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Hey everyone,
This question was bound to come back sometime, and since I have one day left to return the Galaxy Nexus, I wanted to re-raise the issue.
First of all, the GPU of the Galaxy Nexus is the PowerVR SGX540 clocked at 307mhz. Other phones that have come out relatively close to the Galaxy Nexus are the Samsung Galaxy S ll , HTC EVO 3D and finally the iPhone 4s (or the iPad in the site below) have much better benchmark scores compared to the Galaxy Nexus. Now I know the performance heavily depends on the drivers/etc installed but would that make any difference from a phone like the Galaxy S in terms of gaming performance?
According to these benchmarks: here the phone with the PowerVR SGX 540 at 300mhz (Optimus 3D) performs pretty horribly, and I have this phone for another 14 months. Since I consider myself an avid gamer, I want to know if you guys think this phone can last 14 months in terms of the GPU. I know its found in plenty of older devices such as the Galaxy S and the Nexus S, but there are so many games already optimized for it so do you guys think developers will continue to support this fairly dated GPU for the 14 months to come?
Now I'm no technology expert, so I'd appreciate if someone else could help me out here
Thanks,
Mosh
benchmarks don't really mean much to be honest. you could run the exact same test 10 times and get a different result each time.
as far as what this phone can handle... well, i have tried the following:
Shadow Gun
Sentinel 3
Samurai II
Fruit Ninja
Field Runners HD
Shinobi Barrage
all those games play fine for the most part, just a lil slow down here & there in the more graphically intense games like Shadow Gun(this game also makes the phone run very hot). as far as other phones go, i have tried all those games on my Rezound and they played just fine on that phone to. actually, Shadow Gun was a bit smoother on the Rezound(but only slightly).
i'd say as far as 'top-of-line' phones go(on Verizon at least) the 2 tops are the Nexus & the Rezound.
as for the future, supposedly Asus & HTC have quad-core phones with Tegra 3 GPU's coming out 1st Q 2012, but who knows how soon that actually will be(most likely will be push backs & won't see the light until summer or later)
First, the GN GPU is clocked at 384 MHz, second there is not yet a single game (game, not benchmark!) out there that comes close to utilizing the Tegra2 GPU (which is not "very good" either) to its fullest. Draw your own conclusions.
Mine are that the GN GPU will be more than enough until the phone is "old tech" anyway.
Valynor said:
First, the GN GPU is clocked at 384 MHz, second there is not yet a single game (game, not benchmark!) out there that comes close to utilizing the Tegra2 GPU (which is not "very good" either) to its fullest. Draw your own conclusions.
Mine are that the GN GPU will be more than enough until the phone is "old tech" anyway.
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Umm.. no.. its actually clocked at 307MHZ. Only way to see it clocked at 384MHZ is if you OC to 1.4 GHZ (CPU) which many Nexus become unstable or become slower for some reason. The Rez plays games better but its not a huge upgrade either. If you want a stronger GPU, wait for the Adreno 225+ or the new Galaxy S3. The Tegra 3 from what I remember reading seems to be still slower than the Exynos chip which to me is a dissappointment.
If we get games like Real Racing 2 graphics or better, our GPU's will not be strong enough to support them. The iPad 2 at times slightly stutters on Real Racing 2 even with its strong GPU.
voxigenboy said:
benchmarks don't really mean much to be honest. you could run the exact same test 10 times and get a different result each time.
as far as what this phone can handle... well, i have tried the following:
Shadow Gun
Sentinel 3
Samurai II
Fruit Ninja
Field Runners HD
Shinobi Barrage
all those games play fine for the most part, just a lil slow down here & there in the more graphically intense games like Shadow Gun(this game also makes the phone run very hot). as far as other phones go, i have tried all those games on my Rezound and they played just fine on that phone to. actually, Shadow Gun was a bit smoother on the Rezound(but only slightly).
i'd say as far as 'top-of-line' phones go(on Verizon at least) the 2 tops are the Nexus & the Rezound.
as for the future, supposedly Asus & HTC have quad-core phones with Tegra 3 GPU's coming out 1st Q 2012, but who knows how soon that actually will be(most likely will be push backs & won't see the light until summer or later)
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Valynor said:
First, the GN GPU is clocked at 384 MHz, second there is not yet a single game (game, not benchmark!) out there that comes close to utilizing the Tegra2 GPU (which is not "very good" either) to its fullest. Draw your own conclusions.
Mine are that the GN GPU will be more than enough until the phone is "old tech" anyway.
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The only game that I've tried to play other than Words with friends and Hanging with friends is Airport Mania 2 HD, which runs horribly on my Galaxy Nexus (with and without GPU rendering forced). Just food for thought. I'm wondering if 4.0.3 will help it out any. If it does, good, if not, oh well as I really don't play games that often, but it would still be nice to be able to play it on a "top of the line" phone. Other than that, I still like my phone.
I noticed the slow downs in Shadow Gun too. Which prompted me to try overclocking. My phone stutters at 1.4 but very smooth at 1.35. Games play better too. And they're just getting started, who knows what they can do... I think its gonna work out great.
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Other phones that have come out relatively close to the Galaxy Nexus are the Samsung Galaxy S ll , HTC EVO 3D and finally the iPhone 4s (or the iPad in the site below) have much better benchmark scores compared to the Galaxy Nexus.
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The A5 in the iPhone 4s and iPad 2 has a dual-core SGX543MP2, which is why it benchmarks a lot higher. If you want a mobile device that will give the best gaming experience, the iPhone 4s is your best bet as it has the most powerful GPU out of all phones available.
i thought the gpu was 308 mhz? aaaand you don't need to oc to 1.4ghz for 384 mhz. i'm running 384 mhz stock and uv'ed. and yeah the 543mp2 suck up juice when you push them. but so does the 540. i'm happy with it. great balanced phone. should last two years. and somebody supposedly oc'ed the the 540 to 512mhz but i haven't seen a followup or proof yet so who knows.
You want a great gaming device, get a tablet, or better yet, the PS Vita, which will have much better software titles from A+ game studios.
I hear all of this talk about how well or how poorly these devices (i4s included) do with gaming, but I say, who cares? There are good games on Android and iOS, but hardly anything worth investing 30-40 hours of time in, like the Vita will have. The way I see it, if I really wanted to have an amazing portable gaming experience, the 250 dollar Vita will give me Uncharted, Killzone, Metal Gear Solid, God of War, LittleBigPlanet, etc etc. The list goes on. Plus that 250 dollars will, as a console, last me more than 2 years. Plus it actually has buttons and thumbsticks and such, things that are pretty important IMO.
Thanks for all the replies guys!
One thing to be noted though: The GPU can be overclocked without overclocking the CPU.
Another thing though, I'm actually not going to return it because I realized that I barely need to play a 20+ hour game on my phone. At home I have a computer (With an i5 2500k and a GTX 560 Ti), Ps3, xbox 360, etc so there's no room for a mobile device in terms of gaming at home, and when I'm out I'm usually at school so I barely game, and when I do, casual games are sufficient for my needs.
Thanks again guys
The gs2 epic touch gets the Mali 400 I think. Its an older but still very fast gpu. My wife's gs2 pulls 4200+ quadrant stock. Considered one of the best on the market...even w age.
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The gs2 epic touch gets the Mali 400 I think. Its an older but still very fast gpu. My wife's gs2 pulls 4200+ quadrant stock. Considered one of the best on the market...even w age.
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Quadrant doesn't mean much, it isn't optimized for ICS yet.
The Mali 400 is a newer and much faster GPU than the SGX540, the 540 is a leftover from the original Galaxy S and Nexus S. The Exynos CPU is nothing short of amazing. I did some side by side testing of the Nexus and the GS2 today and it wasn't even close the GS2 smoked it in every test and game.
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cbpagent72 said:
The Mali 400 is a newer and much faster GPU than the SGX540, the 540 is a leftover from the original Galaxy S and Nexus S. The Exynos CPU is nothing short of amazing. I did some side by side testing of the Nexus and the GS2 today and it wasn't even close the GS2 smoked it in every test and game.
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I wasn't trying to come off that quadrant was THE benchmark but over 4k stock seems nice.
I knew the gs2 was a beast but had no idea til we bought it. No buyers remorse here. It can stay on gbread forever for all I care. It runs better than anything I have used.
Haters gonna hate, but if you want a device for gaming, you should honestly look at an Apple device. The native nature of iOS apps gives Apple an advantage over Android right from the get go. Java apps will always be slower than apps written in C (or in this case Objective-C) for any given level of coder skill. Then you have to consider that Apple's current iPhone/iPad platform are running hardware that is uncharacteristically powerful compared to not only what Apple is notorious for using, but to most Android devices as well. Finally, the grim reality is still that the big name studios prefer to develop for iOS.
If you are ok with giving up many of the freedoms you may have become accustomed to with Android in exchange for gaming performance and selection, then the 4S is probably a good choice.
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Haters gonna hate, but if you want a device for gaming, you should honestly look at an Apple device. The native nature of iOS apps gives Apple an advantage over Android right from the get go. Java apps will always be slower than apps written in C (or in this case Objective-C) for any given level of coder skill. Then you have to consider that Apple's current iPhone/iPad platform are running hardware that is uncharacteristically powerful compared to not only what Apple is notorious for using, but to most Android devices as well. Finally, the grim reality is still that the big name studios prefer to develop for iOS.
If you are ok with giving up many of the freedoms you may have become accustomed to with Android in exchange for gaming performance and selection, then the 4S is probably a good choice.
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But can you play super nintendo on a bigger screen?
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Lol you can get a gs2, pair a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard to the phone and play and game u want. Can't get closer than that
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Lol you can get a gs2, pair a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard to the phone and play and game u want. Can't get closer than that
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overstatement, but close. you can do the same with the nexus too.
mohitrocks said:
Thanks for all the replies guys!
One thing to be noted though: The GPU can be overclocked without overclocking the CPU.
Another thing though, I'm actually not going to return it because I realized that I barely need to play a 20+ hour game on my phone. At home I have a computer (With an i5 2500k and a GTX 560 Ti), Ps3, xbox 360, etc so there's no room for a mobile device in terms of gaming at home, and when I'm out I'm usually at school so I barely game, and when I do, casual games are sufficient for my needs.
Thanks again guys
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Agreed. I've found that I've tried to play more involving games on my phones, but I just have trouble finding a groove. I'd much rather play stuff like NFL flick QB and cut the rope.
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overstatement, but close. you can do the same with the nexus too.
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Haha to me if you really had the time to pair all that to a phone...you shoulda bought a laptop hahhaha
Hey,
I'm going to sell my Galaxy Note now, which had a good 3D performance, but it's way too big for me. Now going to buy a S2 or the Nexus, but my decision depends also a bit on the GPU.
So, sadly the Nexus the nexus has only a PowerVR540, which is compared to the mali400 much less powerful - on the paper.
Is it really that bad with the actual software? What framerate is GTA III for example working on full details? Please give me some experiences from games you played!
The Mali 400 is overrated, because of a single Anandtech review using some "benchmark tool".
First, the GN has 2.4 times more pixels than the GS2. This makes a difference for games that don't implement resolution scaling. They will require more performance from the GN's GPU.
For example, AirAttack HD runs between 30 and 60 fps on the GN, but it runs at a constant 60 fps on the GS2.
Another example: Riptide GP both run at the same speed if I scale the resolution down a few notches on the GN.
And finally, some games run at the same speed on both, no matter what. For example Wind-up Knight, TurboFly 3D, Shogun, Reckless Racing, My Paper plane 3, Modern Combat 2.
In any case, the GN's GPU is not weak. It was labeled as such because it's the same GPU as the Nexus S but it runs at a higher frequency and has a much faster memory interface, which does make a difference.
New GPU Drivers?
substancer said:
Hey,
I'm going to sell my Galaxy Note now, which had a good 3D performance, but it's way too big for me. Now going to buy a S2 or the Nexus, but my decision depends also a bit on the GPU.
So, sadly the Nexus the nexus has only a PowerVR540, which is compared to the mali400 much less powerful - on the paper.
Is it really that bad with the actual software? What framerate is GTA III for example working on full details? Please give me some experiences from games you played!
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Isn't there better GPU Drivers for your device? My i9001 has Samsung Galaxy W Drivers and fps increased nicely
just get the iphone 4s. problem solved.
gta3 is no problem for the nexus.
zeke1988 said:
just get the iphone 4s. problem solved.
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people like u should be castrated.
if u dont have anything worth while to say dont say it at all , because if he wanted to listen to an asshole he would rather fart .
Hello,
First let me start off by saying this forum has to be the best thing that happened to cellphones since Java and Flash!
Anyways, what I wanted to know is I have the opportunity to upgrade to the i9300 for 150-200$ + my phone traded in, I just wanted to know if the International can handle Dead trigger with less lag? I have tegra 3 Stuff enabled and just wanted to know what to expect!
Thank You guys!
Why would you want to get an international? Besides better dev support and slightly better CPU/gpu, our S3 is still a beast with the S4 processer and 2GB of RAM. Anyways to answer your question, of course the international will run Dead Trigger flawlessly
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If you buying phone purely or mostly for games then international all the way.
US version is good all around if your not heavy gamer.
ghost77 said:
If you buying phone purely or mostly for games then international all the way.
US version is good all around if your not heavy gamer.
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Well I traded up and tbh it seems like there are a lot of biases going around, the experience for now is much smoother overall...maybe its a placebo effect or maybe in the long run this will get slower too but for now everything responds much faster.
Not trying to start anything I just think ppl need to be well informed so they know what to purchase. The international is definately smoother for now and loads apps faster off hand. The international seems to also have FM Radio. The 3G though seems MUCH slower. I mean noticeably slower, sometimes I'm downloading @ 200 KB/s. Also the Ram does fill up fast, just with basic use I'm at 750 megs.
Hope this helps any potential upgrades, purchasers or just knowledge junkies
Also off hand, standby seems to be better on battery for international while use is better on the US. The last about the same from start to finish, but the US has LTE which drains battery more, so I give the nod to the LTE version for battery!
There also seems to be 4 options in Locations Services instead of the 3 in the LTE model, Use wireless netoworks, Use GPS Satelittes, Use Sensor aiding and Location and Google Search. I only remember 3 options in the LTE model.
Thanks for all the replies I'll report back once I get it rooted and running Dead Trigger!
-Another thing I noticed is the international seems to detect my 5 GHZ Wifi Signal, while the Rogers phone couldn't.
Adreno 225 can handle any intensive ggame like Mali mp4 or tegra 3. I currently own s3 adreno, it handles any game I throw at it with breeze, plays hd movies like a champ, plus its 2GB ram for awesome multitasking and with lte makes it a bigger deal IMO.
Dead trigger with high gfx settings plays fine on mine.
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Adreno 225 can handle any intensive ggame like Mali mp4 or tegra 3. I currently own s3 adreno, it handles any game I throw at it with breeze, plays hd movies like a champ, plus its 2GB ram for awesome multitasking and with lte makes it a bigger deal IMO.
Dead trigger with high gfx settings plays fine on mine.
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I agree...there isn't a game out there right now that the Adreno 225 can't run with ease...Dead Trigger runs like a champ on mine...
tarick09 said:
Adreno 225 can handle any intensive ggame like Mali mp4 or tegra 3. I currently own s3 adreno, it handles any game I throw at it with breeze, plays hd movies like a champ, plus its 2GB ram for awesome multitasking and with lte makes it a bigger deal IMO.
Dead trigger with high gfx settings plays fine on mine.
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I did a test for both, and they both start off lagging at the beginning, but the mali handles the rest of the level better. The frames also don't dip, while the adreno did dip, although not too noticeable you could see where the frame rates would dip. The Adreno did amazingly I agree, but it also lagged when getting certain kills, and by lag I mean 1 second freezes! Let's just say the Adreno is a little prone to hiccups once in a blue!
The International also loads into levels faster, but I did find A LOT of bugs when doing the stupid free Gold crap on international....I still haven't gotten my netflix Gold or some the games wouldn't boot properly on the international. One of the Gambing games took 5 tries before it loaded, while on the US it loaded after 2 tries.
Also I do also notice a slightly longer time it takes from going to PLay store back to Dead Trigger, the Krait seemed to handle this better, or it might be the extra Ram headroom.
Lte isn't a big sell for me because @ 1 GB max bandwidth I'm in no hurry to use it all the time and I'm mostly at school which has wifi . 2 GB of ram is a major Loss, but I can't feel it yet. Most likely when we see more development for the phones, we might see some emulation that the US phone can do that this can't, or Virtual machine or w.e.
The other thing I really like is the menu fluidness. It's noticeable on international, it just feels smoother after the phone has been on for a while it's still kept its fluidness, when I remember my friend's Girlfriend tested out my phone (US at the time) because she liked it, she asked why the transitions were so laggy (at the time I had less Widgets running which really shocked me).
As of right now, I'm really pissed the international wasn't available as the base model so users can see the difference for themselves.
-Another thing, the International if your using it while it's plugged into your computer, it will not charge! LOL even if it says it's charging the percentage will either stay the same or go down if your doing intense stuff. The US version just raised up slower
Will report any more changes I see.
P.S the international version I'm using still has it's bloatware! :S I'll see what happens to ram when that is killed off!
heyyy... anyone can give me a review about gaming performance in note 8.... i found article say it stutering when play real racing 3... and this gadget have a poor performance in gaming??
can anyone give me a review about that...
i want to buy this n5100...
sorry for my bad english...
devilzzzz said:
heyyy... anyone can give me a review about gaming performance in note 8.... i found article say it stutering when play real racing 3... and this gadget have a poor performance in gaming??
can anyone give me a review about that...
i want to buy this n5100...
sorry for my bad english...
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For this time. Playing Games on Note 8.0 is ok. I have Fifa 2012, MC4, Fieldrunner 2, Real Rancing 3 and them run ok. But, I think for a longtime isn't good choice.
My son just got this tablet and I can tell you every game we have put on it has worked flawlessly. For us any game that works on my 10.1 has played as well if not better on the note 8 (including real racing 3).
duyminhphan said:
For this time. Playing Games on Note 8.0 is ok. I have Fifa 2012, MC4, Fieldrunner 2, Real Rancing 3 and them run ok. But, I think for a longtime isn't good choice.
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Can I know, what do you mean by for a long time isn't good choice? Is it become laggy if keep playing for a long time maybe 1-2 hours....
rpmbnsf said:
My son just got this tablet and I can tell you every game we have put on it has worked flawlessly. For us any game that works on my 10.1 has played as well if not better on the note 8 (including real racing 3).
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Do you mean everything that work on note 10.1 also work for. Note 8???
I also have note 10.1 but that's to big for me...
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Can I know, what do you mean by for a long time isn't good choice? Is it become laggy if keep playing for a long time maybe 1-2 hours....
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I think he means the shelf life... that it wont take long for games to start demanding more than what the note 8 has.
not that i agree completely..
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Can I know, what do you mean by for a long time isn't good choice? Is it become laggy if keep playing for a long time maybe 1-2 hours....
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All devices with Exynos 4412 are proved to be great in stability test, almost no throttling.
I'm doing a complete thumb suck here, but I expect the mali400 gpu that's in the Note 8.0 to start showing it's age in a year to two years.
What I mean by that is top games will still be very playable... But lag will become more and more noticeable in certain areas of the game. Either that or some of the bells and whistles will be turned off in the version that's 'officially' available to us on the Play Store.
After all... There will be a never ending push for ever more demanding games to 'show off' just how much better flagship devices are to previous generations. The Note 8.0 has a weaker gpu than the phone I bought 2 years ago... It can't be *that* much longer before it can no longer keep pace...
Just sayin....
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I'm doing a complete thumb suck here, but I expect the mali400 gpu that's in the Note 8.0 to start showing it's age in a year to two years.
What I mean by that is top games will still be very playable... But lag will become more and more noticeable in certain areas of the game. Either that or some of the bells and whistles will be turned off in the version that's 'officially' available to us on the Play Store.
After all... There will be a never ending push for ever more demanding games to 'show off' just how much better flagship devices are to previous generations. The Note 8.0 has a weaker gpu than the phone I bought 2 years ago... It can't be *that* much longer before it can no longer keep pace...
Just sayin....
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True, but this applies to almost all new technology. Always something new coming out. I'll keep mine for a year and sell it when I upgrade to the next greatest thing
ok thanks... now i just wait for the gadget come hope everything work perfectly... gaming,browsing,watching... and the battery life i hope just from morning till afternoon or night... :laugh:
duyminhphan said:
For this time. Playing Games on Note 8.0 is ok. I have Fifa 2012, MC4, Fieldrunner 2, Real Rancing 3 and them run ok. But, I think for a longtime isn't good choice.
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Note 8 OR Nexus 7 Which one is good for gaming? Which is future proof (1 year atleast) in terms of gaming?
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Note 8 OR Nexus 7 Which one is good for gaming? Which is future proof (1 year atleast) in terms of gaming?
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I think note 8.0 better. And maybe 6 month for heavy game. Normal games is no problems. Sorry for my bad English.
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The note 8 is very fast but uses the Mali 400 GPU, an older (is it two years old now?) GPU.
For gaming, I'd hold off until after Google I/O to see what devices are announced. If the N7 is refreshed with the Mali 604 or so (and/or a Tegra 4) and a decent display, you might want to wait until it can be ordered.
In ordinary use, the GN8 is the fastest Android device I've used, and has the least lag of any Android device I've used. The Nexus 7 is very good, but it's just not playing in this league. I'm sure there are some Tegra optimized games that the N7 will do better on, but the UI overall is not this quick.
Incredibly fast in my use, and I play numerous graphics intensive games. DEFINITELY better than n7, trust me, I've owned both
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Can the Mali 400 GPU be overclocked with a custom kernel in order to squeese a little more performance from it?
Overclocking the Tegra 2 GPU on my ASUS Transformer as well as the CPU made a big difference in its gaming performance.
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The note 8 is very fast but uses the Mali 400 GPU, an older (is it two years old now?) GPU.
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I'm having a little trouble tracking down exactly when the Mali-400 MP gpu was first released, but here's an article on it from 2008: !!!
http://beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=48319
It was still a pretty beefy gpu in the Galaxy SII in 2011... But as far as I know was upstaged by the Adreno 220, which was to be found in the HTC Sensation (the phone I bought in 2011).
Some more info from back then:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4760/arms-mali400-mp4-is-the-fastest-smartphone-gpufor-now
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1050968
Hello, I'm thinking about buying a Galaxy Tab S 10.5", I don't need LTE on my tablet but I don't want a laggy tablet on games like Dead Trigger 2, Real Racing 3, Need for Speed..
Is the snapdragon 800 version better for gaming/performance?
I can't decide between Galaxy Tab S or Nexus 9 for school /: + Casual gaming.
Thanks in advance!
Also! Which one do you guys consider a better tablet, Galaxy Tab S or Galaxy Note Pro 12.2?
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The tab s will get you 8 hours of on screen time. No lag during gameplay but only at loading screens idk about note pro.
PunkOz said:
Hello, I'm thinking about buying a Galaxy Tab S 10.5", I don't need LTE on my tablet but I don't want a laggy tablet on games like Dead Trigger 2, Real Racing 3, Need for Speed..
Is the snapdragon 800 version better for gaming/performance?
I can't decide between Galaxy Tab S or Nexus 9 for school /: + Casual gaming.
Thanks in advance!
Also! Which one do you guys consider a better tablet, Galaxy Tab S or Galaxy Note Pro 12.2?
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i have just yesterday went to a seller, whose add for Pro 12.2 i saw yesterday. i checked the tab, and i was no convinced! its TOO big! its like those old laptops with huge screens. it FEELS quite heavy and makes it more usable for showing stuff to others, like more than 3 people. i mean that about screen size. its too bright, for night use as well. it would kinda lite up the room ur in at night. almost IMPOSSIBLE for one hand use and its thicker than Tab S. for comparison, LTE Pro 12.2 is 753Grams whereas, LTE Tab S 10.5 467Grams. its 268Gb lighter, the Tab S! also noticeably thinner at 6.6mm where Pro 12.2 is 8mm thick.
and honestly if u need it for school, the thinner and lighter it is the better. i would suggest Tab S 10.5 any day.
Which Tab S performs better in games? Snapdragon or Exynos?
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Which Tab S performs better in games? Snapdragon or Exynos?
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it should be Snapdragon cause of better development from devs and better optimization.
PunkOz said:
Which Tab S performs better in games? Snapdragon or Exynos?
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Have you considered the Nvidia shield? It's 8 inches but graphics performance is excellent and it got updated to Lolipop. For 10 inch tablets IMO the Samsung is the best out there.
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Have you considered the Nvidia shield? It's 8 inches but graphics performance is excellent and it got updated to Lolipop. For 10 inch tablets IMO the Samsung is the best out there.
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Yes I have, but Ive seen bad reviews about the Nvidia Shield display, I knkw that the speaker ans internals are better! But I need it for school and Im a casual gamer, I play games like PvZ, Real Racing, Clash of Clans, Dead Trigger 2... I wont use nvidias streaming service, I just want a tablet for school that allows me to play those games smoothly with a decent camera.
dude , buy a nexus 9
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Yes I have, but Ive seen bad reviews about the Nvidia Shield display, I knkw that the speaker ans internals are better! But I need it for school and Im a casual gamer, I play games like PvZ, Real Racing, Clash of Clans, Dead Trigger 2... I wont use nvidias streaming service, I just want a tablet for school that allows me to play those games smoothly with a decent camera.
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See here: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8670/google-nexus-9-preliminary-findings/3
Although I am not sure which version of Galaxy tab/Pro is reflected in the benchmarks.
And with regards to cameras on tablets, I advise you to forget about it. Even Phones dedicated to "Photography" give very poor results.
sku|| said:
dude , buy a nexus 9
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I'm not sure, I have a Nexus 5 already and.. I've heard bad reviews about Nexus 9 everywhere!
mr.r9 said:
See here: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8670/google-nexus-9-preliminary-findings/3
Although I am not sure which version of Galaxy tab/Pro is reflected in the benchmarks.
And with regards to cameras on tablets, I advise you to forget about it. Even Phones dedicated to "Photography" give very poor results.
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Yeah, I just don't want it to be way too crappy like the Nvidia Shield camera.
sku|| said:
dude , buy a nexus 9
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Dont get the Nexus 9 yet, I exchange mine for the tab s 10.5 since Best Buy has the holiday sale for $399 but so far many apps arent optimized for the Nexus 9. I played some games on this tablet. its a bit laggy only on asphalt 8 but everything else is buttery smooth. I suggest put google launcher and google keyboard, it becomes a Nexus device in no time. It has a few updates that has stability issues so everything is good so far. Just hope Samsung does update it to lollipop. Samsung has a bad track record in updating tablets very late.
PunkOz said:
Hello, I'm thinking about buying a Galaxy Tab S 10.5", I don't need LTE on my tablet but I don't want a laggy tablet on games like Dead Trigger 2, Real Racing 3, Need for Speed..
Is the snapdragon 800 version better for gaming/performance?
I can't decide between Galaxy Tab S or Nexus 9 for school /: + Casual gaming.
Thanks in advance!
Also! Which one do you guys consider a better tablet, Galaxy Tab S or Galaxy Note Pro 12.2?
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I have used the entire of the 2014 galaxy tab and note tablet line. The note 12.2 is an enormous device. As someone stated earlier, it is like having a laptop with you. IMO if you like a 10" tablet, and don't mind the functionality of an S-pen, the Galaxy Note 10.1" (2014 edition) is very close in hardware specifications, to the Galaxy Tab S 10.5.
The Note is 299 ppi vs 288 ppi on the Tab S. Battery for the Note is 8220mAh where the Tab is 7990mAh. They both have the exact same camera, 8pm, with a 2mp front camera. Wifi, Bluetooth and USB are all exactly the same. Dual band AC wifi, Bluetooth 4.0 and USB 2.0.
The Note however is a Snapdragon processor, meaning if you wanted to root or install a customer rom, there is a greater chance of developer support over the Tab S.
I hope this helps. Anymore questions, just shoot me a message.