Hi everybody!
For many years I've been looking for a decent tablet with advanced stylus features to use at work. I am a researcher so I need something to take notes while I'm working and a way to read and take notes on scientific books and papers.
It seems the Gnote 10.1 2014 could fit my needs, but I'd like to ask a couple of questions before buying it.
1) Are there any actual difference between the exynos and the snapdragon versions, apart from the problems regarding Samsung not releasing exynos sources in future?
2) Is there any reason why the development of custom roms is still practically absent?
3) Is the international version regionally locked?
4) How can be compared the experience with the S-pen when using custom roms? I'm planning to use mainly of apps which are not directly related to samsung (papyrus, lecturenotes, repligo reader) so in future it could be interesting to flash a custom rom on the tablet. Will the S-Pen keep working properly?
5) Is there any reason why you would discourage me from buying it?
Thank you all guys!
jst_tsj said:
Hi everybody!
For many years I've been looking for a decent tablet with advanced stylus features to use at work. I am a researcher so I need something to take notes while I'm working and a way to read and take notes on scientific books and papers.
It seems the Gnote 10.1 2014 could fit my needs, but I'd like to ask a couple of questions before buying it.
1) Are there any actual difference between the exynos and the snapdragon versions, apart from the problems regarding Samsung not releasing exynos sources in future?
2) Is there any reason why the development of custom roms is still practically absent?
3) Is the international version regionally locked?
4) How can be compared the experience with the S-pen when using custom roms? I'm planning to use mainly of apps which are not directly related to samsung (papyrus, lecturenotes, repligo reader) so in future it could be interesting to flash a custom rom on the tablet. Will the S-Pen keep working properly?
5) Is there any reason why you would discourage me from buying it?
Thank you all guys!
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I will try to answer many questions.
1) Sure there is a difference between the exynos and snapdragon. The snapdragon (2.3) is faster than the exynos version which is 1.9. Also the snapdragon supports 4G while the exynos supports 3G. There is sometimes lag when using the tab (exynos) while there is no reported lag with the snapdragon version.
2) The development of custom roms is poor for this device, but there are some custom roms for the p-605 (4G-Snapdragon version), while there is few for the exynos version. I don`t know why!!!
3) I don`t know.
4) S-Pen is working perfectly with custom rom and/or root. I`m using many applications dedicated for the S-Pen after rooting my device (p-601/3G/exynos) like S-pen Gesture, GMD Gesture, Stylus Pen Beta,....etc.
5) You can take a look at the new devices Note 12.2 Pro, it comes with Kitkat 4.4, Magazine UX, and improved performance than the Note 2014 edition.
skyhigh73 said:
I will try to answer many questions.
1) Sure there is a difference between the exynos and snapdragon. The snapdragon (2.3) is faster than the exynos version which is 1.9. Also the snapdragon supports 4G while the exynos supports 3G. There is sometimes lag when using the tab (exynos) while there is no reported lag with the snapdragon version.
2) The development of custom roms is poor for this device, but there are some custom roms for the p-605 (4G-Snapdragon version), while there is few for the exynos version. I don`t know why!!!
3) I don`t know.
4) S-Pen is working perfectly with custom rom and/or root. I`m using many applications dedicated for the S-Pen after rooting my device (p-601/3G/exynos) like S-pen Gesture, GMD Gesture, Stylus Pen Beta,....etc.
5) You can take a look at the new devices Note 12.2 Pro, it comes with Kitkat 4.4, Magazine UX, and improved performance than the Note 2014 edition.
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Thank you very much for your answers! The note 12 would be perfect for the use I'm planning to do, but it's too expensive for me so I think I'll take this instead
What about the Knox fuse? Is there any way to avoid its damage?
Thx again!
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jst_tsj said:
Thank you very much for your answers! The note 12 would be perfect for the use I'm planning to do, but it's too expensive for me so I think I'll take this instead
What about the Knox fuse? Is there any way to avoid its damage?
Thx again!
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk
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U r welcomed.
Regarding knox and warranty void. It is still noway to avoid this. However I re-flashed my device 3 times and rooted it 3 times but finally I got only 1 bin counter, instead of 3 I don`t know why!!
skyhigh73 said:
I will try to answer many questions.
1) Sure there is a difference between the exynos and snapdragon. The snapdragon (2.3) is faster than the exynos version which is 1.9. Also the snapdragon supports 4G while the exynos supports 3G. There is sometimes lag when using the tab (exynos) while there is no reported lag with the snapdragon version.
2) The development of custom roms is poor for this device, but there are some custom roms for the p-605 (4G-Snapdragon version), while there is few for the exynos version. I don`t know why!!!
3) I don`t know.
4) S-Pen is working perfectly with custom rom and/or root. I`m using many applications dedicated for the S-Pen after rooting my device (p-601/3G/exynos) like S-pen Gesture, GMD Gesture, Stylus Pen Beta,....etc.
5) You can take a look at the new devices Note 12.2 Pro, it comes with Kitkat 4.4, Magazine UX, and improved performance than the Note 2014 edition.
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There is no difference between the exynos and snapdragon.....I used both of them and the exynos has better graphics but the snapdragon has better frame rate. .......also the exynos better in using battery while the snapdragon charges faster....
By the way.......the lag is software problem so it is on both of them
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There is no difference between the exynos and snapdragon.....I used both of them and the exynos has better graphics but the snapdragon has better frame rate. .......also the exynos better in using battery while the snapdragon charges faster....
By the way.......the lag is software problem so it is on both of them
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So you can confirm me that the tablet suffers of performance lags?
I was asking regarding the exynos vs snap because, as an earlier SGSIII user, I'm pretty aware of the development difficulties arising from the decision of Samsung to not release sources for the exynos platform. Hence, I wouldn't like to buy a tablet which won't be supported properly by the community due to commercial strategies.
jst_tsj said:
So you can confirm me that the tablet suffers of performance lags?
I was asking regarding the exynos vs snap because, as an earlier SGSIII user, I'm pretty aware of the development difficulties arising from the decision of Samsung to not release sources for the exynos platform. Hence, I wouldn't like to buy a tablet which won't be supported properly by the community due to commercial strategies.
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Yea both of them have the lag problems but with the right sittings it can run very smoothly
......about the support issues I dont know which is better but overall samsung sucks at support
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So you can confirm me that the tablet suffers of performance lags?
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That's a bit strong. You'll see random millisecond stutters in transitions and in opening and closing apps. There's an indexing service that supports S Finder that periodically refreshes itself and can take a while on devices that have a lot of PDFs and/or handwritten notes. When there's not a lot going on in the background there's little or no lag. At least on my device.
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Noob here who has decided on Samsung note 10.1 for my first tablet ... but which one? Looking for fastest performance and longevity. Does the added mobility of 4G degrade performance during WiFi operation? ... are there disadvantages other than related costs?
tx in advance!
I will advice the 4G version because it have the Snap800 like processor and have the 4G that is better and faster like 3G.
Finally, the Snap800 will have more support from dev then the 3G with the Exynos by Sammy
The trade-off will be reduced battery life most likely if traveling in weak LTE areas.
I'm leaning towards SD800, especially after what I saw in the picture
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Thank you for your replies. Looks like only the 4G version has the faster SnapDragon800. Ok that's settled.
Between32 and64, will the 64 remain faster as the memory folk
fills up or is it all the same in respect to performance?
Tx for answering my dumb questions!
g8rella said:
Thank you for your replies. Looks like only the 4G version has the faster SnapDragon800. Ok that's settled.
Between32 and64, will the 64 remain faster as the memory folk
fills up or is it all the same in respect to performance?
Tx for answering my dumb questions!
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I wouldn't say that the sd is faster just yet, there are no real benchmarks out there just yet for the new octo core 5420, based on the few cryptic leaks they seem to think that the new octo might be a tiny bit faster. Im not going to jump to any conclusions just yet, I would preffer the sd800 on my device if only for the cyanogenmod support
Will you be able to use this device as a phone? As in does it have a dialer that you can use with a regular SIM like the old one?
I'm getting the one with the Snapdragon processor in it.
Sammy promised that they will include HMP (Heterogeneous Multi Processing) in their 5xxx processors . Ie; they will make s4,note3 and note 10.1 to real octa core processors through a software upgrade (say kernel upgrade)...so guess , which will have higher performance , sd or exynos? ? ? ?
And also exynos version will have wolfson audio DAC in it , so exynos defeats sd in audio performance
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I would welcome an LTE model on Verizon except it will be limited to 16GB of storage and I just won't accept that. You need 32GB or higher internal storage for apps not medial content that is what the microsd is for.
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LuckyStrike88 said:
Will you be able to use this device as a phone? As in does it have a dialer that you can use with a regular SIM like the old one?
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I think I read that the phone version (which won't be sold by US cellular companies) is limited to 2G. I would love to hear differently.
RaptorMD said:
I would welcome an LTE model on Verizon except it will be limited to 16GB of storage and I just won't accept that. You need 32GB or higher internal storage for apps not medial content that is what the microsd is for.
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Whoa..that's completely unacceptable (I'm Verizon). Agree on 32 min. Where can I find spex on Verizon's version?
The spec sheet Mashari_F posted helps differentiate among variants but I'm still not clear.
I'll likely have to wait until later in Nov. for my own good ... see how users are feeling about SD VS. OCTA and see what Verizon puts out vs. Wifi.
Tx!
16GB should be fine, I have tons of apps and games installed on my 16GB old note 10
and still have 4-5GB left, if you are planning on installing huge games like nova 3 (I think it takes up 2.2GB) then you might want to consider the 32GB instead
if you root and have a nice size microsd handy, you really wont have to worry about it
So, if you want the best CPU, you have to buy the version with a cell radio in it? That's kinda dorky, since I can just tether to my phone. But I guess if I want the best CPU I gotta buy the 4G (that I won't use).
NaxIonz said:
So, if you want the best CPU, you have to buy the version with a cell radio in it? That's kinda dorky, since I can just tether to my phone. But I guess if I want the best CPU I gotta buy the 4G (that I won't use).
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Yes, sure.
Because Snap800 support LTE.
And Snap800 version will be better then Exynos
See the S4, the S600 have more support that Exynos Octa...
We dont know which is more powerful yet, this is the new octa core, not the old one
Wait for benchmarks from the new one to see
Joey22688 said:
We dont know which is more powerful yet, this is the new octa core, not the old one
Wait for benchmarks from the new one to see
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lol, benchmarks...
I won't see bench, because they don't have a lot of sense.
Snap800 will be supportated because devs know the architecture and they always have the source code...
Isn't the same for the Exynos...
It's like S3 for the Cyano
So, ATM, Snap > Exynos
Guich said:
lol, benchmarks...
I won't see bench, because they don't have a lot of sense.
Snap800 will be supportated because devs know the architecture and they always have the source code...
Isn't the same for the Exynos...
It's like S3 for the Cyano
So, ATM, Snap > Exynos
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Samsung released the kernel source for the Exynos version a few days ago (sammobile.com/2013/09/20/samsung-releases-kernel-source-for-galaxy-note-10-1-2014-edition). I'm not very familiar with all the lingo, so please enlighten me: Is this not (all) the source code that devs need to do their thing?
Can someone explain why someone buys an expensive note 10.1 only to install cyanogenmod and lose all the exclusive features? (Spen, multiwindow, ir blaster, and some other things)
Just buy a nexus 10 or wait for the new one if you are going to do that
The_Maverick said:
Samsung released the kernel source for the Exynos version a few days ago (sammobile.com/2013/09/20/samsung-releases-kernel-source-for-galaxy-note-10-1-2014-edition). I'm not very familiar with all the lingo, so please enlighten me: Is this not (all) the source code that devs need to do their thing?
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The big problem there isn't the source code, this was an older problem, but the structure of the partition and the core.
If a dev will build a kernel, the source are here.
But, trust me, snap have a source code more easy, it's quadcore, and we know all about this.
Joey22688 said:
Can someone explain why someone buys an expensive note 10.1 only to install cyanogenmod and lose all the exclusive features? (Spen, multiwindow, ir blaster, and some other things)
Just buy a nexus 10 or wait for the new one if you are going to do that
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No sense.
There isn't any sense...
In fact, i will buy it only for the feature of the tab, not for the Cyano rom
Maybe, someone, will work on a tweaked rom Touchwiz based.
Hello everyone. I have been reading forums on this website for a long time and I must say there is tons of useful information over here. So thought I should become a member too.
Recently I Bought Note 10.1 2014 Edition LTE version. I was expecting it to be much better that its really is. The display is nice but there is lag on this Tablet. It stutters during web browsing. I have a note 3 also which is much smoother although it has 1.9 Ghz Exynos processor as compared to 2.3 Ghz on this tablet. Anyways I have read on net that may be its because it has double the amount of pixels on display as compared to note 3 therefore it has some amount of lag.
Ok my main question to you guys who already own this tablet. In reflection of light I can see the Digitizer Matrix all along the display. its a bit annoying looks like faint sctraches on the screen. I have used many android devices but never experienced anything like it before. while looking as it directly with no light reflection it is not visible at all but even in faintest light reflection is starts to become visible even with the display on
So is it normal or a defect?
Help would be highly appreciated.
drag80 said:
Hello everyone. I have been reading forums on this website for a long time and I must say there is tons of useful information over here. So thought I should become a member too.
Recently I Bought Note 10.1 2014 Edition LTE version. I was expecting it to be much better that its really is. The display is nice but there is lag on this Tablet. It stutters during web browsing. I have a note 3 also which is much smoother although it has 1.9 Ghz Exynos processor as compared to 2.3 Ghz on this tablet. Anyways I have read on net that may be its because it has double the amount of pixels on display as compared to note 3 therefore it has some amount of lag.
Ok my main question to you guys who already own this tablet. In reflection of light I can see the Digitizer Matrix all along the display. its a bit annoying looks like faint sctraches on the screen. I have used many android devices but never experienced anything like it before. while looking as it directly with no light reflection it is not visible at all but even in faintest light reflection is starts to become visible even with the display on
So is it normal or a defect?
Help would be highly appreciated.
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Have you used a device with an inductive display before? It puts out an electromagnetic signal which detects the presence of the pen. That's why the display looks different. I've been using mine since November and have never noticed the grid in everyday use. As for lag it pretty much went away with the 4.4 update. If you're already on 4.4 and the display grid is going to bother you return the device while you still can.
BarryH_GEG said:
Have you used a device with an inductive display before? It puts out an electromagnetic signal which detects the presence of the pen. That's why the display looks different. I've been using mine since November and have never noticed the grid in everyday use. As for lag it pretty much went away with the 4.4 update. If you're already on 4.4 and the display grid is going to bother you return the device while you still can.
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The visible matrix does not bother me too much when in use. The display is still beautiful.
I am still on 4.3 coz 4.4 is not available in my region yet. Lets hope once the update is made available in my region, lag will reduce.
The gaming performance however, is better than on note 3.
drag80 said:
The visible matrix does not bother me too much when in use. The display is still beautiful.
I am still on 4.3 coz 4.4 is not available in my region yet. Lets hope once the update is made available in my region, lag will reduce.
The gaming performance however, is better than on note 3.
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4.4 is rolling out painfully slow. What region are you in and what model number N10.1-14 do you have? Chances are you can safely download and install a compatible region's ROM without changing the status of your device or tripping KNOX.
BarryH_GEG said:
4.4 is rolling out painfully slow. What region are you in and what model number N10.1-14 do you have? Chances are you can safely download and install a compatible region's ROM without changing the status of your device or tripping KNOX.
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I have LTE version. It was brought by a friend from Singapore. Its made by Samsung Vietnam and right now in Pakistan.
drag80 said:
I have LTE version. It was brought by a friend from Singapore. Its made by Samsung Vietnam and right now in Pakistan.
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You can download the HK 4.4 ROM here.
http://samsung-updates.com/details/30043/Galaxy_Note_10.1_2014_LTE/SM-P605/TGY/P605ZSUCNF1.html
Many people on the forum are using ROMs from other (but compatible) regions because 4.4 hasn't been rolled out to their specific region yet. I'm using a Panamanian ROM on a SM-P601 from Trinidad. They work fine. There can be some oddity (I still have lock screen widgets which I shouldn't and don't have Daynote when I should) but everything else works as designed.
If you've never installed a non-standard ROM on your device do a Google search on "Odin." It'll link you to s/w you need to download and provide you with instructions. I can answer any questions you might have. There's little risk and it doesn't affect your device's status (it stays "official") or KNOX. For me, 4.4 was like getting a new tablet.
Yes I am sure 4.4 solves many issues. I will try the above instructions today. thanks a lot and best regards.
BarryH_GEG said:
You can download the HK 4.4 ROM here.
http://samsung-updates.com/details/30043/Galaxy_Note_10.1_2014_LTE/SM-P605/TGY/P605ZSUCNF1.html
Many people on the forum are using ROMs from other (but compatible) regions because 4.4 hasn't been rolled out to their specific region yet. I'm using a Panamanian ROM on a SM-P601 from Trinidad. They work fine. There can be some oddity (I still have lock screen widgets which I shouldn't and don't have Daynote when I should) but everything else works as designed.
If you've never installed a non-standard ROM on your device do a Google search on "Odin." It'll link you to s/w you need to download and provide you with instructions. I can answer any questions you might have. There's little risk and it doesn't affect your device's status (it stays "official") or KNOX. For me, 4.4 was like getting a new tablet.
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Hi due to political instability in my country, my office is off nowadays and I finally got some time to update my software.
I installed P605XXUCNF2 version which is from NEE region. At first I was not sure but then the lag and stutter in my tablet forced me to go for it.
Downloaded from this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10-2014/general/sm-p605-p605xxucnf2-firmware-t2810048
Like you said Barry its literally like having a new tablet. The lag is gone and overall it has become really smooth.
Thank you for your advice without which I would never have found the solution.
God bless you bro.
drag80 said:
Hello everyone. I have been reading forums on this website for a long time and I must say there is tons of useful information over here. So thought I should become a member too.
Recently I Bought Note 10.1 2014 Edition LTE version. I was expecting it to be much better that its really is. The display is nice but there is lag on this Tablet. It stutters during web browsing. I have a note 3 also which is much smoother although it has 1.9 Ghz Exynos processor as compared to 2.3 Ghz on this tablet. Anyways I have read on net that may be its because it has double the amount of pixels on display as compared to note 3 therefore it has some amount of lag.
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So is it normal or a defect?
Help would be highly appreciated.
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i just thought i'd pitch in, theres a setting in chrome you can change to eliminate that lag - it just doesnt allocate enough ram for the resolution its rendered at by default.
Wow another thread about lag..I have had this tab since Dec 2013 ..Never had lag, no issues ever... I have a life, so I don't sit and stare at the tablet all day and pick at it. It's Android . And Sammy it will have some issues...There are quick easy fixes for the mysterious lag people are complaining about. This is the best tab out for this year..The Tab S is the same tab minus the pen..it only has a better screen ..but that could be debated as well.
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Mussels84 said:
i just thought i'd pitch in, theres a setting in chrome you can change to eliminate that lag - it just doesnt allocate enough ram for the resolution its rendered at by default.
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Thanks for sharing will try right away and report back
GalaxyNotesTx said:
Wow another thread about lag..I have had this tab since Dec 2013 ..Never had lag, no issues ever... I have a life, so I don't sit and stare at the tablet all day and pick at it. It's Android . And Sammy it will have some issues...There are quick easy fixes for the mysterious lag people are complaining about. This is the best tab out for this year..The Tab S is the same tab minus the pen..it only has a better screen ..but that could be debated as well.
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The amoled display will considerably increase battery life and will have better contrast. Its a huge improvement.
Other specs of tab s is same as note 10.1 as far as I know.
So I've been giving real consideration to picking up the 8.4 Tab, that screen is very nice. But like many I've been waiting on Google to announce the rumored Nexus 8 or 9. I have a Nexus 7 '12 I'm ready to replace. If I get the Tab, rooting and a custom rom is a given for me. I'm wondering how many roms support it though? The main roms I use are Cyanogenmod, Carbon, and Liquidsmooth. What roms are you guys using and what's been your experience rooting this device?
Any input would be appreciated fellas so thanks in advance.
CM11
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2848705
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JayHall2502 said:
So I've been giving real consideration to picking up the 8.4 Tab, that screen is very nice. But like many I've been waiting on Google to announce the rumored Nexus 8 or 9. I have a Nexus 7 '12 I'm ready to replace. If I get the Tab, rooting and a custom rom is a given for me. I'm wondering how many roms support it though? The main roms I use are Cyanogenmod, Carbon, and Liquidsmooth. What roms are you guys using and what's been your experience rooting this device?
Any input would be appreciated fellas so thanks in advance.
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Forget about custom roms.
It's an Exynos chipset so of course the options are limited and dev support will remain nearly zero. The last Samsung device with Exynos to experience decent dev support was the Note 2 a couple years back.
Samsung's indifference/hostility to devs makes it unlikely to change. See the International Note 3 for example.
These are the kinds of things you can't easily research before purchasing a device. I lived under the delusion that Android = infinitely hackable. Didn't know it varied per device to such an extent.
I did try CM11 and it was fairly stable (until I tried to put the governor in performance mode, lol). Sadly, the more I learn about this tablet, the less appealing it is And most of that seems to stem from Exynos. Something to watch out for henceforth, I suppose.
I think I might chill on the whole tablet front until the next Nexus tablet.
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These are the kinds of things you can't easily research before purchasing a device. I lived under the delusion that Android = infinitely hackable. Didn't know it varied per device to such an extent.
I did try CM11 and it was fairly stable (until I tried to put the governor in performance mode, lol). Sadly, the more I learn about this tablet, the less appealing it is And most of that seems to stem from Exynos. Something to watch out for henceforth, I suppose.
I think I might chill on the whole tablet front until the next Nexus tablet.
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Actually, rule of thumb if you're interested in custom roms - Avoid Samsung and just stick to the other big three.
Leonart said:
These are the kinds of things you can't easily research before purchasing a device. I lived under the delusion that Android = infinitely hackable. Didn't know it varied per device to such an extent.
I did try CM11 and it was fairly stable (until I tried to put the governor in performance mode, lol). Sadly, the more I learn about this tablet, the less appealing it is And most of that seems to stem from Exynos. Something to watch out for henceforth, I suppose.
I think I might chill on the whole tablet front until the next Nexus tablet.
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I was trying to wait on the new Nexus tablet since I had the 7 from 2012 but got impatient. Actually just got the Tab Pro 8.4 to see how it is. It's cool so far, not sure if I'll keep it yet. Thanks for your thoughts.
Be relaxed, devs are slow^H^H^H^Hbusy in buying new stuff.
moreroid said:
Be relaxed, devs are slow^H^H^H^Hbusy in buying new stuff.
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Nope. When it comes to Exynos, most of them stay FAR AWAY.
Leonart said:
These are the kinds of things you can't easily research before purchasing a device. I lived under the delusion that Android = infinitely hackable. Didn't know it varied per device to such an extent.
I did try CM11 and it was fairly stable (until I tried to put the governor in performance mode, lol). Sadly, the more I learn about this tablet, the less appealing it is And most of that seems to stem from Exynos. Something to watch out for henceforth, I suppose.
I think I might chill on the whole tablet front until the next Nexus tablet.
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After seeing this post I tried the performance governed and don't see any issues. Not that I'm asking for bug reports but still sorry you had issues.
as far as all the hating on the exynos soc, its really not any different then the other soc's out there as far as porting goes. There is a ton of source out there for the 5420 and its even been updated a couple times.
Sure hate on Companies and all that deserve it, but in this case Samsung has given plenty of support, more then even I expected and they deserve the proper credit for that.
Edit, don't mean to single out this single post, it is geared more towards the thread in general.
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Nope. When it comes to Exynos, most of them stay FAR AWAY.
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because of missing kernel support or missing gpu support?
We've already got a working CM11 for 8.4, looks like there could be 10.5 CM11 just round the corner. A number of rooted and debloated stock roms. There are devs working on AOSP and LINARO. We have a kernel for stock and CM11 and the device is only a few months old, what more do you guys expect in such a short time? The Exynos development will come, be patient. ?
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We've already got a working CM11 for 8.4, looks like there could be 10.5 CM11 just round the corner. A number of rooted and debloated stock roms. There are devs working on AOSP and LINARO. We have a kernel for stock and CM11 and the device is only a few months old, what more do you guys expect in such a short time? The Exynos development will come, be patient. ?
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If _all_ based on _open source_, only a full re-compile on a fast machine would necessary.
So, it is not open source at all?
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If _all_ based on _open source_, only a full re-compile on a fast machine would necessary.
So, it is not open source at all?
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Show me a main stream device that does not have binary blobs. Also you are making the assumption both the t700 and t800 are identical hardware wise which is not the case.
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moreroid said:
because of missing kernel support or missing gpu support?
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Neither, there is kernel and GPU support.
I haven't looked into the files etc. in the ROMs, but from looking at the physical hardware specifications they are VERY similar in terms of processor, GPU, RAM, internal storage etc. The question I have is whether they should be very easy to port from one device to the other? Are the drivers for the sAMOLED massively different from the LCD in the Tab Pro?
I may have a go flashing one of the Tab S 10.5 ROMs on to my Tab Pro 10.1 and see what happens...
Does anyone know if there is anything obvious which would prevent it from working? Other than the model ID checks obviously...
NJ72 said:
I haven't looked into the files etc. in the ROMs, but from looking at the physical hardware specifications they are VERY similar in terms of processor, GPU, RAM, internal storage etc. The question I have is whether they should be very easy to port from one device to the other? Are the drivers for the sAMOLED massively different from the LCD in the Tab Pro?
I may have a go flashing one of the Tab S 10.5 ROMs on to my Tab Pro 10.1 and see what happens...
Does anyone know if there is anything obvious which would prevent it from working? Other than the model ID checks obviously...
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I wouldn't try flashing a ROM for a different device on your Tab Pro, you could get yourself into a lot of trouble and you could end up with a Bricked tablet!!!!!
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NJ72 said:
looking at the physical hardware specifications they are VERY similar in terms of processor, GPU, RAM, internal storage etc.
Does anyone know if there is anything obvious which would prevent it from working?
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???? Look again. The Pro uses a Snapdragon 800 SoC from Qualcomm, the S an Exynos SoC from Samsung.
BTW, there is a sticky in this forum indicating that questions belong in the Q&A/Troubleshooting section, not here. The mods will move it shortly.
Apologies for putting in the wrong section.
that aside, the tab pro 10.1 comes with the exynos chipset here in the UK. The 5420 to be precise, the exact same chipset that the tab s comes with. The only differences between the tab pro 10.1 and the tab s 10.5 is the SAMOLED and the S-pen compatible touch matrix.
I know there are variants of the tab pro with snapdragon chipsets, but the 10.1 is exynos.
FYI
Having had a bit of a mess around with some of the ROMs for the SM-T800 (Galaxy Tab S Exynos) I managed to get some pleasing results. Some elements don't work, mainly the keyboard and WiFi at the moment (presumably they use different wireless chipsets). Managed to fix the Wifi but still working on some other bits and pieces.
May contact a ROM dev who works on the Tab S and see if I can produce a port of one of their ROMs. Mainly interested to see if I can port over a Lollipop ROM but thought starting with a 4.4.2 one was a good shout.
In the most light-hearted of ways - SHUN THE NON-BELIEVER!
If everything works as planned i'll set up a ROM port in the general development section of the forum. :good:
NJ72 said:
Having had a bit of a mess around with some of the ROMs for the SM-T800 (Galaxy Tab S Exynos) I managed to get some pleasing results. Some elements don't work, mainly the keyboard and WiFi at the moment (presumably they use different wireless chipsets). Managed to fix the Wifi but still working on some other bits and pieces.
May contact a ROM dev who works on the Tab S and see if I can produce a port of one of their ROMs. Mainly interested to see if I can port over a Lollipop ROM but thought starting with a 4.4.2 one was a good shout.
In the most light-hearted of ways - SHUN THE NON-BELIEVER!
If everything works as planned i'll set up a ROM port in the general development section of the forum. :good:
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Kudos to you. I have a 10.1 pro and the chipset is Exynos (I'm in UK). Interested in the port which is likely to be successful. I'm also interested in rooting it whilst keeping Knox 0x0.
Thanks
shayind4 said:
Kudos to you. I have a 10.1 pro and the chipset is Exynos (I'm in UK). Interested in the port which is likely to be successful. I'm also interested in rooting it whilst keeping Knox 0x0.
Thanks
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Will keep ars***g about as it is still uber buggy and I don't have permission from creators to distribute yet but will keep you posted.
Currently using the new 'flat UI' which looks and performs great.:highfive:
NJ72 said:
Will keep ars***g about as it is still uber buggy and I don't have permission from creators to distribute yet but will keep you posted.
Currently using the new 'flat UI' which looks and performs great.:highfive:
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Hi
Any progress with the port?
THanks
How's this looking?? Exciting to see Stock LP work , love to see this available for SMARY T320!! Great job people :
NJ72 said:
I haven't looked into the files etc. in the ROMs, but from looking at the physical hardware specifications they are VERY similar in terms of processor, GPU, RAM, internal storage etc. The question I have is whether they should be very easy to port from one device to the other? Are the drivers for the sAMOLED massively different from the LCD in the Tab Pro?
I may have a go flashing one of the Tab S 10.5 ROMs on to my Tab Pro 10.1 and see what happens...
Does anyone know if there is anything obvious which would prevent it from working? Other than the model ID checks obviously...
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Any luck here?? Looking at all the hardware and software I believe the files are identical and only differentials are ram, processor, display.
LG G3 VS985 SkyDragon LP
If I've helped you please hit the thanks!! ? ?
Apologies people, not made much headway recently as work has been manic (I'm a 25 year old IT account manager so free time is a rarity!)
I am still awaiting a response as to whether I can kang some bits from other ROMs as well so will do some chasing and see where we can get
I have been running my mash-up for a little while and there's still lots to fix before it becomes useable...
I'm glad people are interested in this, though
One thing to one of the posters, this is just a 'flat UI' style ROM based on 4.4.2/4.4.4 so is NOT a full LP ROM - that may change, but I haven't played with kernels enough yet to try and lob LP on it properly.
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Keep trying your best. We are waiting. Do let us know if we can help.
Shayind4
NJ72 said:
Apologies people, not made much headway recently as work has been manic (I'm a 25 year old IT account manager so free time is a rarity!)
I am still awaiting a response as to whether I can kang some bits from other ROMs as well so will do some chasing and see where we can get
I have been running my mash-up for a little while and there's still lots to fix before it becomes useable...
I'm glad people are interested in this, though
One thing to one of the posters, this is just a 'flat UI' style ROM based on 4.4.2/4.4.4 so is NOT a full LP ROM - that may change, but I haven't played with kernels enough yet to try and lob LP on it properly.
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Willing to so what I can. Love to see some LP action on the Tab Pro line. Especially the SM T320
guys, i was looking for a new device and came to note 4, but isee there 2 versions Snapdragon and Exynos
these benchmarks are old and since we are like nearly a year further since release in my country witch should i get of the 2
most ppl voted for the Exynos ver on this forum but i dont go read like 200+ posts,
what i want to do wit hthe device
gaming,
watching anime 10bit h264 / h265 mkv/flac
custom firmware something like archidroid witch i used on s3
help me out abit , the on paper reviews dont say everything its more about true phone power, stability, laggless, ofc speed to
as far as ive seen reviews , snapdragon is best in gpu depending stuff while Exynos does the multi process/task stuff but those revies are from 2014 dunno if anything has changed with the firmwares and so
Either one is okay. Depends on your carrier I would assume.
carries is kpn, but they are simlock free , kpn 4g with speed of 225Mbit for data, but that wasnt my question , i wanted to know witch is beter for feature , Snapdragon or Exynos both have cons and ups
snapdragon
more energy save
faster gpu
cons
slower load time eventhough it is 2.7ghz quad core
Exynos
faster multitask
faster loading aps
cons
faster battery drain
slower gpu
so i want ot make the right choice
Be careful my bro got the s6 with exynos, we rooted it and went looking for new roms but only found 2 and there isn't likely to be more because of the exynos
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This is the Sprint forum. Only one choice.
i have no clue i see 3 versions and i just picked a forum
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i have no clue i see 3 versions and i just picked a forum
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Sprint only offers the snapdragon version.
I would try the main Note 4 forum.
Cjam180 said:
Be careful my bro got the s6 with exynos, we rooted it and went looking for new roms but only found 2 and there isn't likely to be more because of the exynos
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i see, thx for the warning but s6 is difrent from note right ?, the s6 is problematic bcus the edge ?
from what i have readed most ppl on xda voted for exynos on the poll yet no customs , i realy liked the customs like archidroid, it was fast , smooth, easy to use and install/setup and i was hoping there is one for the note 4 to but for me its a kind of difficult choice , so snapdragon has more custom roms faster gpu but its slower in performance and not 64bit ready, and the exynos is faster , slower gpu and less custom roms
the note4 is a difficult choice for me atm it seems
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Sprint only offers the snapdragon version.
I would try the main Note 4 forum.
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it was not directed at this version only, im from eu and i dont know what version i will get so im asking users how and what so i dont take the wrong turn, the version here probaly would be an internantional version like the s3 i had and i dont know what version the note 4 will be that i get, also have no clue how to spot what version is in box
While I am no expert on the difference between domestic and international phones for the US, from what I understand you will want to stick with exynos. The snapdragons are specific to the networks in the US. Will and do they work internationally? Yes. However, I believe you will run into issues with data with snapdragon phones internationally. I may be wrong on this so anyone can feel free to correct me but from what I understand, a note 4 with exynos will be better suited to the carriers internationally.
This is a US carrier section so many of us are not up on this info since we fairly rarely run into this. The general section for the note 4 will have more of an international following I believe.
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it was not directed at this version only, im from eu and i dont know what version i will get so im asking users how and what so i dont take the wrong turn, the version here probaly would be an internantional version like the s3 i had and i dont know what version the note 4 will be that i get, also have no clue how to spot what version is in box
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I understand it wasn't directed at this varient alone. But you won't get many responses to a request for comparisons when almost no one has an exynos here. That's why I provided a link to the forums where there are many people from both sides available to ask.
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I understand it wasn't directed at this varient alone. But you won't get many responses to a request for comparisons when almost no one has an exynos here. That's why I provided a link to the forums where there are many people from both sides available to ask.
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are you sure? cuz the poll says otherwise, more ppl voted for exynos so i thought alot used it
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are you sure? cuz the poll says otherwise, more ppl voted for exynos so i thought alot used it
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If they do, it isn't through Sprint.
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Wesley_NL said:
guys, i was looking for a new device and came to note 4, but isee there 2 versions Snapdragon and Exynos
these benchmarks are old and since we are like nearly a year further since release in my country witch should i get of the 2
most ppl voted for the Exynos ver on this forum but i dont go read like 200+ posts,
what i want to do wit hthe device
gaming,
watching anime 10bit h264 / h265 mkv/flac
custom firmware something like archidroid witch i used on s3
help me out abit , the on paper reviews dont say everything its more about true phone power, stability, laggless, ofc speed to
as far as ive seen reviews , snapdragon is best in gpu depending stuff while Exynos does the multi process/task stuff but those revies are from 2014 dunno if anything has changed with the firmwares and so
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i know i am partial to the snapdragon versions in all cases, the snapdragons include the available hardware for the fm radios, and even if the fm radio app is not included, u can use nextradio or even the spirit fm radio app from here at xda... and the snapdragons have always been easier to root/unlock booloader, etc., if u ask me... and the snapdragons just seem cooler to me, in a vibe sort of way...