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I get an upgrade at the beginning of next month. Should I get the GNex or hold out till the new nexus comes out? I know it hasn't been deemed official but google has been consistent. I'm on verizon so I don't get the unlocked goodness of the straight from google version. My other option is to get the S III but with a locked bootloader means a no go for me. I'd have to wait till december to switch carriers.
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I get an upgrade at the beginning of next month. Should I get the GNex or hold out till the new nexus comes out? I know it hasn't been deemed official but google has been consistent. I'm on verizon so I don't get the unlocked goodness of the straight from google version. My other option is to get the S III but with a locked bootloader means a no go for me. I'd have to wait till december to switch carriers.
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Either get the current nexus or wait till December.
My advice would be to wait until you can switch carriers in December. Get an off contract account and buy an unlocked nexus at that time.
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My advice would be to wait until you can switch carriers in December. Get an off contract account and buy an unlocked nexus at that time.
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What he said!
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In my area I only get to choose AT&T as far as carriers go and I don't really like them. T-mobile has very little coverage and the small regional providers all are buddied up with verizon.
Here's another question, does phone hardware really matter right now? I know the nexus is a little slower compared to the tegra 3 beasts but does it affect anyone at all? I used a droid incredible for 16 months mostly on cm7 and it never showed its age until apps got "prettier"...
Wait, you think Verizon is getting another Nexus?
lmfao.
Just get the Verizon one if you're planning on staying with them.
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If your eligible and don't want a locked s3 or a so called "non official nexus" then maybe switch providers. I dunno how early this upgrade is so there could be fees. If you want an s3 then switch as the bootloader issue might hurt you in the end. Or just run out your agreement and get a gsm nexus straight up as was mentioned already. That's how I got mine
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Wait, you think Verizon is getting another Nexus?
lmfao.
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Nope. Although it'd be stupid for google not to release one on the US largest provider. Just the fact that Verizon and Sprint can't do unlocked phones and even though I could care less about 4g (I dont have it) its still an option. I'm just looking for advice on wether to upgrade to a 8 month old device or wait till samsung drop's their developer edition of the SGSIII
If I were you I would wait. There's already a workaround for the locked bootloader on the GS3 if you want it, but in the smartphone game, it's always best to wait and see. I wouldn't advise you to get the VZW Nexus when there could be several more updated options (MOAR NEXUSESSS) available toward the end of the year (if the rumors are true). And if not, the GS3 and GN will still be there for you but at cheaper prices.
In the smartphone games "waiting and seeing" is dumb, there's always going to be something better around the corner. Just get what you like at the time.
As for the nexus being 8 months old, I'd say it'll still be relevant for quite some time. I have yet to find any apps that it can't run flawlessly.
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bukithd said:
Nope. Although it'd be stupid for google not to release one on the US largest provider. Just the fact that Verizon and Sprint can't do unlocked phones and even though I could care less about 4g (I dont have it) its still an option. I'm just looking for advice on wether to upgrade to a 8 month old device or wait till samsung drop's their developer edition of the SGSIII
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The unlocked GSM Nexus sells for $350. The Nexus 7 sells for $200 and $250. Do you really think Google is trying to profit off of hardware? That is not how Google makes their money. The could care less if you have a Nexus...as long as you are using google apps and search, they get paid.
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I get an upgrade at the beginning of next month. Should I get the GNex or hold out till the new nexus comes out? I know it hasn't been deemed official but google has been consistent. I'm on verizon so I don't get the unlocked goodness of the straight from google version. My other option is to get the S III but with a locked bootloader means a no go for me. I'd have to wait till december to switch carriers.
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I'm in the same boat as you but I'm already eligible for an upgrade and my contract with sprint ends in 2 months. I pretty much spent a whole day on here reading after purchasing the Nexus from best buy.com and ultimately decided to cancel my order. The Sprint GNex is getting the shaft because they won't be releasing source code and the only way to get updates is to either flash a port or wait for the OTA. And we all know how timely those OTA's roll out from Sprint. The dev's do an amazing job with what they are given but I need a stable/working phone and running leaks/ports isn't for me anymore.
I read through a lot of the ACS JB thread and it seems like lot of people are having issues with MMS right now.
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My advice would be to wait until you can switch carriers in December. Get an off contract account and buy an unlocked nexus at that time.
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I'm dumping sprint after my contract ends. I'm tired of paying about the same as everyone else but having the crappiest carrier/speeds. It's pretty sad when I'm getting .01Mb/s down AND up.
I plan on picking up the unlocked Nexus ($350) from the google play store and going with TMo. They currently have a pre-paid plan for $30 a month, no contract, 100 minutes, and unlimited text and data.
I don't ever talk on the phone so I don't care about the minutes. They do throttle after 5gb but I get the impression that sprint does the same thing if you are a heavy user, but that's just my theory.
Thanks for the info for those who offered it. Verizon may be exspensive and hardasses but its my best choice. As for my phone, if the SIII dev edition comes to existance I'll probably get that but the VZW gnex seems to be very limited when it comes to veriozn's habits...
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Thanks for the info for those who offered it. Verizon may be exspensive and hardasses but its my best choice. As for my phone, if the SIII dev edition comes to existance I'll probably get that but the VZW gnex seems to be very limited when it comes to veriozn's habits...
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At least the Verizon GNex got put back in the AOSP tree and source and binaries got dropped well before OTA.
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/drivers
So at least that means there will be more stable ROM's and possibilities since the Dev's can build directly from source and don't have to port.
If you are grandfathered in on Verizon's data plan then you may as well stay with them. Have they started enforcing the policy that you lose your grandfathered plan once you upgrade?
Since the Motorola Mobility merger is now completed (on paper) I can see the next Nexus device beeing a Motorola one which could take a while to happen. Since the GNex will probably at least even get the next Android after JB you're pretty much set with it, so get it!
I've been with AT&T for the last 2 years (Galaxy S3). Thinking of switching to T-Mobile.
Where should I buy the One M8? Directly from T-Mobile? Or are there factors like price, bloatware, firmware updates, bootloader, carrier logo on the phone, etc. that would make buying an unlocked or developer edition from HTC a better choice? How do all these things work on T-Mobile, and on the One M8 specifically?
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I've been with AT&T for the last 2 years (Galaxy S3). Thinking of switching to T-Mobile.
Where should I buy the One M8? Directly from T-Mobile? Or are there factors like price, bloatware, firmware updates, bootloader, carrier logo on the phone, etc. that would make buying an unlocked or developer edition from HTC a better choice? How do all these things work on T-Mobile, and on the One M8 specifically?
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Before switching to T-Mobile, make sure they have good coverage in your area. I am currently testing them (again lol). Coverage does seem to be improving. Do you want to finance the phone? If so, then you have to get it through T-Mobile. All carrier versions of the M8 will be bootloader-locked; however, you can have HTC unlock it. I am sure the phone will get updates just has fast as any other carrier. Remember, the unlocked/developer editions will not have Wifi calling, which is very nice.
I too am considering picking up the TMO branded M8 as my developer edition was taking forever to ship from HTC.com.
Remember you don't really get discounts on phones for T-Mobile anymore because there is no contract. You can use the jump thing they offer which is pretty good for those who like to switch phones every 6 months. But personally, I would find a used one or refurbished one rather than paying full price. But beware of scammers with that route.
However with the price you'll pay with T-Mobile and doing the "jump" you would probably still save money lol.
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The AT&T and international M8 are not compatible with T-Mobile 3G network.
So, if you want to use it with T-mobile, you need to buy it from them.
طوني تبولة said:
The AT&T and international M8 are not compatible with T-Mobile 3G network.
So, if you want to use it with T-mobile, you need to buy it from them.
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true and false at the same time. It depends if the area you live in has been reframed. If they have LTE then the HSPA+ network is PCS1900 and not AWS. Best to check the area and find out if it's been reframed or not.
T-Mobile jump is a scam, you have to pay off 50% of the cost and you don't get to keep it, then you get new phone.
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just like buying a phone trying to sell it to get back 50%+ of the money around the same time most people would turn in during jump? You'll be stuck on the same boat. Either T-mobile does the leg work for you or you do it yourself. Either way seems the same to me. Since I am accident prone Jump is actually worth the money for me, and also when I am ready to change devices I don't have to find ways and deal with people to sell a phone to buy a phone.
I got mine through TMO even though I don't use them(I'm on straight talk). They are charging pretty close to the going rate for the phone(even with the interest added in they're not taking you to the cleaners too bad) so it's not a bad deal if you don't wanna go out of pocket all the money at once. The one I got was able to be s-off and thus simunlocked for free so that worked out beautifully for me.
My friend also got one(he is the one who is on TMO) and it's been great for him as well. We've both had good reception with it.
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just like buying a phone trying to sell it to get back 50%+ of the money around the same time most people would turn in during jump? You'll be stuck on the same boat. Either T-mobile does the leg work for you or you do it yourself. Either way seems the same to me. Since I am accident prone Jump is actually worth the money for me, and also when I am ready to change devices I don't have to find ways and deal with people to sell a phone to buy a phone.
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To each hos own i suppose. Htc one m8 goes for around 460 on craigs list in Seattle area
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nohcho said:
To each hos own i suppose. Htc one m8 goes for around 460 on craigs list in Seattle area
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Give it 4 months and you'll be lucky to get $300. Also you probably be trying to sell the phone for weeks to months at $460. Been there done that.
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Give it 4 months and you'll be lucky to get $300. Also you probably be trying to sell the phone for weeks to months at $460. Been there done that.
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I know, it's depriciating fast. When g3 dropa itl go dwon even faster
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T-Mobile jump is a scam, you have to pay off 50% of the cost and you don't get to keep it, then you get new phone.
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not true, if you are on the "original" jump....
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not true, if you are on the "original" jump....
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Obviously i was not talking about the original jump. The original jump was great and that's is why T-Mobile got rid of it because it was too good of a deal for consumers.
Also, the original jump is not available now is it? No, it is not
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Yes, It is for me, and anyone else who was a t mobile customer before Feb. 22nd, 2014
You are automatically grandfathered in if you were on TMobile before that date
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Yes, It is for me, and anyone else who was a t mobile customer before Feb. 22nd, 2014
You are automatically grandfathered in if you were on TMobile before that date
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What about new cstomers?
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new customers can only choose the "new" jump, not the original one that I am on..
Swappa.com is amazing place to buy an m8. I bought tons of Phones on there and am about to buy an m8.
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I was looking at the HTC website and see that an off contract M9 is on sale for $650. I would buy one if it will run on Verizon. Unfortunately, HTC list AT&T, Sprint, Tmobile, but no Verizon. See attachment.
Do you think we will ever see on off-contract, developer edition of the M9 for Verizon?
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I was looking at the HTC website and see that an off contract M9 is on sale for $650. I would buy one if it will run on Verizon. Unfortunately, HTC list AT&T, Sprint, Tmobile, but no Verizon. See attachment.
Do you think we will ever see on off-contract, developer edition of the M9 for Verizon?
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I believe that Verizon is not listed yet is because they have not started their pre-orders yet, which will start on April 1. At that time, I'm sure that VZW will be included on HTC's website.
Will the developer edition work on the Verizon network?
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Will the developer edition work on the Verizon network?
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At present, Developer is GSM only, so, no, it's won't work on Verizon.
Will the M9 Unlocked work with Verizon?
I've never bought an unlocked phone so I appologize if this is a noob question, but I did do some searching and didn't come up with any answers.
Will the unlocked M9 work on Verizon?
Thanks!
Very doubtful, usually GSM only.
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I just spoke to HTC customer service and they confirmed that both the unlocked and developer's edition are GSM only. No go on Verizon
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I've never bought an unlocked phone so I appologize if this is a noob question, but I did do some searching and didn't come up with any answers.
Will the unlocked M9 work on Verizon?
Thanks!
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Your post has been moved here, as the question has already been discussed/answered here:good:
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I just spoke to HTC customer service and they confirmed that both the unlocked and developer's edition are GSM only. No go on Verizon
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This is so maddening. I want a 64 GB version of the M9 which runs on Vz and can be unlocked and used with a custom bootloader!!! Pure Google for me.
I am hoping that once the M9 gets into the hands of the XDA developers that they find a way to turn on the Vz bands for the Developer Edition. I am thinking that there is only one hardware version of the M9 with different bands turned on for GSM versus Verizon. That seems to be the case with the S4.
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I was looking at the HTC website and see that an off contract M9 is on sale for $650. I would buy one if it will run on Verizon. Unfortunately, HTC list AT&T, Sprint, Tmobile, but no Verizon. See attachment.
Do you think we will ever see on off-contract, developer edition of the M9 for Verizon?
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wouldn't it be cheaper to add another line. activate phone. swap sim cards. change phone on new line to non-smart phone. $10/month. Sell your old phone or trade it in for a $100 credit (current promo). If you know someone that could use the extra phone, nice added bonus.
I have 5 lines on my plan and I use my other lines to borrow the upgrades from in order to upgrade every year. plus it's a business plan with only a $175 early termination fee. I've done that once too.
Might be too complicated but it could definitely save money.
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I was looking at the HTC website and see that an off contract M9 is on sale for $650. I would buy one if it will run on Verizon. Unfortunately, HTC list AT&T, Sprint, Tmobile, but no Verizon. See attachment.
Do you think we will ever see on off-contract, developer edition of the M9 for Verizon?
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No none of the non verizon version m9's will support the verizon bands.
The bands could probably be unlocked but just like the guys did to run the verizon m8's on tmobile there are so many issues with data most lose LTE signal a lot so it sounds like a can of worms.
Honestly I do not feel there would be enough dev support to get this accomplished even though I believe it could be done.
Many devs believe the phones are all the same hardware wise so they believe the carrier type and bands are all set up through software, but unless you know someone at htc willing to help, it probably wont happen, and if they did their job would be on the line.
I"am with you on this as I would like this also as I did on the m8 but just like converting a verizon m8 or m9 to a dev edition its probably not ever going to happen, which that issue is believed to be with the cdma side, as the verizon m8 and m9 are both world phones meaning both cdma and gsm.
You can probably thank verizon for that, as they do not want non verizon phones on their network, and since verizon always requires htc to not allow htc dev to unlock their bootloaders, so you probably wont ever see a dev edition for the verizon service.
This will probably never change until verizon gets knocked down a peg or two and they see at&t and tmobile are gaining ground and they figure out that they have to to be able to compete.
Verizon as a company just thinks they own the market and they do not care about their customers or what their customers want, they only care about what verizon wants and one day that kind of thinking will cost them.
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No none of the non verizon version m9's will support the verizon bands.
The bands could probably be unlocked but just like the guys did to run the verizon m8's on tmobile there are so many issues with data most lose LTE signal a lot so it sounds like a can of worms.
Honestly I do not feel there would be enough dev support to get this accomplished even though I believe it could be done.
Many devs believe the phones are all the same hardware wise so they believe the carrier type and bands are all set up through software, but unless you know someone at htc willing to help, it probably wont happen, and if they did their job would be on the line.
I"am with you on this as I would like this also as I did on the m8 but just like converting a verizon m8 or m9 to a dev edition its probably not ever going to happen, which that issue is believed to be with the cdma side, as the verizon m8 and m9 are both world phones meaning both cdma and gsm.
You can probably thank verizon for that, as they do not want non verizon phones on their network, and since verizon always requires htc to not allow htc dev to unlock their bootloaders, so you probably wont ever see a dev edition for the verizon service.
This will probably never change until verizon gets knocked down a peg or two and they see at&t and tmobile are gaining ground and they figure out that they have to to be able to compete.
Verizon as a company just thinks they own the market and they do not care about their customers or what their customers want, they only care about what verizon wants and one day that kind of thinking will cost them.
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I guess that my next phone will be a Nexus. Hopefully I can get the 64 Gb version to run on Vz.
The N6 seems too big, but I hear that people get used to it.
swieder711 said:
I guess that my nwxt phone will be a Nexus. Hopefully I can get the 64 Gb version to run on Vz.
The N6 seems too big, but I hear that people get used to it.
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Did you know that on the m9 you can get one free replacement such as if yours gets water damage or broken screen I think, or if you switch carriers htc will swap you out a m9 for the new carrier.
Now on the nexus 9 they are all supposed to work on any carrier, but the only ones verizon will activate on their network are the ones they sell. But what you can do is activate your sim in another verizon phone then pop it in any nexus 6 and its supposed to work they just wont activate a sim in a non verizon version and they will know because the imei of lets say a sprint version or tmobile wont be in their network of imei numbers that can be activated, but like I said activate the sim in another verizon phone and then put it in the nexus 6 and your good to go.
The one dev tigerstown he has a nexus 6 and an m8 also and he said he modified a sense 7 rom from an m9 to work on his nexus 6 so he has a nexus 6 running a htc sense 7 rom and he even uses the htc camera software on it.
I thought about it too and yeah it seemed a bit too big for myself also I want a 5.5 inch screen, I might check out the m9 plus but if it has the cheap processor and does not come with the 810 processor then I definitely wont be buying it. That lower grade processor might fly in the china market but it sure wont here.
Verizon is so bad that they will only activate imei numbers of there own phones they will block imei numbers of other phones and these are phones with clean imei numbers, where at&t & tmobile all they care about is that the imei number is not blacklisted which is all that should matter but verizon just tries to control everything and why should they care what phone you use when at&t & tmobile dont ?
Icyman said:
wouldn't it be cheaper to add another line. activate phone. swap sim cards. change phone on new line to non-smart phone. $10/month. Sell your old phone or trade it in for a $100 credit (current promo). If you know someone that could use the extra phone, nice added bonus.
I have 5 lines on my plan and I use my other lines to borrow the upgrades from in order to upgrade every year. plus it's a business plan with only a $175 early termination fee. I've done that once too.
Might be too complicated but it could definitely save money.
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What? Can you explain this differently. Lets say with my current device a Droid DNA, if I wanted to get an M9 and I am still in contract.
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What? Can you explain this differently. Lets say with my current device a Droid DNA, if I wanted to get an M9 and I am still in contract.
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How much is your etf ? You could pay your etf then open a new account on the comcast web site as they are a verizon dealer then you will get a $150.00 visa prepaid card for a rebate which it says you will receive it with in 6 weeks of your activation.
Or you could add another line getting the m9 which the comcast site has a $50.00 visa prepaid card as a rebate for that I believe as they list getting an upgrade. But then switch the 2nd line to a cheap regular phone like a flip or something and I think your monthly cost goes down, or after you get the m9 on your new line close it paying off the etf and put the m9 on your other line you had first. I think you can save some this way, also then you could sell your old phone to get some of the cost back.
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wouldn't it be cheaper to add another line. activate phone. swap sim cards. change phone on new line to non-smart phone. $10/month. Sell your old phone or trade it in for a $100 credit (current promo). If you know someone that could use the extra phone, nice added bonus.
I have 5 lines on my plan and I use my other lines to borrow the upgrades from in order to upgrade every year. plus it's a business plan with only a $175 early termination fee. I've done that once too.
Might be too complicated but it could definitely save money.
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What? Can you explain this differently. Lets say with my current device a Droid DNA, if I wanted to get an M9 and I am still in contract.
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In the past you could do this, now they have a note that says you must keep the $30 data plan on whatever line you use to upgrade/sign up. They are doing everything they can to get their money from you.
Just wondering. Why are so many of you buying from Verizon & BestBuy instead of Google?
You do realize the phones not purchased from Google will have a locked bootloader. So why would you buy from Verizon or BestBuy instead of Google, who has the same price and you can use either phones on Verizon if you so choose to do so.
I don't want to say ya'll are dumb, but I kind of feel this way.
I'm sure there is something I'm missing though, so help me understand please.
Are the payment plan options the same? If so that might be one reason. I have Verizon because that's what my employer (who pays for the phone and the bill) uses.
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Believe it or not, not everyone needs a bootloader unlocked these days. My days of tinkering with Android are over as I feel Android is better than ever. It is unfortunate the OP feels that I am dumb because everyone doesn't agree with his way of thinking...
It was also cheaper to purchase from Verizon for a new 2 year cobtract
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I personally ordered mine from Verizon due to my work account, and also don't care about root or unlocked boot loaders since I haven't needed either in several years. That being said I also believe many people have not been buying directly from Google because Google hasn't been able to keep them in stock. Which of course also implies that many people are buying them from Google, lol.
Best Buy is cheaper with a 2 year agreement ($299.99) as well as a 24 month installment ($31 a month), for 32GB version.
Also, best buy is giving a $100 gift card, which you can do whatever you want with. (resell it, use it, etc).
If you are only keeping the phone for two years, and don't care about updates after that, then its probably a better route. After two years, you are SOL for getting an up to date OS.
I had the note 7....the last return I just upgraded to the pixel xl. In exchange So....through Verizon it was.
Its an economic decision for me. In Germany I'll get the Device from T-Mobile Germany for 179€ (around 197 US$) for the renewal of my contract - I think this ist much better than the 1097€ direct from Google. The only downside is that it will have a locked bootloader...I'm still hoping someone finds a way to unlock the bootloaders of the Devices wich doesnt come directly from Google.
I ordered mine from Verizon. I haven't rooted a phone in a long time so locked or unlocked bootloader doesn't really matter for me.
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You do realize the phones not purchased from Google will have a locked bootloader.
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I have my phone rooted for Tasker and Xposed, but the Verizon phone can effectively be considerably cheaper right now.
So why would you buy from Verizon or BestBuy instead of Google, who has the same price and you can use either phones on Verizon if you so choose to do so.
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Best Buy will currently give a $100 gift card if you don't want a new line, a $200 gift card for a new line, another $25 for a sign-up will be available after the pre-order is over, and it can be done with monthly payments to allow porting out or cancelling the line. Verizon has phone trades that total $200-$300, which is done through reduced monthly payments, and my Razr M qualified for $200. Some people have other options on Verizon. Google does not offer similar sort of ways to essentially reduce the phone's cost at this time.
I don't want to say ya'll are dumb, but I kind of feel this way.
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Personally I question the idea of paying iPhone 7 prices, and since I'm not interested in the VR headset, that's basically what initial Google store customers are doing. As much as I like what Tasker can do with root, I'm not sure it's worth giving up automatic updates and effectively spending another $175 that I could have with $225 in Best Buy gift cards. If it turns out that there are limitations on the Verizon phones for anything other than the bootloader unlock, I'll probably change my opinion, but at this time it looks like Google's bottom-line price is considerably higher than what is possible at Verizon.
Purely inventory for me. Google shipments are a month or more out. They won't even take my money to pre-order it. VZW device I can have in 3 days.
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Buying it as a contract renewal over Deutsche Telekom is way cheaper for me, especially because I work there and get a monthly discount on the main contract.
I have to 29,95€ monthly instead of 64,95€ and get the Pixel XL 128 GB for 279,95€ on time fee.
But even the phone for my wife is way cheaper. I paid 19,95€ for here family card without a phone before, now we upgraded it to a contract with phone to 29,95€ a month and also 279,95€ for the small Pixel 32 GB.
Yes, I would also love to have a unlockable bootloader and instant updates from Google but after not rooting phones for a couple of years I will get along with it.
I wanted the one from the google store but didn't feel like waiting for it. I would like to have the bootloader unlocked just for the option but i haven't had time or need to mess with rooting and custom roms, so just having pure android is perfect for me. So for me it made sense to just order from Verizon, everyone has different needs or reasons and i would say for 90% of the people buying this phone has no need to ever unlock the bootloader or even know much about that world of roms and rooting. I thinks its a stretch to insinuate people are dumb for having a choice and choosing one over the other
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Troll. Glad you like your OP3. I'm sure there are plenty people on the OP3 threads that agree with you and would love to hear your comments.
I ordered from Verizon because I was able to trade in an old phone for monthly device credit. It should save me $100-200 depending on how long I stay on Verizon DPP. I preordered one from the Google Play Store as well. I don't plan on opening the box from the play store unless the Verizon model upsets me and needs to be returned.
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Whats the point of buying two then? Everything about the Verizon version is the same except for boot loader.....
Buying it directly from Verizon because
1) My job will be paying for it
2) I feel once I have stock Android I don't really need to have root or an unlocked bootloader.
3) Don't have to wait until it comes back in stock via the playstore.
Major discount through employee. 419 vs 869 for xl 128gb and plus availability. Still waiting though as I want to see if anyone cracks that Verizon bootloader within the first month.
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IkeBiker said:
Whats the point of buying two then? Everything about the Verizon version is the same except for boot loader.....
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I am planning on keeping the Verizon Pixel because it is cheaper for me. As more reviews and info come out that is ACTUALLY reputable, I want to be able to return it to Verizon within the first 2 weeks if I decide there are significant differences between the Verizon version and the Google Play version. If I do that, I want to have the Google Play store Pixel in a box ready for me to switch over. This way I also get to take advantage of the Daydream VR, no matter which device I return.
Since the announcement on October 4th, there has not been any real credible information about the Pixel. Everything has been "so and so said this... Don't buy the Verizon version... etc." Then every Android blog site just blindly regurgitates what was said as if it was real news. NO ONE fact checks. Some CSR at Verizon who doesn't know what a freaking bootloader even is said something, then everyone freaks out and android headlines and forums go crazy. Then someone at Google says something else and everyone takes that as the truth. Does anyone even look at where the info came from? The only group I believe at all at this time is Google Pixel team. If they didn't say it or someone cannot show me in a video with their phone in their hand, I'm not going to believe it.
As long as I am confident that the Verizon pixel will get updates straight from Google when Google promises (just like what I'm used to with Nexus), I don't see a convincing reason not to go with Verizon. I would like the ability to unlock the bootloader so that I can flash the factory images if that promise is not kept. With every new version of Android, I find less need to try custom roms. With what I have seen from 7.1, I don't think I will even have the urge.
destes37 said:
It is unfortunate the OP feels that I am dumb because everyone doesn't agree with his way of thinking...
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I regret saying it the way I did.
I don't think you're dumb at all.
XDA is all about development, I guess I'm still surprised when there are people here who don't care about flashing ROM's or backing up in TWRP and even some who apparently don't care about root any longer.
If I didn't care about flashing ROM's (or root), I'd be on a S7 Edge right now.
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I am planning on keeping the Verizon Pixel because it is cheaper for me. As more reviews and info come out that is ACTUALLY reputable, I want to be able to return it to Verizon within the first 2 weeks if I decide there are significant differences between the Verizon version and the Google Play version. If I do that, I want to have the Google Play store Pixel in a box ready for me to switch over. This way I also get to take advantage of the Daydream VR, no matter which device I return.
Since the announcement on October 4th, there has not been any real credible information about the Pixel. Everything has been "so and so said this... Don't buy the Verizon version... etc." Then every Android blog site just blindly regurgitates what was said as if it was real news. NO ONE fact checks. Some CSR at Verizon who doesn't know what a freaking bootloader even is said something, then everyone freaks out and android headlines and forums go crazy. Then someone at Google says something else and everyone takes that as the truth. Does anyone even look at where the info came from? The only group I believe at all at this time is Google Pixel team. If they didn't say it or someone cannot show me in a video with their phone in their hand, I'm not going to believe it.
As long as I am confident that the Verizon pixel will get updates straight from Google when Google promises (just like what I'm used to with Nexus), I don't see a convincing reason not to go with Verizon. I would like the ability to unlock the bootloader so that I can flash the factory images if that promise is not kept. With every new version of Android, I find less need to try custom roms. With what I have seen from 7.1, I don't think I will even have the urge.
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So much this right here. They said this about the Verizon N6 also. That everything would be locked down and look what happened. Nothing was locked down at all. I ordered the Verizon Pixel XL because of this also and i dont really need root anymore. If i am able to root its a plus but not a deal breaker for me.
arcanexvi said:
Purely inventory for me. Google shipments are a month or more out. They won't even take my money to pre-order it. VZW device I can have in 3 days.
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Yes, I also am grumpy and pissed at google for messing up the "orders / pre-orders". Year after year, they keep screwing up on the first step. They "could" have manufactured an extra 50, 000 and it would not have hurt their economics and it would have greatly helped their public image. Did the 'Note 7' burn put a snag in things ?
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What if the "big and detailed" reviews start coming in and it shows a narley wart about the phone ? ? ? My biggest, desired attribute is the big leap in the camera ( camcorder ? ) area . . .
I am on the verge of purchasing this phone from Verizon but I am just wondering do you guys think that the devs will be able to unlock the boot loader?. Or is it highly unlikely?
You should buy it from Google Store, that's an honest opinion.
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I am on the verge of purchasing this phone from Verizon but I am just wondering do you guys think that the devs will be able to unlock the boot loader?. Or is it highly unlikely?
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I would say no but maybe one day
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I am on the verge of purchasing this phone from Verizon but I am just wondering do you guys think that the devs will be able to unlock the boot loader?. Or is it highly unlikely?
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Highly unlikely I would guess. I think you can get it from the google store tho and have it activated on verizon network still, from what I have read. That version would come ready to be unlocked.
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Highly unlikely I would guess. I think you can get it from the google store tho and have it activated on verizon network still, from what I have read. That version would come ready to be unlocked.
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I am not even on Verizon . lol I'm on tmbile but Google rep said about a month until they go back up for sale. There is one on craiglist for 1,000$ for 32 GB idk if I should make the move or not.
egren58 said:
I am not even on Verizon . lol I'm on tmbile but Google rep said about a month until they go back up for sale. There is one on craiglist for 1,000$ for 32 GB idk if I should make the move or not.
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I definitely would not buy the Verizon one with the expectation of using it on any carrier besides verizon.
frch0603 said:
I definitely would not buy the Verizon one with the expectation of using it on any carrier besides verizon.
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Is factory unlocked from my end
Negotiating a 32gb google edition..
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I definitely would not buy the Verizon one with the expectation of using it on any carrier besides verizon.
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Why wouldn't you buy a "Verizon version with expectation of using it on another carrier"?
I bought a Verizon version last night from Best Buy (im not really worried about unlocking the bootloader at this point. Been doing it for years lol ) and put my T-Mobile sim card in and it worked immediately.
All these Google Pixel phones are carrier unlocked. Every single one. The only difference is that the Verizon version currently cannot be Bootloader unlocked, but I'm sure it will someday.
I would say buy from google if you really want to have an unlocked bootloader. I wont say it will never be unlocked but i think there will be very few working on it for the simple fact that you can buy an unlocked version. I would have bought it from google but it was more cost effective for me to buy it from Verizon.
Honest opinion = It is highly unlikely!
Most likely not since there is an google verison that comes with an unlocked bootloader for the same price.
I'm with verizon but bought it from the Google store. I am thinking about switching carriers sometime soon so I don't want to be stuck with monthly payments from Verizon on a device that won't be used on their carrier. That's why I did Google finance. Plus I already give too much money to Verizon each month. Bootloader being unlocked or not doesn't bother me but some people will want root and one day I may root and I want that option.
Yeahci will just wait till its available again. I'm on tmobile and I will never leave. Lol I only pay 50$ for unlimited everything
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Yeahci will just wait till its available again. I'm on tmobile and I will never leave. Lol I only pay 50$ for unlimited everything
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Same here. My wife is on Verizon and I looked at adding a line. If I buy it outright (pixel xl) I don't get the big credit for my V10, only fair market value and I don't get the free data bump either. At the end of the day, staying with T-Mobile with unlimited data just makes sense
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Same here. My wife is on Verizon and I looked at adding a line. If I buy it outright (pixel xl) I don't get the big credit for my V10, only fair market value and I don't get the free data bump either. At the end of the day, staying with T-Mobile with unlimited data just makes sense
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Yeah man ilove being grandfather in. I scanned a copy of my original contract, and a few times they tried to switch my plans to the new jump and I was like nope I have a SIGNED contract. Lol LOVE IT!! also I can't get throttle after using 20+ gigs of data.
Never buy a phone for what it MIGHT do in the future.
If you need root/unlocked bootloader buy a phone that already has that.
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So I will let the hypedye down now I'll just stick to 7.1.1 on the 6p. And than I'll sell my 6p and op3 to buy the xl in the coming months.
It seems there are too many Verizon models running around now that somehow came with an unlockable bootloader.... makes me think there is a better chance at the devs finding a way. Mostly just a hunch but....
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Will an at&t sim in verizon model prevent software updates?