I thought that 4.4.2 was properly implementing the Lockscreen widgets where the access to things like Camera is provided so that you can quickly record a photo/video without having to enter your PIN or pattern but when you need to actually see those images, you will be asked to enter PIN or pattern. That's how it works in all phones (at least my wife's HTC One).
How come we can not get this feature in S4? I thought this is what they fixed in 4.4.2 but I am still not able to select Lockscreen widgets if I use PIN or pattern.
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I thought that 4.4.2 was properly implementing the Lockscreen widgets where the access to things like Camera is provided so that you can quickly record a photo/video without having to enter your PIN or pattern but when you need to actually see those images, you will be asked to enter PIN or pattern. That's how it works in all phones (at least my wife's HTC One).
How come we can not get this feature in S4? I thought this is what they fixed in 4.4.2 but I am still not able to select Lockscreen widgets if I use PIN or pattern.
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not sure about pin or pattern, but i have a camera icon in bottom right of my screen and it opens straight to camera...
diptenkrom said:
not sure about pin or pattern, but i have a camera icon in bottom right of my screen and it opens straight to camera...
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You see that icon only because you are not using the secure access lock like a PIN, password or pattern lock.
One of the advertised features of the 4.4.2 on Samsung S4 was to bring the Camera icon to the Lockscreen. Wasn't it?
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You see that icon only because you are not using the secure access lock like a PIN, password or pattern lock.
One of the advertised features of the 4.4.2 on Samsung S4 was to bring the Camera icon to the Lockscreen. Wasn't it?
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Technically they DID bring it to the lockscreen. You just have to have your lock screen set on a specific unlock method. It's actually kind of obvious why the camera icon is only on the swipe method. All the other methods require extra security and a bigger layout for the number pad/keyboard/and pattern circles. Plus if you're going to have that kind of extra security in locking your phone, it's dumb to be able to bypass that with a camera widget. Somebody can get ahold of your phone and load the camera up without even unlocking the device and easily go through your gallery. And who knows you might be able to get to your homescreen by hitting home from within the camera app after loading it. Then the person has full access to your phone.
Personally I don't see the big deal of 4.4 having a camera icon on the lockscreen. You were always able to add shortcuts to your lockscreen so why not just add your camera app to one of those shortcuts? Meh.
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Technically they DID bring it to the lockscreen. You just have to have your lock screen set on a specific unlock method. It's actually kind of obvious why the camera icon is only on the swipe method. All the other methods require extra security and a bigger layout for the number pad/keyboard/and pattern circles. Plus if you're going to have that kind of extra security in locking your phone, it's stupid to be able to bypass that with a camera widget. Somebody can get ahold of your phone and load the camera up without even unlocking the device and easily go through your gallery.
Personally I don't see the big deal of 4.4 having a camera icon on the lockscreen. You were always able to add shortcuts to your lockscreen so why not just add your camera app to one of those shortcuts? Meh.
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Wait...I think you are confused. The ability to add widgets to the lockscreen was always there since 4.2. You just had to move to this insecure method of "swipe to unlock". This is not new in 4.4.2.
What was supposed to be new in 4.4.2 update for Samsung TW was what has been a feature in almost all phones since 4.2, and that is to do it securely i.e. allow opening the camera app and allow to take photos and record video but don't provide access to the gallery or the phone. When the user wants to access anything inside the phone, he/she has to enter the PIN/password/pattern. That's how it worked in any sane phone circa 2012/13.
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Wait...I think you are confused. The ability to add widgets to the lockscreen was always there since 4.2. You just had to move to this insecure method of "swipe to unlock". This is not new in 4.4.2.
What was supposed to be new in 4.4.2 update for Samsung TW was what has been a feature in almost all phones since 4.2, and that is to do it securely i.e. allow opening the camera app and allow to take photos and record video but don't provide access to the gallery or the phone. When the user wants to access anything inside the phone, he/she has to enter the PIN/password/pattern. That's how it worked in any sane phone circa 2012/13.
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Yeah I am aware it's been available since 4.2. I get what you're saying now, my bad.
If you are rooted, you can try an Xposed module called Samsung Multiple Widgets. This allows you to access the camera if you are on a PIN unlock screen. I've had success on 4.3. The module, for me, isn't working correctly on 4.4.2. You can try it yourself.
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If you are rooted, you can try an Xposed module called Samsung Multiple Widgets. This allows you to access the camera if you are on a PIN unlock screen. I've had success on 4.3. The module, for me, isn't working correctly on 4.4.2. You can try it yourself.
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That module is broken and its dev has been saying "anytime" now for sometime. He is a busy guy! So, I don't expect that to change.
That was the reason why I was excited about KK update for TW, hoping that Samsung will finally do it. But alas, no luck!
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The only thing I miss about iOS is the ability to preview my txts/emails without unlocking the phone even when I had a password. ICS doesn't allow this unless when you disable security with is obviously a bad idea. Any one knows how to work around this?
Not trolling, but isn't security on your lock screen supposed to protect your information? If you opt to have your info (emails, texts, etc.) displayed on your lock screen, then it renders any security measures on your device useless.
I recently came across an app that did this, but can't for the life of me remember which it was. If it comes back, I'll let you know - but you could always search...
Agree. iOS is unsecured and it is nonsense to display pop-up alerts about my personal notifications while my phone is security locked. If you really want them you may try 3rd party apps like Friendcaster for Facebook and Handcent SMS.
I use widgetlocker. I can pull my notification bar down while the screen is locked and go straight into an app with it. Also you can change the crap out of the lock screen if you want.
https://market.android.com/details?...DEsImNvbS50ZXNsYWNvaWxzdy53aWRnZXRsb2NrZXIiXQ..
I'm using the latest CM9 KANG build and it has support for this.
It doesn't need to display personal information. It only needs to show what types of notifications you have. Personally, I don't care that much if someone reads my new emails. For messages and IM, it only needs to say you have a message from X. The rest of my notifications are not at all personal.
I tried Widget locker but didn't like it.
I'll definitely try CM9.
Thanks!
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I use widgetlocker. I can pull my notification bar down while the screen is locked and go straight into an app with it.
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You can do this with stock locker also..
Indeed, you don't need a custom Rom, third party app, mod, or whatever.
You can just pull your notification screen down when your GN is locked. That is a standard function in ICS.
Laynee1 said:
You can do this with stock locker also..
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This only works with slide to unlock, if password code protected you can't drag down the notification bar(which the OP seems to want).
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Since I couldn't find a solution I disabled security all together. This feature, especially with slide to costume apps added with AOKP is just too good to not use. I installed avast anti-theft and will lock my phone if it falls into the wrong hands.
BTW I recommend avast mobile security. It's free and has MUCH more options that seekdroid and where's my droid.
I just noticed that when using the camera, a swipe to the left brings the last taken photo.
I'm on a 4.1.2 rom
Usually I pay attention to new android features, but I didn't remember reading about this one, so I thought I would share...
This was even announced along with 4.1 at Google I/O this summer
Unfortunately in 4.2 your can do the same thing on the permanent lock screen widget, exposing your gallery to everyone who might come across your phone.
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Unfortunately in 4.2 your can do the same thing on the permanent lock screen widget, exposing your gallery to everyone who might come across your phone.
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You mean even with a secure lockscreen?
asim0 said:
You mean even with a secure lockscreen?
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no, not with a secure lock screen. it shows a padlock then asks you to enter your password
asim0 said:
You mean even with a secure lockscreen?
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Yep, just tested it. Really stupid.
Though, on the flip side, I tried something I didn't realize before - tried to access the phones internal storage via USB and it wouldn't show anything until I unlocked it once after it was connected.
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no, not with a secure lock screen. it shows a padlock then asks you to enter your password
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Oh, you're right. I could have sworn that it didn't need unlocking, but it seems you're right.
You can use this app too. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34093005 It works well.
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Unfortunately in 4.2 your can do the same thing on the permanent lock screen widget, exposing your gallery to everyone who might come across your phone.
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OMG the swipe saved a potential high jacker of my photo Two clicks... I don't get why everyone is up in arms about the lock screen camera. When using a secure lock it will only show photos taken during that session or nothing at all. If your unsecure then it takes two swipes to do what two what taps will do on every single other phone running iOS 4+ or Android 4.0+. Seriously swipe to the camera icon or tap it on a iOS device and then tap gallery... Voila all the gallery is there....
Seriously I don't really get all the hatorade being thrown towards Google over swipe to camera... Its fantastic IMO, abit slow though
Yup, this was there since 4.1.
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Seriously I don't really get all the hatorade being thrown towards Google over swipe to camera... Its fantastic IMO, abit slow though
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I'm not sure we talk about the same thing; at some point the discussion shifted to lockscreen, but what I originally meant was: when you use the camera app (when you can see on your screen what is seen by the camera) then you can swipe to the left to bring the gallery; I know you can also click on the thumbnail preview at the bottom, but swiping is easier when you use the phone single hand
While in the gallery view you can fling up or down to delete pics.
I was given Widgetlocker by a friend (He gave me a 10$ Google Play Gift Card) yesterday. I noticed that Widgetlocker doesnt have a Pattern or Pin Lock option on it, and I get my stock lockscreen on my Galaxy S3 immediately afterwards, which seems incredibly redundant.
Don't get me wrong, the application is great, and I haven't had any issues aside from this so far.
Is there any way to force Widgetlocker to use a pattern or pin lock? Or alternatively is there a way to add a camera shortcut on the stock touchwiz lockscreen?
You probably have to disable the stock lock screen for it to not show up after, or maybe a setting on widget locker, and I think the only way to get a camera shortcut is to use ripple on stock lockscreen
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You probably have to disable the stock lock screen for it to not show up after, or maybe a setting on widget locker, and I think the only way to get a camera shortcut is to use ripple on stock lockscreen
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Well that bites. I suppose I will live without it, Its not like it takes me more than 1-5 seconds to draw my pattern/pin anyway.
Its really like that for a reason.
If you can access the camera w/o using your pin/pw/pattern, it makes using the security features pointless.
From camera you can open gallery/messaging and from there you can get to your contacts and dialer. So if someone stole or found your phone they'd have unsecured, easy access to most of your stuff.
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Its really like that for a reason.
If you can access the camera w/o using your pin/pw/pattern, it makes using the security features pointless.
From camera you can open gallery/messaging and from there you can get to your contacts and dialer. So if someone stole or found your phone they'd have unsecured, easy access to most of your stuff.
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I use lightning launcher ultimate (which has lock screen) and after clicking an app, it displays the stock pattern screen, then takes you to your shortcut, thereby security is still useful, choppy!
sonatamartica said:
I use lightning launcher ultimate (which has lock screen) and after clicking an app, it displays the stock pattern screen, then takes you to your shortcut, thereby security is still useful, choppy!
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Actually WidgetLocker works this way too.
Enable pin/pattern on phone and ensure the option in Widget Locker to disable the stock screen is not checked.
Completely remove the swipe to unlock button and don't replace it. You'll have a blank WidgerLocker lock screen with a clock.
Long press and add apps and widgets. Change security to lock screen immediately. Power power button. Click a widget on homescreen. You'll be prompted to enter the pin/pattern! You have access to all your apps on the locker screen, with pin/pattern security simply by disabling the slide to unlock button. You're welcome (albeit months and months late.)
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Its really like that for a reason.
If you can access the camera w/o using your pin/pw/pattern, it makes using the security features pointless.
From camera you can open gallery/messaging and from there you can get to your contacts and dialer. So if someone stole or found your phone they'd have unsecured, easy access to most of your stuff.
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I realize this thread is old but I feel compelled to contribute my .02 for the benefit of those like me who's search for help on this topic leads them here.
It seems to me the OP is simply pointing out the fact that Widgetlocker doesn't offer a PIN or pattern unlock feature like those found in most other lock screen replacement apps. IMHO this a CATASTROPHIC omission by the devs of what I believe is an otherwise-outstanding app! I mean it -- I LOVE this app! The fact that something so simple and avoidable is keeping me from being able to use it pains me gravely. To be clear, yes, it appears WL can be set to give deference to system PIN/pattern security as mentioned in another post but someone please explain to me how doing this doesn't defeat the point of installing the app in the first place!
I agree that there are potential security concerns in having lock screen shortcuts bypassing the pin/pattern lock; I however disagree that such a thing necessarily "makes using security features pointless." Let's be frank. Some of us have much bigger security concerns than worrying about who might be snooping through our pictures or contact lists, but even in the event that such things are the aggregate of one's sensitive "stuff" there are ways to achieve essential functionality without turning over the keys to one's deepest, darkest secrets. One could, for example, simply download a basic camera app without a gallery link, or a standalone dialer app with a null (or decoy) contact list. With a bit of hackery one needn't even give up the comfort or utility of full-feature apps in this regard. Failing this, there are still plenty of other apps one might want quick and unfettered access to which do NOT pose an inherent security risk (i.e. music player, flashlight, weather, stopwatch/timer, calculator, universal remote, fruit ninja, etc.). What's the point of having shortcuts/widgets on the lock screen if you have to unlock your device to access them? Why not just use the shortcuts/widgets on the home screen if you're going to go to the trouble to make an effort commensurate to that end anyhow?
Is this a bug in kitkat?
i have this problem too
kuromusha38 said:
Is this a bug in kitkat?
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Reg2net said:
i have this problem too
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Not a bug that's what's Samsung decided to implement in the latest update
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Is this a bug in kitkat?
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i think that was there before too..
The whole point of a pattern or pin lock is too prevent the lock screen from opening unless correct input is provided. Whereas lockscreen widgtes take u directly inside..
If they were enabled with pattern/pin lock the whole idea of security would be defeated as anyone copuld open your phone just by swiping them. Its a logical enhancement and not a bug.
sometimes I want to see the widget without unlocking my phone. And how I want to unlock my phone is my choice, whether password or pattern or none. But I should be able to see my widget.
kuromusha38 said:
sometimes I want to see the widget without unlocking my phone. And how I want to unlock my phone is my choice, whether password or pattern or none. But I should be able to see my widget.
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i widget is kind of a short cut. If you swipe it across it opens up the correspoding app and also unlocks the phone simultaneously. This cant be done in case of pateern/pin lock,
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i widget is kind of a short cut. If you swipe it across it opens up the correspoding app and also unlocks the phone simultaneously. This cant be done in case of pateern/pin lock,
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not really, MohammadAG had an xposed plugin that allowed widgets on locked samsung TW, shame it doesn't work on 4.4 devices...samsung is ****e for taking away such feature
ticktock666 said:
not really, MohammadAG had an xposed plugin that allowed widgets on locked samsung TW, shame it doesn't work on 4.4 devices...samsung is ****e for taking away such feature
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yeah i know there was a way. But on a non rooted stock device its not possible. And dont blame samsung. Its a development that will be done time i guess; similarly how it was done before :good:
With Android 12, Google brought back the lock screen shortcuts on Pixels, but they're not very useful for me: the device controls and your mobile wallet. You have to unlock your phone anyway before using either, and I have quick settings to use once unlocked, so lockscreen shortcuts don't really do anything for me.
Is there any way to change those shortcuts? Presumably with adb or something. I'd rather have the old camera and assistant shortcuts.
Pixel 6P, not rooted, full stock, all software up to date.
I don't really get it: you can always disable those two shortcuts on the lock screen setting if you don't really like them; and for the two which you are looking for, Google implemented them in gesture with the power button: one long click for Google Assistant and double quick clicks for the camera.
And if you are rooted, @Typhus_ 's Add_On magisk module has a feature to put the camera short cut on the lock screen.
I don't want them disabled, I like having something there. I just want something else.