16GB vs 32GB - One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello will they be any down side to buying the 16GB version to the 32GB version if you plan on adding a 64GB sdcard? what I mean by this will the Device allow me to install all apps onto the SDcard.
Thanks

Well 16gb may not be able to fit all your apps. Thats fine as long as you get an sd card with fast read and write speeds. If you may experience slow dons if putting apps on the sd card.

^ What the poster above me said, plus the fact that in Android 4.4+, apparently there are issues with writing/deleting to/from the external SD card - just something you might want to take into consideration.

you may want the 32gb internal to install many apps/games as most apps are not movable to the externel SD.

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[Q] reusing SD card from previous phone

Just bought a Play which has come with a 8GB SD card. Previously I was using a Huawei 8220 (Tmobile Pulse) with a 16GB card which is pretty full ... so in reality I think I'll be moving to a 32GB card soon!
Initially I thouhgt I'd just put the old SD card in and reinstall apps etc and work from there ... however looks like the supplied 8GB card already as ~3GB of data on it ... is any of this essential and if its not there does it get auto-installed (I managed to start the phone with the S card not properly reseated and it started talking about needing a card with enough space to install the game when I tried to run FIFA10 ... if I use another card will things reinstall?)
When I get a 32GB card can I just copy contents of both current cards onto it? Or will that just confuse everything! And for now, should I stick to the 8GB card which came with the play and is preloaded with play data or sue my existing 16GB card which has lots of app data on it?
deshepherd said:
Just bought a Play which has come with a 8GB SD card. Previously I was using a Huawei 8220 (Tmobile Pulse) with a 16GB card which is pretty full ... so in reality I think I'll be moving to a 32GB card soon!
Initially I thouhgt I'd just put the old SD card in and reinstall apps etc and work from there ... however looks like the supplied 8GB card already as ~3GB of data on it ... is any of this essential and if its not there does it get auto-installed (I managed to start the phone with the S card not properly reseated and it started talking about needing a card with enough space to install the game when I tried to run FIFA10 ... if I use another card will things reinstall?)
When I get a 32GB card can I just copy contents of both current cards onto it? Or will that just confuse everything! And for now, should I stick to the 8GB card which came with the play and is preloaded with play data or sue my existing 16GB card which has lots of app data on it?
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The data on the supplied SD Card is just some tones/wallpers, the sony suite for windows and the asset data for the games that come with the phone. If you don't want the wallpapers and sony suite, you can delete contents, game data can be downloaded anytime by launching the game
I made a copy of the 8GB card that came with my PLAY & also made a copy of the 16GB card that I had with my Samsung Fascinate. I combined both & put all of it on a new 32GB.
So in steps to make best of it...
1) Copy 8GB data to PC
2) Copy 16GB data to PC
3) Clean up anything you no longer need on the 16GB backup
3) Copy 16GB data to 32GB SDHC card
4) Copy & overwrite last with 8GB data to 32GB SDHC card
Now you'll have everything that was given for free from Sony Ericsson as well as what you had previously. I recommend keeping the free games at the very least.
Thanks ... that's about what I'd assumed - just wanted to double check before I did anything stupid!

How much app storage do you get?

Hello am thinking on getting this phone but dont want to make the same mistake like I did with desire. So out of the 32GB how much is left for apps.
Also can you use your own sd card or is it just 32GB.
Thanks
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The phone has 32GB worth of flash inside.
Actual usable internal storage for apps is 2GB.
The "SD card" portion is 25GB.
There isn't a slot for a SD card and the internal flash is eMMC which is soldered to the board. You can't upgrade it. 2+25 is all you get.
2gb for apps as well as the 25gb partition. No SD card slot
Thanks guys

Anyone having issues with running out of Memory?

I had an LG G Pad (got stolen this weekend, GRRR) so I am shopping for my next tablet. my one issue is the 16GB of memory, is it enough, or is apps to SD available on this now? I was running out of space on the g pad even putting what (little) I could on my sd card. Thanks
aawshads said:
I had an LG G Pad (got stolen this weekend, GRRR) so I am shopping for my next tablet. my one issue is the 16GB of memory, is it enough, or is apps to SD available on this now? I was running out of space on the g pad even putting what (little) I could on my sd card. Thanks
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I have the SM-T325 16gb internal with 64gb microsd card. No issue with sufficiency of internal storage. The OS needed only 3.98gb, my apps totaling 90 used only 2.32 gb and I still have available space of 10.26gb, plus of course the external storage. To top it all, you can move the apps to the external microsd card; it is a built-in capability without requiring the app2sd app.
ondoy1943 said:
I have the SM-T325 16gb internal with 64gb microsd card. No issue with sufficiency of internal storage. The OS needed only 3.98gb, my apps totaling 90 used only 2.32 gb and I still have available space of 10.26gb, plus of course the external storage. To top it all, you can move the apps to the external microsd card; it is a built-in capability without requiring the app2sd app.
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Thank you very much, great information.
Its a very subjective question. It depends on what you need to put on the tablet storage, and if you can put media, etc. on the removable SD card. If you can put stuff on an SD, just buy a 32 or 64 GB one, and you're good to go.
I personally agree that 16 GB is bit low for devices nowadays. 32 GB would have been great. But the Tab Pro 8.4 (WiFi) was what I wanted, and is only available with 16 GB, far as I can tell. I use it with a 32 GB SD, and its workable.
It has the inherent issue of having 2 external storage. The primary being a partitioned storage in the internal memory which is part of the 16GB of the device. Any app you move to SD would move it to that storage thereby using up the internal 16GB storage of the device. So far I have not found a way to move the app to the real external storage, the removable SD card.
With that being said, installing games that are huge would eat up your 16GB device storage.
Rooted?
If you're rooted, there are many ways to move "apps" (or rather, apps data) to the SD card.
The one I use is FolderMount, available in the play store. It allows to mount a folder from your internal storage to the SD card, so everything happens for the system as if it was internal storage, but the files are saved to the SD card. I do that for my OBB folder (Android / obb) which contains around 20GB of games data currently... And still have 10GB left on my internal storage because of that.
Guillaume Delarue said:
If you're rooted, there are many ways to move "apps" (or rather, apps data) to the SD card.
The one I use is FolderMount, available in the play store. It allows to mount a folder from your internal storage to the SD card, so everything happens for the system as if it was internal storage, but the files are saved to the SD card. I do that for my OBB folder (Android / obb) which contains around 20GB of games data currently... And still have 10GB left on my internal storage because of that.
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I was trying to avoid root but it seems there's no choice in this case.
One question though before I take the plunge and root, there's another folder under the Android folder called data, should I mount that as well?

External Memory Card swap query

I have a Zenfone 2 Deluxe ZE551ML 128GB version running stock 5.0
I have been using a Samsung 32GB pro memory card and had moved many apps including games to the SD card. After 1 month of usage, now I have bought a 128GB memory card. I assumed that if I copy all the contents of the 32GB memory card to my new 128GB card, I can just exchange the same and all my apps and games (which I moved to SD card) would be working fine. Well, my idea didn't work and the apps were not recognized by the phone, I put back the 32GB card and the apps work fine again.
So, the only way for me to use my 128GB memory card is to first move all the apps back to internal memory, then insert my new memory card and then move the apps back to memory card? I've got way too many games and apps and wish to confirm this before proceeding!

Adoptable Storage HTC 10

So I have read that there is a way to do mixed adoptable storage on Marshmallow. Allowing part of the SD card to be internal and part to be external memory. I followed the steps to obtain this through using ADB but allows get sd corrupt error or does not recognize this format. In either instance I have to format the card and start over.
Has anyone come across this issue and have a solution?
Or does anyone have a suggestion?
I'm trying to use my Sandisk Ultra 128GB in my US unlocked HTC 10 running Venom ROM.
I wouldn't even use Adoptable Storage. There really isn't much benefit to using it in my opinion. Also now you have an SD card that is useless outside the phone. Reformat the sd card.
schmeggy929 said:
I wouldn't even use Adoptable Storage. There really isn't much benefit to using it in my opinion. Also now you have an SD card that is useless outside the phone. Reformat the sd card.
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I know it's pretty useless but I could use a little more storage for all my apps.
I heard you can do a 2nd partition on the SD card and use that partition only as adoptable storage. The rest of the SD would be used like a normal SD card.
schmeggy929 said:
I wouldn't even use Adoptable Storage. There really isn't much benefit to using it in my opinion. Also now you have an SD card that is useless outside the phone. Reformat the sd card.
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I know it's pretty useless but I could use a little more storage for all my apps.
I heard you can do a 2nd partition on the SD card and use that partition only as adoptable storage. The rest of the SD would be used like a normal SD card.
Its useful if you happen to drop your phone with all your naked pics. They cant take out the sd card and access it from their computer.
jmorales30 said:
I know it's pretty useless but I could use a little more storage for all my apps.
I heard you can do a 2nd partition on the SD card and use that partition only as adoptable storage. The rest of the SD would be used like a normal SD card.
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If I am not mistaken that causes more issues then not. The way the adaptable storage is coded it was made to use the whole sdcard. So trying to partition it doesn't really work well.
How do you change Back from one to the other?
How do you convert a "existing" removeable storage SDXC card (with data) to be a "internal" storage card? Or vice versa? I'm looking to change my Samsung Evo 256GB (class 10, U3) card which I initially made "removeable", to become "Internal". I'm not looking for lectures on the "pro and cons", just a step by step process to do this. FYI - I wanted the larger and faster memory for 4K videos. I have no problem with this being a dedicated card to my HTC 10 once completed. Please note that as a removeable storage card, I'm finding duplicate files (internal/removeable). What's up with that?
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How do you convert a "existing" removeable storage SDXC card (with data) to be a "internal" storage card? Or vice versa? I'm looking to change my Samsung Evo 256GB (class 10, U3) card which I initially made "removeable", to become "Internal". I'm not looking for lectures on the "pro and cons", just a step by step process to do this. FYI - I wanted the larger and faster memory for 4K videos. I have no problem with this being a dedicated card to my HTC 10 once completed. Please note that as a removeable storage card, I'm finding duplicate files (internal/removeable). What's up with that?
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You will have to clear it out as it will format the sdcard. No way around it and it will have to be set as non removable.
zelendel said:
You will have to clear it out as it will format the sdcard. No way around it and it will have to be set as non removable.
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So in either scenario, you'll have to copy the "entire" content of your SDXC card to your computer (or other storage device), and then recopy back once the card is reformatted as the other storage (internal/removeable)? Isn't there a tool or something to help do this? I already have 56GB on the card. Isn't there folders that should only be on "internal" and not on "removeable" (in copying entire card)?
dpsrams said:
So in either scenario, you'll have to copy the "entire" content of your SDXC card to your computer (or other storage device), and then recopy back once the card is reformatted as the other storage (internal/removeable)? Isn't there a tool or something to help do this? I already have 56GB on the card.
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Pretty much. Also to be honest it really doesnt make much of a diff. This option was made for devices with low internal memory. You know devices with like 4gb of internal memory where there is no room for apps at all.
A waste of a feature on any real flagship device. This is why most OEM removed or hid the option.
zelendel said:
Pretty much. Also to be honest it really doesnt make much of a diff. This option was made for devices with low internal memory. You know devices with like 4gb of internal memory where there is no room for apps at all.
A waste of a feature on any real flagship device. This is why most OEM removed or hid the option.
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Ok, so are you also saying that I'll not see any performance difference with the Samsung Evo 256GB card (R-95MBS/W-90MBS). I got it specifically to "better" handle 4K videos. I would expect a performance boost having this as "internal" memory. No?
schmeggy929 said:
I wouldn't even use Adoptable Storage. There really isn't much benefit to using it in my opinion. Also now you have an SD card that is useless outside the phone. Reformat the sd card.
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zelendel said:
Pretty much. Also to be honest it really doesnt make much of a diff. This option was made for devices with low internal memory. You know devices with like 4gb of internal memory where there is no room for apps at all.
A waste of a feature on any real flagship device. This is why most OEM removed or hid the option.
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on problem in marshmallow is you cannot move a lot of apps to sd card. switching to adopted storage allows them to use the space. over the years ive started using a lot of apps, that over the years got very large in size. 32gb is barely holding in there now and adopted storage will allow more when without it I would have to start deleting apps.
I didn't run into any adb issues or flashing issues when using it, but at the moment I have it set to removable since I have really nothing new to add.
dpsrams said:
Ok, so are you also saying that I'll not see any performance difference with the Samsung Evo 256GB card (R-95MBS/W-90MBS). I got it specifically to "better" handle 4K videos. I would expect a performance boost having this as "internal" memory. No?
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No you wont see an increase at all and maybe a bit of a decrease due to the different ways OEMs added SDcard support (remember google removed support from the OS so all SDcard code for mounting and using are all on the OEM.)
afuller42 said:
on problem in marshmallow is you cannot move a lot of apps to sd card. switching to adopted storage allows them to use the space. over the years ive started using a lot of apps, that over the years got very large in size. 32gb is barely holding in there now and adopted storage will allow more when without it I would have to start deleting apps.
I didn't run into any adb issues or flashing issues when using it, but at the moment I have it set to removable since I have really nothing new to add.
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Well that is because of the way android mounts the sdcard. Putting apps on the sdcard is just asking for trouble. I have never had more then a 32gb device for the last few years and never used more then half. I also dont keep anything I dont need on my device. Apps are less then 10.
Facebook app lags or freezes on SD card (Adoptable Storage ). any solution ?

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