Why do launchers kill Sense widgets ? - One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I just got my M8 recently, love this phone Rooted it, and installed InsertCoin ROM, battery life is off the charts excellent, almost as good as my old Note 2. Anyways, I tried the stock launcher for a few days, and it's very smooth and fast, but missing very important features I have gotten so used to with Nova Launcher, and I am shocked these type of settings just aren't baked into the Android OS by default already;
#1: Custom grid size, I typically go 5 x 5, and sometimes 4 x 6, but NEVER the default 4 x 4 size, and I don't understand why Android sticks with 4 x 4 as the default grid pattern with 5" + screen phones being the norm now ? Why isn't grid size an option in the system settings on all Androids phones now ?
#2: Swipe screen controls, I always use the swipe down anywhere on screen to pull the notification shade down. So I don't have to reach all the way up to the top and pull down, I can just swipe down anywhere on the screen, and that will pull the notification shade down.
But by adding a Launcher, I use the Sense widgets :crying: I never understood that one. Why would the widgets disappear as an option, but all other widgets are still there. With Google and even HTC putting some apps on the Play Store, why doesn't HTC put the Sense 6 Clock and Weather widget up on the Store, and the Calender Widget. But it totally sucks I lose some of those really cool Sense features by going to a different launcher, and I think some of these launcher features should be part of the OS by default anyways. Why isn't adjusting the grid size a standard option yet in the OS ?
So, how many of you either run stock Sense, or install a different launcher ?

Maybe it's because those things are a trademark of HTC and giving them to everybody would dilute their brand.
And you can use Sense x Toolbox (6 due very soon) to change grid size if you're rooted and with xposed.

BenPope said:
Maybe it's because those things are a trademark of HTC and giving them to everybody would dilute their brand.
And you can use Sense x Toolbox (6 due very soon) to change grid size if you're rooted and with xposed.
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Ok thanks. Where can I download this Sense X Toolbox ? I looked on the PlayStore not there, is it an .apk I install ? And then I also need to install Xposed framework too ?

Well, it's Sense 5 Toolbox for Sense 5 and Sense 6 Toolbox for Sense 6 (not released yet).
You can get it through xposed or the Android Revolution thread (probably second post).

BenPope said:
Well, it's Sense 5 Toolbox for Sense 5 and Sense 6 Toolbox for Sense 6 (not released yet).
You can get it through xposed or the Android Revolution thread (probably second post).
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Can I just install xPosed on my One M8 that is rooted and play with that ? Or must I have this Sense Toolbox thing too ? And I am guessing Sense 5 Toolbox is not for our M8, but only for the older m7 ? So do I need to wait for the Sense 6 toolbox to be released before even using xPosed ? Or I think I read about an alpha version of Sense 6 toolbox ?

Excuse me, it's sometimes hard to keep up with which device forum I'm in.
xposed is a framework for creating mods, it's does nothing on it's own.
The alpha version does everything I want it to, but I haven't tried the grids, I don't expect it to work properly due to the softkeys. I expect it to be released around this weekend. If you can find the spreadsheet, you can check what works.
Or there might be another xposed mod that will work.

Here is the Sense 6 Toolbox thread, which includes a Google spreadsheet explaining which things work on HTC One M8. I've used it on Sprint M8 and seems good so far.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2705270

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[REQUEST] Is there away to have launcher pro but still have htc sense??

s there away to have launcher pro but still have htc sense?And with the widgets?
yes you can swicth between both
technically no because sense is basically a launcher over top of standard android. its either one or the other. however launcher pro has sense themes on their site if you dont really care about the sense widgets much.
This should be in Q & A and not Android Dev...
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This should be in Q & A and not Android Dev...
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Like the others said, you can have both Sense & LauncherPro, & switch between them, but you can't have the Sense Widgets on LauncherPro. There are plenty of look-alikes in the market you can use though.
additionally if you get launcherpro plus you get a decent replacement for most of the sense widgets that have been remade for launcher pro and can resize widgets which is prettynice.
Add SwitchPro to that mix and you've got everything you need! Heck, between the triple-scrolling task bar at the bottom, 8 SP slots for all my radios and functions I access, three normal shortcuts, and a resized calendar widget, I have everything on one home screen.
Not to forget that you can get up to 7 by 9 icons on the home screen and a rolling apps listing in "3D".
EasyHome
I use an app from the market called EasyHome. It places shortcuts of different launchers on your homescreen! I have sense, adw-launcher, launcherpro, and an experimental AndroidWindows7 launcher.
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Not to forget that you can get up to 7 by 9 icons on the home screen and a rolling apps listing in "3D".
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Oh i thought yuo could do those with the non paid version! even more bonus.
I have had the paid since it came out so hard to keep up with all the benefits there are tons. worth every cent.
Why would you want it
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Why would you want it
i could see someone who really likes the sense widgets wanting to but thats why launcherpro plus has recreated them. with out purchasing any apps(or launchers) it is very hard to replace all the sense widgets with something that is as good as what sense has (widget wise).
If you look you can find many that are close but a lot are paid apps. personally i still think your best bet is to simply buy the plus version of launcher pro and as mentioned switchpro. between the two and a few free apps you can replace almost every sense widget.
while its easy to ask why would you its not hard to see why someone would want to if they didnt have knowledge of which apps to get to replace the sense widgets and lets be honest looking for anything in the market is no easy task if you dont know its name.

launcher pro and ADW launchers in HTC Wildfire

Hi
I am owning a HTC WIldfire with Froyo (official update)
Recently I heard about launcher pro apk. I have seen the screen shots(googling) and I find it very cool by the looks and setups...
My questions are :
1. How much advanced is launcher pro over HTC Sence launcher ?
2. Does installing launcher pro throws away HTC Sence for the rest of my phones life ???
3. Any disadvantages of launcher pro - like sluggish,slow etc
4. How many home screens does it provide ?
... and all info on launcher pro if you guys can give me.....
1. Far more advanced. They are a lot more customizable than the Stock Sense launcher
2. No, You can always switch back, besides, you will only lose the Sense Launcher. Sense goes far beyond it's launcher, but, you WILL lose the ability to use any Sense based Widget.
3. No, actually, its the opposite. Its lightning quick. Scrolling between homescreens, scrolling the app drawer with the 3D effect - Its instantaneous. So much so that my friend with a Stock Desire said my phone feels smoother.
4. Configurable from 1,3,5,7
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1. Far more advanced. They are a lot more customizable than the Stock Sense launcher
2. No, You can always switch back, besides, you will only lose the Sense Launcher. Sense goes far beyond it's launcher, but, you WILL lose the ability to use any Sense based Widget.
3. No, actually, its the opposite. Its lightning quick. Scrolling between homescreens, scrolling the app drawer with the 3D effect - Its instantaneous. So much so that my friend with a Stock Desire said my phone feels smoother.
4. Configurable from 1,3,5,7
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Hey Bro... thanks for the valuable points..
but I am still stuck with my question # 2...
What do you mean by "you will only lose the Sense Launcher. Sense goes far beyond it's launcher, but, you WILL lose the ability to use any Sense based Widget. " Can you explain this to me.. as am a new one to android world...
sreekuax said:
Hey Bro... thanks for the valuable points..
but I am still stuck with my question # 2...
What do you mean by "you will only lose the Sense Launcher. Sense goes far beyond it's launcher, but, you WILL lose the ability to use any Sense based Widget. " Can you explain this to me.. as am a new one to android world...
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While using launcher pro as a home screen launcher, you will not be able to use any sense widgets like Calendar, Weather Clock, etc.
Launcher Pro PLUS (paid) comes with it`s own widgets that replicate sense look and feel (minus the weather widget, that`s another debate.)
You can go back to Sense at anytime and use the sense widgets. Nothing is lost.
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While using launcher pro as a home screen launcher, you will not be able to use any sense widgets like Calendar, Weather Clock, etc.
Launcher Pro PLUS (paid) comes with it`s own widgets that replicate sense look and feel (minus the weather widget, that`s another debate.)
You can go back to Sense at anytime and use the sense widgets. Nothing is lost.
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HI Alex..
Thanks... Okay let me try out the launcher....
can you tell me how to switch back to HTC Sense.. if something goes wrong with launcher pro..(hopefully nothing goes wrong..but as a safety measure... )
sreekuax said:
HI Alex..
Thanks... Okay let me try out the launcher....
can you tell me how to switch back to HTC Sense.. if something goes wrong with launcher pro..(hopefully nothing goes wrong..but as a safety measure... )
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Go to settings, then open programs. Press Manage programs. Locate Launcher pro, tap it, scroll down and press "remove default program" or something like that.
poeken said:
Go to settings, then open programs. Press Manage programs. Locate Launcher pro, tap it, scroll down and press "remove default program" or something like that.
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Great .. thanks
Hi again..
Can anyone suggest me any site where I can check for the catalog or specifications of Launcher pro. so that I can get a clear view and try the features without missing anything ... Also if I install the free version, is it a trial one like it will ask me for updating with paid one later ?
sreekuax said:
Hi again..
Can anyone suggest me any site where I can check for the catalog or specifications of Launcher pro. so that I can get a clear view and try the features without missing anything ... Also if I install the free version, is it a trial one like it will ask me for updating with paid one later ?
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LP's official site:
http://www.launcherpro.com/
Free version is free. Not a time bound trial.
3xeno said:
LP's official site:
http://www.launcherpro.com/
Free version is free. Not a time bound trial.
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Bro.. one more question....
I have seen many wallpapers in many screen shots of wildfire which is truly amazing... but my search for those(may be am poor in searching) does not get me amazing ones... can you tell me where to look for cool wallpapers for Wildfire...
The Wildfire Apps and Themes Section should be a good place to start. But, do remember to check out the main Android Themes Section as well.
Wildfire Themes and Apps:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=702
Android Themes:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=527
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Bro.. one more question....
I have seen many wallpapers in many screen shots of wildfire which is truly amazing... but my search for those(may be am poor in searching) does not get me amazing ones... can you tell me where to look for cool wallpapers for Wildfire...
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There is an app called "HD Wallpapers" (by srsdev). It is available in market as a free version.
It has lots and lots of categorised cool wallpapers. But it requires mobile data connection to download the wallpapers. And once u open a wallpaper image, it will be stored as a cache data on memory card. That means u donot need to have internet connection to open the image for the 2nd time , and also for setting it as a wallpaper.
And the best thing is it even has the option to save ur cool wallpapers to sdcard. The saved path will be sdcard/Wallpapers/My Wallpapers/
[And wallpapers will not be specific for wildfire. They are just images. There will be live wallpapers also which are also not specific for wildfire. Don't mind if u know that.]
Can anybody tell wich is better in your opinion, ADW or launcherpro?
Hi All
I installed Launcher Pro... let me tell you it has thrown out all my doubts !!!
Really cool...and fast..an excellent launcher app...with gr8 looks...
but the problems are not having weather and clock widgets (My home screen looks empty without this...) Can anyone one tell what weather and clock widgets are there in market for free so that I can use in my launcher pro..
note : I tried the gtab simi clock.. but I dont know if I went wrong with its settings..when i add the clock widget to my home screen that place blacks out ! means not showing the clock even though I set the time and other stuffs...
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Can anybody tell wich is better in your opinion, ADW or launcherpro?
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Bro...
Launcher pro is really cool u will love it once you install and start using it..
bharatgaddameedi said:
There is an app called "HD Wallpapers" (by srsdev). It is available in market as a free version.
It has lots and lots of categorised cool wallpapers. But it requires mobile data connection to download the wallpapers. And once u open a wallpaper image, it will be stored as a cache data on memory card. That means u donot need to have internet connection to open the image for the 2nd time , and also for setting it as a wallpaper.
And the best thing is it even has the option to save ur cool wallpapers to sdcard. The saved path will be sdcard/Wallpapers/My Wallpapers/
[And wallpapers will not be specific for wildfire. They are just images. There will be live wallpapers also which are also not specific for wildfire. Don't mind if u know that.]
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Thats gr8 to know... I will try it out..yeah I know that live wallpaper will not work with Wildfire until you have rooted it. By the way I used the links provided by '3xeno' to get some wallpapers..those are really good looking...
Also I read in that thread that using .png files gives more stylish view of a picture than .jpeg is that true ?
Format by itself doesn't make any difference. For the Clock and Weather Widget, Google for Fancy Widget 1.3.0. It's a replica of the HTC Widget, but was removed from the market for violating HTC's copyrights, but, it can still be found on many sites. (The market has the new version of Fancy Widget, but, it obviously doesn't look like HTC's, but, the Pro version (Paid) has a skin which looks like one)
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Format by itself doesn't make any difference. For the Clock and Weather Widget, Google for Fancy Widget 1.3.0. It's a replica of the HTC Widget, but was removed from the market for violating HTC's copyrights, but, it can still be found on many sites. (The market has the new version of Fancy Widget, but, it obviously doesn't look like HTC's, but, the Pro version (Paid) has a skin which looks like one)
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I tried to set the Sim clock again... what is width of left side in pixels.. default is 120.. but when i use it as 120 itself.. the place where it is suppose to show the time blacks out and it only displays 15 and black colur ends there... where it is supposed to show as 15|28 - which is the current time in 24 hour !
Use 50. 120 will start the display of the clock from the centre of the screen.
Regarding choosing between launcher pro and adw launcher, its actually the users choice.
There is a lot of difference in performance between htc sense and launcher pro. But there is little/no difference between launcher pro and adw launcher. And also it depends whether u have the full versions of them. I don't know much about adw full version. But launcher pro full version (called launcher pro plus or LPP) unlocks the widgets of it (u can see the widget list even from the free version). And LPP has features of scrollable and resizable widgets. That means u can have any widget to be displayed from 1x1 to 4x4. In my opinion , i choose launcher pro. The adw launcher gives me a little delay while opening the app drawer menu. But it is very necessary to rule out htc sense if u r looking for performance. And one more thing, for persons (who can root their phones) interested in increasing the performance, it is better to choose AOSP roms because JIT compiler, a performance optimizer from froyo cannot be enabled in sense roms and also certainly htc sense is absent in AOSP roms. [some of the reasons why i want rooting is --- to rule out the htc sense, enable JIT compiler, tethering options (root-only apps), overclocking, live wallpapers and of course gingerbread custom roms.]
And regarding weather and clock widget, i will make a note of 3 apps, and the lite versions of all these three are available in market presently.
---"Animated Weather" (by Mobilityflow Arts). If u r looking for a widget which looks like htc one, then this is ur option. Not 100% identical to htc, but it almost looks like htc one. I don't know about the features of the lite and full versions of this. Just noting this to tell u that this (even the lite version) looks more similar to the htc one.
---"Beautiful Widgets" (by LevelUp Studio) . A word of caution for this in the market. "THIS LITE VERSION IS AVAILABLE IN THE MARKET ONLY FOR A LIMITED PERIOD". So, hurry for this cool widget. A very nice and preferable one. It even has free version of additional "BW Animation Pack". Install the animation pack also. It shows cool 3D weather animations right after u unlock ur screen (and they will be shown everywhere, not only on the homescreen). Here in this u can have animation effects on lite version also. The lite version somewhat attempts to look like htc one, it even has download option for few skins. Sorry i don't know the features of the present full version of this.
---"Fancy Widget" (by Android Does) . This one is also good. The lite version doesn't show animations. The full version unlocks animation and other features. For making it look like htc one, go to Appearance Settings/Widget style -- and set it to flip clock (sorry this option is available in full version only). The animation effects in full version are excellent. Even there are sound effects. Same here, the animation effects are triggered right after u unlock the screen (and they will be shown everywhere, not only on the homescreen). Im using full version of this and i feel like having live wallpapers on stock froyo (specially when it rains). But the animation stops just after u touch the screen after unlock. The full version of this supports downloading skins with which u can increase the way it looks like htc (i expect the full versions of all the three support downloading skins). And merely changing the skin will not make it look like htc, that flip clock option also contributes.
NOTE: I have checked the above 3 widgets with launcher pro only. And finally what i suggest u is to make a google search. The above information might be obsolete. And U can really rediscover a lot of things on searching. So always consider to search for things.

[Q] Question to all you rom freaks out there

Hey Guys and Girls,
I love roms,I am always flashing new ones but I have an idea and I need help getting it.So I like sense but love gingerbread,the thing i love about sense is the lock screen where i can drag the apps to the bubble.Thats pretty much it,so I want to have gingerbread as my actual home screen,app screen,and for my keyboard.I know this sounds pretty crazy but can anyone help me find a rom or apps that can help my obtain this.Answers to this quetion would be very appreciated
install a sense rom then install a launcher from the market
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Agile lock from the market is a nice sense 3.0 lockscreen clone. Its still inferior as the software is a little edgy and there aren't any sms previews like the sense 3.0 one has. I currently use this with CM7 along with sms popup from the market and it works great.
Otherwise download a stable sense rom with the sense 3.0 lockscreen (Nils Gingersense, Synergy) and use a different launcher.
There's also SupraROM which is an AOSP Sense 3.0 mix, but I'm not sure if it has the sense lockscreen.
Sent from my Droid Incredible using the XDA app.
I know when I ran MIUI about a month ago there was a Sense ring lockscreen you could install in Theme Manager. The downside was I couldn't figure out how to pick what apps other than the ones it gave you. Maybe that's changed, not sure there.
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I know when I ran MIUI about a month ago there was a Sense ring lockscreen you could install in Theme Manager. The downside was I couldn't figure out how to pick what apps other than the ones it gave you. Maybe that's changed, not sure there.
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Ah right, I forgot about this option.
I do believe that they can be changed. You have to edit a text file though so its not as easy as HTC makes it. There's a MIUI lockscreen thread with a few of those sense ring lockscreen alternatives. However they all have one thing in common: when releasing the ring, the screen immediately unlocks. No cool "fly through the ring" effect.
Sent from my Droid Incredible using the XDA app.
Div033 is correct on the MIUI sense 3.0 lockscreens, they look pretty much identical but lack the fancy animation.
I'm not sure what the OP means by this:
brw216 said:
so I want to have gingerbread as my actual home screen,app screen,and for my keyboard.
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By gingerbread, do you mean the stock AOSP look? Because if so, you could use agile lock on CM7, like has already been mentioned, or maybe try the synergy rom with the warm theme. It has the sense 3.0 lockscreen but is themed with quite a few AOSP gingerbread elements.

Sense 3.5 lock screen for non-sense roms

Does anyone have an install APK for a sense 3.5 lockscreen that works on CM7?
I find the brilliance in sense the lockscreen, as it is beautiful, but i like CM7 way more than the sense 3.5 roms posted here.
No warez though, already checked the GO locker sense 3.5 but it looks horrible and not like sense at all. there is a magiclocker sense but it is paid.
You can try milocker.... its free on the market
Just remember.....the themes provided or from its online store are for bigger resolutions but you can get ported themes here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1428940
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csoulr666 said:
You can try milocker.... its free on the market
Just remember.....the themes provided or from its online store are for bigger resolutions but you can get ported themes here
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thanks bro!
trying it now
ipodguitar said:
Does anyone have an install APK for a sense 3.5 lockscreen that works on CM7?
I find the brilliance in sense the lockscreen, as it is beautiful, but i like CM7 way more than the sense 3.5 roms posted here.
No warez though, already checked the GO locker sense 3.5 but it looks horrible and not like sense at all. there is a magiclocker sense but it is paid.
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CM7 (At least the latest nightly, I'm not sure about the earlier cases) has a locker more usable than Sense 3.5's.
Lockscreen Settings->Style Options
Lockscreen Style -> Ring
Ring-Lock Style (Just themes)
And more importantly:
Enable "Custom App Starter"
Custom Application - You can add up to four applications!
So basically, you get four applications, unlock button and vibrate/sound button. Beats sense (Otherwise, I preferred the 3.5 locker too!)
I couldn't get a full screenshot but touching the middle button brings up four apps.
If you still want the sense look exactly, you'll need to use third party apps but I generally don't like using third party lockers.

What's the app to change iconwith no new launcher ?

I am really liking Sense 6 a lot. Typically I always use Nova Prime launcher, but something about this One M8 and Sense 6 seems nearly perfect just as is.
But I am on a custom ROM, that allows some tweaks, as well as Sense 6 Toolbox + xposed framework for more customization, while all keeping the default Sense launcher.
Anyways, I have a few different apps installed like Textra, but I don't like that icon, would like to keep the Sense 6 messaging icon. How do I change the icon back to default without using Nova launcher ?
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I am really liking Sense 6 a lot. Typically I always use Nova Prime launcher, but something about this One M8 and Sense 6 seems nearly perfect just as is.
But I am on a custom ROM, that allows some tweaks, as well as Sense 6 Toolbox + xposed framework for more customization, while all keeping the default Sense launcher.
Anyways, I have a few different apps installed like Textra, but I don't like that icon, would like to keep the Sense 6 messaging icon. How do I change the icon back to default without using Nova launcher ?
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Icon changer free from Google play or unicon, unicon will change all icons
jaythenut said:
Icon changer free from Google play or unicon, unicon will change all icons
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Thanks, I installed icon changer, and that did the job.
But one thing I hate about installing so many different apps, I don't want any wake locks or issues, due to an app running secretly in the background. Is this a safe app ? I put it in Greenify to sleep just in case.
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Thanks, I installed icon changer, and that did the job.
But one thing I hate about installing so many different apps, I don't want any wake locks or issues, due to an app running secretly in the background. Is this a safe app ? I put it in Greenify to sleep just in case.
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Once you have used it it doesnt do anything in the background

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