S-off Benefits. - T-Mobile HTC One (M8)

I'm going to start with an apology if my searching skills aren't that great,but I've searched all around and find nothing.. ok..question...
Can someone name some benefits a user can gain by getting s-off on this device...? I thought unlocked and rooted was enough to flash roms....now I have to get s-off??
Thanks in advance...
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Slicktune said:
I'm going to start with an apology if my searching skills aren't that great,but I've searched all around and find nothing.. ok..question...
Can someone name some benefits a user can gain by getting s-off on this device...? I thought unlocked and rooted was enough to flash roms....now I have to get s-off??
Thanks in advance...
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Edit: You don't need S-Off to flash custom roms/kernels/recoveriers - it's for people that want to tinker at a deeper level.
From what I remember from my DNA days, S-Off removes the security flag on HTC devices and allows you to flash a different h-boot, change the CID - which allows you to flash firmware from different carriers (BE CAREFUL DOING THIS), and remove the "unlocked/tampered" text from the fastboot menu.
Also, check out the 2nd half of the article in this link: http://www.pocketables.com/2013/04/why-you-want-root-and-s-off-on-htc-devices.html
Again, be careful with S-Off. If you ever go back to S-On and have the wrong h-boot or firmware installed I believe it will brick the device.

mcdsmaster8824 said:
Edit: You don't need S-Off to flash custom roms/kernels/recoveriers - it's for people that want to tinker at a deeper level.
From what I remember from my DNA days, S-Off removes the security flag on HTC devices and allows you to flash a different h-boot, change the CID - which allows you to flash firmware from different carriers (BE CAREFUL DOING THIS), and remove the "unlocked/tampered" text from the fastboot menu.
Also, check out the 2nd half of the article in this link: http://www.pocketables.com/2013/04/why-you-want-root-and-s-off-on-htc-devices.html
Again, be careful with S-Off. If you ever go back to S-On and have the wrong h-boot or firmware installed I believe it will brick the device.
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Thanks bro, I have s-on/unlocked but it doesn't say anything about being "tampered" I did notice around the threads that everyone that wanted to convert to gpe or flash a GPE Rom needs s-off?
Thanks in advance
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Slicktune said:
Thanks bro, I have s-on/unlocked but it doesn't say anything about being "tampered" I did notice around the threads that everyone that wanted to convert to gpe or flash a GPE Rom needs s-off?
Thanks in advance
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Well that's new to me. If the developer of the ROM says to have your phone S-OFF then definitely go with their instructions. I haven't seen the S-OFF method on the forums here, but I'm sure a google search will get you to the needed file(s) and instructions. If I remember correctly, actually achieving S-OFF wasn't too complicated/dangerous as long as you're comfortable using adb/fastboot - it's just what you can do to your phone once you've achieved S-OFF that can be dangerous.

Slicktune said:
Thanks bro, I have s-on/unlocked but it doesn't say anything about being "tampered" I did notice around the threads that everyone that wanted to convert to gpe or flash a GPE Rom needs s-off?
Thanks in advance
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If you fully convert to gpe I think you need s-off because you use the ruu. But with an unlocked bootloader, you can just flash the gpe ROM instead of fully converting the phone.
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otariq said:
If you fully convert to gpe I think you need s-off because you use the ruu. But with an unlocked bootloader, you can just flash the gpe ROM instead of fully converting the phone.
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I'm sorry, but I have to ask...what's the benefit of a full gpe conversion? Does it run faster...Will it update if the HTC gpe edition gets updated and will I have trouble with the T-Mobile bands? Thank you so much
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That's exactly why most people do the ruu conversion, when there's an ota they will get the update too as long as you keep the stock Google recovery. Although on my m7 I was able to get ota with twrp. On m7 I kept Google radio and had no problems with T-Mobile. I think it should be the same for m8 since on the play store it says the phone supports T-Mobile. Just go check out the thread for the conversion if you need help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708589
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[Q] Just took the ota update. Is it too late to root my One?

I updated to Kit Kat this morning. What are the necessary steps for me to gain root? I haven't rooted a phone since my Droid X, so I might be out of the loop on some things. Thanks for any help!!!
So why would you take the update before asking this
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You can still root it. If you go into RUU mode, flash one of the older system RUU's, then get s-off before updating. You pretty much gave yourself a **** ton more steps to do it, but yes, you can.
This link has the info to flash back to an older version - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2475216&highlight=s-on
You won't need the s-on / lock part of that, but you will probably need to flash one of those old system images, then use rumrunner to get s-off and unlocked, then you can update to 4.4, then flash a recovery.
Use firewater-soff.com. Use the temp root method.
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ccarr313 said:
You can still root it. If you go into RUU mode, flash one of the older system RUU's, then get s-off before updating. You pretty much gave yourself a **** ton more steps to do it, but yes, you can.
This link has the info to flash back to an older version - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2475216&highlight=s-on
You won't need the s-on / lock part of that, but you will probably need to flash one of those old system images, then use rumrunner to get s-off and unlocked, then you can update to 4.4, then flash a recovery.
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If you are s-on hboot will not allow you to flash an older ruu version than you are currently on (downgrade). So that wont work. But as stated in the post above firewater will get you bootloader unlocked and s-off.
cmlusco said:
If you are s-on hboot will not allow you to flash an older ruu version than you are currently on (downgrade). So that wont work. But as stated in the post above firewater will get you bootloader unlocked and s-off.
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You are totally right, forgot about that feature. Goodluck with firewater. lol
Glad i s-offed and unlocked on original 4.3 lol
I rooted my One yesterday and installed some custom roms...
It was updated to the newest version, so it is possible to root it... easy ^^
disconnecktie said:
Use firewater-soff.com. Use the temp root method.
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So Firewater can achieve S-off with completely stock kit kat? I ask because I just sent my One to be repaired (4.3 S-off) but I have this feeling HTC will update me and possibly return me to S-on.
lancasterv3 said:
So Firewater can achieve S-off with completely stock kit kat? I ask because I just sent my One to be repaired (4.3 S-off) but I have this feeling HTC will update me and possibly return me to S-on.
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It is supposed to work for the newer versions. The worst case scenario is that it won't work.
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disconnecktie said:
It is supposed to work for the newer versions. The worst case scenario is that it won't work.
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Thanks, from what I have read in the S-Off thread the temp. root has in fact been blocked so I do not think this will work unless I am reading it wrong.
lancasterv3 said:
Thanks, from what I have read in the S-Off thread the temp. root has in fact been blocked so I do not think this will work unless I am reading it wrong.
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Yeah I must have missed that. Lots of off topic stuff in there right now. That sucks. Hopefully I don't have to ever send my phone off for repair.
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[Q] about firewater s-off and temp root

well guys i search about it but didnt know what it is
im coming from samsung device and i dont know what does (firewater s-off ) means
so can you please tell what is it? and is it needed to make the htc one m8 rooted and flash roms?
and what is the temproot?
thanks in advance
Galaxy_Guy said:
well guys i search about it but didnt know what it is
im coming from samsung device and i dont know what does (firewater s-off ) means
so can you please tell what is it? and is it needed to make the htc one m8 rooted and flash roms?
and what is the temproot?
thanks in advance
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If you don't know what S-OFF is, then you don't need it...all you need is to unlock the bootloader with HTCDev.com and then flash a custom recovery and then flash a custom ROM (or just root your existing one)
Also, read this...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2711073
EddyOS said:
If you don't know what S-OFF is, then you don't need it...all you need is to unlock the bootloader with HTCDev.com and then flash a custom recovery and then flash a custom ROM (or just root your existing one)
Also, read this...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2711073
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no please i want to know about all the stuff below and i read this thread im not a noob dude
EddyOS said:
If you don't know what S-OFF is, then you don't need it...all you need is to unlock the bootloader with HTCDev.com and then flash a custom recovery and then flash a custom ROM (or just root your existing one)
Also, read this...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2711073
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please answer me
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please answer me
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You said you're not a n00b mate, so I stopped looking...read the S-OFF guide in General on how to attempt to S-OFF your device but you don't need it if you just wanna flash a new ROM
Soff unlocks the whole system to be written or something.
Some mods require this.
You can try temproot before unlocking your device with htcdev.
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Shebee said:
You can try temproot before unlocking your device with htcdev.
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Only if you have a Verizon M8...never heard of it work on any other M8 to date
Shebee said:
Soff unlocks the whole system to be written or something.
Some mods require this.
You can try temproot before unlocking your device with htcdev.
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Can you give an example which mods, when you unlock the bootloader and flash a custom recovery you can push superuser to gain root on your stock rom. Or install any rom you like including mods......they mostly just need root.
S off will allow you to change cid (carrier I'd) of phone, you can make it super cid which will allow you to flash a y firmware you like for any m8 varient.
You will also be able to flash the adsp hk update for hk sound to work fully on models that the normal mod won't work
It will also allow you to switch between GPE and sense so long as you have a ruu image for each
It will also allow you to totally brick your phone if you don't understand what your doing
Better stick to HTC dev unlock as Rom and kernals can be flashed no problem , if it's a sense device GPE, cyan, asop and sense roms should work fine
Only issue you might get is Verizon or other USA specific
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In urgent need of help!

Hello. I have managed to dig myself a seemingly un-escapable hole. I flashed the GPE ROM on to my device, and it tried to update... When it did, it resized a bunch of partitions, upgraded HBOOT, and completely messed up the bootloader, so now I am stuck with a device that refuses to flash anything but CyanogenMod 11 because my /system is too small for any other ROM. My HBOOT version is 3.18.0.0000. I have tried pretty much everything I can think of including RUU... I don't know where to go from here. If anyone has any suggestions, please tell me as I would try anything. Will I just have to wait until we can gain S-OFF for this new HBOOT version so that I can downgrade the HBOOT and get the T-Mobile one back, or just convert the entire thing to GPE?
ColtonDRG said:
Hello. I have managed to dig myself a seemingly un-escapable hole. I flashed the GPE ROM on to my device, and it tried to update... When it did, it resized a bunch of partitions, upgraded HBOOT, and completely messed up the bootloader, so now I am stuck with a device that refuses to flash anything but CyanogenMod 11 because my /system is too small for any other ROM. My HBOOT version is 3.18.0.0000. I have tried pretty much everything I can think of including RUU... I don't know where to go from here. If anyone has any suggestions, please tell me as I would try anything. Will I just have to wait until we can gain S-OFF for this new HBOOT version so that I can downgrade the HBOOT and get the T-Mobile one back, or just convert the entire thing to GPE?
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Try and follow these instructions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2754063
then flash the official 1.57 RUU.
If you are S-OFF you will still be S-OFF.
Tidbits said:
Try and follow these instructions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2754063
then flash the official 1.57 RUU.
If you are S-OFF you will still be S-OFF.
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I already tried that. No dice. It says there is an invalid hboot version.
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Which method are you using?
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Tidbits said:
Which method are you using?
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I used RUU mode to flash all of the different firmware packages, none of them worked. I also can't restore the NANDROID backups because my /system is too small. I tried the RUU as well but it always quit after accepting the license agreement.
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Do you have Norton or similar virus protection? Did you try and run the RUU as admin?
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Tidbits said:
Do you have Norton or similar virus protection? Did you try and run the RUU as admin?
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No. I had no virus protection on that computer at the time. Yes. The computer would not actually let me run it w/o being admin.
The computer was running Windows 7 x86_64. HTC Sync was installed. The phone in RUU mode plugged into a USB 2.0 port.
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Was it possible to change CID just to become unbranded?

Not sure have this being ask before. So,I have bought a Hk version of m8 HTC_622. Was thinking of changing from CID HTC_622 to HTC_044 (my country ) or 001(WWE). Was this process possible? How do I know my m8 is branded? I have downloaded the CID getter from Google play store. Which show HTC_622. My phone does come with some bloat wear like Tvb. But it can be removed or disabled. Any idea guys? Thanks in advance.
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You need to s-off your device then you can change the cid, you need either firewater for that and if it doesn't work you have to use sunshine which costs around 25$ but it will s-off your device for sure...but why changing cid? Shouldn't be that cid a WWE one? Or amercian one? Also if you change the cid to one of the you want you need to install a stock WWE/Europe Rom
One-M8-Master said:
You need to s-off your device then you can change the cid, you need either firewater for that and if it doesn't work you have to use sunshine which costs around 25$ but it will s-off your device for sure...but why changing cid? Shouldn't be that cid a WWE one? Or amercian one? Also if you change the cid to one of the you want you need to install a stock WWE/Europe Rom
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I'm aware of the s off thing, so basically what I need to do is s off, then change CID. Then install the firmware of my choice ? Btw,Do I need custom recovery for flashing some mod over like the Harman kardon mode? After flashing it , I need to flash back to stock recovery just to get ota updates not?
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Steven How said:
I'm aware of the s off thing, so basically what I need to do is s off, then change CID. Then install the firmware of my choice ? Btw,Do I need custom recovery for flashing some mod over like the Harman kardon mode? After flashing it , I need to flash back to stock recovery just to get ota updates not?
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If you flash mods like h/k you might won't be able to get or flash official ota because system files will be changed! And yes for mods you need custom recoveries
One-M8-Master said:
If you flash mods like h/k you might won't be able to get or flash official ota because system files will be changed! And yes for mods you need custom recoveries
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If just changing CID it self would need s off, stock recovery and Wat else do I need to do?
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For changing cid you just need s-off , to get s-off you need root your device, but maybe the newest build of sunshine apk will temp root it. But your device Is a Sprint one right? Because h/k phones are only in US from Sprint. So normally you need to go to one m8 Sprint forum for s-off and all other things because I think if you just change your cid to wwe user Europe one you won't be able to get ota as your stock Rom is a Sprint one but you need then wwe or Europe Rom...
Steven How said:
Not sure have this being ask before. So,I have bought a Hk version of m8 HTC_622. Was thinking of changing from CID HTC_622 to HTC_044 (my country ) or 001(WWE). Was this process possible? How do I know my m8 is branded? I have downloaded the CID getter from Google play store. Which show HTC_622. My phone does come with some bloat wear like Tvb. But it can be removed or disabled. Any idea guys? Thanks in advance.
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My guide should give you some pointers mate, the dev conversion one has alot of stuff relevant to what u need to do
One-M8-Master said:
For changing cid you just need s-off , to get s-off you need root your device, but maybe the newest build of sunshine apk will temp root it. But your device Is a Sprint one right? Because h/k phones are only in US from Sprint. So normally you need to go to one m8 Sprint forum for s-off and all other things because I think if you just change your cid to wwe user Europe one you won't be able to get ota as your stock Rom is a Sprint one but you need then wwe or Europe Rom...
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Ermm I dun think is branded. But the I have done everything including the s off. Changed to 001. So now im downloading a rom from mike which is for HTC 001 stock rooted odexed. Can I just flash it like this? Since I already have twrp recovery s off and unlocked. Btw, what is the tampered logo in fastboot mode?
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Steven How said:
Ermm I dun think is branded. But the I have done everything including the s off. Changed to 001. So now im downloading a rom from mike which is for HTC 001 stock rooted odexed. Can I just flash it like this? Since I already have twrp recovery s off and unlocked. Btw, what is the tampered logo in fastboot mode?
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Ah yes your phone Is Hong Kong one xD sorry so yea you can just download and flash it but if you take the one which is with based on 2.22.401.4 flash the firmware !!! That's really important...Also in general section you can find a tutorial how to removed the tampered flag and also there is a firmware which removes the red text while booting etc
One-M8-Master said:
Ah yes your phone Is Hong Kong one xD sorry so yea you can just download and flash it but if you take the one which is with based on 2.22.401.4 flash the firmware !!! That's really important...Also in general section you can find a tutorial how to removed the tampered flag and also there is a firmware which removes the red text while booting etc
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My phone don't have the red text when booting..Just have the powered by android in black and you shocked me saying mine was a sprint unit as I dun see any sprint bloatware. One more question, if i flash the rom with different Cid, would it cause it to brick or sort?
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Steven How said:
My phone don't have the red text when booting..Just have the powered by android in black and you shocked me saying mine was a sprint unit as I dun see any sprint bloatware. One more question, if i flash the rom with different Cid, would it cause it to brick or sort?
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You won't brick it but it either just wouldn't boot or you can't get any updates but you have the right cid so flashing a stock Rom will be nice
exocetdj said:
My guide should give you some pointers mate, the dev conversion one has alot of stuff relevant to what u need to do
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Thanks man! =D guess I have solved my problem~
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One-M8-Master said:
You won't brick it but it either just wouldn't boot or you can't get any updates but you have the right cid so flashing a stock Rom will be nice
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If I want to flash a mod for the harman kardon. Which set of rom should I get? Odexed or deodexed? From what I heard odexed still can receive ota .Deodex is faster but once wipe cache and dalvik it need to rebuild something again. Am I right?
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Steven How said:
Thanks man! =D guess I have solved my problem~
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Yes i hope so mate the guide is to change any gsm phone to dev edition but the principles are the same from HK to international edition
It will work providing your m8 is GSM :good:
Steven How said:
If I want to flash a mod for the harman kardon. Which set of rom should I get? Odexed or deodexed? From what I heard odexed still can receive ota .Deodex is faster but once wipe cache and dalvik it need to rebuild something again. Am I right?
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Always if you wipe dalvik cache it will rebuild it, and you need deodexed one, but if you flash h/k you still receive but can't flash newer ota due to changed system files
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Always if you wipe dalvik cache it will rebuild it, and you need deodexed one, but if you flash h/k you still receive but can't flash newer ota due to changed system files
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Ah, that clarifies everything. Thanks man. Really appreciate your help and guide.
exocetdj said:
Yes i hope so mate the guide is to change any gsm phone to dev edition but the principles are the same from HK to international edition
It will work providing your m8 is GSM :good:
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Ya, thanks man! Gonna enjoy my m8 XD
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Steven How said:
Ah, that clarifies everything. Thanks man. Really appreciate your help and guide.
Ya, thanks man! Gonna enjoy my m8 XD
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GO GO GO!!!! HEHEHE :good:

Htc noob basics rundown

Hi guys, so as it states im new to htc, ive only in the past 2 years been an android user and i owned sammy devices, so the change is a little overwhelming, s-off hboot, and other things that seem to be important to flashing are a mystery to me so any help would be awesome, and sorry if there was already a thread explaining all this
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LiLPurP said:
Hi guys, so as it states im new to htc, ive only in the past 2 years been an android user and i owned sammy devices, so the change is a little overwhelming, s-off hboot, and other things that seem to be important to flashing are a mystery to me so any help would be awesome, and sorry if there was already a thread explaining all this
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This should give u some pointers
If firewater does not work for your device go to the sunshine thread here
Should be all u need to unlock, root and s off and install custom recovery, then u can install roms etc.
Also any help requests belong in q&A section
shout me if u need help
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I have asked mods to move into Q&A mate
Lots of the basic terms explained well here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52484527
Don't feel too overwhelmed, every manufacturer has their own idiosyncrasies. There is always a learning curve if you switch or buy a new brand device. Just stick with it, be patient and read up.
Thanks, im getting a little confused but its geting clear for me, heres a question, when i press and hold my home button, a pie type menu comes up, but only has google in it, ive looked everywhere, and i cant find how to set up shortcuts for this, anyone have any clues?
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Thanks, im getting a little confused but its geting clear for me, heres a question, when i press and hold my home button, a pie type menu comes up, but only has google in it, ive looked everywhere, and i cant find how to set up shortcuts for this, anyone have any clues?
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That is google now. You cannot change it on sense roms to my knowledge. GPE you can used xposed and gravity box to create new "ring" shortcuts.
Thanks, ive actually been looking into the GPE ROM but not sure if i would need S-Off to use it, (S-Off is still kinda confusing) ive tried to use firewater but got a whelp error saying my device wouldnt work, and from my understanding, SunShine is the only thing that can give me S-Off, i will be doing this as soon as i have the 25 bucks to spend lol, id rather have it and not need it rather than need it and not have it
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You can flash gpe Rom. Just don't try ruu convert guide. Get soff while you can. You can do all sorts of stuff plus it lets you easily recover from most bricks.
Btw. Don't use toolkits. Learn adb and fastboot commands. They are easy and will make your life a lot easier.
an0ther said:
You can flash gpe Rom. Just don't try ruu convert guide. Get soff while you can. You can do all sorts of stuff plus it lets you easily recover from most bricks.
Btw. Don't use toolkits. Learn adb and fastboot commands. They are easy and will make your life a lot easier.
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I have small amounts of knowledge with adb, i unlocked using htcdev so adb was required, however not sure what you mean by toolkits, you mean like firewater or sunshine? And i will s off asap, but if i wait to long will i lose the privilege? And i haven't read about this ruu conveet guide, what is that if i may ask? And thanks for all the help guys
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I have small amounts of knowledge with adb, i unlocked using htcdev so adb was required, however not sure what you mean by toolkits, you mean like firewater or sunshine? And i will s off asap, but if i wait to long will i lose the privilege? And i haven't read about this ruu conveet guide, what is that if i may ask? And thanks for all the help guys
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No. Firewater and sunshine are tools for soff. Those are fine. Toolkits flash recoveries, unlock bootlader etc... It's good you did it the manual way. And yes HTC will patch soff method in next update. Ruu are restore files kinda like tar and Odin on your Samsung devices. You can only run one that is made for your device... Unless you have soff. You can truly convert your m8 into any m8 variant. No advantages over just flashing a Rom. But with soff you can upgrade and downgrade firmware and radios. You can remove tampered and red hboot text. You can manualy perform updates with no need to lock bootlader. It gives you full flexibility of the phone.
Once you have soff they can't ever take it away.
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No. Firewater and sunshine are tools for soff. Those are fine. Toolkits flash recoveries, unlock bootlader etc... It's good you did it the manual way. And yes HTC will patch soff method in next update. Ruu are restore files kinda like tar and Odin on your Samsung devices. You can only run one that is made for your device... Unless you have soff. You can truly convert your m8 into any m8 variant. No advantages over just flashing a Rom. But with soff you can upgrade and downgrade firmware and radios. You can remove tampered and red hboot text. You can manualy perform updates with no need to lock bootlader. It gives you full flexibility of the phone.
Once you have soff they can't ever take it away.
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Is there anyway i can block that update from htc? And i have downloaded the liquidsmooth rom 4.4.4 and gapps 4.4.4, now am i ok to flash this?
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LiLPurP said:
Is there anyway i can block that update from htc? And i have downloaded the liquidsmooth rom 4.4.4 and gapps 4.4.4, now am i ok to flash this?
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As long as your running a Rom no update will be applied. Backup stock before flashing anything! So many people don't do this for some reason. You can flash it if you want. Aosp is still a little buggy on the m8. I would recommend gpe over aosp for now but it's up to you. There are some good sense roms too. I wouldn't flash any aosp without soff. Just in case. I've had aosp soft brick when I try to flash another Rom after it before.
an0ther said:
As long as your running a Rom no update will be applied. Backup stock before flashing anything! So many people don't do this for some reason. You can flash it if you want. Aosp is still a little buggy on the m8. I would recommend gpe over aosp for now but it's up to you. There are some good sense roms too. I wouldn't flash any aosp without soff. Just in case. I've had aosp soft brick when I try to flash another Rom after it before.
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Awesome thanks for the advice, guess that download wont be used for now, do you have any recommendations on roms? I have the att version if that makes a difference. And yea i made a backup in TWRP as soon as i unlocked the bootloader. I want to start slow and learn as i go, i will most likely pay the 25 for the sunshine app to s-off tomorrow, i got the phone about 3 days ago so i want it custom while i have the chance lol seems android is starting to be less open source every time i get a new phone
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an0ther said:
No. Firewater and sunshine are tools for soff. Those are fine. Toolkits flash recoveries, unlock bootlader etc... It's good you did it the manual way. And yes HTC will patch soff method in next update. Ruu are restore files kinda like tar and Odin on your Samsung devices. You can only run one that is made for your device... Unless you have soff. You can truly convert your m8 into any m8 variant. No advantages over just flashing a Rom. But with soff you can upgrade and downgrade firmware and radios. You can remove tampered and red hboot text. You can manualy perform updates with no need to lock bootlader. It gives you full flexibility of the phone.
Once you have soff they can't ever take it away.
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If you paid for sunshine it will always work not like Firewater...even if it's patched or not
One-M8-Master said:
If you paid for sunshine it will always work not like Firewater...even if it's patched or not
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Well i have tried firewater, and it said no amount of flashing, ruu, ect will make it work, so i assume that means SunShine is my only option. And has anyone used the Android Revolution HD ROM, ive been looking and it has awesome features
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LiLPurP said:
Well i have tried firewater, and it said no amount of flashing, ruu, ect will make it work, so i assume that means SunShine is my only option. And has anyone used the Android Revolution HD ROM, ive been looking and it has awesome features
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ARHD is as close to stock as you can find. But this is a matter of preference. There are many ROMs to choose from and only after you test them, you can decide what suits you best.
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ARHD is as close to stock as you can find. But this is a matter of preference. There are many ROMs to choose from and only after you test them, you can decide what suits you best.
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Yea near stock is good for me as im used to touchwiz, so id like to learn the sense system before switching around, i just dont want to make a stupid move that could have been avoided with research, but im also a very impatient person lol ok well i guess ill be flashing that tomorrow after i run sunshine. I used App2Zip to backup apps on my gs4, will this work on my m8 aas well? I find titanium backup a bit flashy for me, i need a simple user apps backup and that app works perfect
*HTC One M8 AT&T,Android Version 4.4.2, Unlocked with htcdev.com, Rooted, TWRP installed, Stock ROM with Xposed Framework
*Galaxy S4 AT&T, Android Version 4.3, rooted with SafeRoot, Safestrap 3.71 installed, Stock ROM
Ok so i will be using the sunshine app today (around 12-1 o'clock) to S-Off my m8. Ive noticed talk off WWE, and ppl discusing changing their HBOOT, and im curious if this is important? After i S-Off my device i will be flashing ARHD ROM (later tonight) as this will be my first ROM flash on this phone, im extreamly nervous. Ive made a nandroid backuo in TWRP. I just want to make sure ive covered everything, nobody like a $600 brick and considering i owe my mother-in-law for this phone, id like all to go smooth as i dont want to die lol. So guys any more advice? And other than a nandroid backup, is there any other way to cover my butt just in case?
*HTC One M8 AT&T,Android Version 4.4.2, Unlocked with htcdev.com, Rooted, TWRP installed, Stock ROM with Xposed Framework
*Galaxy S4 AT&T, Android Version 4.3, rooted with SafeRoot, Safestrap 3.71 installed, Stock ROM
LiLPurP said:
Ive noticed talk off WWE, and ppl discusing changing their HBOOT, and im curious if this is important? After i S-Off my device i will be flashing ARHD ROM (later tonight)
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WWE = world wide English
Changing hboot is often not needed just to flash ROMs. However Android 4.4.3 (HTC software 2.22) based ROMs (ARHD 10.2 is one) happens to be an excepton; as you will need to flash what is known around here as the "firmware package" which includes hboot, radio, and other things. If you don't flash the firmware, you will likely get some serious bugs on 2.22 ROMs, including long boot times, as well as broken WiFi and Bluetooth.
You can find the process for flashing firmware below. I used this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-htc-one-m8/development/att-4-4-3-2-22-1540-3-debloated-sense-6-t2837365
And specifically in the ARHD thread here also (note that for the AT&T version, firmware 2.22.1540 is recommended as you might get NO SERVICE on the international firmware): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54408500&postcount=9592
Be very careful you understand the process, as flashing hboot or radio is one of the few ways to actually brick the phone.
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LiLPurP said:
as this will be my first ROM flash on this phone, im extreamly nervous.
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Just flashing a ROM is actually not that risky (although flashing hboot or radio can be, as mentioned). Its actually pretty hard to brick this phone just flashing a ROM, as long as you make sure to only flash ROMs or other mods only meant for the M8 (GSM).
Just be sure not to flash anything meant for other devices (including the Verizon or Spring M8) as you can actually brick the phone this way if the partitioning is different, and you overwrite any critical partitions such as hboot, radio, or the partition table.
If you stick to the correct ROMs, usually the worst that can happen is a boot loop or failure to boot into the OS (phone stuck at boot screen). But if that happens, its usually not that hard to recover. There can be various reasons and different corresponding solutions. But usually reverting to nandroid, flashing a different ROM, or re-installing recovery (and flashing the ROM again) will fix you up.
Although, nervous is a good thing to be; as it will also mean you will be careful. Which is really half the battle.
Ok guys i have gained S-Off on my device, just a quick rundown, and correct me where needed
1. S-Off is not required for rom changing, but helps
2. I have 4.4.2, any rom that has a different version than this you must first flash the firmware package first, and this can only be done in fastbootusb (if step is skipped can expect lots of errors or bootloops)
3. WWE just means roms from america? (Doesnt seem correct)
4. Changing HBOOT is not required for changing roms, unless the rom calls for it
5. Other than the android version, there is a htc version on the phone as well?
This is kind of overwhelming so far, and im not the best at instruction manuals, im more of a visual learner. And it helps when things are explained in detail, for example, explaining that i need a firmware package helps, but why do i need it, the more i understand the better i can make my decisions. And thanks guys, this is huge help, ive always come to xda for help, this free community works better and quicker than anything ive tried
*HTC One M8 AT&T, Android Version 4.4.2, Unlocked with htcdev.com, Rooted, S-Off, TWRP installed, Stock ROM with Xposed Framework (Current Device)
*Galaxy S4 AT&T, Android Version 4.3, rooted with SafeRoot, Safestrap 3.71 installed, Stock ROM (Girlfriends Device)
Downloaded the unmodified 2.22.1540.3.zip firmware, this is the correct firmware for my AT&T M8 right?
And if im right ill:
1. adb and flash the firmware twice to be safe, then reboot the phone
2. adb flash TWRP recovery, then reflash supersu in TWRP to regain root access
3. Then flash the ARHD 10.1 ROM?
*HTC One M8 AT&T, Android Version 4.4.2, Unlocked with htcdev.com, Rooted, S-Off, TWRP installed, Stock ROM with Xposed Framework (Current Device)
*Galaxy S4 AT&T, Android Version 4.3, rooted with SafeRoot, Safestrap 3.71 installed, Stock ROM (Girlfriends Device)

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