Remove bloatware and ota update - Xperia Z1 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've just rooted my device (bootloader still locked) and now I'm wondering if I remove apps I don't use, will an ota update still work? I remember I had problems in the past with it (Asus transformer). After I removed some standard apps, the update function didn't work anymore. I know I can freeze apps with titanium backup but I prefer to remove them.

No one..? I'm talking about apps like Google+,hangouts, etc.

Boes40 said:
No one..? I'm talking about apps like Google+,hangouts, etc.
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Never tried it honestly... But I think it should work... I already tried extracting an ota update of Sony before and theres nothing there about checking firmware contents. Regardless though I suggest you create a backup first.

Thanks for your reply. I've got a backup so I just go ahead and see if it's works.

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[Q] Do I need to update to 3.70?

So my evo currently has software version 3.29 and this past weekend I rooted it with unrevoked3. I noticed that there is an update available (3.70), is there any reason for me to update this? I tried updating but while it was updating it crashed (I think because of the unrevoked).
And another question. I want to run new themes, etc. I used titanium back up to back up my apps and used Rom Manager to back up my system settings. Was it necessary for me to use 2 different programs to back up my phone and is there anyway to test to see if everything on my phone is backed up?
Thanks.
Ok 1. Never accept an OTA --over the air update after your rooted. It'll kill your root.
Do what i did pick a ROM from here thats based on 3.70. You'll have a new rom + all the updates.
2. No you didnt need 2 backups. Titanium has a batch button that says "Backup sytem data and user apps" thats the ONLY one you need!!!
Hey dont take it from me tho....always nand & try things for yourself!!!!
Phillysphinest1 said:
Ok 1. Never accept an OTA --over the air update after your rooted. It'll kill your root.
Do what i did pick a ROM from here thats based on 3.70. You'll have a new rom + all the updates.
2. No you didnt need 2 backups. Titanium has a batch button that says "Backup sytem data and user apps" thats the ONLY one you need!!!
Hey dont take it from me tho....always nand & try things for yourself!!!!
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I did try to OTA install but in the middle of installing the OTA program showed an error and stopped. My root is still there though.
Could you please direct me to where I can find 3.70 roms and what I need to launch them with?
I backed up using both programs any harm in this besides taking up more space on my microsd?
Thanks again.
evosq said:
I did try to OTA install but in the middle of installing the OTA program showed an error and stopped. My root is still there though.
Could you please direct me to where I can find 3.70 roms and what I need to launch them with?
I backed up using both programs any harm in this besides taking up more space on my microsd?
Thanks again.
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use mikfroyo or avalaunch or myns, all three great sense roms that are constantly updated, z3 is zippiest as of now
Go here for all the latest ROMs
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Supersonic/ROMs

link2SD Convert system app ==> user app

hi guys
i checked the link 2SD latest version that enable you to convert system app to user app , then link them to SD card !!
fantastic ! isn't it ?
but i found that converting some system app makes our rom crazy and Force close happening.
my question is , do you know which app's are convert-able and which one isn't ?!
till now , i know that converting phone and home launcher makes sooooo many force close !
can you please share your experience together ?
I tried it on the Android framework, and now my XPlay is bricked...
My guess is that the ones that would be compatible with transferring to the sd card are also the ones that are safe to remove. If you're going to test any more than that, maybe test the phone and messaging apps, but other than that, there's some real dangerous ground you'll be walking, as neverwinter found out.
lightningdude said:
My guess is that the ones that would be compatible with transferring to the sd card are also the ones that are safe to remove. If you're going to test any more than that, maybe test the phone and messaging apps, but other than that, there's some real dangerous ground you'll be walking, as neverwinter found out.
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thank you
i'm ganna try it again
there is a light , always
neverwinter said:
I tried it on the Android framework, and now my XPlay is bricked...
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bricked? if xperia play hardware is not effected in anyway, and you have CWM, unlocked bootloader its never bricked just soft bricked
I tried it on Gmail and it wouldn't do it.
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I tried it on The Amazon Kindle app and it worked. Asphalt 6 and Star Battalion it would not. Same for VZ Navigator (but I think I can uninstall it). That said I'm worried to do too much of this for the possibility of it screwing up a future OTA update.
Rogue Leader said:
I tried it on The Amazon Kindle app and it worked. Asphalt 6 and Star Battalion it would not. Same for VZ Navigator (but I think I can uninstall it). That said I'm worried to do too much of this for the possibility of it screwing up a future OTA update.
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What OTA update? You think Verizon's actually going to do anything more for this phone?
In all seriousness, though, I'm not entirely sure the Link2SD has good implementation of this method. You might try Titanium Backup to convert system to user apps, then try linking it with Link2SD. It may still not work, but it'd be worth a shot, I suppose.
Furthermore, I always delete bloatware I'm not going to use with Titantium Backup. If I need to go back to stock for an OTA, I just flash the complete stock of whatever phone I'm on. For us on the Xperia Play, we have the .ftf files. That'll prep you for an OTA just fine.
lightningdude said:
What OTA update? You think Verizon's actually going to do anything more for this phone?
In all seriousness, though, I'm not entirely sure the Link2SD has good implementation of this method. You might try Titanium Backup to convert system to user apps, then try linking it with Link2SD. It may still not work, but it'd be worth a shot, I suppose.
Furthermore, I always delete bloatware I'm not going to use with Titantium Backup. If I need to go back to stock for an OTA, I just flash the complete stock of whatever phone I'm on. For us on the Xperia Play, we have the .ftf files. That'll prep you for an OTA just fine.
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Hilariously, that exact question came across my head last night. In all reality I think they are done with it, we are never gonna see 2.3.4 or ICS (although shockingly they still sell it $19.99 w/2 yr in store, or free online w/2yr).
I'm gonna probably go the titanium backup route. I am running out of space severely.
U can try system/app mover on play store,but u need root. It works great! I changed some apps in my Cyanogen nightly build,like messaging app ,or stock camera and even converted Gboard

Koodo SGH-T989D - slow, lags

Picked up a Koodo SGH-T989D SII a few weeks ago. The device is running Icecream Sandwich.. I find it lags and has response issues.
Apparently jellybean is not yet out for it, I tried connecting the phone last night to Kies to check for an update because the device does not have a OTA option in Settings but KIES is such a POS software that I nearly pulled my hair out.
The software will just not detect the phone being plugged in.. not matter what I tried.
What are my options? Can I install jellybean from another carrier on this phone?
DHeffernan said:
Picked up a Koodo SGH-T989D SII a few weeks ago. The device is running Icecream Sandwich.. I find it lags and has response issues.
Apparently jellybean is not yet out for it, I tried connecting the phone last night to Kies to check for an update because the device does not have a OTA option in Settings but KIES is such a POS software that I nearly pulled my hair out.
The software will just not detect the phone being plugged in.. not matter what I tried.
What are my options? Can I install jellybean from another carrier on this phone?
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Root your phone. Check out the development thread for this phone. There are many stable if not perfect JB roms in there.
cricketAC said:
Root your phone. Check out the development thread for this phone. There are many stable if not perfect JB roms in there.
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Will i lose the stuff thats currently on the phone and have to restart everything?
Like game saves, etc?
DHeffernan said:
Will i lose the stuff thats currently on the phone and have to restart everything?
Like game saves, etc?
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Well if you ONLY root you will preserve your items (if you do it the proper method)
But if you want to transfer game saves and such (Google sadly doesn't backup all the data..) when you want to flash Jellybean for example, you can use Titanium Backup
Koragg618 said:
Well if you ONLY root you will preserve your items (if you do it the proper method)
But if you want to transfer game saves and such (Google sadly doesn't backup all the data..) when you want to flash Jellybean for example, you can use Titanium Backup
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Well only rooting will not get me anywheres and resolve the issue I am seeing.
So basically I would have to use titaniumBackup do a proper backup, then root and flash jellybean, then restore the backup?
Also Titanium Backup in the play store is showing *root besides it.. Does that mean I need to be rooted in order to use it? Basically not even being able to backup the stuff this initial first root?
DHeffernan said:
Well only rooting will not get me anywheres and resolve the issue I am seeing.
So basically I would have to use titaniumBackup do a proper backup, then root and flash jellybean, then restore the backup?
Also Titanium Backup in the play store is showing *root besides it.. Does that mean I need to be rooted in order to use it? Basically not even being able to backup the stuff this initial first root?
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This link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2195283
Rooting initially will not erase any memory according to this post, so you can root, then download Titanium Backup and backup, and then do a nandroid backup in the recovery if you don't like the next ROM you might use.
Root first, then install titanium backup (sorry I tried to post a link to rooting, but I'm new here so I'm prevented from posting links).
Anyways, once you root and install Titanium backup to backup your apps & data, then you can flash a custom ROM. Make sure to make a Nandroid backup first (Google it) in case you change your mind. There are a lot of choices. Jedi Jelly is good and has a similar look and feel (Touchwiz) to the ROM that came with your phone. AOKP and Cyanogenmod are very popular alternatives that look a bit different but also work quite well.

AT&T Update Help

I received the notification to update this morning to 4.4, however the update started to apply, it kicked it out with a suspected root error. Before applying the update, I had already uninstalled Xposed and unrooted my phone, so I am not sure what set off the root checker. I was wondering what my options were at this point. I know I can flash back to stock, but I would like to avoid this if at all possible. Are there any alternatives, or will I be forced to flash back to stock?
Thanks in advance for your help.
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marksman81 said:
I received the notification to update this morning to 4.4, however the update started to apply, it kicked it out with a suspected root error. Before applying the update, I had already uninstalled Xposed and unrooted my phone, so I am not sure what set off the root checker. I was wondering what my options were at this point. I know I can flash back to stock, but I would like to avoid this if at all possible. Are there any alternatives, or will I be forced to flash back to stock?
Thanks in advance for your help.
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I'm having exactly the same issue. I used the one click root method and have unrooted using full unroot in SuperSu.
But it appears full unroot per SuperSu is not enough? I tried root checker in Play Store and it says I am not rooted.
When I run the install it takes a long time to download and gave 0x13e error after the reboot while upgrading.
I also tried the LG PC Suite but it says my phone has the most current version, that is weird...
This OTA seems to be very picky as I was able to update in January 2014 fully rooted....
I wonder if I need to flash the IOT and go through the hassle of reinstalling all apps and config....that's a lot of hassle...
View92612 said:
I'm having exactly the same issue. I used the one click root method and have unrooted using full unroot in SuperSu.
But it appears full unroot per SuperSu is not enough? I tried root checker in Play Store and it says I am not rooted.
When I run the install it takes a long time to download and gave 0x13e error after the reboot while upgrading.
I also tried the LG PC Suite but it says my phone has the most current version, that is weird...
This OTA seems to be very picky as I was able to update in January 2014 fully rooted....
I wonder if I need to flash the IOT and go through the hassle of reinstalling all apps and config....that's a lot of hassle...
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It is very strange but if I try update recovery it says my battery does not have enough charge. (but battery is at 100%).
I even bought a new battery. I did disable carrier iq spying service before I unroot.
Do I have to enable carrier iq spy in order to upgrade?
View92612 said:
It is very strange but if I try update recovery it says my battery does not have enough charge. (but battery is at 100%).
I even bought a new battery. I did disable carrier iq spying service before I unroot.
Do I have to enable carrier iq spy in order to upgrade?
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Your phone needs to be 100% stock in order for OTA updates to work. This means:
no custom recovery (CWM, TWRP, etc)
all bloatware must be present
you can't be rooted
all system services must be like stock (this includes carrier IQ, so yes, it needs to be reenabled).
If you can't get the OTA to update after fixing everything, try flashing this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2760895
This IS the ATT stock ROM, but mildly debloated. The creator only debloated things that could be installed via the Play Store though (like Google Music, Newstand, Books, etc), so there isn't anything like the remote app or something missing.
I flashed this version because I'm too lazy to try and return my phone to pure stock just to get the OTA and then have to reflash root and a custom recovery. Too much work for me.
EDIT: I'm not too sure what's going on with your recovery... I hope someone else can answer that for you.
The easiest thing to do is just flash the 4.4.2 Rom found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2760895
This route saves allot of time having to flash back to pure stock, wait for your phone to receive the update again, and your phone taking forever to download said update.
spexwood said:
If you can't get the OTA to update after fixing everything, try flashing this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2760895
This IS the ATT stock ROM, but mildly debloated. The creator only debloated things that could be installed via the Play Store though (like Google Music, Newstand, Books, etc), so there isn't anything like the remote app or something missing.
I flashed this version because I'm too lazy to try and return my phone to pure stock just to get the OTA and then have to reflash root and a custom recovery. Too much work for me.
EDIT: I'm not too sure what's going on with your recovery... I hope someone else can answer that for you.
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Thanks a lot. This is my wife's phone so she'd rather not to update if a data wipe is required. She's actually quite happy with 4.1.
Anything extra would only be a "good to have". I think I'll keep it on 4.1 until she switches to another phone.
I did download the slightly customized stock rom so that it could be updated in the future.
In fact, I still have stock recovery and the only reason I rooted was to disable carrier iq because it was doing funny things with the GPS, very annoying.
There is no other way to disable carrier iq without rooting...unfortunately...
View92612 said:
Thanks a lot. This is my wife's phone so she'd rather not to update if a data wipe is required. She's actually quite happy with 4.1.
Anything extra would only be a "good to have". I think I'll keep it on 4.1 until she switches to another phone.
I did download the slightly customized stock rom so that it could be updated in the future.
In fact, I still have stock recovery and the only reason I rooted was to disable carrier iq because it was doing funny things with the GPS, very annoying.
There is no other way to disable carrier iq without rooting...unfortunately...
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If you flash that ROM over her current stock ROM, it should act just like an OTA update and replace the JB OS with the KK OS. It should also replace JB version Google apps with KK ones too.
If you decide to do this, you will need to do 3 things:
1) Make a backup just in case, but then copy the backup to your PC
2) Backup the internal SD to a PC and then format the internal storage. (see *2 below as to why)
3) After the flash, you will need to install the apk from the following thread and use it to install a Kitkat compatible CWM. If you don't while in recovery at any time, you may get stuck in what's called the Recovery Bootloop. Basically, every time you try to reboot the phone into the system (whether from a powered off state or from recovery), you will always go back to recovery.
The only bad thing about this recovery is that it can't read external SD cards, so anything you want to flash/backup will need to be stored on internal storage.
*2) Kitkat uses a different directory system for internal storage. If you were to not wipe the internal SD and managed to get the OTA working, it would wipe the drive for you automatically (which means all your data would be gone!).
However, with this flashable stock ROM, what will happen instead, is that all your data will remain, but will be hidden from view/access. If you have root, you can get it and move it, but it's a pain. Otherwise, your files are hidden from you, yet the system reads X amount of your internal storage as being occupied by "Miscellaneous" files, yet shows that nothing is there.
So just backup the files, then format the internal storage (which will leave her apps alone) before updating. Then flash that ROM and then copy the files back over.
All this is up to you and your wife as to whether or not you deem it to be worth the effort.

Are LG G4 stock apps available for DL?

I went a little too far with removing some of the default LG apps after rooting and I'm getting odd issues now. I'd like to reinstall apps vs. reimage the stock setup if possible.
Does anyone know where I can grab all the stock apps for the G4?
If you install LG Smartworld, you can download all the LG apps again.
it's also accessible here: http://www.lgappstv.com/
Thanks for the suggestion but it looks like the applications I need aren't in this store. So far it looks like I need to reinstall LG Lifetracker, LG Backup and LG Air drive.
sorozco said:
Thanks for the suggestion but it looks like the applications I need aren't in this store. So far it looks like I need to reinstall LG Lifetracker, LG Backup and LG Air drive.
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There is somewhere you can download them. I thought it was that app. it must be another LG app somewhere, because I had to use it to download and install the FM Radio app.
Found it!
Settings - About Phone - Update Centre - Software Update.
Your missing apps are in there for download
It claims all apps are installed. I wonder if I didn't fully delete the apps with Tibu so it thinks I still have them.
the_scotsman said:
Found it!
Settings - About Phone - Update Centre - Software Update.
Your missing apps are in there for download
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sorozco said:
It claims all apps are installed. I wonder if I didn't fully delete the apps with Tibu so it thinks I still have them.
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Why don't you just reapply the rooted system.IMG you used while rooting. That will give you all your apps back
I tried that and it didn't for whatever reason.
markbencze said:
Why don't you just reapply the rooted system.IMG you used while rooting. That will give you all your apps back
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sorozco said:
I tried that and it didn't for whatever reason.
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I almost wonder if perhaps you had frozen the apps at some point prior to uninstalling them cause if you did, when you reinstall stuff tibu would pick up that you want them frozen and they would be gone again. Flashing the system installs all the crap that's included in stock so this is the only logical reason I can think of that would be causing your issue
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It claims all apps are installed. I wonder if I didn't fully delete the apps with Tibu so it thinks I still have them.
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I have the LGUSMms.apk installed, I see it in folders, in app drawer, but when I click it, it says app not installed, won't open. I redid the rooted image, still the same. Any ideas?
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