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GT-I9250 Galaxy Nexua - Fido in Canada

Hi,
Might be one of a few having the galaxy nexus GT-I9250 in Canada.. I tuned on the phone and it found Fido and it worked. I get 3g and H on the signal bar. How do i k ow if I have hspa + or 4g lte on the phone? Will it show 4g or H+?
Speed test gets only around 1 meg down...
Fido and rogers are one, according to service map by rogers HSPA+ is in Ottawa and soon LTE. Will they prevent Fido users from 4g?
Any settings I have to enter on phone to get the higher speeds? Anyone in Canada has this working?
Thanks a lot for any insight u might have...
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forget LTE it will not work (for CDMA networks like Bell/Telus)
get the GSM version to work

The phone doesn't have LTE. It has GSM and HSPA+.
As far as speeds, you're going to have to talk to other Fido users in the same area and see their speeds (or other phones you own with the same SIM card). There may be some changes to the APNs you can do to increase speeds, again you're going to want to ask Fido users.

as for knowing how fast you are going
it's simply a matter of speed
in Canada normal H+ speed is around 8 Mbps down at best
if you seed speed that goes beyond 16 Mbps, you are most likely on "4G"
there's no real 4G if you check Wikipedia
all the current LTE / 4G technology are fake
they are more like 3.5G = H+, so "4G/LTE" is actually more like 3.75G
the real 4G is on WiMax radio which is not very popular in many places and phones

Is there a version that supports lte? All over web they say galaxy nexus lte...
If anyone lives in ottawa and has Fido, please share ur experience and settings.
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ssss25 said:
Is there a version that supports lte? All over web they say galaxy nexus lte...
If anyone lives in ottawa and has Fido, please share ur experience and settings.
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There is 1 version with LTE. And that is made for Verizon USA. You're probably only going to see the GSM/HSPA+ version in Canada.

Thanks all. OK, so hspa + I will forget about lte..
How do i know if my phone is connected to hspa+?
Will it has a plus sign on signal bar. If i go to settings, then about phone, then status. It shows the current connection, what should it be? Anybody has hspa+ can tell me what they see in status in setting and the signal icon on top?
I will be happy with around 8mb
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ssss25 said:
Thanks all. OK, so hspa + I will forget about lte..
How do i know if my phone is connected to hspa+?
Will it has a plus sign on signal bar. If i go to settings, then about phone, then status. It shows the current connection, what should it be? Anybody has hspa+ can tell me what they see in status in setting and the signal icon on top?
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So under connection it'll say "EDGE" on 2G, "UMTS" on 3G, and "HSDPA"/"HSPA+" on 3.5G/4G/H+ (depends what your carrier wants to call it).

i believe he was speaking about the ICON indicator on the status bar
it'll be either 3G in most areas, and in really go areas you'll see H+ or 4G depending on the ROM how it was coded for the signal quality strength
once you start flashing custom ROMs you'll notice that will change too, depending on the ROM Dev, it's all cosmetic eye candy
if you want to know the real deal install Open Signal from Market
it has a nice widget that tells you the true tower capacity

It fluctuates between
Umts:3 and hspa:11
The reason I ask about the plus is that there is hspa only.. no plus and i am not sure if the hspa:11 means plus or no plus.
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Allgamer thanks. On the icon, I get 3g and H on stock ics. No H+.

if there is no H+, then you are on 3G
ssss25 said:
Allgamer thanks. On the icon, I get 3g and H on stock ics. No H+.
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but H also means H+
just cosmetic again

ssss25 said:
Allgamer thanks. On the icon, I get 3g and H on stock ics. No H+.
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Like I said earlier, if under "status" you see UMTS then you're on 3g. If you see HSPA you're on "4g". What that means for speeds is up to Fido.
The ROM just has "H" icon I believe. You won't see H+.

First of all, Bell and Rogers are GSM networks and they support LTE, however the phone itself only supports HSPA+ 21mb/s. Only the CDMA Verizon version of the Galaxy Nexus will support LTE.
Note: This is only as far as my knowledge extends to, and I don't accept any responsibility if anything goes wrong

Thanks for all the replies. I had a nexus one which only supports hspa, not hspa+ and i used to see Hspa there. That is why I was concerned if the hspa I am seeing is using the plus protocol which supports a much faster speed than hspa. This is why seeing an h only, or hspa in connection didn't give me a good feeling as i had it on my nexus one. Its the hspa+ that gives me the extra speed on the galaxy nexus and i wonders if its being used.
Thanks for all your help and comment guys.. I appreciate it

It seems like the Verizon LTE version will not work on Fido/Rogers or Bell/Telus (each of which seems to have their own LTE network)
If you want to do a good speed test while around the BC area, go to Whistler and then do a speedtest.net test (via the app).
I've had 6MB/s down on standard HSPA.

Thanks for the info.
I found that in ottawa if i use spedtest.net app I only get between 1 and 2. If I use open signal, another App on market, I get around 6mb/sec.
Thanks.

Ubergizmo on Nokia Lumia 900 4G/3G/Edge switch

Has anyone else found the following web site with instructions on setting up a 4G/3G/Edge switch on the Web
(Do a search to find the link)
I tired it and was able to get the switch, but I have not been able to try it on 4G(LTE) yet as I do not have LTE reception where I live and only have 3G (the phone says 4G, but I know it is 3G+) but will try it at work tomorrow where I can actually get LTE.
But one thing I noticed is that I cannot get EDGE service where I live. I heard that AT&T wanted to get rid of 2G (EDGE). Have they done that already?

Hre is the link:
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/04/nokia-lumia-900-gets-edge-3g-4g-toggle/
Im not sure what you mean about trying it on 4G... the only choices are 4G (LTE) 3G or edge so you get one of the 3.
In my LTE market when I choose 4G I get LTE.

hx4700 Killer said:
Hre is the link:
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/04/nokia-lumia-900-gets-edge-3g-4g-toggle/
Im not sure what you mean about trying it on 4G... the only choices are 4G (LTE) 3G or edge so you get one of the 3.
In my LTE market when I choose 4G I get LTE.
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On AT&T, there are 4 types of data. 2G/EDGE, 3G, "4G"/3G+/HSPA+ and LTE.
We all know about 2g and 3g, but many people like you don't know about the difference between "4g" and LTE.
This whole thing was started by T-Mobile, because this was the early days of LTE, and Sprint was advertising it's WiMax network as 4G, T-Mobile decided to use a technology called HSPA+ and brand it as 4G. Initially, AT&T scolded T-Mobile for this move, but as soon as it was decided HSPA+ could be considered 4G, AT&T rapidly built up a network of this, almost as large as their 3G network.
HSPA+ is basically a faster version of 3G, hence why it's often called 3G+. However, AT&T tries to advertise it as 4G so they can boast they have the largest 4G network, even though Verizon leads the charge with the most LTE sites. HSPA+ is a bit faster than 3G, but doesn't hold a candle to LTE. However, it does have it advantages, such as being compatible on the iPhone 4S, and unlike Verizon, on AT&T, if you loose LTE coverage, you can fall back on HSPA+, where as on Verizon you fall back on their CDMA network (Which is still slower than AT&T's GSM network).
So over all it's good and leads to faster overall experience, unless of course you're in LTE coverage 24/7, then it doesn't matter that much. My (and others) only problem with this is AT&T branding it as 4G, which tricks consumers.

These days, both AT&T and T-Mobile branded devices display "4G" for *any* UMTS connectivity, instead of 3G/H.
It's lame.

My 900 has this switch in the settings without the need for any hacks

you hit #data# and then hit the ... button at the bottom and set up the toggle between speeds. Then restart the device, go under settings>cellular> select data speed.
With this device's data speed selection, 2G= edge, 3g= HSPA+/UTMS, 4G= LTE. Eventhough ATT modified the registry so that UTMS shows 4G at the top of the device, when you select 3G in the speed selection, you are only making the phone connect to HSPA+/UTMS

hx4700 Killer said:
Hre is the link:
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/04/nokia-lumia-900-gets-edge-3g-4g-toggle/
Im not sure what you mean about trying it on 4G... the only choices are 4G (LTE) 3G or edge so you get one of the 3.
In my LTE market when I choose 4G I get LTE.
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Hey, they stole my article that I originally posted on Mobility Digest. (www.mobilitydigest.com). They even took my screen shot. I purposely took that shot when my phone was showing "G". Oh well. Btw, it does work.
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[Q] How do I know I'm on 4G?

I'm in Chicago (both in the city and suburbs), and my S3 always shows "3G" in the notification area.
I know AT&T has an LTE network here, so shouldn't it say 4G or LTE? Could this be a problem with my account--or even the phone?
Thanks.

somewhere in the settings should be a network selection to choose between GSM/LTE(4G) and GSM(3G) only....at least on the Verizon phones there usually is, of course it says CDMA/LTE(4G) or CDMA(3G) only

eelton said:
I'm in Chicago (both in the city and suburbs), and my S3 always shows "3G" in the notification area.
I know AT&T has an LTE network here, so shouldn't it say 4G or LTE? Could this be a problem with my account--or even the phone?
Thanks.
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I have ATT GS3 and it says 4GLTE tiny icon, if you are sure you are in LTE zone and only getting 3g , call AT&T or go to their store , sim could be old/wrong and or your account was not properly activated.
When i got my GS3 i wasnt getting any data at all , called AT&T and they sorted it out.
Run speedtest see what you getting ?

I have at&t in chicago as well. I live up in lake county and work in des plaines. I was also at navy pier a few weeks ago. Never had anything other than 4g or LTE. I literally have never seen the 3g icon on my phone
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Thanks for the replies. I'll give AT&T a call.
I did run speedtest, while the phone was displaying 3G. the download speed was 7686 and upload 5704.

Well, I called AT&T and they couldn't find any problem. After 20 minutes, they said, "There's a network outage reported in Chicago, so that must be it." I asked how long the outage has lasted, and she said 17 hours. But I've had the phone for four days, and have never seen anything but 3G.
At any rate, they said I would have to call back in a couple of days. That conveniently got the rep off the phone.

I live in a 3G area, and it says 4G on my phone. Makes me feel like they are BSing us to believe 4G is everywhere.
Only time it has been off of 4G is when I"m in an Edge area. Speaking of which, I found it interesting that while driving up I90 in Wyoming (didn't look like anything was there for miles and miles), the data speeds were great. I was so surprised. Driving the much busier highways in the midwest, it is Edge, and it sucks.
Sorry...went off topic.

eelton said:
Well, I called AT&T and they couldn't find any problem. After 20 minutes, they said, "There's a network outage reported in Chicago, so that must be it." I asked how long the outage has lasted, and she said 17 hours. But I've had the phone for four days, and have never seen anything but 3G.
At any rate, they said I would have to call back in a couple of days. That conveniently got the rep off the phone.
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Your account does need to be flagged as LTE or you won't get LTE service. I'm up in Gurnee and all over Chicagoland has pretty good LTE coverage.
Also, check your APN that you're on the "PTA" and not the older APN settings. If you see anything about cingular wap, you're on the old one.
I recommend going to an AT&T store, it's harder to blow you off when you're up in their face.
I have friends in Aurora, Lombard, Lyons and I used to work downtown; I always had great LTE signal out and about as well as my home area of Gurnee/Libertyville.
Lastly, AT&T distinguishes between "4G" which is HSPA+ and "4G LTE" which is their LTE network. Unless you're running a custom ROM with different icons, you'll have an E for edge (2.5G, total ****), 3G for a 3G area that hasn't been upgraded, 4G for a 3G area that's been "backhaul upgraded" to HSPA+ and 4G with a little LTE beneath it for an LTE area.
For me, I can tell speed-wise between "4G" and "4G LTE" mostly by the upload speed. HSPA+ (4G) I never see above 1.2Mbps or so, whereas on LTE I get up to 5Mbps roughly. Sad story is the LTE network in the Chicago area is the slowest of their LTE networks that I've seen anyway. I get so jealous of people in TX and whatnot that get like 24Mbps!
Sorry for the rambling...

One weird thing...when I click on my results in speedtest, it lists the network as LTE, even though the icon always shows 3G.
So maybe it's connecting to LTE, but not showing the correct icon? Does a download speed of 7686 seem faster than 3G?

To follow up, in case this helps anyone...
I spent another half hour on the phone with AT&T--level 1 and level 2 tech support. (The level 2 guy was much less informed than the level 1 woman.) Their bottom line was that I should exchange the phone.
However, when I use the network signal info app, it says I'm on the LTE network. So, I think I have an icon problem, not an actual network connection problem.
I think I'll just live with it, rather than exchange the phone.

Telus: 4G LTE turned into H+ ?

When I first got my galaxy s3, telus said it would come with 4g lte. It worked well and on the top notification section, it specifically said, 4g lte. Now I'm trying out custom roms and such, and I downloaded CM10. However, on CM10, the icon no longer says 4g lte, but it says H+. When I revert back to my old rom, it says 4G (ONLY 4G, no LTE at the end). Can anyone tell me why my data connection has been demoted, or if it has been demoted at all? Should I just give Telus a call and ask whats up with this?
And yes, LTE is available in my area, I'm in Vancouver.
Thanks

sulihpoeht said:
When I first got my galaxy s3, telus said it would come with 4g lte. It worked well and on the top notification section, it specifically said, 4g lte. Now I'm trying out custom roms and such, and I downloaded CM10. However, on CM10, the icon no longer says 4g lte, but it says H+. When I revert back to my old rom, it doesn't say 4G (i ahven't seen it say LTE at the end yet though). Anyone can tell me why my data connection has been demoted, or if it has been demoted at all? Should I just give Telus a call and ask whats up with this?
And yes, LTE is available in my area, I'm in Vancouver.
Thanks
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I have the same problem: I have ATT, since using custom ROM (TASK ROM) i have lost LTE, even though the APN settings are correct, the only way that i've have gotten LTE back is by going to the store and getting a NEW micro-SIM , then LTE works, and to answer your question, H+ is just HSDPA+ and 4G is LTE.

40mpg said:
I have the same problem: I have ATT, since using custom ROM (TASK ROM) i have lost LTE, even though the APN settings are correct, the only way that i've have gotten LTE back is by going to the store and getting a NEW micro-SIM , then LTE works, and to answer your question, H+ is just HSDPA+ and 4G is LTE.
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Thanks!
And just for clarification: when you got the new micro sim, were you able to combine both the custom rom and 4g lte? Or is it one or the other?

yeah apparently in canadian carriers, they're changing up things, like for example our rom on ics, i get 4g and LTE even tho im on 4g plan but s3 is LTE but some custom roms such as cm9,10,miui,aokp and so forth have things setup to h+ and for example even tho you might LTE speeds on cm10 via toggle of LTE on, it'll still show 4g meaning it is LTE but its just how structure in systemui is setup. eventually we all hope it'll change, best way to find your speeds and confirm what you're getting is Speed test via market and it'll tell u all.. hope it all helps
edit and it'll also depend which towers are setup in which configuration, such as if you're closer to main junction of cities for example Toronto for me, i'll get LTE like whoa but say im in brampton now it might have towers catching LTE but not as frequent hence it'll fallback on 4g.

AOSP ROMs will always be G, E, 3G, H, H+, 4G
G - GPRS
E - Edge
3G - 3G
H - 3.5G down
H+ - 3.5 G up/down
4G - LTE

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AOSP ROMs will always be G, E, 3G, H, H+, 4G
G - GPRS
E - Edge
3G - 3G
H - 3.5G down
H+ - 3.5 G up/down
4G - LTE
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yeah like as i was saying structure is based upon that. the reason why those structures don't change is because vanilla roms aka aosp roms are not just based on 1 type of device but 1000 of devices so you can imagine, doing 1,000 different things, ahh id go nuts haha

wali01x said:
yeah like as i was saying structure is based upon that. the reason why those structures don't change is because vanilla roms aka aosp roms are not just based on 1 type of device but 1000 of devices so you can imagine, doing 1,000 different things, ahh id go nuts haha
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Well it's just a more accurate representation of what you are connected to... Despite what all the carriers say, the stock rom only saying 4g, is NOT 4g... it's 3.5g which is better represented with H, and H+.... Marketing schemes really... True 4G is LTE...

BNaughty said:
Well it's just a more accurate representation of what you are connected to... Despite what all the carriers say, the stock rom only saying 4g, is NOT 4g... it's 3.5g which is better represented with H, and H+.... Marketing schemes really... True 4G is LTE...
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yes sir, true it is marketing schemes haha i didn't wanna say it out loud but hey sometimes you gotta do those things to sell =) right ,as carrier perspective if they can sell all the stock for the devices and make the money they're happy, and we're happy lol.

I've noticed with my device that LTE coverage, at least in my local area, is fairly sparse, but occasionally present nevertheless.
If you're not seeing it at all, you might check that LTE is enabled in two places: check Settings -> More -> Mobile Networks -> Network Mode for an LTE setting; and dial *#*#4636#*#* to pull up the Testing menu, go to Phone Information, and check "Set Preferred Network Type" for an LTE setting. Doing both of these allowed my phone to start seeing the LTE network.

No 3g on GS4 T-Mobile?

Hello all!
I have an S4. It's fairly new. I like it and all, good phone. Anyway, my one beef is that I have 2 options for data service - 4g and Edge (no LTE here yet.) I wish that I could use 3g when 4g isn't available (edge is too slow) but nothing I've tried works... APN settings, cell network settings.... It's only 2g or 4g. I live in a reframed area (1900 MHz 3g... Cincinnati) which, according to the phone's specs, it should support. Tmobile support said on Twitter that it wouldn't get any 3g, but I like to take what they say with a pinch of salt, especially since a flagship phone not getting 3g is pretty ridiculous.
Any info would be appreciated. Thanks!
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Anyone know anything?
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I'll give you my best guess. T-mobile doesn't have 4G. They call it 4G, but it's really like 3.5G or HSPA. It will show on your phone as 4G though when you are connected to any "H" network or UMTS bands. When you go into menu> settings> more networks> mobile networks> network mode, you should set it to GSM/WCDMA (auto connect) to force 3.5G or 4G as tmo calls it.
I know this doesn't answer your question per se. Edge or "E" is slow as molasses. Verizon's 3G is almost as slow believe it or not (in my location).
Do you not have WIFI?

Or you can dial *#2263# and you will be in service mode. Choose Lte Gsm. It will force Lte

He doesn't have LTE
GS4

jbdan said:
I'll give you my best guess. T-mobile doesn't have 4G. They call it 4G, but it's really like 3.5G or HSPA. It will show on your phone as 4G though when you are connected to any "H" network or UMTS bands. When you go into menu> settings> more networks> mobile networks> network mode, you should set it to GSM/WCDMA (auto connect) to force 3.5G or 4G as tmo calls it.
I know this doesn't answer your question per se. Edge or "E" is slow as molasses. Verizon's 3G is almost as slow believe it or not (in my location).
Do you not have WIFI?
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Yeah, I understand that it's "3.5G" but there should be 3G too....not just "3.5G" and 2G...I'm wondering if I can get 3G on this and if not, why I don't. I have Wifi but not when I leave the house

In short the answer is no. Tmo has its network and it is the way it is. Were you with a cdma carrier (sprint / Verizon) before? Sounds like that's what you are looking for
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No, AT&T and Cincinnati Bell before, never used CDMA.
I read that when T-Mobile upgraded their network, they replaced their 3g with 3.5g - leaving only a few small pockets of T-Mobile 3g remaining. Oh well, I guess that's why they're adding LTE - will be nice when they finally get their stuff straight around here!
Thanks for your help
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isoh said:
Yeah, I understand that it's "3.5G" but there should be 3G too....not just "3.5G" and 2G...I'm wondering if I can get 3G on this and if not, why I don't. I have Wifi but not when I leave the house
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I live in an area with lte but recently traveled to another city. While driving on the interstate I was getting anywhere from E (in middle of nowhere), 3G (near the city) and 4G (once in the city). So I know this phone is capable of 3G in area with no lte/4G
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baseballfanz said:
I live in an area with lte but recently traveled to another city. While driving on the interstate I was getting anywhere from E (in middle of nowhere), 3G (near the city) and 4G (once in the city). So I know this phone is capable of 3G in area with no lte/4G
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Thanks! Must be just T-Mo's network then. At least I'll have 4g and LTE when they finally get it here.
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isoh said:
Hello all!
I have an S4. It's fairly new. I like it and all, good phone. Anyway, my one beef is that I have 2 options for data service - 4g and Edge (no LTE here yet.) I wish that I could use 3g when 4g isn't available (edge is too slow) but nothing I've tried works... APN settings, cell network settings.... It's only 2g or 4g. I live in a reframed area (1900 MHz 3g... Cincinnati) which, according to the phone's specs, it should support. Tmobile support said on Twitter that it wouldn't get any 3g, but I like to take what they say with a pinch of salt, especially since a flagship phone not getting 3g is pretty ridiculous.
Any info would be appreciated. Thanks!
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If I remember correctly when t-mo started with "4g" the majority of the phones had 2 radios, one for 2g and one for 3/4g and it is basically the same way still. So you're never going to see anything in regards to 3g only. but even though your data connection icon may say 4g, u could technically be on 3g at the time.