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Is it worth switching from an S3 to a note 2?

Basically I know it's a quad core but would I really see that huge of a difference to take a hit cost wise to upgrade?
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Do you want the bigger screen? That is the only reason I'd think about switching.

I just got the s3 love it but I wanna know if I'm better of waiting for the note 2. And no screen size doesn't matter to me. Basically would it be a noticeable performance difference from my s4 chip to the quad? Would I actually notice a huge speed difference in games and in day to day use?
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If you do a lot of hardcore gaming on your phone probably but for day to day use not at all.

It all depends on your personal needs. S3 for my phone and an IPad for my tablet. My current wardrobe doesn't have enough pocket room for the note 2. No way in hell I'm going to put it in my back pocket either... CRUNCH! I'd also have to use a Bluetooth, holding that whopper phone to your face would be weird. The Quad core would be nice, however I will wait for the S4 for quad core. 1. Screen size 2. Quad core 3. How deep are your pockets
Sell your S3 on XDA or Amazon and buy it out right, forget going the contract route. Good luck and god bless!

Yeah it is a huge phone and I do already have a nexus 7. So maybe I am good with my current setup. Also am I correct in assuming the mod community is better with the s3 then with the note?
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Note2 will be better for gaming because of GPU. And since it's international it will have more ROMs, devs, MODs etc.
Remember: there is always next big thing. SGS4 coming. Start saving. etc

So if you had to pick what would you go with?

The Note II's screen is not only bigger, but is much higher quality because it has the standard RGB subpixel layout as opposed to the PenTile layout on the SIII.
And the Note II's battery is a massive 3100 mAh, so it's like an SIII battery and a half.
But I've also heard that though the Exynos is faster, devs have had a hard time with it because of Samsung holding back information.
I mean it's really up to you to weigh the pros and cons. I personally wouldn't want to use a Note II as a primary phone; even with my big hands I feel it would be too much. I think the SIII is my upper limit for screen size.
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Remember: there is always next big thing. SGS4 coming. Start saving. etc
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lol If you always wait for the next big thing you'll be waiting forever.

Okay thanks everyone for the help. I to agree that even for me the note seems big. I guess I was just looking to see as a first time android buyer that I made the right choice for a first phone.

Sg3 is a great choice. Ive been contimplating new note 2 also.if it releases for at&t before my 30days up, I might return sg3 and get new note. I like the bigger screen. Plus I hsve the note 10.1 tablet. So they would go great together.
Either choice would be good.

Im getting right when its released
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Yeah it just bought my s3 and also am still in the 30 day window. What will you do if it released after you return period?

Alaris said:
Basically I know it's a quad core but would I really see that huge of a difference to take a hit cost wise to upgrade?
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short answer: no.

I bought my S3 just as a holdover for the Note II (from the Note N7000). Personally the screen on the S3 is still too small for my taste. (Not saying I think its too small, its great, I just personally like bigger).
If you don't think you'll use the S-Pen, and you don't feel the need for a bigger screen, then swapping to the Note II is silly from an S3.

Yeah the only reason I was thinking about it was for the cpu. But from what I have ever been reading the s3 appears to be able to handle everything. Just want to make sure it will hold me over for at least a year (I upgrade at least once a year).

I was mulling upgrading my S3 to the Note2, but decided to hold out another year for the Note3, since it should be a bigger feature bump, with:
1) 1080p (720p hdmi output looks a little crappy upscaled to 1080p)
2) The new "unbreakable" flexible display tech
3) The new & faster samsung flashstorage, with 32/64/128GB internal as the new standard
4) 12MP camera
5) WiDi (wireless HDMI output so you don't need MHL)
6) A 5.65" display with a commensurate 0.1" reduction in bezel. (Made this one up )

zmore said:
I was mulling upgrading my S3 to the Note2, but decided to hold out another year for the Note3, since it should be a bigger feature bump, with:
1) 1080p (720p hdmi output looks a little crappy upscaled to 1080p)
2) The new "unbreakable" flexible display tech
3) The new & faster samsung flashstorage, with 32/64/128GB internal as the new standard
4) 12MP camera
5) WiDi (wireless HDMI output so you don't need MHL)
6) A 5.65" display with a commensurate 0.1" reduction in bezel. (Made this one up )
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If its a year away for a Note 3 - where are you getting this spec list?

G-Man. said:
If its a year away for a Note 3 - where are you getting this spec list?
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My ass.
(But seriously, these are all mostly-expected features, except for #5 & #6)

zmore said:
My ass.
(But seriously, these are all mostly-expected features, except for #5 & #6)
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I just LOL'd - haha

Droid DNA : is it really a challenge for the galaxy note 2 ???

I wonder now with the upcoming release of the droid dna...is it really a match for our beloved note 2
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Nice design, but lack of features and stylus, no battery removal or external sd..not for me..
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witeboy07 said:
Nice design, but lack of features and stylus, no battery removal or external sd..not for me..
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Yea I see that im wondering why htc is going this way all of sudden with these phones...they really need to keep external memory as a option still...
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Samsung intends this to be a niche device (a phablet, if you will) while HTC has strongly insisted that the DNA be called a phone. Oh, and by launching only on Verizon, that means I won't be buying it... ever. (T-Mobile fanboy here ... not to mention I save a ton too)

achusaysblessyou said:
Samsung intends this to be a niche device (a phablet, if you will) while HTC has strongly insisted that the DNA be called a phone. Oh, and by launching only on Verizon, that means I won't be buying it... ever. (T-Mobile fanboy here ... not to mention I save a ton too)
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Lol yea I see that...verizon plans are disgustingly high :*(...I was hoping t-mobile was going to release a htc j butterfly but the note is satisfying in almost every way
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witeboy07 said:
Nice design, but lack of features and stylus, no battery removal or external sd..not for me..
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This
noted for future reference on my Note 2

it has a smaller battery than the GS3 but it has a bigger 1080p screen so yeah good luck with the battery

haldi15 said:
it has a smaller battery than the GS3 but it has a bigger 1080p screen so yeah good luck with the battery
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Hahaha! Yea I was thinking it has a higher resolution but yet the battery is weaker than that of the GS3. So either you carry a charger with you all day or have a set of battery extension because its going to drain fast during usage.
Now I wouldn't think about trading my Note 2 for the DNA one bit because both phones pretty much have the same specs. The Note 2 at 720p is already rich in screen resolution. You'll have to stare at it from about half an inch away from the screen to notice the pixels. I'm pretty sure you'll see less pixels on the DNA while staring at the screen from the same distance, but who'll want to do that?. With the Note 2 you can also record videos and take pictures at the same time like the how the HTC always advertise on their phones. Nothing new about that. Now the only down side I see on the DNA is no stylus (many people who hates holding a pencil, let alone writing their name would not care for it at all), no expansion slot (I cannot rely on cloud storage as an alternative), the battery is weak and non-removable (so unlike the Note 2 it is not meant for heavy usage), and finally it's from Verizon (the carrier whom loves to brand the **** out of their phones).
But I don't like to tell people what to get. If any phone they find that suits them, then great and good luck with their new devices. We all win. :good:
EDIT: Forgot to mention that with LTE the DNA will suffer even more on its battery.

haldi15 said:
it has a smaller battery than the GS3 but it has a bigger 1080p screen so yeah good luck with the battery
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I agtee battery will be a problem. I think I read the DNA had like 1000 less milli amp hours than our battery! Thats pretty significant
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Droid DNA is a phone - GN2 is a phablet ...
But i want both of them, the best two devices in the world until now.:silly:

DNA has everything I try to avoid in a phone...

Lol im surprised at how everybody like shot the droid dna out of clouds ...so it seemz that gn2 is still the god of phones!!! Or has HTC started losing their over all appeal because of the recent designs and bad moves they made (locked bootloaders/failure to see their batteries are basically dead paperweights/ etc)...idk what is your opinions...cuz those were tge reason I avoided the one x and grew sick of the one s
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The only thing arguably better would be the display / resolution. Other than that, Note 2 owns all the way. At this point in time, I don't really care much for 1080p. For my next phone in about a year or two, thats a different story.

a less than 16gb for screen 1080p phone, pass...

boodies said:
The only thing arguably better would be the display / resolution. Other than that, Note 2 owns all the way. At this point in time, I don't really care much for 1080p. For my next phone in about a year or two, thats a different story.
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I checked out the Note2 again tonight this time only for about 15 min when I stopped by Best Buy & immediately felt like this is such a real huge upgrade from my EVO 4G that I must have it soon. Then I started noticing the whites weren't as white as my EVO & it could be brighter (set to max) & even experienced some lag but I did not have time to do a reboot.
I am curious to see the DDNA, 1080p natural color screen with amazing cameras like the OneX & improved speaker etc but obviously annoyed with battery & sdcard situtation (not a huge fan of all the red styling either but would slap a case on it) yet I will have to check it out. I think the OneX variants are the best "smartphone" display & camera & at 5" DDNA should be impressive (always thought 5" is a great size but the N2 managed its 5.55" amazingly as well & the stylus puts it in its own class).
So do the non-white whites & brightness of the screen around sunlight on the N2 ever bother anyone?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2hPBIJrq44
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5bFRt_3U0c
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psn1819 said:
Yea I see that im wondering why htc is going this way all of sudden with these phones...they really need to keep external memory as a option still...
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I would go back to HTC if they stopped emulating the iPhone in their designs. My SGN2 is my first non-HTC phone in 7 years - They no longer offer anything I'm interested in.

SMARTPHONEPC said:
I checked out the Note2 again tonight this time only for about 15 min when I stopped by Best Buy & immediately felt like this is such a real huge upgrade from my EVO 4G that I must have it soon. Then I started noticing the whites weren't as white as my EVO & it could be brighter (set to max) & even experienced some lag but I did not have time to do a reboot.
I am curious to see the DDNA, 1080p natural color screen with amazing cameras like the OneX & improved speaker etc but obviously annoyed with battery & sdcard situtation (not a huge fan of all the red styling either but would slap a case on it) yet I will have to check it out. I think the OneX variants are the best "smartphone" display & camera & at 5" DDNA should be impressive (always thought 5" is a great size but the N2 managed its 5.55" amazingly as well & the stylus puts it in its own class).
So do the non-white whites & brightness of the screen around sunlight on the N2 ever bother anyone?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2hPBIJrq44
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5bFRt_3U0c
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I will admit that the 440ppi and handling of colors is a huge notch against the n2.. the droid however is it a dealbreaker for me...No...does it hurt people who are truly craving that 1080p display and higher color reproduction...it might...Htc decisions to do certain designs and moves on there devices seem to be pushing people away already from what it seems...as well as the fact the series of their devices theyve released is starting to flow the "Apple way"..thats just coming from me though
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Screen size is a deal breaker for me. Can't go smaller after this
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sprintuser1977 said:
Screen size is a deal breaker for me. Can't go smaller after this
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No doubt. I gave my Galaxy S III to my girlfriend. I held it this morning for the first time in a week. It feels so small and tiny now that I'm used to my Note II. Next phone I get will need to be around the size of the Note II.

Sistum Id said:
No doubt. I gave my Galaxy S III to my girlfriend. I held it this morning for the first time in a week. It feels so small and tiny now that I'm used to my Note II. Next phone I get will need to be around the size of the Note II.
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Lol when I first was deciphering if I was gonna keep the n2 my sister placed her gs3 next to it...I thought my eyes were messing with me...in comparison that phone dwarfs and can basically devour the gs3...I couldnt go back to the gs3 if I tried now
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HTC One or Samsung Galaxy S4? Anyone upgrading?

I got really disappointed when Samsung released the gs4 and it looked basically the same as the galaxy s3 just with a bigger screen and a few new bells and whistles. So I'm opting for the HTC one cause that thing is sexy all around. What about you guys?
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If you like having a device completely locked down go for HTC. Biggest reason I switched away from them
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Spastic909 said:
If you like having a device completely locked down go for HTC. Biggest reason I switched away from them
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What do you mean exactly? Cause my dad has a htc one s and it was pretty easy to root the phone and install a rom on it.
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Are you choosing a phone based on looks alone? Cause the HTC isn't even up to par with the current Euro SIII, let alone the S4 in terms of specs. I guess its about preference but personally I'm pretty intrigued by the S4 eight core processor in a frame slimmer then the SIII, not to mention the 13mp camera features, 5.0 SAmoled (yay no more pen tile) I just don't see a comparison IMO.
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boystuff said:
Are you choosing a phone based on looks alone? Cause the HTC isn't even up to par with the current Euro SIII, let alone the S4 in terms of specs. I guess its about preference but personally I'm pretty intrigued by the S4 eight core processor in a frame slimmer then the SIII, not to mention the 13mp camera features, 5.0 SAmoled (yay no more pen tile) I just don't see a comparison IMO.
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First of all, the HTC one has a qualcomm 600 processor which is that the same as the Samsung Galaxy S 4 has in USA, except that the s4 is .2ghz faster in terms of clock speed. Second of all, I'm currently on a contract with t mobile and I was talking about upgrading to the Galaxy s4 or the HTC one, so there's no way I can get the eight core s4. The galaxy s4 has a pentile display. Plus I don't really care about the megapixels or ultrapixels of the camera as long as my pics turn out good and not look like they were taken from a potato.
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adil17 said:
What do you mean exactly? Cause my dad has a htc one s and it was pretty easy to root the phone and install a rom on it.
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The source codes take sooo long to be released.
Look at the Amaze 4g and youll see what im talking about.
An awesome phone treated like crap lol.

When it comes to phones and tablets i will not use anything other than Samsung or a nexus. I just can't do it. HTC is a lot harder to root and it takes longer for development and i don't see anything else competing with Samsung.
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I'd hold out for the note 3 personally, that's what I'm doing. But then again it's a very long and very impatient wait because I don't think it'll be released until September. It's all on you though bud, there's a bunch of ill phones coming out this year.
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I had an HTC VIVID before this phone (cracked the screen), and it was a pain. Unlocking the bootloader, then flashing boot image and blah blah blah just to root and rom it. And then the development thread was WEAK (at the time ) so it was like for no point. I agree with the 2 above mentioned posts regarding source code & development. Its seriously ridiculous & sad!
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If I had to pick one of those 2 I would probably go with the HTC One, build quality is way ahead of the S4, I'm tired of plastic phones. My S2 has survived its fair share of drops without no significant damage though so I'm happy with that. Processors are nearly the same unless you're comparing the international S4 and HTC One. The One also has a nicer screen (more ppi). It seems like the biggest knock on the One is the fact that it doesn't have upgradable storage and battery but 64GB is more than enough for me and I never carry an extra battery for my S2 so that is pointless. When it comes to camera quality, the S3 with its 13MP will take better pictures when zoomed in since it has more pixels but the HTC One will blow the S4 out of the water when it comes to night pictures or anything with low light (someone correct me if I'm wrong). I was honestly disappointed with the S4, it seemed like all Samsung talked about at the news conference was all the bloatware they added onto the phone that I'm never going to use.

This is a laughable question. S4 stands head and toe over the crap HTC is throwing out nowadays.

S4 doesn't look like it will get any love from too many dev's
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adil17 said:
I got really disappointed when Samsung released the gs4 and it looked basically the same as the galaxy s3 just with a bigger screen and a few new bells and whistles. So I'm opting for the HTC one cause that thing is sexy all around. What about you guys?
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if you can get your hads in the developer edition, then go for the HTC One, but i you like big,big,big etc, go for the SG4

MacerHD said:
S4 doesn't look like it will get any love from too many dev's
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I believe that will be the international s4 with the Exnyos processor that probably wont have much development from what i have read. the North American version
still uses Qualacom, so i am thinking the development will be just as good as the S3.
As for which one i will choose, I will need to see them side by side first before I make any decisions.

MacerHD said:
S4 doesn't look like it will get any love from too many dev's
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If you are one of those people who root and flash away from Professionally built phone software in favor of barely working featureless lackluster crap produced by CM and it's near relatives there is no point worrying about having the newest phone anyway cuz you clearly are not going to use it for anything other than looking at your reflection. honestly you kids would be just as well off with a flip phone and a be-dazzeler.
I could understand the CM worship if this was a walmart prepaid phone with some lame flavor of aosp on it then CM might be a slight improvement but leaving Touchwiz for CM is a huge downgrade every time, all Tochwiz needs is some speedtweaks and a tweaked kernel.
Anyway +1 going to the S4 when It's here, might add a note 3 or even the note2 if I can get a good deal on it!

Wow makes me regret getting the Nexus 4 after what I saw in the GS4. Should have waited. But one this is having Google's latest and greatest code feels awesome. GS2 also has outstanding support and CM10.1
I really miss HTC's look and quality. But they have always been terrible battery life phones. Each one I've had except for the G2. My GS2 is still a champ and love that samsung releases the CODE that makes CM even possible.
And at the presentation I really have to reconsider no SD support and no removable battery. Just this week my old myTouch 4G I gave to my cousin, the battery can't hold charge. He got it replaced and its good as new. To me, having a removable battery just makes it easier to replace it when it does go bad.
I can kinda live with 16 gig and no SD Card, unless you are a heavy media user. But having a removable battery makes it possible to replace it. I don't mind the Samsung plastic. It is cheap and got a mini dent that I can't figure out how it happened on my GS2. I should have put a screen protector to prevent that. Still a mystery how it happened.
My LG G2X, I've never ever ever used at screen protector and its still flawless. Samsung **** is sensitive. They could at least use better plastics if they are sticking with that material.

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If I had to pick one of those 2 I would probably go with the HTC One, build quality is way ahead of the S4, I'm tired of plastic phones. My S2 has survived its fair share of drops without no significant damage though so I'm happy with that. Processors are nearly the same unless you're comparing the international S4 and HTC One. The One also has a nicer screen (more ppi). It seems like the biggest knock on the One is the fact that it doesn't have upgradable storage and battery but 64GB is more than enough for me and I never carry an extra battery for my S2 so that is pointless. When it comes to camera quality, the S3 with its 13MP will take better pictures when zoomed in since it has more pixels but the HTC One will blow the S4 out of the water when it comes to night pictures or anything with low light (someone correct me if I'm wrong). I was honestly disappointed with the S4, it seemed like all Samsung talked about at the news conference was all the bloatware they added onto the phone that I'm never going to use.
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Its mainly software on Samsung side but the HTC sense and their new features don't compare to the new temp and face tracking on the snapdragon S4 ImO get a lg optimus pro ..lg seems to be opening up to GPL
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If you even read the news... htc is yesterday's news...an exact quote "it's not in the kids club anymore" and that is why they pushed the date back for the htc one release...it's not even that it's hard to root, it's that it leaves traces for the carriers and htc to know you've rooted...
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I was waiting for the One but the battery life is poor. Going to hold off for the next Nexus. Have no interest in the S4
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This time i will go with HTC.

What are the features of this phone to persuade me to buy it?

I'm planning on getting an htc one in the next day or two but I'm still open to different phones. So what are some cool features of this phone other than the big screen?
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Well id say the customizability on the stock rom is second to none. Everything down to icons and size on the homescreen can be changed. Looking around this thing ive seen customization options ive never seen on modded roms much less stock. The multitasking with the qslide apps can come in handy here and there. Plus it supports wireless charging out of the box something thats likely impossible on the one due to the aluminum unibody. The camera is better hands down in every review ive seen and while the screen is bigger, it seems brighter and more true to life (only got to play with the one for about 20mins while I waited for a rep at att). Also battery life is amazing I get a full days use no problem. Plus my experience with phones has shown that samsung seriously lacks in build quality and duribility compared to lg. Ive said many times, u wanna see the real difference between lg and samsung take one device from each and throwem down a hallway... while htc has always been a little better, the one seems indestructible lol I spent weeks going between the sgs4, htc one, lgogpro and sony xperia z. Based on the total package and especially price lgogpro is the way to go.
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jprosek said:
Plus my experience with phones has shown that samsung seriously lacks in build quality and duribility compared to lg
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Yes, can confirm, LG is better in terms of h/w, than software updates is their wellknown weakest point

In addition: you get a 1.7 Ghz quad-core CPU, a removable battery, 32 GB of storage with an additional 64 GB available via an SD card slot.
I prefer this phone to the HTC One because of its removable battery and SD card slot.
I prefer this phone to the Galaxy S4 because of its lack of TouchWiz garbage and Samsung shovelware (yes, there is some LG shovelware in this phone, but not much).
Finally, try watching an HD video on this phone's screen. It's almost beautiful enough to make a grown man weep.

I have a one to but its too small coming from the note 2. I used my upgrade and got the g pro. With some mods and tweaks its a great device. If we get this boot loader cracked and get aosp it will be the best device around. I say get it and if you don't like it, trade it in for the one.

The screen on the g pro gets brighter than the one. I have the one and the gpro yeah the one's hardware is sexier sure but the gpro is great for a road warrior like me with that awesome battery. Each phone has its pluses. If u want something that's in between get the s4. I had it for a couple weeks. If u can get past that touchwiz crap it's pretty awesome too. The gpro is my favorite of the 3. That led built into the home button is effing sweet.
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The camera fuzz you think that'll be fixed with an update?
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The camera fuzz you think that'll be fixed with an update?
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What camera fuzz?

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The camera fuzz you think that'll be fixed with an update?
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You mean the software update that wipes the hand oil off your lens for you? I don't think we'll see any phone updates that do that any time soon.
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[Q] Just 2 steps from buying the Galaxy Note 2...

Hi,
I was about to buy the GS4 but I thought of the Note II
I'm impressed with this phablet
Just 2 questions about the note 2 to make sure it's a good choice for me.
1- There is a huge difference in hardware (CPU & GPU) between note 2 and the S4
But I saw that people don't have any lag even in latest hardcore games
Can the note 2 be good for a while or maybe in the near future it will be and old device & can't handle new games??
I mean the S4 got about 28000 vs 18000 on the note 2 on ANTUTU Bench.
I this points difference is for nothing?
2- The camera of the note 2... If I try to capture a written text on the blackboard about 7~10 meters far away from me... can I really get the a good picture?? (I mean in the college )
Or should I get the 13MP of the S4??

Hi and welcome!
1. The difference between Note 2 hardware and GS4 hardware is not so important as long as Note 2's hardware can provide enough power. And it does. Plenty. If you look to benchmarks for answers, you'll be disappointed to know that the synthetic benchmarks don't reflect real life usage, so the scores are more or less an indicator. Not to mention that the newer phones like GS4 have some tweaks in order to get higher scores in benchmarks. You can safely buy Note 2 from this point of view, it's powerful enough to play any game out there, plus it does it on a big beautiful screen and not eating all your battery while doing it.
2. The camera can take good pictures, for what you say you need, it's perfect. You may get bigger pictures from the GS4 due to it's lager sensor, but unless you shoot very small text or you need to print a banner from it, you won't see the difference.
I had to make the same choice some time ago, and I went with the Note 2. I don't regret a second for doing so, especially when my GS4-using friends keep asking for chargers constantly cause their battery won't last them through a day.

Ruwin said:
Hi and welcome!
1. The difference between Note 2 hardware and GS4 hardware is not so important as long as Note 2's hardware can provide enough power. And it does. Plenty. If you look to benchmarks for answers, you'll be disappointed to know that the synthetic benchmarks don't reflect real life usage, so the scores are more or less an indicator. Not to mention that the newer phones like GS4 have some tweaks in order to get higher scores in benchmarks. You can safely buy Note 2 from this point of view, it's powerful enough to play any game out there, plus it does it on a big beautiful screen and not eating all your battery while doing it.
2. The camera can take good pictures, for what you say you need, it's perfect. You may get bigger pictures from the GS4 due to it's lager sensor, but unless you shoot very small text or you need to print a banner from it, you won't see the difference.
I had to make the same choice some time ago, and I went with the Note 2. I don't regret a second for doing so, especially when my GS4-using friends keep asking for chargers constantly cause their battery won't last them through a day.
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Thanks, you made my day :cyclops:
But I hope that other people ensure what you say cause I get confused after someone tells me that S4 is a better choice

Well, I wrote my opinion on this matter, others may have different preferences. It all comes up to what you need - big screen + big battery vs. fullHD + newer hardware - considering that if you put my Note 2 (and I say "my Note 2" because I'm talking about rooted + custom ROM) next to a GS4, you don't see any performance difference. Any.
Oh, yeah, and the pricing difference...

I agree with ruwin. However it all depends on what you want to use it for. I personally don't care to much for TouchWiz exclusive features which are now not so exclusive. For example, OmniRom have a note 2 custom ROM with android 4.3 with working multi window and there are now plenty of apps and mods which make good use of the s-pen. That being said and considering hardware differences to be neglible what makes the note 2 'better' in my opinion is the larger screen. I couldn't go back to a smaller screen now. And if your looking for the TW features, The 4.3 upgrade should be just around the corner and there are already fully functional note 3 features being ported. Don't be scared! Get the note 2
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colsecomb said:
I agree with ruwin. However it all depends on what you want to use it for. I personally don't care to much for TouchWiz exclusive features which are now not so exclusive. For example, OmniRom have a note 2 custom ROM with android 4.3 with working multi window and there are now plenty of apps and mods which make good use of the s-pen. That being said and considering hardware differences to be neglible what makes the note 2 'better' in my opinion is the larger screen. I couldn't go back to a smaller screen now. And if your looking for the TW features, The 4.3 upgrade should be just around the corner and there are already fully functional note 3 features being ported. Don't be scared! Get the note 2
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Thanks,
waiting for other opinions

Well I've had my note 2 for a year. I was eagerly awaiting the 3 and was going to buy that.
However, my father got the s4 so I had to set it all up for him and whilst the screen is nice, its too small and the battery life is the same. For me the gimmicks it has are pointless and if I was asked to swap my 2 for the s4 I wouldn't.
I'm a big game player and the bigger screen and battery are a must for me but everyone is different.
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3vo3d said:
Well I've had my note 2 for a year. I was eagerly awaiting the 3 and was going to buy that.
However, my father got the s4 so I had to set it all up for him and whilst the screen is nice, its too small and the battery life is the same. For me the gimmicks it has are pointless and if I was asked to swap my 2 for the s4 I wouldn't.
I'm a big game player and the bigger screen and battery are a must for me but everyone is different.
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That's a good point
if it has a bigger screen + better battery life + good performance vs brighter Full HD >>> THE NOTE II WINS

The Note 2 is a better choice as it has better battery and S Pen features. Also I heard many users having problems with the S4 such as heating, etc.

Will add that if want to take pictures if blackboard notes in college, why cant you snap them after class, or have the teacher hold on for 3 seconds so you can take the photo before erasing?
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PhxDroid86 said:
Will add that if want to take pictures if blackboard notes in college, why cant you snap them after class, or have the teacher hold on for 3 seconds so you can take the photo before erasing?
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Well, some teachers don't allow us to take pictures (don't know why) so we take the photo while he is not looking
The BB also gets to be erased about 4-5 times every class, so simply I can't capture it after the class

AhmadLight said:
That's a good point
if it has a bigger screen + better battery life + good performance vs brighter Full HD >>> THE NOTE II WINS
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Yeah for me the bigger screen whilst playing is a must now. I know it seems hard to believe but I pick up my old phone and I couldn't believe how I used to play games on such a small screen.
For you I guess also price may be a factor? My dad wanted the note 2 but got a better deal on the s4.
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3vo3d said:
Yeah for me the bigger screen whilst playing is a must now. I know it seems hard to believe but I pick up my old phone and I couldn't believe how I used to play games on such a small screen.
For you I guess also price may be a factor? My dad wanted the note 2 but got a better deal on the s4.
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Well, finally I'm getting the Note 3 instead if Allah wishes :fingers-crossed:
There is a 26% discount on its price, so it's about the same price as an S4
Thanks everyone for your help
It maybe helpful for anyone who is confused about the Note 2 and the S4