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I just tried the samsung pen and it is not as good as expected. Its not crisp and quick. Writing with my finger is better. So the pen goes back to the maker.
It may have to do with the screen protector but I doubt it.
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vasp3690 said:
It may have to do with the screen protector but I doubt it.
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Removing my screen protector helped a bit but I'm still not impressed either.
How did you expect it to work? It's not smart like the s-pen on the note. All it is meant to do is replace a finger.
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Lennyuk said:
How did you expect it to work? It's not smart like the s-pen on the note. All it is meant to do is replace a finger.
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True. I didn't expect it to be better than s-note, but I didn't also expect to be worse than my finger!!
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vasp3690 said:
True. I didn't expect it to be better than s-note, but I didn't also expect to be worse than my finger!!
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My thoughts exactly!
I'm using one of those cheap stylus pens often bundled with cases and I found that it's better than my finger. Don't see the need for a c - pen know I know it's not an improvement
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Alex Charles said:
I'm using one of those cheap stylus pens often bundled with cases and I found that it's better than my finger. Don't see the need for a c - pen know I know it's not an improvement
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do you remember which one was that?
i thought id find the c-pen and memo usefull if i could write in a similar fashion as when taking notes on a paper. (well as close as it can get)
This is just Samsung cashing in on the popularity of S-Pen and charging 40 times the price of some capacitive pens with no better results.
You could tell by all of the pictures that the CPen is a gimmick. I was very disappointed when they didn't replicate the Note's SPen.
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You could tell by all of the pictures that the CPen is a gimmick. I was very disappointed when they didn't replicate the Note's SPen.
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Well, it is has a 3mm tip according to the specs. This is much smaller than a capacitive stylus.
I don't understand why they would change what already works. Does it have a button like the Note stylus?
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No. No buttons on it
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The C-pen is a complete failure, its really bad, i expected it to be better than galaxy note as there is a lotta hype created for samsung galaxy s3. I was completely taken aback with its sad precision and smoothness.The way Samsung is going i thought they must have definitely improved the feel of thw cpen but it was not. this is a set back.
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I don't understand why they would change what already works. Does it have a button like the Note stylus?
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The Note is marketed to a specific segment, completely different from the Galaxy S line of phones. The Note uses a Wacom digitizer for the stylus that is much more precise, whereas the S3 uses a traditional capacitive pen because it isn't marketed to have the same kind of stylus functionality as the Note (and the Wacom digitizer does add a certain amount cost) - otherwise they'd include the stylus with the S3 the same way it's included with the Note.
Actually, the C-Pen is more than a regular capacitive stylus since it apparently doesn't work with other capacitive screens for some reason, but the principle is still the same. It's like wondering why your cell phone is missing the nice 10 inch screen from a tablet.
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The Note is marketed to a specific segment, completely different from the Galaxy S line of phones. The Note uses a Wacom digitizer for the stylus that is much more precise, whereas the S3 uses a traditional capacitive pen because it isn't marketed to have the same kind of stylus functionality as the Note (and the Wacom digitizer does add a certain amount cost) - otherwise they'd include the stylus with the S3 the same way it's included with the Note.
Actually, the C-Pen is more than a regular capacitive stylus since it apparently doesn't work with other capacitive screens for some reason, but the principle is still the same. It's like wondering why your cell phone is missing the nice 10 inch screen from a tablet.
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It is a step backwards. Sure the Note was a niche market, but they didn't skimp on the stylus for it. SMemo and SNote can't be the same with the CPen. IMO they should've stuck with the design even if it is an optional accessory. It adds more functionality.
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I just don't like the implication through omission of details Samsung are making that this is like the S Pen, I mean I just think they want to trick people to believing this can do the same job as S Pen because obviously it's got a similar name and they making no effort to explain it.
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It is a step backwards. Sure the Note was a niche market, but they didn't skimp on the stylus for it. SMemo and SNote can't be the same with the CPen. IMO they should've stuck with the design even if it is an optional accessory. It adds more functionality.
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Adding the Wacom digitizer adds cost to the phone, so the phone would have cost more with it included. It makes sense to not include it when this is marketed to those wanting a regular phone, whereas those that are looking for specific stylus functionality can go to the Note.
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Adding the Wacom digitizer adds cost to the phone, so the phone would have cost more with it included. It makes sense to not include it when this is marketed to those wanting a regular phone, whereas those that are looking for specific stylus functionality can go to the Note.
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I understand why they didn't offer the pen with the phone and why the Note would have one. Why they didn't make an SPen that is compatible is what I am wondering. Cost isn't an issue when sold as an accessory.
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I understand why they didn't offer the pen with the phone and why the Note would have one. Why they didn't make an SPen that is compatible is what I am wondering. Cost isn't an issue when sold as an accessory.
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I can see why they'd sell it as an accessory but I would hope it actually worked properly. Once the word is out that its crap, noone will get it.
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I tried this C-pen as well and it's a PoS.
Ironically, I've just taken delivery of a charging stand that comes with a free pen (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0080R6MW0/ref=oh_details_o03_s01_i00) and that one works better than the C-pen. (And it's an ink pen too!)
Couldn't make it up.
Hi
Is there any dock keyboard or case keyboard with slope screen regulation (like in Asus Transformer)?
Next important thing is to can use camera with this dock/case.
That's what I'm looking for, doesn't have to necessarily be a case for me but want something it snaps into so it's sturdy in the lap and stays propped up
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I have looked seriously hard to find this and I could never come up with anything. I wanted to buy a transformer, but my sole purpose in a ten inch tab was for handwritten notes, so the transformer failed the test in that regard. The best you are going to find, I think given my searches, are using a bluetooth keyboard with a folding stand case. That's all I could find.
Hopefully one of these days samsung releases their keyboard for the US version, I think the tablet snaps into it but doesn't fold up like the asus
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I have looked seriously hard to find this and I could never come up with anything. I wanted to buy a transformer, but my sole purpose in a ten inch tab was for handwritten notes, so the transformer failed the test in that regard. The best you are going to find, I think given my searches, are using a bluetooth keyboard with a folding stand case. That's all I could find.
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Transformer it isn't a good choice.
Trust me I had it... Of course Asus make a lot of updates but there are a lot of bugs too.
Strange, because Samsung love to make money on accessories and we have only some good dock for ipad and exactly transformer.
Any news about this case?
For Samsung Galaxy Tab 2, Note 10.1, P5100 N8010 Bluetooth Keyboard Leather Case
It's not exactly a dock Keyboard.
Or this one...sturdier.
Bluetooth Aluminum Alloy Keyboard Case for Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 N8000
and this one...
This is the original Keyboard dock
Genuine Samsung EKD-K14AWEGTGY 83 Keys Keyboard Dock for Galaxy Note 10.1 White
Another Bluetooth Keyboard Solution
So because I'm new here I cant post any new links, but if you go on amazon and type this "ANS1IN-BB0" into the search bar you should find the Zagg Bluetooth Folio Case for 10 inch tablets. I'm not sure if it covers any needed ports, but it would definitely cover the S-Pen. But with tablet design most keyboard docks cover the S-Pen anyway considering its on the bottom of the device. It basically gives any 10 inch tablet a clamshell "laptop" profile.
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For Samsung Galaxy Tab 2, Note 10.1, P5100 N8010 Bluetooth Keyboard Leather Case
It's not exactly a dock Keyboard.
Or this one...sturdier.
Bluetooth Aluminum Alloy Keyboard Case for Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 N8000
and this one...
This is the original Keyboard dock
Genuine Samsung EKD-K14AWEGTGY 83 Keys Keyboard Dock for Galaxy Note 10.1 White
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the samsung EKD-K14AWEGTGY (third link you offered), is exactly what i am looking for, but, cant't find it in stock anywhere, any ideas where i can pick one of these up?
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the samsung EKD-K14AWEGTGY (third link you offered), is exactly what i am looking for, but, cant't find it in stock anywhere, any ideas where i can pick one of these up?
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I find some seller in my country (Indonesia) that sell this product.
Other than that, it's discontinued
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I find this, but the price is outrageous.
http://www.ioomobile.com/shopbybrand/1573-genuine-samsung-ekd-k14awegtgy-keyboard-dock-for-galaxy-note-101-white.html
Asus Phonepad X Keyboard
I found this possible option for a bluetooth keyboard with slope control. Of course I think it would be too loose for the GT-N8000. But with some modification, maybe a little padding on the inside, I think the GT-N8000 would fit inside it just fine. The other problem would be that it covers the charging port, but if that doesn't bother you and if you're willing to do a bit of modifying then this could be a good solution. Once Again, I'm not allowed to post links, but i'm sure you can look it up. Its the Asus Padphone X Mobile Dock. Its a Bluetooth keyboard that the tablet fits inside of, but it doesn't have any of the ports that most Asus Transformer Keyboards have.
I'm still waiting to get my Note 8.0, but I was wondering which pen would be a good purchase for the most natural drawing experience?
Is there any pen that is equal to or better than the S Pen? My only real concern is that it looks a bit thin and uncomfortable to hold.
I know this can be somewhat remedied but placing the S Pen inside the housing of a click eraser... But that seems kinda clunky to me. - What do you do if you need to use the side button?
Idealy I would want a pen that is comfortable to hold, has two side buttons just like the Cintiq / Intuos Pens, has an eraser, and can be calibrated to be *at least* as accurate and sensitive as the S Pen.
I've heard that the Bamboo Feel Pen (that was designed for the Note 10.1) doesn't work so well on the Note 8.0... Is this true? Anyone here given it a try?
Anyways, so what are my options?
Thanks in advance.
Edit: Perhaps this thread would be placed in Accessories - Mods?
I have the 8pi pen, its thicker and has an eraser end. I found it is off by 5 pixels, but I only use it in Lecture Notes and that app is able to correct for it. But I wanted a better, heavier more real pen feeling pen, so I ordered the Bamboo Feel. Based on the Wacom email it could take 3 weeks for me to receive it though! Whenever I get it, I will post a short comparison.
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Thanks for the response!
An offset is something I definitely don't want in a pen. I'll probably wait on your review on the Bamboo Feel... Or if anyone else can confirm if it has an offset or not. I really like the look of it. I have a 'feel'ing it will be a really nice pen.
Sorry for the intromission in this theead... but have the same problem.
Want any suggest on a pen for my device. A capacitive pen, but not the classic with large point.
I haven't note. To me too expensive. Have a gt-i9300, a galaxy tab 7 and a zte v11a.
Someone can suggest ? Thanks a lot!
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Our company used to use a bunch of old HP Elitebook convertible tablets (2510/2730), I discovered the styluses work with the Note devices and I've been using these for my Note 2 and Note 8.
The styluses are similar to these: http://www.amazon.com/HP-digital-pe...8&qid=1367096073&sr=8-2&keywords=2710p+stylus
This is the cheapest I've found (can go for up to $60), but I like the thicker pen for more control.
The nice thing is the back end of the pen works like an eraser in some apps.
The spen that comes with it is the best ive used thus far. I have the one with the eraser and the plastic nibs and horrible offset have me using the included spen.
nymviper1126 said:
The spen that comes with it is the best ive used thus far. I have the one with the eraser and the plastic nibs and horrible offset have me using the included spen.
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This is disapointing to hear. I bought the larger spen before I bought the tablet as I wanted something that would feel better in my hands for drawing. I'm guessing there is no way to correct for this offset unless the specific app you are using has that functionality.
From what I understand, any sylus that is compatible with wacom tablets, should be compatible with the note series. What I dont know if there will be an offset on these as well though. I really hope not or that they can be re calibrated. I intend on using the attached spen and a seperate stylus on my tablet and id like them both to be correctly calibrated.
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rEVOLVE said:
Our company used to use a bunch of old HP Elitebook convertible tablets (2510/2730), I discovered the styluses work with the Note devices and I've been using these for my Note 2 and Note 8.
The styluses are similar to these: http://www.amazon.com/HP-digital-pe...8&qid=1367096073&sr=8-2&keywords=2710p+stylus
This is the cheapest I've found (can go for up to $60), but I like the thicker pen for more control.
The nice thing is the back end of the pen works like an eraser in some apps.
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Thanks for this info. As I said in the reply above, any stylus compatible with wacom digitizers should be compatible with the note. What worries me is that there may be an offset with other styluses on these tablets (as seems to be the case with the 8pi pen). If thats the case, then the benefit of the technology is greatly diminished for drawing purposes.
The styluses seen for note and note 2 seems too much like the stylus of my old bamboo graphic tab... am i wrong?
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I am using the Samsung Bluetooth S-Pen.
http://www.amazon.com/Original-HM5100-Bluetooth-Adapter-Samsung/dp/B00B59OKTW
It is not a difference in terms of functionality. But feels much better due to its bigger size and weight. And it includes tips that are somehow coated with rubber which makes writing on screen a little more comfortable.
I got my Wacom Bamboo Stylus.
I haven't used it enough to be a good judge of offset, except that it definitely has more of an offset than the 8pi, and Lecture Notes can correct for it in landscape but I haven't been able to correct it in portrait mode yet (still trying to figure out the settings). If you need to use it in apps that do not allow you to adjust the offset, you can either use it vertically to the tablet (90 degree angle) with no offset, or shorten the nib. It appears the offset in any of these pens is related to both how much of an angle you write with, and how long the nib is sticking out of the pen.
I like the added thickness of the Bamboo Feel. It makes it feel like a real pen. It also feels heavier than the 8pi, but all the weight seems to be in the cap, making it feel top heavy when writing, so I'm undecided whether the weight is a plus or not.
It does not have an eraser end like the 8pi. This doesn't bother me since I disliked using it in the 8pi. It felt a lot more awkward and inaccurate to use than using the other button to switch between pen and eraser.
Both pens have a clip. The 8pi has a plastic clip vs the Bamboo Feel has a metal clip. I like the Bamboo Feel's metal clip much much better. The clip on the 8pi looks so fragile I'm afraid to use it. However the clip on the Bamboo Feel is study yet flexible enough that I can clip it to the side of the fake leather Moko cover that I'm using (till the Samsung and Poetic covers arrive). It is possible to keep it in the pen loop on my cover, but it only barely fits, so it's much more convenient to clip it to the side of the cover. I think this will allow me to use it with the thinner covers without a pen loop, so this pen will become the one I will be using daily.
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I am using the Samsung Bluetooth S-Pen.
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can u fit this in original pocket for s-pen? Or you have to carry this separately?
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can u fit this in original pocket for s-pen? Or you have to carry this separately?
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No, the bluetooth pen is much bigger. More like a real pen. But a big one.
Question for those of you who had the original Galaxy note n7000 or i717, but also know what the 10.1 s-pen "feels" like...
I recently purchased an "S-pen Holder" off of eBay for use with my Note 10.1 (n8000), though the s-pen that comes with it is intended for the Original Galaxy Note (n7000).
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-S-Pen-Stylus-Holder/dp/B0076Z3GMG
I thought that while the note devices had undergone improvements, the actual s-pens were functionally the same, so I figured I would be nice to have a more pen-like s-pen. The s-pen that fits in the holder does function, but it is definitely NOT the same. While the pen holder is very very nice, the actual S-pen that fits inside of it is absolute crap compared to the one that comes with the note 10.1. The tip is very hard, and does not have the "gumminess" that allows the pen to lay down that nice real pressure sensitive line.
So my question is, does anyone know if they ever make a less crummy pen for the n7000? Is there one available with has more of that modern Galaxy note feel to it? Or, is there a decent aftermarket pen with the same form factor?
I want to keep this fantastic holder, but I will not be able to use this s-pen. The problem is that the case only fits the pen in the shape made for the n7000 and i1717. I already asked the same question on the forums for those devices, which are ghost towns.
Any input would be great.
No need to tell you all how much we use the pen, being forced to lose it, Ouch....... So can we get the S7 or S7 active too read the X Y of the pen, I know we can't store the S-pen in the phone, but that's a small price to pay.
i think note series had special digitalizer..very diferent with s7 s7edge
Nope. Won't work.
The Note devices has a Wacom digitizer beneath that works with the S Pen.
You could try getting a Samsung Tablet that comes with the S Pen. The Note 7 Pen should work on it too.
Thanks for the reply guys, its shame it cant be done, I can't let go of my note 7, using the pen on the s/edge7 would have been to convenient huh
✒ SPen. Let me give you my 3 cents.
What is not: resistive or capacitive pen. Meaning aplying pressure (Like and old iPhone) will not make it work like the resistive pens. Nor will holding it with your hand or touching skin-pen combination. You can put it on a vise-grip and it will work.
What it is: It works like the sensor on your car keys. Where it has a coil inside and if you place it close enough to a magnetic source you will get feedback or pen strokes. The Note 7 has a metal sheet used as a magnetic source behind its regular screen.
What you need on a Non-Note phone is a "Capacitive" pen. Made of all metal some with battery and make direct skin-pen to screen contact for it to work like the SPen. Unfortunately nobody wants metal rubbing a glass screen obviously ?
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