Fire tv + Netflix & Dolby digital plus - Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Anyone else having issues with this? Short story is im not getting DD+ through netflix/amazon, yet will get DTS/DD through xbmc.
Im having issues with dolby digital plus and my fire tv. I have a new LG home theater system BH9530TW. Ive set the firetv audio settings to play dolby digital plus over hdmi and have the firetv plugged into the receiver, the receiver is set to multi channel pcm. When ever i play a netflix or amazon prime movie with 5.1 i get no sound, i have to change it back to stereo for any sound. Ive tested xbmc and get DD and DTS through movies on that, i don't have any DD+ files to test that, im not sure if xbmc will passthrough DD+ anyway.
Taken from the specs of the receiver:
Audio - LPCM
Audio - Dolby Digital
Audio - Dolby Digital Plus
Audio - Dolby TrueHD
Audio - DTS
Audio - DTS-HD High Resolution Audio
Audio - DTS HD-Master Audio
Audio - MPEG 1/2 L2
Audio - MP3
Audio - Audio - ID3 Tag
Audio - MMA
Audio - AAC
Audio - FLAC

Strange, I can confirm that my Onkyo properly plays Dolby Digital + from Amazon and Netflix. I also have no trouble with DD or DTS via XBMC. My FireTV is connected the same way yours is, via HDMI straight to the receiver.

jeebuspwnz said:
Strange, I can confirm that my Onkyo properly plays Dolby Digital + from Amazon and Netflix. I also have no trouble with DD or DTS via XBMC. My FireTV is connected the same way yours is, via HDMI straight to the receiver.
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Damn, i was hoping it was an issue with the firetv lol. Must be a receiver issue, hopefully a firmware update may resolve it in the future. I will test it with an optical cable and see if i can atleast get DD 5.1 out of it that way. The "virtual" surround it produces is extremely good however and i may stick to that yet.

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garvani said:
Damn, i was hoping it was an issue with the firetv lol. Must be a receiver issue, hopefully a firmware update may resolve it in the future. I will test it with an optical cable and see if i can atleast get DD 5.1 out of it that way. The "virtual" surround it produces is extremely good however and i may stick to that yet.
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Is not your receiver, AFTV DD over optical doesn't work.

I have an LG 7540tw home theater and DD+ doesn't work for me too. What I did was set the dolby digital plus setting to Auto for the Fire TV, so now the receiver plays DD 5.1 which is downmixed from the DD+ 5.1 of Netflix thru HDMI, I don't have an optical cable connected from the fireTV to the receiver. There are others with this issue too, but I cant find the amazon forum's link anymore

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I ran in to this with Netflix from a Roku3 via HDMI to a 54" Vizio 5.1 sound bar. All issues with DD+ involve whether or not something in line can decode it. Also, DD+ is HDMI only so Digital Coaxial or Optical won't work either. I came to FireTV as it will output DD via Optical which my soundbar will handle. The Vizio sound bar only is capable of DD and DTS. DD+ results in silence.
To do DD+ you need an AVR that decodes it.
BTW, I do not recommend the Vizio sound bar. It does do rear surround and sub-woofer via bluetooth which works well. The downside is that it has only one HDMI input and supports only DD and DTS. I bought it as I didn't want to drill my new house. By the time I paid $500 for it, $50 for an HDMI switch, and $100 for AFTV I would have been much better off buying a more capable traditional AVR system for much less money.

ars_92 said:
I have an LG 7540tw home theater and DD+ doesn't work for me too. What I did was set the dolby digital plus setting to Auto for the Fire TV, so now the receiver plays DD 5.1 which is downmixed from the DD+ 5.1 of Netflix thru HDMI, I don't have an optical cable connected from the fireTV to the receiver. There are others with this issue too, but I cant find the amazon forum's link anymore
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I will have to give this a try, i would have thought i had already but possibly not. DD5.1 is adequate enough.
To clear things up i have the AFTV connected to the receiver via hdmi in, then receiver connected to my projector via hdmi out. I only mentioend optical as possible alternative.

schneid said:
To do DD+ you need an AVR that decodes it.
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Its not that simple either as my AVR has support for DD+ but ends in silence as well. Theres something weird going on there, im glad im not the only one with the issue.

garvani said:
Its not that simple either as my AVR has support for DD+ but ends in silence as well. Theres something weird going on there, im glad im not the only one with the issue.
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Have you tried another HDMI cable?

garvani said:
Its not that simple either as my AVR has support for DD+ but ends in silence as well. Theres something weird going on there, im glad im not the only one with the issue.
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Maybe I'm missing something, but if you have your AVR set to multi channel PCM, doesn't that assume the FTV will do the decoding (which it can't). Shouldn't you be sending the DD+ as passthrough for the AVR to decode?

bruce7373 said:
Maybe I'm missing something, but if you have your AVR set to multi channel PCM, doesn't that assume the FTV will do the decoding (which it can't). Shouldn't you be sending the DD+ as passthrough for the AVR to decode?
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I agree, FTV decodes nothing. An AVR of some sort that has paid the licensing fee must be in the mix. If the AVR is DD+ rated, I'd take a hard look at the HDMI cables. Don't have to be expensive but do need to be capable of handling the standard being pushed through them.

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How to get HDMI out to work with my AV system?

I want to be able to use the HDMI out on my EVO to view video on my TV.
Here's the problem....I have a Pioneer 50" Kuro which is a display only (no speakers). I have a HD cable box running an HDMI to the Plasma, with an audio cable running to my Receiver. I have a PS3 with an HDMI running to the Plasma, with an optical audio line running to the Receiver. I have an Orb audio 5.1 connected to the Receiver.
Question is...how the heck do I hook up my EVO so it plays audio along with video?
I'm not sure how to go about doing this.
Simple Answer: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00004Z5CP/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=486539851&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B00005T3GH&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=15T6RQK2SHVM3M8M76P3
that would do it. good luck!
Does your tv have an *audio out* on it?
SilverStone641 said:
Simple Answer: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00004Z5CP/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=486539851&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B00005T3GH&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=15T6RQK2SHVM3M8M76P3
that would do it. good luck!
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That would work wouldn't it.......thanks!!
thegame3202 said:
Does your tv have an *audio out* on it?
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Yes it does....but it isn't connected to speakers. The speakers are running threw my receiver.
Connect audio out from tv to receiver and call it a day

[Q] DTS/DD passthrough

Has anyone got this working? This is really my main complaint with this device. Stereo is like so 1980s!
XBMC have DD/DTS passthrough.
I'm using xbmc. Is there a certain test version you use to get it to work?
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I use the one from july 14th. The passthrough is enabled in settings when you select HDMI as output.
Settings - > System - > Audio - > HDMI as output and 5.1 (or more) as number of speakers.
And it actually works? It shows up on mine too, but nothing comes out. I don't recall which version I'm using. I'll check it out later and report back. Thanks.
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I'm using this one http://mirrors.xbmc.org/test-builds...ec63cd-adddroidlibstagefright-armeabi-v7a.apk
But I had it working also with other stagefright versions.
dalamario said:
I'm using this one http://mirrors.xbmc.org/test-builds...ec63cd-adddroidlibstagefright-armeabi-v7a.apk
But I had it working also with other stagefright versions.
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I tried the linked version as well as the latest nightly and test versions. None have worked with DTS for me. I even tried on receivers from 2 different brands. They both do the exact same thing and release this loud noise instead of any sound. Does your receiver actually say DTS on it when playing the files?
Someone got it working on their Onkyo. I've been watching stuff with DTS and DD 5.1 this way on my TX-SR606 for several weeks on XBMC (libstagefright nightly builds). I checked my speakers, it does work.
"Go into Settings > Hardware Setup > HDMI >
Turn Off HDMI Control RIHD
This will now show an option called Audio TV Out (This passes audio to the TV when you don't want to use your speakers)
Turn this on and Voila you now have DD/DTS on every video you play"
This is from the "DTS audio via XBMC possible?" thread on Ouyaforum_dot_com (I can't post links yet).
If that doesn't work on your receiver, there's another (annoying) way: Start playing movie file, turn off receiver, wait a couple of seconds, turn it back on. The DTS or DD audio should light up. Sometimes it takes a couple of tries for it to work. If you pause or stop and replay, you have to do that same power cycling again.
reposter432 said:
Someone got it working on their Onkyo. I've been watching stuff with DTS and DD 5.1 this way on my TX-SR606 for several weeks on XBMC (libstagefright nightly builds). I checked my speakers, it does work.
"Go into Settings > Hardware Setup > HDMI >
Turn Off HDMI Control RIHD
This will now show an option called Audio TV Out (This passes audio to the TV when you don't want to use your speakers)
Turn this on and Voila you now have DD/DTS on every video you play"
This is from the "DTS audio via XBMC possible?" thread on Ouyaforum_dot_com (I can't post links yet).
If that doesn't work on your receiver, there's another (annoying) way: Start playing movie file, turn off receiver, wait a couple of seconds, turn it back on. The DTS or DD audio should light up. Sometimes it takes a couple of tries for it to work. If you pause or stop and replay, you have to do that same power cycling again.
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Ok just got mine to work. I have a Denon and changing my Audio out to TV only stopped any audio for me. What I did was have to go into input setting and change the decode from Auto to to DTS (which stopped the audio) then back to auto and it works for DD and DTS. Turning my receiver off and on and changing channels didn't work either for me.
I tried fast forwarding and once in a while it would kick back to the loud sound and I would have to change it back. Tomorrow I'll watch a whole movie without fast forwarding it and see if it does it randomly or just with occasional FF.
Thanks for the help.
Actually, leaving it on DTS mode works too if you're watching a DTS movie. I have no DD only option, so going back to auto seems to work best for me.
I'm just happy there's hope for this to work automatically in the future. Then I will finally be done with my HTPC! Yay!
Hello guys,
I have a big issue with HDMI passthrough on XBMC on my Ouya. May be (I hope) you can help me :fingers-crossed:
My install is a little bit strange : I have an old audio receiver with no HDMI connector So, I connect my HDMI devices on my TV (Sony KDL-V5500) and use optical output from my TV to my Audio receiver (passthrough) that will decode audio stream.
With all my devices (XBOX, Raspberry Pi and XBMC, Internet provider TV box), it works very well... My TV has sound, and if I want best quality, it is possible to start receiver (and decrease sound on TV).
With my Ouya, sound is not sound but noise... With DD or DTS sound it is the same thing. I tried to stop TV and restart it to reset audio hardware but no way.
An idea ? Is my TV not compliant with HDMI passthrough from my Ouya ?
Thank you for your help...
Guys, playing movies on my ouya was the main reason for me to get it.
I've managed to solve dts issue, but only partly.
Follow these steps:
1. Hookup ouya to amplituner
2. Hookup amplituner to tv
3. Turn everything on, and set hdmi source on amplituner to ouya
4. Make sure hdmi output is set in xbmc settings for sound on ouya and you selected 5.1 speaker config or better
5. Start playing dts movie in xbmc ( it must not be dts-ma hd)
6. You get static in your speakers
7. Turn of amplituner so it switches to pass through mode
8. Wait couple seconds
9. Power on amplituner, so it recreates hdmi handshake with ouya
10. Profit, you have valid hdmi session and dts plays nice
There are some drawbacks.
1. If you pause a movie you have to redo steps 7,8 and 9
2. It doesn't work for dts-ma hd sound
Can someone tell me if dts-ma hd doesn't work because android kernel doesn't support it or for some other reason ?
I googled it A LOT, and found only bits and pieces of information, some say it's android kernel limitation and some say it depends on app I'm using. Anyway I'd like to enjoy all types of sound in my movies.

[Q] Can someone confirm surround sound 5.1 or 7.1 watching movies?

I would like to know if hdmi setting for our Note 2 gives real possibility to use 5.1 or 7.1 surround audio.
That's what I tried. I was connecting it to my LCD TV Sharp LC46x20e using mhl adapter and hdmi cable. Sound was sent from optical output on the TV to my Logitech z5500 speakers.
The audio was pretty good, but unfortunately it wasn't Dolby or DTS (only Prologic surround from the speakers).
So either TV doesn't send correct 5.1 signal to the speakers or my video players (stock Samsung, MX Player and Dice Player) can't send 5.1 signal or Note 2 simply doesn't send 5.1
It would be very helpful for me if someone would be able to confirm any of those statements as I'm thinking of buying something like this to route the sound directly to the speakers without passing it through the TV and in effect achieve true 5.1 surround sound.
Have you tried Setting-->My device--> Accessories-> HDMI-Audio output--> Stereo/Surround option?

fire tv sound issue - no sound via optical

Trying to output sound via optical through a digital to analog converter to use with headphones and or analog speakers, but not getting any sound.
Converter functions as I tested it with my directive receiver and I got sound coming over optical to the speakers so I know it is functioning, but nothing coming out of fire tv either via fire tv itself or via xbmc.
Any ideas on how to get the sound to function? Or am I stuck having to buy a home theater receiver for the task or buy another tv for it.
Currently running it through an old 19" widescreen computer monitor using hdmi to dvi converter which video works fine. still have some things to check and tweak to see how it functions with streaming via nfs over wifi may have to change some settings in advanced settings etc, but that is a side issue. Really don;t want to have to utilize my old apple tv 1 for it, but if necessary I will use it instead of the fire tv.
Fire tv is on last rootable firmware and is rooted.
Please advise if anyone has any insight as to what I can do.

[Q] Surround Sound Support in Kodi

I am using Kodi on my Fire TV and noticed that the movies are only playing in stereo mode. The Dolby settings on the Fire TV itself are set to automatic and trailers play in surround sound. Are there settings in Kodi that need to be modified? Any help is appreciated!
burowyako said:
I am using Kodi on my Fire TV and noticed that the movies are only playing in stereo mode. The Dolby settings on the Fire TV itself are set to automatic and trailers play in surround sound. Are there settings in Kodi that need to be modified? Any help is appreciated!
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Go to the audio output settings in Kodi, and make sure you are on the expert level. Put the number of channels to 2.0, passthrough enabled, and select all the audio formats at the bottom.
Yes I'm struggling getting surround sound as well, have lived with it up until now as usually everything I'm watching says 2.0 stereo, but last night actually found something that said 5.1 and I wasn't getting any sound from that! lol
Have tried different settings (as above) but still no sound through my amp, have only just really started looking into it but nothing worked in all the different guides I tried.
Will hopefully get this sorted soon, there are quite a few settings in the expert mode so will hopefully get round to trying them all, it's just having to go back and forth after changing the set up that's the pain lol
wonneil said:
Yes I'm struggling getting surround sound as well, have lived with it up until now as usually everything I'm watching says 2.0 stereo, but last night actually found something that said 5.1 and I wasn't getting any sound from that! lol
Have tried different settings (as above) but still no sound through my amp, have only just really started looking into it but nothing worked in all the different guides I tried.
Will hopefully get this sorted soon, there are quite a few settings in the expert mode so will hopefully get round to trying them all, it's just having to go back and forth after changing the set up that's the pain lol
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What is your connection to the amp? Is it HDMI, or optical?
lennie paz said:
What is your connection to the amp? Is it HDMI, or optical?
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I have an HDMI connection, when playing a 5.1 video I can see the front left/right speaker icons stuttering on my amp (usually it would show all 5 speakers) and no sound comes through. I suppose it could be the stream but think it's probably my settings...
Is the amp supposed to convert even when playing a 2.0 stream or does it have to be a 5.1? I have always assumed it has to start as 5.1 which is why I've left it until now
wonneil said:
I have an HDMI connection, when playing a 5.1 video I can see the front left/right speaker icons stuttering on my amp (usually it would show all 5 speakers) and no sound comes through. I suppose it could be the stream but think it's probably my settings...
Is the amp supposed to convert even when playing a 2.0 stream or does it have to be a 5.1? I have always assumed it has to start as 5.1 which is why I've left it until now
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Some amps will convert a 2.0 audio stream into a fake 5.1 stream, but it's an actual setting on the amp. Do you have DD audio set to On in the settings for the AFTV? What brand is the amp?
lennie paz said:
Some amps will convert a 2.0 audio stream into a fake 5.1 stream, but it's an actual setting on the amp. Do you have DD audio set to On in the settings for the AFTV? What brand is the amp?
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Yes I've set it to DD Plus via HDMI and have now pretty much tried all the settings in the audio options including 2.0, 5.1 and also (my setup) 7.1 but none seem to work, have also tried changing the Output config, Stereo upmix, Resample quality, Keep audio device alive but nothing is happening, still getting no sound when it displays 5.1 DD on the stream, even tried another episode and the same thing.
My amp is a Sony STR-DA3600ES which is DTS capable but like I say the speaker icons flicker when playing the stream so there's definitely something not quite right
I have never had problems with anything else so think I may have to just give up on this Kodi problem
wonneil said:
Yes I've set it to DD Plus via HDMI and have now pretty much tried all the settings in the audio options including 2.0, 5.1 and also (my setup) 7.1 but none seem to work, have also tried changing the Output config, Stereo upmix, Resample quality, Keep audio device alive but nothing is happening, still getting no sound when it displays 5.1 DD on the stream, even tried another episode and the same thing.
My amp is a Sony STR-DA3600ES which is DTS capable but like I say the speaker icons flicker when playing the stream so there's definitely something not quite right
I have never had problems with anything else so think I may have to just give up on this Kodi problem
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Here are my exact settings, and 5.1 audio plays perfect. If these settings don't work for you, then it might be that the AFTV doesn't play well with your amp when connected with HDMI. I bought a Denon amp a few weeks ago, and no matter what the settings were, I couldn't get 5.1 audio to work. I returned the Denon, and bought a Yamaha, and 5.1 audio plays perfectly. Another thing you can try, is run an optical cable from the AFTV to the Sony, and see if that works. Make sure you go into the AFTV settings and change the audio output from HDMI, to optical. You may also want to try a new HDMI cable.
lennie paz said:
Here are my exact settings, and 5.1 audio plays perfect. If these settings don't work for you, then it might be that the AFTV doesn't play well with your amp when connected with HDMI. I bought a Denon amp a few weeks ago, and no matter what the settings were, I couldn't get 5.1 audio to work. I returned the Denon, and bought a Yamaha, and 5.1 audio plays perfectly. Another thing you can try, is run an optical cable from the AFTV to the Sony, and see if that works. Make sure you go into the AFTV settings and change the audio output from HDMI, to optical. You may also want to try a new HDMI cable.
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Cheers Lennie, I thought about changing the HDMI cable so will definitely try that when I get home, if not will try optical as I didn't even think of that lol
Have tried your settings already (although didn't have the volume on downmix option) with no luck so the cable changes are the only thing left, will let you know how I get on... :good:
I managed to have a look at this last night (after searching various forums) and thought I would try XBMC to see if anything broke in Kodi 14.1, so installed the last Gotham built SPMC (13.4.0) but that had exactly the same results.
Pulled out all my equipment to change the HDMI cable over but that made no difference either, so plugged in an optical cable, changed the audio input on my amp and changed the AFTV to DD over optical and had 5.1 sound straight away :good:
So looks like there's something strange with Kodi/XBMC when trying to get 5.1 surround using HDMI on some amps...
wonneil said:
I managed to have a look at this last night (after searching various forums) and thought I would try XBMC to see if anything broke in Kodi 14.1, so installed the last Gotham built SPMC (13.4.0) but that had exactly the same results.
Pulled out all my equipment to change the HDMI cable over but that made no difference either, so plugged in an optical cable, changed the audio input on my amp and changed the AFTV to DD over optical and had 5.1 sound straight away :good:
So looks like there's something strange with Kodi/XBMC when trying to get 5.1 surround using HDMI on some amps...
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Glad you got it sorted out. Like I said, I bought a new Pioneer a few weeks ago, and couldn't get the audio to work using HDMI. I returned it and bought a Yamaha, and it works perfectly. The only reason I figured it out, was when the audio wasn't working, I took the AFTV and hooked it up to my other home theater setup, and it worked fine with my Denon receiver. The audio was making a really high pitched static sound when using the Pioneer. My Xfinity box's audio worked fine with the Pioneer, so I know it was the AFTV, not the Pioneer, that was the issue.
lennie paz said:
Here are my exact settings, and 5.1 audio plays perfect. If these settings don't work for you, then it might be that the AFTV doesn't play well with your amp when connected with HDMI. I bought a Denon amp a few weeks ago, and no matter what the settings were, I couldn't get 5.1 audio to work. I returned the Denon, and bought a Yamaha, and 5.1 audio plays perfectly. Another thing you can try, is run an optical cable from the AFTV to the Sony, and see if that works. Make sure you go into the AFTV settings and change the audio output from HDMI, to optical. You may also want to try a new HDMI cable.
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Know this is a old thread but hopefully you will reply. Using Kodt why do we have to select 2.0 to get 5.1 surround sound or am I not understanding what you are saying?
lartomar2002 said:
Know this is a old thread but hopefully you will reply. Using Kodt why do we have to select 2.0 to get 5.1 surround sound or am I not understanding what you are saying?
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That's because Passthrough has been enabled, which means your receiver is doing the audio decoding.
Interesting. If I remember correctly I did not have to do that with SPMC Gotham 13.2, strange.
I know this is not the right spot but maybe someone could help me. I just got my shield console and it is sending multi channel audio to my receiver. I DO NOT want multi channel audio i want 2.0 audio. Does anyone know a way to NOT send multi channel audio?
Very helpful thread thanks!
Just a query though...
If I have 'Number of channels' set to 2.0 and have 'Stereo Upmix' on the reciever seems louder and high quality but with vocals coming out of all speakers which to me it should be centre speaker only. But if I have 'Stereo Upmix' off the centre channel is vocal only which to me is perfect but the quality is lower.
Is it just how it is or am I doing something wrong?
Running Fire tv stick (quad core version) running to Onkyo reciever.
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FYI, if you want to keep DTS Passthrough, don't upgrade KODI past 16.1 Jarvis. DTS passthrough is gone in Krypton on AFTV because that "Android" standards require API 23 (Marshmallow/Android 6.0) to "officially" support DTS and AFTV is still on API 22 (FireOS based on Android 5 Lollipop). I don' t see Amazon updating to a Marshmallow based image for FireOS anytime soon. It is a sad day.
Also if you want dts passthrough you can't enable "sync playback to display" otherwise it's going to passthrough as Dolby digital.

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