
If you do decide to get one, stay far far away from those generic brands you find on eBay etc, and far away even from styli from Belkin, Griffin etc that you normally find in electronics stores. The more expensive styli ($20-30 range US) are in a whole other class when it comes to both accuracy and durability. I would suggest a stylus that doesn't look huge next to the S2, which eliminates some of the bigger ones out there that are big to emulate permanent markers. Both the Architect Stylus and Wacom Stylus are great and small. I have both, and they're a bit more sanely sized next to the S2 than e.g. the Cosmonaut, AluPen, Maglus etc. You might however want to look at the Jot stylus first. For accuracy on a small screen, it's probably your best bet, though the disc type tip is not to everyone's taste

Thank you very much you I think i will go with the JOT PRO.

you guys really want to see this.
i know the screen of galaxy is too small when comparing to tab,but that guy is really amazing [video is a part of avdt of stylus]

Yep, it is of course possible to do on such a small screen, but you end up zooming and panning a lot. The Galaxy Note is a whole other beast with that pen it comes with, will be interesting to see what pops up on YouTube in terms of drawings made on it

question about the stylus used in the above video
Cptnodegard said:
Yep, it is of course possible to do on such a small screen, but you end up zooming and panning a lot. The Galaxy Note is a whole other beast with that pen it comes with, will be interesting to see what pops up on YouTube in terms of drawings made on it
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hello thank you inadvance for awnsering,
I ask you this question because i im curious if you know wich pen was used in the above video. and if its possible the use that pen with WACOM's drwaing tablets.
als i am currently looking to buy a second hand wacom tablet. Can you pleasse tell me what to look out for when making a secondhand purchase. (maybe the pen is broke of skratches on the screen ect.

verbaltech said:
Hello thank you inadvance for awnsering,
I ask you this question because i im curious if you know wich pen was used in the above video. and if its possible the use that pen with WACOM's drwaing tablets.
als i am currently looking to buy a second hand wacom tablet. Can you pleasse tell me what to look out for when making a secondhand purchase. (maybe the pen is broke of skratches on the screen ect.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's a Just Mobile AluPen. Won't work with drawing tablets, completely different technology

Had DAGi Stylus P101 model lying around and tried it since it's winter... have to say it works just fine swiping, scrolling and everything else on my SGS2.

does the galaxy note stylus work with the s2?

Ixdankd said:
does the galaxy note stylus work with the s2?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OP asked the same question....

Ixdankd said:
does the galaxy note stylus work with the s2?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Why don't you try it and see if it works... just go to nearby store and have a blast And where would you get a Note stylus anyways...

Fevves said:
And where would you get a Note stylus anyways...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not that they would work, but they are sold separately. Replacements for Notes, obviously

I ordered a cheap $1 Stylus off ebay some time ago, still waiting for it to arrive. While it may not be as accurate as the higher class ones, I don't really need it that bad to begin with (I've come to accept that taking notes on my SGS2 isn't a viable option).

C-pen samsung

I just tried the samsung pen and it is not as good as expected. Its not crisp and quick. Writing with my finger is better. So the pen goes back to the maker.
It may have to do with the screen protector but I doubt it.
sent with SGS3

vasp3690 said:
It may have to do with the screen protector but I doubt it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Removing my screen protector helped a bit but I'm still not impressed either.

How did you expect it to work? It's not smart like the s-pen on the note. All it is meant to do is replace a finger.
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2

Lennyuk said:
How did you expect it to work? It's not smart like the s-pen on the note. All it is meant to do is replace a finger.
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
True. I didn't expect it to be better than s-note, but I didn't also expect to be worse than my finger!!
sent with SGS3

vasp3690 said:
True. I didn't expect it to be better than s-note, but I didn't also expect to be worse than my finger!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My thoughts exactly!

I'm using one of those cheap stylus pens often bundled with cases and I found that it's better than my finger. Don't see the need for a c - pen know I know it's not an improvement
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2

Alex Charles said:
I'm using one of those cheap stylus pens often bundled with cases and I found that it's better than my finger. Don't see the need for a c - pen know I know it's not an improvement
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
do you remember which one was that?
i thought id find the c-pen and memo usefull if i could write in a similar fashion as when taking notes on a paper. (well as close as it can get)

This is just Samsung cashing in on the popularity of S-Pen and charging 40 times the price of some capacitive pens with no better results.

You could tell by all of the pictures that the CPen is a gimmick. I was very disappointed when they didn't replicate the Note's SPen.
Tapped

CreekDirt said:
You could tell by all of the pictures that the CPen is a gimmick. I was very disappointed when they didn't replicate the Note's SPen.
Tapped
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, it is has a 3mm tip according to the specs. This is much smaller than a capacitive stylus.

I don't understand why they would change what already works. Does it have a button like the Note stylus?
Tapped

No. No buttons on it
sent with SGS3

C pen a big failure
The C-pen is a complete failure, its really bad, i expected it to be better than galaxy note as there is a lotta hype created for samsung galaxy s3. I was completely taken aback with its sad precision and smoothness.The way Samsung is going i thought they must have definitely improved the feel of thw cpen but it was not. this is a set back.

CreekDirt said:
I don't understand why they would change what already works. Does it have a button like the Note stylus?
Tapped
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The Note is marketed to a specific segment, completely different from the Galaxy S line of phones. The Note uses a Wacom digitizer for the stylus that is much more precise, whereas the S3 uses a traditional capacitive pen because it isn't marketed to have the same kind of stylus functionality as the Note (and the Wacom digitizer does add a certain amount cost) - otherwise they'd include the stylus with the S3 the same way it's included with the Note.
Actually, the C-Pen is more than a regular capacitive stylus since it apparently doesn't work with other capacitive screens for some reason, but the principle is still the same. It's like wondering why your cell phone is missing the nice 10 inch screen from a tablet.

creon100 said:
The Note is marketed to a specific segment, completely different from the Galaxy S line of phones. The Note uses a Wacom digitizer for the stylus that is much more precise, whereas the S3 uses a traditional capacitive pen because it isn't marketed to have the same kind of stylus functionality as the Note (and the Wacom digitizer does add a certain amount cost) - otherwise they'd include the stylus with the S3 the same way it's included with the Note.
Actually, the C-Pen is more than a regular capacitive stylus since it apparently doesn't work with other capacitive screens for some reason, but the principle is still the same. It's like wondering why your cell phone is missing the nice 10 inch screen from a tablet.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It is a step backwards. Sure the Note was a niche market, but they didn't skimp on the stylus for it. SMemo and SNote can't be the same with the CPen. IMO they should've stuck with the design even if it is an optional accessory. It adds more functionality.
Tapped

I just don't like the implication through omission of details Samsung are making that this is like the S Pen, I mean I just think they want to trick people to believing this can do the same job as S Pen because obviously it's got a similar name and they making no effort to explain it.

CreekDirt said:
It is a step backwards. Sure the Note was a niche market, but they didn't skimp on the stylus for it. SMemo and SNote can't be the same with the CPen. IMO they should've stuck with the design even if it is an optional accessory. It adds more functionality.
Tapped
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Adding the Wacom digitizer adds cost to the phone, so the phone would have cost more with it included. It makes sense to not include it when this is marketed to those wanting a regular phone, whereas those that are looking for specific stylus functionality can go to the Note.

creon100 said:
Adding the Wacom digitizer adds cost to the phone, so the phone would have cost more with it included. It makes sense to not include it when this is marketed to those wanting a regular phone, whereas those that are looking for specific stylus functionality can go to the Note.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I understand why they didn't offer the pen with the phone and why the Note would have one. Why they didn't make an SPen that is compatible is what I am wondering. Cost isn't an issue when sold as an accessory.
Sent From The Third Galaxy

CreekDirt said:
I understand why they didn't offer the pen with the phone and why the Note would have one. Why they didn't make an SPen that is compatible is what I am wondering. Cost isn't an issue when sold as an accessory.
Sent From The Third Galaxy
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I can see why they'd sell it as an accessory but I would hope it actually worked properly. Once the word is out that its crap, noone will get it.
sent with SGS3

I tried this C-pen as well and it's a PoS.
Ironically, I've just taken delivery of a charging stand that comes with a free pen (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0080R6MW0/ref=oh_details_o03_s01_i00) and that one works better than the C-pen. (And it's an ink pen too!)
Couldn't make it up.

Galaxy Note 10.1 S Pen Holder Kit ET-S110EBEGXAR

Hi all,
I stumbled across this the other day;
http://m.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab-accessories/ET-S110EBEGXAR
The pic seems to be of the smaller n7000 version of the pen holder and seems unclear that it comes with both the holder and active stylus.
I would really like a larger pen. Does anyone have any additional info?
swyped from my Galaxy Note 10.1 with Tapatalk

arjag said:
Hi all,
I stumbled across this the other day;
http://m.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab-accessories/ET-S110EBEGXAR
The pic seems to be of the smaller n7000 version of the pen holder and seems unclear that it comes with both the holder and active stylus.
I would really like a larger pen. Does anyone have any additional info?
swyped from my Galaxy Note 10.1 with Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Holy god, $60 for a pen holder?
Sent from my GT-N8013 using Tapatalk 2

arjag said:
Hi all,
I stumbled across this the other day;
http://m.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab-accessories/ET-S110EBEGXAR
The pic seems to be of the smaller n7000 version of the pen holder and seems unclear that it comes with both the holder and active stylus.
I would really like a larger pen. Does anyone have any additional info?
swyped from my Galaxy Note 10.1 with Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have this one and would not recommend it. It is the original one they made when they first released the phone version of the Note. Although the pen makes a big difference to using the phones small S-pen, there is a button on the side of the holder that gets pressed unless you hold it a particular way and causes your writing flow to stop.
The way it works is that you place the small S-pen inside this holder which aligns itself with the button and then you just twist the holder into place. It does come with a spare S-pen, the one made for the original Note.
If you want a full sized pen, you should go for any Wacom pen enabled pens that also have the eraser on the end, the eraser works well with S-note and other apps that support the eraser function. It may also be a good idea to order different tips and depending on your preference, use the one that suits your usage patterns.

Do you have a link for one you recommend?

tonyz3 said:
Do you have a link for one you recommend?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can have a read through arjag's other thread to get recommendations, I have the one for the Lenovo x61t which works well however I have not yet tried other tips yet which I will do, the original ones,I tend to find are not as smooth as the one fitted on the new S-pen of the Note 10.1.
Link below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1837743

Thanks for the comments everyone.
I was really hoping that Samsung had actually released a pen holder kit that fitted and came with a n8000 replacement stylus.
As mentioned I my other thread, I am too disappointed in the performance of the Lenovo pen to use it.
swyped from my Galaxy Note 10.1 with Tapatalk

arjag said:
Hi all,
I stumbled across this the other day;
http://m.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab-accessories/ET-S110EBEGXAR
The pic seems to be of the smaller n7000 version of the pen holder and seems unclear that it comes with both the holder and active stylus.
I would really like a larger pen. Does anyone have any additional info?
swyped from my Galaxy Note 10.1 with Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you (or anyone) is also using that Note 10.1 as a phone, this Samsung S-pen with bluetooth headset may be of interest to you :good:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/15/samsung-bt-hm5100-s-pen-hands-on/

[email protected] said:
If you (or anyone) is also using that Note 10.1 as a phone, this Samsung S-pen with bluetooth headset may be of interest to you :good:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/15/samsung-bt-hm5100-s-pen-hands-on/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Um, how would you write when you are on a call?
How about just using a BT headset as a BT headset and the pen as a pen?
This seems like a gimmick to me with few practical uses.

Hi,
I agree that the bt pen seems to be a gimmick too. After using a dual mic (dsp) headset there is no going back. I am very happy with my Plantronics Voyager Pro.
It really does seem there is no such thing as a "Galaxy Note 10.1" S Pen holder kit and Samsung are just trying to get rid of un sold ones.
I think this is a bit rude of Samsung!
Does anyone know where to get the propper replacement S Pen for the N80xx?
Edit: Scratch that, through samsung's site of course http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab-accessories/ETC-S1G2BEGXAR

Cool spen trick! Tap while hovering.

So if you want to tap while hovering. Get the s pen close to the screen and put your finger under the s pen tip and press the tip in. I just found out that the screen isn't the one recognizing the taps. The s pen has a sensor that tells the phone that it is touching the screen. Maybe many of you knew this but I just found out so wanted to share!
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using xda app-developers app

UrbanLagoon said:
So if you want to tap while hovering. Get the s pen close to the screen and put your finger under the s pen tip and press the tip in. I just found out that the screen isn't the one recognizing the taps. The s pen has a sensor that tells the phone that it is touching the screen. Maybe many of you knew this but I just found out so wanted to share!
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Neat! Even though you would have to practice to be able to do it well, since it is so tiny.
They should have added an extra button on the pen to do that action.

Ya I really wish they did. I been trying to find some kind of method to tap while hovering for a longggg time

I wish clicking the button on the S-Pen could function as a tap so I could browse like this...

UCLAKoolman said:
I wish clicking the button on the S-Pen could function as a tap so I could browse like this...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That would be pretty cool.. It's probably just a matter of time here at XDA.
Actually I might get an extra pen & try to take this on. If the phone can register a click while hovering using your trick (which I tried and it definitely does), it should theoretically be possible to remap the hard-button to tap into the same trigger that the phone recognizes when the pen's tip is pressed. It's gonna be a ***** getting this pen apart but at least the button is close to the tip :good:.
If anyone knows where to get a note 2 pen for less than $50 let me know..
EDIT: Just discovered that if you hold your finger over the tip of the pen (keeping the tip depressed) you can scroll/tap/etc. when you're within an inch or two of the screen.. Intersting

zoso28 said:
That would be pretty cool.. It's probably just a matter of time here at XDA.
Actually I might get an extra pen & try to take this on. If the phone can register a click while hovering using your trick (which I tried and it definitely does), it should theoretically be possible to remap the hard-button to tap into the same trigger that the phone recognizes when the pen's tip is pressed. It's gonna be a ***** getting this pen apart but at least the button is close to the tip :good:.
If anyone knows where to get a note 2 pen for less than $50 let me know..
EDIT: Just discovered that if you hold your finger over the tip of the pen (keeping the tip depressed) you can scroll/tap/etc. when you're within an inch or two of the screen.. Intersting
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That would be amazing. If you go on Samsung site, they have s-pens for $30 and there's a coupon that gives you 50% off if you register your note 2 on samsung website.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using xda app-developers app

Just take a look around for any pen that works with a bamboo tablet digitizer thing (those writing pads for computers) from my understanding, as long as it works with that, then it'll work with the note 2
Sent from my Galaxy Note 2 (SGH-i317)

FireBird_89 said:
Just take a look around for any pen that works with a bamboo tablet digitizer thing (those writing pads for computers) from my understanding, as long as it works with that, then it'll work with the note 2
Sent from my Galaxy Note 2 (SGH-i317)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No so. Those use Wacom or N-Trig digitizers. Does not work with Samsung technology. Believe me, that is the first thing I tried with my Bamboo pen as soon as I got my device.

meatlocker said:
No so. Those use Wacom or N-Trig digitizers. Does not work with Samsung technology. Believe me, that is the first thing I tried with my Bamboo pen as soon as I got my device.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Aw man! I was going to head over to my friends place tonight to check it out.
Phones: iPhone 4 - > iPhone 5 - > Note 2
ROM: International N7105DLLX4 by miscom
Kernal: Perseus alpha30.1
A lot of bloatware removed.
Screen on time after normal charge: 7-8 hours always.

UrbanLagoon said:
So if you want to tap while hovering. Get the s pen close to the screen and put your finger under the s pen tip and press the tip in. I just found out that the screen isn't the one recognizing the taps. The s pen has a sensor that tells the phone that it is touching the screen. Maybe many of you knew this but I just found out so wanted to share!
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Or you could just Tap the pen on the phone....? Not sure what this does for us?

royalh said:
Or you could just Tap the pen on the phone....? Not sure what this does for us?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The idea that I was thinking of, as a spin-off to the OP's comment, was having a pen modified so that you could just wave over the screen to move around within the OS and just tap the button to interact. Obviously it's not a game-changer but it would be fun playing some games or even swyping without having to touch the screen.
There might even be a way to modify a glove or something that works in a manner similar to kinect.. of course you'd have to be pretty close to the screen but still might be a fun little project to play around with.. Anyway, extra pen is on it's way.. we'll see where this goes.

I think you could just remove the s-pen button cover and adjust the sensitivity pot and achieve the same thing?

Prety neat trick consideringi have the invisable shield and the spen destroys it
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk 2

meatlocker said:
No so. Those use Wacom or N-Trig digitizers. Does not work with Samsung technology. Believe me, that is the first thing I tried with my Bamboo pen as soon as I got my device.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh ok. Maybe I misunderstood what is going on in this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXSb8a_xiHA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Does appear in the comments that perhaps certain wacom pens work
Sent from my Galaxy Note 2 (SGH-i317)

UrbanLagoon said:
So if you want to tap while hovering. Get the s pen close to the screen and put your finger under the s pen tip and press the tip in. I just found out that the screen isn't the one recognizing the taps. The s pen has a sensor that tells the phone that it is touching the screen. Maybe many of you knew this but I just found out so wanted to share!
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not sure if it's been mentioned yet, but another cool spen trick that I happened upon while hovering is switching from pen to eraser by clicking the spen button.

Since it looks like we are starting a Cool S-Pen thread here it works ridiculously well in splashtop and gives you a super responsive and accurate mouse
And as for figuring out a way to click without touching the screen it would probobly be easier to swap the input events rather than physically modding the pen

mrevankyle said:
Since it looks like we are starting a Cool S-Pen thread here it works ridiculously well in splashtop and gives you a super responsive and accurate mouse
And as for figuring out a way to click without touching the screen it would probobly be easier to swap the input events rather than physically modding the pen
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah I been searching for something that could do that.
______________________________________
Phones: iPhone 4 - > iPhone 5 - > Note 2 (Always on AT&T)
ROM: International N7105XXDLL4 by miscom
Kernal: Perseus alpha30.1
A lot of bloatware removed.
Screen on time after normal charge: 7-8 hours always.

FireBird_89 said:
Oh ok. Maybe I misunderstood what is going on in this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXSb8a_xiHA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Does appear in the comments that perhaps certain wacom pens work
Sent from my Galaxy Note 2 (SGH-i317)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The pen from my think pad tablet works on my note and the spen works on the note. The laptop has a wacom digitizer in it. Anandtech says the note uses wacom.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk 2

liveify said:
The pen from my think pad tablet works on my note and the spen works on the note. The laptop has a wacom digitizer in it. Anandtech says the note uses wacom.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It is absolutely a Wacom digitizer. Dia *#0*# and there is a wacom test
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using xda premium

mrevankyle said:
Since it looks like we are starting a Cool S-Pen thread here it works ridiculously well in splashtop and gives you a super responsive and accurate mouse
And as for figuring out a way to click without touching the screen it would probobly be easier to swap the input events rather than physically modding the pen
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wow that's a much better idea than the hardware mod I was thinking of.. I'm an absolute beginner at coding & hardware comes easily to me so I don't feel too stupid for not thinking of it.
Ideally I want to try & write an app that would give you the option of switching the preset input events on the fly so I could go from normal spen use to "hover" spen mode with an IME type notification or something.. Now where to begin
Sent from my Note 2

Compatible pen for Tab S 8.4

what is the compatible pen for tab s? I tested the note s pen and its not working. I want to know if there is a same pen like S PEN that can work with my Tab S cause I dont want to use stylus. Its hard to write.

S-pen works for inductive screen only, which the tab s doesn't have. However it has very accurate capacitive digitizer. You can use any fine tip capacitive pen. For me it works better than the s-pen of the note.

I'm picking one of these up tomorrow...
http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/...sories/mobilephone-accessories/EJ-PG900CSEGWW
Will let you know if it works by the weekend.

pinsb said:
I'm picking one of these up tomorrow...
http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/...sories/mobilephone-accessories/EJ-PG900CSEGWW
Will let you know if it works by the weekend.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Does work, will post some examples after a bit of practice.
My handwriting resembles most Doctors illegible scrawl so I'm not sure if the quality is a function of my handwriting or the inaccuracy of the pen yet.
But it definitely works.