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[Q] Amazon Fire tv Game Controller Pc Support

Is it possible to use the fire tv bluetooth gamepad controller to connect to pc as a controller and play pc games using the controller support ?

tammukul said:
Is it possible to use the fire tv bluetooth gamepad controller to connect to pc as a controller and play pc games using the controller support ?
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In theory - yes. It's a bluetooth controller, so unless they did weird protocol stuff like Sony did with the Dualshock 3 it should at least connect. Whether or not your PC sees it as a game controller or not is dependent on whether or not drivers exist for it or if it can use some form of "generic" bluetooth gamepad drivers, if those exist. If there are no drivers then someone will have to write them, though this is not a terribly difficult thing to do, since the drivers just have to read the inputs from the BT stack, then translate them to Xinput calls - pretty simple stuff. Note that I did not say EASY, just simple - an experienced coder/tinkerer could probably make them quickly, but a person lacking knowledge of how to deal with a bluetooth stack or the Direct X interface would have to learn those first.
Do some googling in case someone else has already tackled this subject elsewhere, and if not then consider putting up a bounty for them - as I said, it's quick money for an experienced programmer.

illuminerdi said:
In theory - yes. It's a bluetooth controller, so unless they did weird protocol stuff like Sony did with the Dualshock 3 it should at least connect. Whether or not your PC sees it as a game controller or not is dependent on whether or not drivers exist for it or if it can use some form of "generic" bluetooth gamepad drivers, if those exist. If there are no drivers then someone will have to write them, though this is not a terribly difficult thing to do, since the drivers just have to read the inputs from the BT stack, then translate them to Xinput calls - pretty simple stuff. Note that I did not say EASY, just simple - an experienced coder/tinkerer could probably make them quickly, but a person lacking knowledge of how to deal with a bluetooth stack or the Direct X interface would have to learn those first.
Do some googling in case someone else has already tackled this subject elsewhere, and if not then consider putting up a bounty for them - as I said, it's quick money for an experienced programmer.
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Well...
The pc does not detect the game controller as anything. Thats the issue. Is there a way around this ?
Thanks for the reply though, quite informative.

so mine was detected as "amazon fire game controller". within windows it is possible to calibrate it. but no game recognized it as a usable controller.
windows 8 pro 64bit
cheers
tammukul said:
Well...
The pc does not detect the game controller as anything. Thats the issue. Is there a way around this ?
Thanks for the reply though, quite informative.
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mystykally said:
so mine was detected as "amazon fire game controller". within windows it is possible to calibrate it. but no game recognized it as a usable controller.
windows 8 pro 64bit
cheers
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I wasn't able to get Windows 7 to recognize my AGC. probably because I have some crappy CSR Bluetooth usb receive that I don't even have software for. TBH, I don't think I've ever connected anything to it though, but I don't have a lot of Bluetooth stuff.

seems L2+R2 doesnt work. no game actually recognize this as a legit controller...
any ideas?

try to use xpadder?

mystykally said:
seems L2+R2 doesnt work. no game actually recognize this as a legit controller...
any ideas?
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I can use the controller with a n64 emulator (project64). The emulator recognize the controller and i also can play games. Just L2 and R2 dont work at all.

try x360ce, its an xinput emulator so it should be detected as an xbox360 controller in most games.

Mine is recognised by my PC via a bluetooth USB adapter, but apparently you need some sort of serial code to connect them together which Iam unable to find. Also, the L1 and L2 triggers don't work on any bluetooth platform, except from the Fire TV.
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How did you open the game control calibrator?

What does that mean?
illuminerdi said:
In theory - yes. It's a bluetooth controller, so unless they did weird protocol stuff like Sony did with the Dualshock 3 it should at least connect. Whether or not your PC sees it as a game controller or not is dependent on whether or not drivers exist for it or if it can use some form of "generic" bluetooth gamepad drivers, if those exist. If there are no drivers then someone will have to write them, though this is not a terribly difficult thing to do, since the drivers just have to read the inputs from the BT stack, then translate them to Xinput calls - pretty simple stuff. Note that I did not say EASY, just simple - an experienced coder/tinkerer could probably make them quickly, but a person lacking knowledge of how to deal with a bluetooth stack or the Direct X interface would have to learn those first.
Do some googling in case someone else has already tackled this subject elsewhere, and if not then consider putting up a bounty for them - as I said, it's quick money for an experienced programmer.
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So can I pair the fire tv controller with my pc using bluetooth or do I need a receiver like with Xbox 360.

Work around for Fire TV Game controller to PC.
You will need the following Apps.
You will also require your phone and Fire TV to be on the same network as your PC.
1, mouse toggle for fire TV ( or any wireless mouse ) (instruction on google play)
2, Droidjoy free (droidjoy pro if you want L2 R2), (instruction on google play)
3, Octopus ( it's on google play, allows overlay controls for droudjoy/all touch games ) (instruction on google play)
4, Easy fire tools ( Also on google play ).
Firstly install Droidjoy on your phone and follow their instructions and YouTube video on how to connect and make your PC think it's a Xbox controller. Once connected try your game of choice and see if you like ( I found Tomb Raider: Underworld has minimal lag time (ms) plays great but Prince of Persia: The forgotten Sands is slightly more but still highly playable. If your happy move to next step.
Step 1
Install all the other apps on your phone and use the Fire TV Tools app to push/install them to your Fire Tv.
Step 2
Open mouse toggle and start the app.
Step 3
Open the octopus app and choose droidjoy app to open. Then select customize, then select Template Standard.
Step 4
Use mouse toggle in mouse mode to click on the octopus icon and overlay the buttons on the Droidjoy App. The back button can be used here but will become redundant for going back on the fire TV ( you will have to use the home button to exit the app ). Recommend setting the back button after all the following steps are done.
Step 5
Close the app by pressing the home button if you have programmed the back button, now reopen Octopus app and select Droudjoy, goto setting and click auto connect to server, press back ( or use mouse toggle in mouse mode ) now click connect you will have to use mouse toggle to click on your PC Server for the first time. Once connected select your template in the game pad section.
Step 6
Try the game controller on your PC it should work perfectly, you are now using your Fire TV as a relay to your PC, some lagging can be caused by having your Bluetooth set to on on your PC.
If you haven't already assign the back button on octopus and if need push Droidjoy pro to you Fire TV if your happy and need L2 & R2.
Good Luck and fun gaming.
If you havnt brought a Fire TV game controller yet Don't, purchase a Xbox one controller v2 ( your PC will need Bluetooth or a separate bluetooth dongle)

Amazon Fire TV Stick and the PS4 Controller

Has anybody else had any luck pairing a PS4 controller with the Amazon Fire TV Stick? I saw that with the Amazon Fire TV you hold share and power, and you can then pair them. On the Stick everything seems to go about the same, except then it says 'Unable to pair' when you select Wireless Controller.

Hey i'm having the same problem. I don't have the Fire TV but have read something similar to what you said. If you figure out a method plz let me know.

Same here
Having the same issue here. Can't seem to figure it out;

Any updates guys?

khb008 said:
Any updates guys?
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I tried sideloading Android's settings.apk - and even then it was a no go. Maybe part of their plan of selling it for $20 was counting on some sales of the $40 controller, so they don't want us using other controllers with it anymore.

Ualdayan said:
I tried sideloading Android's settings.apk - and even then it was a no go. Maybe part of their plan of selling it for $20 was counting on some sales of the $40 controller, so they don't want us using other controllers with it anymore.
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I also tried with the settings apk. My problem was that the controller would not even show up in the Settings.apk Bluetooth menu. On the other hand, it showed up in the Bluetooth controllers options but did not connect.
Other people have had success connecting the Ouya controller thus I think its not that they don't want ANY 3rd party controllers, its just that the Bluetooth driver and/or hardware they're using is different than the Fire TV. Which is really sad because the ONLY reason I bought the Fire TV stick was because I read PS4 controller works out of the box with FireTV.

Same issue for me and I'm really bummed. Any other things to try besides the settings.apk? I have a feeling this is a cut cost hardware issue.

same issue
I have just spoken with amazon and according to them the PS4 controller is not compatible. I too saw an youtube video where someone was able to pair it, if anyone has a solution to this issue please let me know, I really don't want to wait for the playpad pro that is optimazied for amazon since its back ordered

I finally got it to pair, but the performance is pretty terrible, you can see the process here: http://youtu.be/jF3ExA3qzbc (no root required) to keep this from being a 'shameless plug' I'll post the brief instructions, so you can skip the video if you want.
'adb shell' into your fire stick
Get your mac address with this command: settings get secure bluetooth_address
Download and install sixaxisPairToolSetup-0.3.0
Connect your controller via usb to your pc, run the tool, and change the master address to your fire stick's address
Put your dualshock4 in pairing mode and scan for bluetooth controllers with your fire stick
As soon as "wireless controller" shows up on the list DO NOT SELECT IT.
Turn off your controller by holding the (ps) button
Select "wireless controller" on your fire stick
Turn back on the controler
It should now be connected, and it will be greyed out in the list.
if it did not connect try the pairing process again, but this method worked for me on the first try.
[/LIST](the youtube video is more detailed, and has all the links, but with this post and a quick google search, you should be able to find everything you need)
(this is a copy of a redit post I made, but I just put it here, so you can find it as well)

BOBdotEXE said:
I finally got it to pair, but the performance is pretty terrible, you can see the process here: http://youtu.be/jF3ExA3qzbc (no root required) to keep this from being a 'shameless plug' I'll post the brief instructions, so you can skip the video if you want.
'adb shell' into your fire stick
Get your mac address with this command: settings get secure bluetooth_address
Download and install sixaxisPairToolSetup-0.3.0
Connect your controller via usb to your pc, run the tool, and change the master address to your fire stick's address
Put your dualshock4 in pairing mode and scan for bluetooth controllers with your fire stick
As soon as "wireless controller" shows up on the list DO NOT SELECT IT.
Turn off your controller by holding the (ps) button
Select "wireless controller" on your fire stick
Turn back on the controler
It should now be connected, and it will be greyed out in the list.
if it did not connect try the pairing process again, but this method worked for me on the first try.
[/LIST](the youtube video is more detailed, and has all the links, but with this post and a quick google search, you should be able to find everything you need)
(this is a copy of a redit post I made, but I just put it here, so you can find it as well)
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Can this same process be followed for a PS3 remote?

binary01 said:
Can this same process be followed for a PS3 remote?
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I don't believe so, the ds4 acts as a generic bluetooth controller,
the ds3/sixaxis dose not.
but feel free to try, I do not have any with me at the time, so I can not check.

have there been any updates to this? the Settings.apk is not working for me, it closes out when I attempt attach a bluetooth controller. I am trying to connect my ps4 controller through bluetooth for a lag free experience. So far after connecting it I get a ton of lag on the controller.

the steps given by BOBdotEXE in this thread worked for me it even works the main amazon screen too its not working for all games but seems ok with the emulators though

MrWolfman said:
the steps given by BOBdotEXE in this thread worked for me it even works the main amazon screen too its not working for all games but seems ok with the emulators though
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unfortunately according to the link there still is lag when inputting commands (1 month ago), I am hoping someone can find a workaround for the lag issues because games are unplayable through bluetooth using a ps4 controller

rrussell50 said:
unfortunately according to the link there still is lag when inputting commands (1 month ago), I am hoping someone can find a workaround for the lag issues because games are unplayable through bluetooth using a ps4 controller
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my lag isnt that bad at all tbh, i can play sonic 1 no problems, i can play nintendo emulator no problems, i think the lag may be due to the distance from the stick to the controller, my distance is about 2 metres from the stick maybe just over, if you live in a BIG house with over 5 metre distance then yes there would obviously be lag

If you need an alternative controller I have a thread for that Here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/help/aftv2-best-compatible-apps-accessories-t3269267

I haven't managed to get the ds4 paired via Bluetooth as yet but whilst trying I connected it to a powered usb hub which is connected to the stick which is rooted and has OTG enabled.
It worked immediately wired.
As soon as I pulled the cable though the stick rebooted. But if your desperate, rooted and have an OTG cable you can connect your ds4 to you fire stick.
FYI My old wired xbox 360 (afterglow) didn't work when that was connected.

Hello all. Sorry to bump this ancient thread but its the first google result when looking for help. So i had problems using my ps4 controller on my firetv myself as it appears amazon has cut support for game controllers on firetv. Lucky enough there is an easy fix.
Simply download and install Easy Fire Tools onto a smartphone.
Easy Fire Tools - Apps on Google Play
Install your favorite apps on FireTv and other android devices
play.google.com
Then download and install Bluetooth Pair
Bluetooth Pair - Apps on Google Play
Bluetooth pairing - automated. Simply turn on Bluetooth and connect!
play.google.com
Then just sideload Bluetooth Pair app to firetv and use it to connect to game controller.
This method works to where you dont need to pair the remote every time you want to use with firetv. Simply turn on and it will connect.
Cheers!

I'm having the same issue. Although I do not own a Fire TV, I have read something that sounds similar to what you have described. Please let me know if you come up with a solution.

Unable to pair Dualshock 4 to my AFTV ?

Hi,
im trying to pair my dualshock 4 controller to use with the fire tv but its just not having it. I go to controllers > bluetooth controllers
then while it is searching i put the DS4 into pairing mode (PS button + share)
It shows up on the AFTV in the list, i click pair and it is just stuck on pairing...
Has anyone got a DS4 and managed to pair it?

DEREKTROTTER said:
Hi,
im trying to pair my dualshock 4 controller to use with the fire tv but its just not having it. I go to controllers > bluetooth controllers
then while it is searching i put the DS4 into pairing mode (PS button + share)
It shows up on the AFTV in the list, i click pair and it is just stuck on pairing...
Has anyone got a DS4 and managed to pair it?
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Sideload settings.apk and try to get it to pair through that instead of the amazon pairing tool.

Amazon FireTV Remote - Pairing HELP!

Hey!
I can't for the love of god be able to pair my Amazon FireTV Remote, Shield TV does not want to detect it while my macbook detects the remote without any problem.
I hold the "Home button" on the FireTV remote to put it in pairing mode, my macbook detects the fire remote without any problem and the shield never shows it while looking for bluetooth devices...
I tested my bluetooth speaker to see if shield's bluetooth was working and it detected the speaker without any problem, I don't understand why it never "sees" the firetv remote.. any ideias? plz halp!

Hello,
which Version do you like to pair? The Amazon Fire TV 1 or 2 remote? I have a Fire TV 2 Box and i was able to pair the remote with the Shield. The Version 2 is not bluetooth! You have to pair it as original Stuff.
Greetings

Can you use the Amazon Fire TV remote off/on button to turn off or make the Shield sleep?

Turn on does work with every key. But turn off you have to use the shutdown menu. But at this time i use a Logitech Remote + Hub + Flirc.

AndroidDuke17 said:
Hello,
which Version do you like to pair? The Amazon Fire TV 1 or 2 remote? I have a Fire TV 2 Box and i was able to pair the remote with the Shield. The Version 2 is not bluetooth! You have to pair it as original Stuff.
Greetings
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What do you mean by pair it as original stuff? I have a fire tv voice remote 2nd generation and can't seem to pair it with the shield.

BRICK0044 said:
What do you mean by pair it as original stuff? I have a fire tv voice remote 2nd generation and can't seem to pair it with the shield.
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I believe he (or she) means you need to pair it as a Shield accessory rather than as a bluetooth accessory.

mrwookie6379 said:
I believe he (or she) means you need to pair it as a Shield accessory rather than as a bluetooth accessory.
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Absolutely right. The remote 2nd generation is not a bluetooth. You have to pair it as original remote in the menu.
Regards

I have the first generation, it's bluetooth, but the shield doesn't detect it.

efegue said:
I have the first generation, it's bluetooth, but the shield doesn't detect it.
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I had the same Problem. I own a Amazon Fire TV gen1 bluetooth voice remote and I can not connect it with my nvidia shield tv pro.
I hope this is not caused by the firmware update version 352.
Any hint out there? I can not find the ES File Explorer too.
Greetings by Idijt

I didn't have to do any pairing to make it works.
But for few days, voice research doesn't works anymore.

shaun.s said:
Can you use the Amazon Fire TV remote off/on button to turn off or make the Shield sleep?
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Which on/off button?
The Fire TV remote does not have such a button.

I_did_it_just_tmrrow said:
I had the same Problem. I own a Amazon Fire TV gen1 bluetooth voice remote and I can not connect it with my nvidia shield tv pro.
I hope this is not caused by the firmware update version 352.
Any hint out there? I can not find the ES File Explorer too.
Greetings by Idijt
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I have the Amazon Fire TV Gen 1 voice remote too and cannot pair it to my Nvidia Shield TV? It can't see it even though I've tried both ways to put the remote into discovery mode:
1) Hold HOME button for 5-10 seconds
2) Take batteries out and put them back in
I like this remote better because it has all the buttons I actually need to use. I think someone at Nvidia tried to make their remote too simple that it hurt its basic functionality.

Assuming the v1. Voice is anything like the v2 Voice...
You'll need to give it more like 20s! This is also true for the FireTV2 itself. 10s, just isnt nearly long enough.

i have the shield tv (2017) and the firetv4k remote
when trying to pair as shiel accessorie i press the home button for abt 10-20 sec and then i see that the shield moves to the next step of pairing...however after some waiting time it fails and gives a failure message
any idea what else i could try?

snoopy7804 said:
i have the shield tv (2017) and the firetv4k remote
when trying to pair as shiel accessorie i press the home button for abt 10-20 sec and then i see that the shield moves to the next step of pairing...however after some waiting time it fails and gives a failure message
any idea what else i could try?
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I have same issue, it shows Shield controller but then stops process

after the upgrade to nougat i had the same problem... pairing the amazon remote took forever and ended in a failure notice. try to pair the game controller first and than the fire tv remote. after pairing the game controler and orignal shield remote the amazon remote paired just fine.

Anyone found a solution? None of those solution works, amazon fire voice remote worked with my old tv shield, but it won't pair with 2017 model.
It dose show a picture of old shield tv game controller, after a while say faild.

n4r30s said:
Anyone found a solution? None of those solution works, amazon fire voice remote worked with my old tv shield, but it won't pair with 2017 model.
It dose show a picture of old shield tv game controller, after a while say faild.
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Is it possible that this is a Android 7 Nougat bug with bluetooth? I found something similar with a short google query.
At common:
Perhaps there is a chance to use adb or another script to add bluetooth firetv remotes.
I found some adb cpommands but missed the importand ones: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/41594707/adb-shell-bluetooth-commands
This is looking nice too and seems to have some code on github: http://www.londatiga.net/it/program...ally-pair-or-unpair-android-bluetooth-device/
We shoukd be able to find out the mac of the remote on a working FireTV-Device with adb enabled.
I am currently not at home to try it it out, can somebody try it?
Greetings by Idijt

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2nd gen fire tv remote:
voice search was working perfectly till the last update. now it will start searching on button up and down so the results cant be shown because of the new search action
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Dualshock 3/Sixaxis on rooted Sloane?

I am on the latest version of FIre OS (5.2.7.2_r1) and am using a first party PS3 controller, the version with Dualshock and Sixaxis combined
I know this question has been asked and ansered before, but the methods I have tried to use have not worked for me, sadly.
I have tried Using Sixaxis Controller from DancingPixelStudios. I enable and set the IME from a terminal (cannot get a Settings.apk to install) I have set the Bluetooth Master Address both from the USB pairing method built into the app, and with Sixpair on a linux machine (a raspberry pi running the latest version of Raspbian) Stort the server and try to connect, nothing.
I tried the app Sixaxis Enable, which is supposed to connect the DS3 via USB, and I get a message saying that it's not supported.
I found an app called USB/BT Joystick Center. After setting the IME for it and connect my controller via USB, and when I click Search in the app, it finds the Unifying receiver, the powered USB hub I am using (I think) and the PS3 controller. It says that I click on it and it says that it loads a built in keymap or something along those lines, but the controller doesn't work...Maybe I just don't really know how to use the app properly, but so far the help option hasn't actually been much help. It says that if I want to use my PS3 controller over bluetooth, that I will need to connect an external USB Bluetooth Dongle with a CSR chipset (which I don't have)
Something interesting I have noticed, is that I have been getting a pop up request to enter the pin for my controller. I have tried 0000 and 1234, to no avail., Using an app called Bluetooth Settings, I currently have my device set to be fully discoverable and pairable.. What I can take away from this is that my box IS seeing the PS3 controller over bluetooth.
It kinda seems to me like all the methods available to do connect a PS3 controller to the FIre TV are all dead, or I'm doing something wrong, which is more than possible.
So I guess my question is, is there a way nowadays to use my official PS3 controller on my FIre TV? I have no real preferece if it is over USB or Bluetooth. (Unless I have company over Iam usually no further than 5 feet away from the box when I use it) and how do I acheive it if it can still be done?
THank you for the patience!

LazorBlind said:
I am on the latest version of FIre OS (5.2.7.2_r1) and am using a first party PS3 controller, the version with Dualshock and Sixaxis combined
I know this question has been asked and ansered before, but the methods I have tried to use have not worked for me, sadly.
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I feel your pain...
I also had this issue literally tried everything... I moved on and accepted it wasn't going to work, so purchased Bluetooth controllers.. Which would also not pair.. Til I ran a simple command...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/help/guide-pair-undetected-bluetooth-devices-t4023677

CFKod said:
I feel your pain...
I also had this issue literally tried everything... I moved on and accepted it wasn't going to work, so purchased Bluetooth controllers.. Which would also not pair.. Til I ran a simple command...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/help/guide-pair-undetected-bluetooth-devices-t4023677
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Funny enough, I actually just recently found your reddit posts about this while looking for something else. Sadly it did not work for me that I know of.
After running your command via adb, my terminal gave me:
"Result: parcell(00000000 00000001 '........')"
Then I went to the Bluetooth menu, pressed the PS button on my PS3 controller, and tried to discover it as both a game controller, and under Other Bluetooth Devices.
Maybe im not doing something right, or maybe because I have the bluetooth master address in the controller set to the Fire's bluetooth MAC address, the fire thinks it is paired when it is not.
Further help would be appreciated if you know what im doing wrong with that method.
The good news though is that I HAVE discovered (or at least there are no nentions about it that I have seen) a method to use an official ps3 controller over USB, and will post a tutorial sometime in the next 24 hours.

Do you have busybox installed? Try it via the terminal emulator app on the device itself.
Also it sounds like you need to pair it again... In the settings forget the device. Then

CFKod said:
Do you have busybox installed? Try it via the terminal emulator app on the device itself.
Also it sounds like you need to pair it again... In the settings forget the device. Then
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Busybox is installed to /system/xbin
After trying to run the command in the terminal emulator included in Apps2SD Pro, I got the same response from the terminal and I still couldn't detect the controller over bluetooth.