Screen size comparison pic - T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3

Just sharing a pic I drew up to help a friend understand the difference between bezel size and screen size.
Most people don't even think about the bezel size.
HTC's "One" phone is pretty awful about bezel size, though they do make up for it by having very nice (for a mobile) speakers on the bottom bezel.
The Sony below has disgustingly large bezels.
You can make your own size comparo's here:
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/size
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That's why I love Samsung

CZ Eddie said:
Just sharing a pic I drew up to help a friend understand the difference between bezel size and screen size.
Most people don't even think about the bezel size.
HTC's "One" phone is pretty awful about bezel size, though they do make up for it by having very nice (for a mobile) speakers on the bottom bezel.
The Sony below has disgustingly large bezels.
You can make your own size comparo's here:
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/size
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I like Sony

The bezels in sony's unit makes me hesitate to buy it,

Lorettaa said:
The bezels in sony's unit makes me hesitate to buy it,
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But I like it and I am comfortable with it.

Sony is awful. iPhone's icons are bigger than Sony's.

Specs are good but lacking in design.

Acaibowl said:
Sony is awful. iPhone's icons are bigger than Sony's.
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I respectfully disagree. I think the stock display density is completely absurd. we have 1080x1920 screens, that's ~2 megpixels. There's no reason to display nearly the same amount of data (app, icons, text, etc) on screen as 480x800 (0.3 megapixels)...hell, even twice the data is wasting pixels.
Of course this is a matter of preference and not everyone has the same eyesight.
All said, I set my display density to 360 (stock is 480)...on my S2 I set it to 160 (stock was 240)...and everything is perfectly readable to me...still crystal clear and smooth fonts. It's all roughly iphone 4 scale...but I get way more stuff on my screen.
Also, at stock settings people across the room can read my screen, especially on mobile sites (which, admittedly, aren't helped much by changing the DPI).
Just my $0.02, to each his own, YMMV, IMHO, etc.
EDIT: I just tried out DPI @ 320. I'm digging it. Pulling down the notification bar is a little tricky with this behemoth Otterbox, but, I can live with that. Every is still smooth and clear.

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T9 Multi tap Input?

Does anyone know if this is supported (old style 'real keys' texting)?
Like the image in this site (5th one down).
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I've never had an Android phone before so I don't know if it's QWERTY only, many thanks for the help!
I have done a search but can't find anything, plus for some reason the XDA side goes a bit 'wonky' on my work computer (links/image/searches` not showing).
You get 3 Options (much like on windows mobile) :
1) Full QWERTY (which works absolutely great btw)
2) Mini QWERTY (like on the blackberrys)
3) Keypad/T9
I would highly recommend the swype keyboard.
As a G1 owner I was convinced I wasn't going to get a phone without a real keyboard untill I used it - and it's only because I find it so easy to use, and fast, that I am now going to upgrade to the Desire.
See I went from a 'normal' phone to the X1 so I'm used to a 'really' keyboard or T9 multi tap and was worried about not being able to text correctly!
The other question I have (not really related to the keyboard) is about the resolution difference between the Desire and the Legend.
I prefer the look of the Legend and it's size however after having an x1 with it's high resolution (though tiny 3" screen) I'm worried that I would find the Legends lower resolution inferior to the x1, which had naturally lead me to the Desire, however I'm concerned about the overall size.
What do you guys think, does HVGA look rubbish on a 3.2" screen or is it fine compared to the like of the Sony Ericssons x1 3" WVGA?!?
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...What do you guys think, does HVGA look rubbish on a 3.2" screen or is it fine compared to the like of the Sony Ericssons x1 3" WVGA?!?
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Obviously, the pixel density is significantly higher on the X1 compared to the Legend so you will notice a difference. I suppose the best thing for you to do is to go to a store and play with the Hero which has the same screen size and resolution. See if that's ok with you. Keep in mind that the Legend's screen will be supposedly crisper due to the AMOLED.
Personally, I think the pixel density on the Legend/Hero is fine. This is coming from someone who's used to high pixel density of the Diamond and Touch Pro2.
Many thanks for coming back to me, I might nip into a shop when the phones are out. The only problem is that I live in Northern Ireland and sometimes it's hard to find a shop which sells 'smart' phones, it's usually just iphones and nokias!

If MSFT was smart enough, wud it b better to use 16:9 size as the scr spec standard?

If Microsoft was smart enough, would it be GREAT to use 16:9 size as the original device specification screen standard?
When I say 16:9, I mean 480*854 instead of 480*800.
I'm not talkin abt high res scr, like 720p or so.
I'm talking about scr ratio.
Guys what du think?
As I c, all the Metro UI on Windows Phone 7.5 is using vertical display MUCH MORE than horizontal display.
Luk at the start screen, the row4 tiles bottom r being cut out... guys do u think 6 tiles is enough to display essential info? What if u hav 10 tiles?? on the first glance!!!! w/o scrolling, man!!!
Luk at the applist, no horizontal arrangement, which means it's amazing to have the extra 54 pixels?! wud it be more elegent?
luk at Office Hub and People Hub, I hav totally no idea Y Microsoft cancel the plan of general use of hardware Search Button, it's fine, cuz it's make no confusion to users any longer, on the matter "when can users use search", but the problem is, it took the VALUABLE vertical space!! Damned!!
If u guys compare WP7 & WP7.5, u will c how pathetic Microsoft Designer is trying to ruin a Perfect Design!
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The UI was once like dis, but guys luk at your People Hub today, on Mango, I can hardly c the second contact!! Is dis studpid??
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Shorthand on a tech blog is stupid. Please attempt something closer to English. I'm no grammar nazi, but talking technical using "lyk" and "wud" is stupid.
And the English Language wept.
The 5:3 aspect ratio could be preserved for future specification bumps. A 1280 X 768 4+ inch (diagonal) display is not impossible.
I am going to guess that this is because most phones during Windows Phone development uses WVGA. FWVGA hasn't been use much in mobile phones until recently.
One of the most interesting thing to watch for in the future is how Windows Phone will deal with different resolution and whether it will maintain the same aspect ratio.
Well, I think the screen is fine, they should just tighten up the interface a litte.
i.e. the headers/tabs on pivot and panorama pages take up too much space.
the people hub for example, in the contact list I have a huge piece of text "people" on top, plus the letter category thing.
This would be just fine if they disappeared when I scroll down, but they stay glued to the top, wasting 1/3 of the screen with useless information.
If I really need to be reminded that I'm in the people hub, a tiny label at the very top would more than do the job.
Thanks for saving on the letters by using shorthand. I am running out of pixels on my laptop. That reminds me! I need to stop by BestBuy tomorrow morning and buy some more pixels!
the contacts arent visible in mango because mango added groups to the people hub, not because MS wants to ruin the design

just ruined my one x screen due to flex issue.

Ok here's a warning to all of you, the edges of the screen are very sensitive to pressure I noticed the other day light pressure on the edge of the bezel would make my screen discolored, I just took my phone out of my pocket now and I have a yellow vertical band down the right hand side of my screen, I'm guessing my phone squeezed in my pocket when I got in the car for work this morning, just a warning to everyone be ultra gentle with your screens. :-( not happy.
having tested and unboxed over 15 HOXes
i can confirm to you some of them ripple under light pressure, some under some effort and few impossible to ripple
the ripple is a sign of imperfect screen lamination, if your's was very sensitive to begin with than it was defected out of box and hence the damage you have now
out of the 15 i tried, only one of them that my cousin own is completely ripple free no matter how hard you push
the one im talking about feels completely different to the rest, its extremely rigid on both left and right sides with such a tight gap that no dust can get it, like i said it has been an impossible task for me to find another one like it, this one is also perfectly clean and even on whites when viewed at every angle, ie: its lamination is flawless, early HT23 white
something is seriously messed with HTC screen fitting and its only time before more and more cases like this will appear
This phone gets better by the day...
Might dump it on ebay and .....
This is rediculous.... somone with money and power DO SOMETHING!!!!
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The glass is pretty fragile anyway TBH. Mine has been in a pocket on it's own and still managed to become scratched after a week, whereas my last iPhone 4 went about two years without getting a mark on either side!
HaTeC said:
This phone gets better by the day...
Might dump it on ebay and **** it all to hell.
This is rediculous.... somone with money and power DO SOMETHING!!!!
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You should get a Samsung device, I here each of their displays are identically perfect. Seriously, I've never seen a mobile device forum where there weren't a percentage of complaints about the display. You can't build millions and have every unit perfect. Google "iPad/iPhone display issues" and you'll see no one's immune.
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/08/t-mobile-galaxy-s-ii-screen-issues-have-some-seeing-poorly-rend/
BarryH_GEG said:
You should get a Samsung device, I here each of their displays are identically perfect. Seriously, I've never seen a mobile device forum where there weren't a percentage of complaints about the display. You can't build millions and have every unit perfect. Google "iPad/iPhone display issues" and you'll see no one's immune.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/08/t-mobile-galaxy-s-ii-screen-issues-have-some-seeing-poorly-rend/
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Thats the good thing about being able to manufacture your own screens and not have to rely on 3rd parties I suppose. Imagine being able to buy a HTC phone with a Samsung screen in it! Minus all the Hardware issues too!
Oh wait, were you being sarcastic!?!? lol

[Q] About those viewing angles...

Hi to all
I'm pretty new to the tablet market and I just bought the note 10.1 2014. I'm in my first 14 days where I can exchange/return my tablet and I want to make sure everything is ok with my stuff.
I've read countless online reviews before making my choice and, as you all know, one of the strongest aspect of the note 10.1 2014 is the display. Most if not everybody is praising the resolution, the colors, minimal color shifting, brightness and the viewing angles. Now, I want to make sure my understanding of lcd displays/viewing angles is good.
My tablet's display is gorgeous... when I look at it straight at it. I have the minimal light bleed on the edge which only shows on black and has 0 impact on colors which I'm ok with (all demos in stores are the same so...) As soon as I tilt the tablet though (vertically or horizontally), colors become very dull. Actually, colors do not shift but everything becomes dimmer/duller. Now, I suspect this is normal behavior from a backlit LCD but still, I keep reading reviews stating the display is gorgeous and bright even from an angle which is not 100% right for mine. I've tried to look at videos/pictures online but most people doing reviews actually setup a camera right in front of the tablet and barely move it once it's turned on so it's not helping me. So when you guys are saying the tablet's display stays vivid and colorful from every angle, are you getting the same kind of behavior my tablet has and are not talking about this because this is normal behavior for an LCD display or is my tablet's display defective?
Thank you very much in advance for your cooperation. If needed, I could take pictures.
Merranza said:
Now, I suspect this is normal behavior from a backlit LCD but still, I keep reading reviews stating the display is gorgeous and bright even from an angle which is not 100% right for mine.
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As is typical of the Samsung displays, the viewing angle stability is great. The colors remain stable regardless of the viewing angle and we did not note any great loss in brightness.
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Thank you very much for your reply. Well, I guess my tablet's screen is pretty similar to the test unit provided in the review. My definition of stable brightness and colors is pretty different from the behavior of that display But to know my screen behaves normally compared to other tablets is good to know.
Just enjoy this tablet..Don't spend hours looking for problems that arent there. This tablet is wonderful , I have had mine since December with no issues at all. I'm rooted with tons of stuff on mine. Most of the problems I have been reading about are people with way too much time on their hands. Have a beer , and love your tablet!!
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Don't get me wrong here, maybe I did put too much emphasis on the display and I'm sorry about this. I love my tablet too. I'm just discovering the power of the tablet and the S-Pen, the integration is pretty amazing.
Cheers

Question Questions about Fold 3

Hi there, I've been waiting for the S22 unveil to see if it has a notch or not, and unfortunately for me, it does. So I'm now looking into the Fold 3, but I haven't got one in my hands yet, all I know is from pictures on the internet. A couple of questions I have, how noticeable is the camera hidden behind the screen? And, how noticeable is the crevice in the middle of the fold screen after a few months of use?
It's a lower res part of the screen (when opened) over the camera but to me it's not noticable
do you really disregard specs and choose your phones based on the notch? if so, there are phones without any notch at all like Asus phones.
Back to your question, you barely notice the notch when you're using the inner display. Actually you don't notice it most of the time because of the immersive experience
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Hi there, I've been waiting for the S22 unveil to see if it has a notch or not, and unfortunately for me, it does. So I'm now looking into the Fold 3, but I haven't got one in my hands yet, all I know is from pictures on the internet. A couple of questions I have, how noticeable is the camera hidden behind the screen? And, how noticeable is the crevice in the middle of the fold screen after a few months of use?
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100% they did a good job at hiding the camera on the inside screen. You have to look for it in order to notice it. All your screen activity plays over the camera hole. So while I'm writing this it is currently the exact same grey as the rest of my notification bar. If I'm watching a YouTube video. Don't ever see it.
It looks like dot pattern circle, but it's not a big deal, to be honest.
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Unless you know where and what to look for, you won't notice the camera notch and it it much better then punch hole. As for the crease in the middle, as long as the screen is in front of you, you won't even see it. For me it is much more bother to the finger then to the eye. Any way if you're into foldable, you wouldn't care about these.
I've had the Z Fold 3 for a couple of weeks now. While the underscreen camera is noticeable, it is much better than having a holepunch in your display. The crease is noticeable from certain angles, but once you are using the Z Fold 3. You will start to notice it less. These are all my perspectives of the Z Fold 3 for now

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