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Battery life, android OS at 40% normal?

Sorry if this is the wrong section, but it seems like the only section specific to the Captivate Glide.
My wife's Glide is stock, very few widgets (google voice, battery, stock clock) and Android OS shows up at 40% when the phone is idle overnight and during the day during use. She has fb set up on socialhub with only contacts synced, 2 gmail accounts, and Touch(used to be pingchat). wifi is enabled and connected for most of the day. bluetooth is on too, but only connected when in the car.
I don't think it's Touch since I have it on my Atrix and Android OS is at 2-3% for me.
Any ideas?

gnahc79 said:
Sorry if this is the wrong section, but it seems like the only section specific to the Captivate Glide.
My wife's Glide is stock, very few widgets (google voice, battery, stock clock) and Android OS shows up at 40% when the phone is idle overnight and during the day during use. She has fb set up on socialhub with only contacts synced, 2 gmail accounts, and Touch(used to be pingchat). wifi is enabled and connected for most of the day. bluetooth is on too, but only connected when in the car.
I don't think it's Touch since I have it on my Atrix and Android OS is at 2-3% for me.
Any ideas?
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do you have apps that can access your location? (weather apps, maps etc.) If yes, you may wanna go settings > location and security > and then uncheck "Use wireless network" in case you have not done it yet.

I don't think that's it. I have location enabled on my phone and have a weather widget. The wifes phone does not have a weather widget.
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gnahc79 said:
I don't think that's it. I have location enabled on my phone and have a weather widget. The wifes phone does not have a weather widget.
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She might have some app that is are using way too much cpu, try doing a factory reset and check the usage, mine is currently %17.
Also the facebook app is a notorious battery thief. Battery usage percentage isn't standard for different people, if she's not using much features, the majority of her battery will be used by the OS since there is nothing else to use it.

vil33 said:
She might have some app that is are using way too much cpu, try doing a factory reset and check the usage, mine is currently %17.
Also the facebook app is a notorious battery thief. Battery usage percentage isn't standard for different people, if she's not using much features, the majority of her battery will be used by the OS since there is nothing else to use it.
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Wouldn't phone idle be the max usage? For my Atrix phone idle is at 70% or so when I barely use the phone and Android OS is 3%. I can try disabling facebook overnight to see if the Android OS usage goes down.
The battery life for this phone is ok. It hits ~30% or so in the early evening, meaning we need to charge the phone if she goes out that evening. For my Atrix the battery doesn't hit 30% until midnight under light usage conditions (no games).
Is there an app or logcat keyword to filter to break down exactly which thread/process is using up the CPU?
edit: nm, going to read through this first

From looking at the wakelocks with BetterBatteryStats the likely culprit for the battery usage is the facebook chat portion of the fb app. The wife has many contacts in the chat, so it's probably polling quite a bit. For me the wakelock count for fb chat is fairly low. fb chat is a must for the wife so I can't disable it.
Also in the process screen I see several kworkers with high usage...not sure exactly what's causing that.

so for whatever reason the battery drain is now more acceptable even though the Android OS usage is still at ~50%. Could be the fb update, but the good battery performance occurred before the fb update.

gnahc79 said:
so for whatever reason the battery drain is now more acceptable even though the Android OS usage is still at ~50%. Could be the fb update, but the good battery performance occurred before the fb update.
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my infuse 4g has a battery drain because of fb.....it's always the next thing that is draining the battery (i hope to get screenies). I just force close fb (or set refresh interval to "never") when I am done using it....
I can't say that this is same as yours but it may be a thing to look up.

Has anyone loaded the new ATT update (2.3.6) yet to see if it has any effect?
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Has anyone loaded the new ATT update (2.3.6) yet to see if it has any effect?
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I just updated it within the past hour or so. No idea what changed.

eddiert said:
Has anyone loaded the new ATT update (2.3.6) yet to see if it has any effect?
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Probably just bug fixes and stuff like that
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jayjayjoker2 said:
Probably just bug fixes and stuff like that
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Yes, it's a bug and I hope that they have fixed it.
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Doesn't appear to have fixed it. Charged up. Two hours later android os is at 26%. Second only to screen. Before I started using it it was at 60%.

Do you happen to use advanced task killer this may help
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Is there a certain task to kill?
I have had this problem since day one with this phone. I did a reset without loading a single app and I see it. Does every glide have this behavior or could this be a bad phone?

Well when I first use my phone a lot of apps are running at startup but you could have a bad phone I don't have the phone so I don't know
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eddiert said:
Is there a certain task to kill?
I have had this problem since day one with this phone. I did a reset without loading a single app and I see it. Does every glide have this behavior or could this be a bad phone?
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From the betterbatterystats output, I'm pretty sure the high Android OS usage is software related and specific to the stock ROM. The radio and wifi battery usage are normal.
I have no clue what the kworker processes are doing when the phone is supposed to be idle. Overnight my Atrix is 68% idle, 12% cell standby...android OS is 2%.

Idk you could try when putting it idle turn of Bluetooth and wifi and the data network this could help see
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Idk you could try when putting it idle turn of Bluetooth and wifi and the data network this could help see
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BT is already off. I could turn off both wifi and data network and if it turns out that is what is causing the battery drain (does not seem like it)...then what? Don't use wifi and the data network? It seems like there's little we can do as an average user to fix the high Android OS usage when idle. It does not seem like high kworker process usage can be fixed by TiBu or other simple fixes from a user.
Another update from Samsung, custom ROMs, and other dev fixes on xda seem to be the only options.

You need to find the source to find a rom that will repair this sometimes an launcher can make your battery die faster I know that Facebook and the browser use a ton of ram I have a stock app on my phone called application manager and I can stop apps that are using my ram
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Maps has absurdly high number of wake ups, help?

I'm relatively new to android but have a computer background. I'm rooted and have flashed about a dozen or so different ROMS but ended up back to stock for a few of the TW features. I've been keeping an eye on my battery lately and noticing a extremely high number of wake ups from my maps application. Last night specifically I went to bed at 11:30ish with 39% batt life remaining. I woke up and 7am and I have 19% remaining. Phone wasn't in use at all. I had 3 emails and a google+ message come through over night. Looking at GSam Battery monitor maps has very high usage for something i'm really not using at all. it used 15% of my battery coming in below the kernal at 15.4% and the android system at 28.5%. The phone was held awake for a total of 1h 11m in the last 14h by maps alone and had 1743 wake ups.
I have since gone in and turned off location services. I was not using latitude or anything. Not using GPS although I do leave it on. I have google now installed and really liked the fact it would give me driving info when it was my usual time to head to or from work. The alerts for traffic for calendar appointments was also awesome so i'd preferably like to keep those working if possible.
If anyone has any info that could help it would be greatly appreciated!
Here are some screenies to help just in case.

You could try freezing maps with titanium backup. Not sure what effects it will have on anything else though. Just a suggestion.

jethro650 said:
You could try freezing maps with titanium backup. Not sure what effects it will have on anything else though. Just a suggestion.
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Well I use maps all the time. I just didn't happen to be using it in the last charge cycle. So far this morning I went into the maps settings and toggled locatoins settings- report from this device to off. I'm currently charging (off my laptop so it's slow) and once I'm at 100% I can run another cycle and see if it's made any difference. So far it looks like the number has stayed the same.

rmead01 said:
Well I use maps all the time. I just didn't happen to be using it in the last charge cycle. So far this morning I went into the maps settings and toggled locatoins settings- report from this device to off. I'm currently charging (off my laptop so it's slow) and once I'm at 100% I can run another cycle and see if it's made any difference. So far it looks like the number has stayed the same.
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I've seem many posts about this. Its a known issue unfortunately. Like you've already done, make sure location reporting is off and that latitude is disabled.

prscarp said:
I've seem many posts about this. Its a known issue unfortunately. Like you've already done, make sure location reporting is off and that latitude is disabled.
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Yeah i've seen some posts but Latitude was off and most of the other instructions for disabling more services were for different devices so the setting paths were different. Maybe this will actually work. I've noticed a bunch of wakes preventing periods of deep sleep as well. crossing my fingers I solved it myself.

small update, looks like turning off the location history does stop google now from working with the traffic updates. While I really like this service, i'm not sure it's worth the battery life it's taking to fuel it. Could be related to using a port of google now with ICS and not official jelly bean, at least that is what i'm hoping.

Well it looks like I got maps fixed but now the system is crushing my battery. I'll let the screenshots do the speaking. Really looking for someone with some expertise to help me out. I'm lost other than switching to a CM10 ROM.
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Turn Off Location Settings
Try turning off your LATITUDE LOCATION SHARING. That seems to work for a lot of people that reported the same issue. Its under System Setttings > Accounts > Google > Maps & Latitude

That's been off. Fixed the maps but now system is going crazy. This just started yesterday. I'm planning on re flashing stock and starting over
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I'm sure you have, but im just gonna ask the obvious. Have you rebooted?

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I'm sure you have, but im just gonna ask the obvious. Have you rebooted?
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Not only have I rebooted, I did a Titanium backup of my apps, factory reset, and only restored my apps. no system settings.
The only thing I can think of is that I installed a few packages to enhance the stock rom. I'm going to flash over a completely fresh version and go from there.

Oh wow, well good luck! I would recommend looking at CM10 tho. Been using it for a month or two now and haven't looked back.

prscarp said:
Oh wow, well good luck! I would recommend looking at CM10 tho. Been using it for a month or two now and haven't looked back.
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I really liked CM10, a lot. I just miss some of the reasons I bought this phone. Swiping contacts to text/call, motion settings, video playback pip. If they could ever get those on CM10...
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Tips and tricks: improve JB idle battery life.

Confirm the following option is unchecked:
Maps/Settings/Location settings/Report from this device.
If it is checked, uncheck it.
Here's the difference in battery life -
About half the battery drain with the option unchecked.

Thanks for the tip
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It looks exactly the same lol. Just one was running on battery longer than the other?

ReapersDeath said:
It looks exactly the same lol. Just one was running on battery longer than the other?
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What are you talking about? Did you zoom in to see screen on/awake usage? Both are about 7.5 hours of idle time.

I updated my phone to JB and followed the battery saving measures and the battery is dropping very quickly.
Before it could last up to 3 days in standby, now I'll be surprised if it lasts 8 hours.
I'll give it another day then try a factory reset if it does not improve.
Anybody else seeing this?
I have watchdog on the phone and it shows zero cpu off time.

Just install better battery stats, there is also a way to dump the same info in terminal but I don't use it. You are looking for alarms apps cause. It's most likely maps, followed by talk, exchange client, or anything like Twitter, FB,g+,stocks.... but most likely maps location settings
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I have been doing a lot of research and the end result is that JB out of the box will eat your battery and yes disabling the settings under maps does in fact help a lot but there is a lot more you can do to get good life... for starters get the simple stuff out of the way, DELETE FACEBOOK MOBILE APP!!!...and twitter and anything that actively accesses the internet in the background... I know this may sound taxing but it is so worth it if yiu just make a bookmark in your browser and view it periodically than have an always active app... next if you are not in a primarily lte covered area set your phone to cdma only... go into settings and go to data usage and here you can see what is using data in the background I.e. facebook... and go there and check the restrict app box.., disable auto brightness and some have said that if you disable sprint connection manager thing you can do even more.... now that one I cannot be sure about I will post results in the coming days of what I find
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OZGBLACK said:
I have been doing a lot of research and the end result is that JB out of the box will eat your battery and yes disabling the settings under maps does in fact help a lot but there is a lot more you can do to get good life... for starters get the simple stuff out of the way, DELETE FACEBOOK MOBILE APP!!!...and twitter and anything that actively accesses the internet in the background... I know this may sound taxing but it is so worth it if yiu just make a bookmark in your browser and view it periodically than have an always active app... next if you are not in a primarily lte covered area set your phone to cdma only... go into settings and go to data usage and here you can see what is using data in the background I.e. facebook... and go there and check the restrict app box.., disable auto brightness and some have said that if you disable sprint connection manager thing you can do even more.... now that one I cannot be sure about I will post results in the coming days of what I find
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You are pretty much correct the FB app sucks but I never really had much problems with it.
A lot of these tips though in general (not directed towards you) are stupid.
Like someone said a while ago I refuse to gimp my phone to sip a little bit more life out of it. What's the use of having a smartphone if you're not going to use it like one.
I always have high brightness unless its dark out. I broke my syncs intervals up to about 4 hours per sync and have push notifications from twitter and weather.
With those apps all I have to do is refresh when I enter the app having those syncing all the time is worthless unless you're constantly checking every 10 seconds.
I say I get fairly decent battery life granted I'm on wifi most the time and 7-8 hours with about 2 hrs screen on playing HD games youtube poweramp and my background processes.

Well in regards to the act of extending the life of your battery these are simply tips that you can utilize in the event you are someone who is out for extreme amounts of time.... I average anywhere from 13 to 17 hrs of battery life with 100% brightness, wifi 3g all of my favorite apps... instagram xda kik kindle Skype etc. And 5 to 6 hrs of screen on time. .. so these gimping tactics more than double my phones live time and doubles my life.... but hey if you can get to a charger after 8hrs by all means but for the most part I cannot until after 13 but i do in fact appreciate your incite
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Also even though you are disabling sone of these apps like google now.... you can still use it your just turning off the background nonsense
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OZGBLACK said:
Well in regards to the act of extending the life of your battery these are simply tips that you can utilize in the event you are someone who is out for extreme amounts of time.... I average anywhere from 13 to 17 hrs of battery life with 100% brightness, wifi 3g all of my favorite apps... instagram xda kik kindle Skype etc. And 5 to 6 hrs of screen on time. .. so these gimping tactics more than double my phones live time and doubles my life.... but hey if you can get to a charger after 8hrs by all means but for the most part I cannot until after 13 but i do in fact appreciate your incite
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what rom and kernel are u using

Even with changing that setting in Maps I still am not getting the same battery life as I did with ICS. Maps is still coming up as my most used app when I check battery usage even though I rarely use it. Wonder if it may be Google Now causing Maps to keep running.

nabbed said:
What are you talking about? Did you zoom in to see screen on/awake usage? Both are about 7.5 hours of idle time.
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Oh wow. Sorry from my phone I couldn't zoom in. I see now lol. Thought I saw 90 and 89 or something like that

I had the Maps setting turned off for a few days and also had A LOT of stuff disabled, but unfortunately my battery life (and my wife's as well) wasn't as good as ICS, and quite a bit worse actually.
Sadly, today, it looks like I figured out what the killer is:
Google Now.
This morning, 100% charged, I turned it off. My wife (who still had it on) and I were out and about together for about four hours, we both barely used out phones for that time. When we got home I checked both phones: I was at 96%, she was at 80%.
The only difference that I hadn't already accounted for:
Google Now.
So, unfortunately, it looks to me like one of the two biggest reasons for wanting JB in the first place (Butter being the other of course) turns out to be a big battery hog I don't yet know if there's maybe some setting within it that is a specific problem or if it's the whole thing in general... maybe you just need to disable a card or change an update frequency or something (I didn't touch any so I'm running whatever the defaults are), I don't know yet... but all indications are that's where the problem lies.
That, my friends, sucks.

Well since my phone has calmed down I am getting 13-16 hr easily. Brightness maxed of course and about 4-6 screen on time I will never cripple my phone. Hell I bought it so I can use not to look at. Lol thanks for the post of this though if I'm ever I. A die hard , situation I'll know what to do
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Orbiting234 said:
Even with changing that setting in Maps I still am not getting the same battery life as I did with ICS. Maps is still coming up as my most used app when I check battery usage even though I rarely use it. Wonder if it may be Google Now causing Maps to keep running.
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Google Now uses the "Report from this device" and "Enable location history" maps location settings to determine your driving patterns so it can suggest alternative routes and report traffic delays. Disabling "Enable location history" will disable the driving pattern suggestions completely.
FWIW Settings | More settings | Mobile networks | Network mode
Changing from "CDMA" to "LTE / CDMA" has gained me better battery life. My wife also noticed the same.

(To save time, I'm cutting & pasting my post from another similar thread.)
> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1963689&page=3
"I have had my Galaxy S3 for a week now. Battery life stabilized after the initial syncing, etc. I updated to Jelly Bean v4.1.1 two days ago, and battery life didn't seem noticeably different. However, that was until today. My phone was off of the charger, around 10AM, and had < 5% charge by 4:30PM. I was very busy, so I was hardly using the phone all day. It was in my pocket or on my desk most of the time. One of the only settings I changed last night, was enabling 'Use wireless networks' and enabling 'Location and Google search' under 'Location Services' in 'Settings'. I just disabled both settings, and will see if the battery drain is any less tomorrow. Also, Google Now was off, and was never enabled on my phone. I'll try to post the results, if at all possible..."
So, for me, it seems to be Location Services may have caused my poor battery life, and was definitly not Google Now, as it was never enabled. I'll try using the phone with the settings off, and see if that changes anything...

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Stock stock stock jellybean ota... that's it
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I do love Jelly Bean; as it is ICS only improved or enhanced. But battery life has definitely taken a hit. I can barely make it through 24 hrs. On ICS I could do a day and a half to two days with really light use. I've tried just about everything mentioned with little change. Good thing I have an extra battery. Thank you Samsung for making a phone with a user replaceable battery.
Thanks for all the ideas/suggestions anyways,
El Mono

I noticed the huge difference as well. I was walking around Chicago yesterday and not using my phone. After 4 hours I looked and my battery was at 50 %.
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JB Stand-by Battery Drain Issue

Hi everyone,
Like many others I had a terrible battery drain in std-by after upgrading to JB. I've already posted some troubleshooting I performed somewhere else, but since I wanted to update this from time to time and to keep everything a bit together, I'm making this topic, don't shoot me :fingers-crossed: It's my log/reference how I'm fixing my battery issue, and some help for other ppl trying to fix their issue to.
Feel free to add your thoughts.
So, some facts of my case:
- Phone is locked, all stock, with JB.
- Std-by drainage after OTA upgrade to JB with everything working on ICS, was +- 20% over night (7h), no data/wifi/BT/sync or anything else.
- Something is waking up my device every half hour to drain battery.
- Disabeling Google Now, NFC, Location stuff, Sync, etc... did not solve the massive drain in my case (it will help ofc, but is not the root-cause).
- Factory reset followed by the installation of all my apps and settings at once did not solve my issue.
- Factory reset with ONLY activating my google account during initial setup (and pulled in my contacts). Nothing else installed or activated/synced for testing purposes. => Solved the std-by drainage on my phone.
- At this point I can tell for sure that in my case, a rogue app (that worked fine on ICS but not on JB) is causing this problem, not JB or my hardware.
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What I did then:
I tried a few battery apps mentioned in other posts to find out where the problem was, but I was not able to find anything usefull.
Tested in the other direction... Did a complete factory reset again, with none of my additional apps installed (only my contacts), no google now, location or syncs.
The result was 14h with only 4% gone! Good result imo.
So I planned installing a few apps at a time/day to see when it starts to drain again, so I can isolate the problematic app.
Yesterday I installed 6 of my most used apps + a few sync profiles last evening, still a very nice std-by drain this night (was still on 100% this morning lol).
For all those with std-by battery issues, if you don't mind a full factory reset and don't need all your 150 apps at once, try it like I did (clean with no apps, sync or data) to see if std-by drain is back to normal (for testing purposes). Then install 5 to 10 apps per day to see if everything remains ok. My device works as it should be now.
I know a lot of ppl prefere not to wipe their phone and want to find the problem via battery monitoring apps, no problem with that, this is just the way I did it, it takes some time but ok, at least the drain is gone now :victory:
I'll update my findings regulary untill I bump to the winning app
Greets
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These are the apps/features i've installed so far and NOT causing the std-by battery drainage (20% or more in 7h):
In std-by at night, the wifi/data/BT and sync are off at my phone ofc.
8h std-by at night, still at 100% in the morning
aCalendar
Apex Launcher Pro
ES FileExplorer
Fancy Widgets
Power Toggles
Facebook synced
Google Drive
Twitter Synced
Smooth calendar widget
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9h std-by at night 1% drop
Green power
Google Location Service (System Setting)
Dropbox + auto photo upload
SwiftKey 3 full + personalize
Swiftkey flow beta
HLN
XDA Developers Premium
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12h std-by at night (including 3h with wifi/data and sync) = 3% down
11 new apps installed yesterday.
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More apps installed, drain is still ok.

Can you let us know the first 6 apps.
Thanks
Andy

Iceax123 said:
Can you let us know the first 6 apps.
Thanks
Andy
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Sure, these are the ones I already installed plus the features I enabeled and are OK on my device:
aCalendar
Apex Launcher Pro
ES FileExplorer
Google Search updated
Fancy Widgets
Power Toggles
Facebook synced
Google Drive
Twitter Synced
Smooth calendar widget
I've installed some more of my apps today, and will see tomorrow morning if these are OK to.

What do you think?
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orderme said:
What do you think?
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Sorry i'm not good in analyzing battery app graphics... That's why I'm working the other way around as you can see.
Is your screen showing your device was on std-by for 80 hours or?
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After disabeling the location report setting in Google maps the battery drain was gone on my hox. Go to Google maps/settings/location and then remove the check mark at something called like report location (I have a german phone so I dont know the exact expression). Once you have done that the battery consumption is less then on ics. At least in my case.
Hope this helps!
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hanserson1 said:
After disabeling the location report setting in Google maps the battery drain was gone on my hox. Go to Google maps/settings/location and then remove the check mark at something called like report location (I have a german phone so I dont know the exact expression). Once you have done that the battery consumption is less then on ics. At least in my case.
Hope this helps!
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Yeah tried that to before, but didn't fix the 20% overnight drain here. Ofcourse it will help with general battery usage.
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it will be interesting to know what the rough app was :laugh:
if this was me i would try reading through the last dozen or so comments on playstore about my installed apps, maybe other people are having the same prob ..

My battery seems to have settled went to bed with 43 percent woke up 7 hours later with the same
Have managed 29 hours battery and 4 hours screen time. I've done over 4 hours screen time before but only on like a 6 hour total use. But with over 29 hours since last charge its actually become a usable phone
A
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beanbean50 said:
it will be interesting to know what the rough app was :laugh:
if this was me i would try reading through the last dozen or so comments on playstore about my installed apps, maybe other people are having the same prob ..
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Hehe yeah thats an option to, but when you have over 150 apps it can be a hassle to check that, with not even a guarantee that you find any useful comments ofcourse
Anyway, this morning my std-by drain was still TOP after the batch I installed yesterday
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Iceax123 said:
My battery seems to have settled went to bed with 43 percent woke up 7 hours later with the same
Have managed 29 hours battery and 4 hours screen time. I've done over 4 hours screen time before but only on like a 6 hour total use. But with over 29 hours since last charge its actually become a usable phone
A
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:good:

Happy with this
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Iceax123 said:
My battery seems to have settled went to bed with 43 percent woke up 7 hours later with the same
Have managed 29 hours battery and 4 hours screen time. I've done over 4 hours screen time before but only on like a 6 hour total use. But with over 29 hours since last charge its actually become a usable phone
A
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How do you check screen time on JB? Seems to be gone in the 'battery' option in settings

do you keep data connection off?

Use gsam to show screen time.
Power save mode turns data off with screen off.
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emilio94 said:
do you keep data connection off?
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Yes, when my phone is in std-by at night, wifi,data and sync is off.

Another batch of 11 apps installed yesterday.
10pm to 10am = 3% std-by drain.
From those 12 hours there are also 3 hours included which my wifi/data and sync was on with mails coming in.
So std-by battery drain is still very good here! :highfive: Hope the rogue app is in one of my 50 games, no so difficult to eliminate one of those
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150 apps could take weeks to find the bugger hehe :laugh:

beanbean50 said:
150 apps could take weeks to find the bugger hehe :laugh:
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Ah, most of the apps I really need are almost installed
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I turned off power save, 23hrs still 64% left, was allot less with battery save enabled
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Have you activated Google now yet?
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Battery Drain

Ever since I updated to 8.1.0 with December security patch, I've noticed my battery draining faster than normal. I was getting 4-5 hours of SOT with around 45-50% battery left. This was after being off the charger for 12-16 hours. Now I'm getting about half the SOT at similar numbers. Anyone have any ideas?
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andrewjt19 said:
Ever since I updated to 8.1.0 with December security patch, I've noticed my battery draining faster than normal. I was getting 4-5 hours of SOT with around 45-50% battery left. This was after being off the charger for 12-16 hours. Now I'm getting about half the SOT at similar numbers. Anyone have any ideas?
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Excuse my stating the obvious, but you need to find what process or app is using the battery. You should be able to get a rough idea just using the new features under Settings>>Battery. It will identify which apps are using the most juice. Run the phone in Safe Mode to see if your battery life goes back to normal. It could also be a service like Google Play Service which sometimes wigs out and starts chewing battery. Are you rooted? If you need more detailed information there are battery drain apps available to help isolate the problem (BBS and GSam). These apps require root to give the best results.

v12xke said:
Excuse my stating the obvious, but you need to find what process or app is using the battery. You should be able to get a rough idea just using the new features under Settings>>Battery. It will identify which apps are using the most juice. Run the phone in Safe Mode to see if your battery life goes back to normal. It could also be a service like Google Play Service which sometimes wigs out and starts chewing battery. Are you rooted? If you need more detailed information there are battery drain apps available to help isolate the problem (BBS and GSam). These apps require root to give the best results.
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Not rooted and currently locked. I've downloaded GSAM and have adb permissions and it simply says things like Chrome, RCS Phone and Play services. If you see from the photos below you can see what I'm talking about. Chrome currently isn't that bad, but yesterday and the past couple days it's been like 9% or more of the battery.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/hFvQKO7q3pZTHFNb2
Sorry the screenshots were too large for uploading.
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andrewjt19 said:
Not rooted and currently locked. I've downloaded GSAM and have adb permissions and it simply says things like Chrome, RCS Phone and Play services. If you see from the photos below you can see what I'm talking about. Chrome currently isn't that bad, but yesterday and the past couple days it's been like 9% or more of the battery.
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Two things: I've never seen phone or kernel use that much battery. On one page phone usage is 33 seconds, yet it used 9% ? I think RCS is running the background all the time. See if you can toggle it to not run in the background under Settings>>Apps>. High kernel I'm guessing is a kernel wakelock or multiple. You've probably loaded app(s) that are creating the problem, but you need to find out which one is causing the wakelocks. There is a wakelock detector "lite" app that doesn't need root but I don't know how well it works. I know the root version works well. Lastly, on the first screenshot with the battery, scroll to the bottom of the page and see which apps are listed there. I'd be willing to bet if you ran the phone in Safe Mode, your battery drain would disappear, meaning your user apps are causing it.

v12xke said:
Two things: I've never seen phone or kernel use that much battery. On one page phone usage is 33 seconds, yet it used 9% ? I think RCS is running the background all the time. See if you can toggle it to not run in the background under Settings>>Apps>. High kernel I'm guessing is a kernel wakelock or multiple. You've probably loaded app(s) that are creating the problem, but you need to find out which one is causing the wakelocks. There is a wakelock detector "lite" app that doesn't need root but I don't know how well it works. I know the root version works well. Lastly, on the first screenshot with the battery, scroll to the bottom of the page and see which apps are listed there. I'd be willing to bet if you ran the phone in Safe Mode, your battery drain would disappear, meaning your user apps are causing it.
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https://photos.app.goo.gl/4v8seKwMJnceaVUG3
Well in safe mode my drain is gone so I'm not sure which app is doing it, but to directly answer your question about the RCS it is an overall app meaning it is related to several Google play services. I'll upload a photo of it. I have to reboot into normal mode.
Edit: I'm wrong about that it was the play services.. I'll have to start uninstalling the apps to determine which one is draining the battery I guess.

andrewjt19 said:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/4v8seKwMJnceaVUG3
Well in safe mode my drain is gone so I'm not sure which app is doing it, but to directly answer your question about the RCS it is an overall app meaning it is related to several Google play services. I'll upload a photo of it. I have to reboot into normal mode.
Edit: I'm wrong about that it was the play services.. I'll have to start uninstalling the apps to determine which one is draining the battery I guess.
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RCS can be a real battery hog, but I don't know why. I don't have RCS on AT&T. Do you use Messages as your primary SMS? Open Settings>>Advanced and see if you can toggle off "Enhanced Features". Open properties and check if it is using battery optimization. If it is not, set Messages to battery optimization. You can always turn these back on later if the battery drain remains.

My battery life has been restored to pretty much the same as it was with 8.0. I also noticed poor battery life after installing the 8.1 update, even though they changed the way battery life is estimated with this update (supposedly). Something just felt off, but now everything feels great! I am fairly certain what changed is installing the Greenify Magisk module and/or the Google play services doze module (this enables battery optimization on the Google play services app). Not sure which one really made the difference because I installed them at the same time. However, there is definitely a major difference!!

js042507 said:
My battery life has been restored to pretty much the same as it was with 8.0. I also noticed poor battery life after installing the 8.1 update, even though they changed the way battery life is estimated with this update (supposedly). Something just felt off, but now everything feels great! I am fairly certain what changed is installing the Greenify Magisk module and/or the Google play services doze module (this enables battery optimization on the Google play services app). Not sure which one really made the difference because I installed them at the same time. However, there is definitely a major difference!!
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Here's proof!!

js042507 said:
Here's proof!!
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In my experience that's really good.
Before 8.1 I noticed about 11% per hour during screen on use and about 0.33% per hour while on stand by in my pocket or a little bit better if it's just sitting on my night stand not moving while I'm sleeping (I think doze is more extreme in that situation) which seems to match what you are getting. Based on that screen shot I think that's like 8 hours screen on time over like 35 hours for a full charge. I've done a little bit better but not much. That's excellent battery life.
Since 8.1 it has dropped. Best now is maybe 7 to MAYBE 7.5 hours over maybe 26-28 hours. In my experience battery life always drops after an update but this case is far from the worst. I remember when my Nexus 5 updated from KitKat to Lollipop. The battery drop was awful and to make matters worse the battery life of the Nexus 5 was pretty bad to begin with.

js042507 said:
Here's proof!!
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Which font is that?

MarwanTamer said:
Which font is that?
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Default. I didn't change the system font.

js042507 said:
Here's proof!!
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What are your settings for Greenify
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Prattham said:
What are your settings for Greenify
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Here...

So in my last reply I thought I was wrong about RCS Phone app being a conglomerate of several apps in the phone. For some reason I couldn't find the information I needed at that time. I wiped my phone and started over after posting this thread. I was trying to isolate the misbehaving app. I thought it might have been greenify actually, but no the drain has returned to a lesser extent though. Here's some photos of this RCS app from GSAM.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/rvw077mBfNULbsRE3
I'm not sure what is causing the drain at this point. I've installed Better Battery Stats to locate the wakelocks so I can ignore them through ADB.
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andrewjt19 said:
So in my last reply I thought I was wrong about RCS Phone app being a conglomerate of several apps in the phone. For some reason I couldn't find the information I needed at that time. I wiped my phone and started over after posting this thread. I was trying to isolate the misbehaving app. I thought it might have been greenify actually, but no the drain has returned to a lesser extent though. Here's some photos of this RCS app from GSAM.
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Have you tried disabling RCS ? (Post #6). BBS is good for idle drain, active drain not so much. It's best run overnight without touching the phone for 8 hours or so. Pick the phone up in the morning and create/save a log file as quickly as possible. Post the log to the BBS thread if you need help deciphering.

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Have you tried disabling RCS ? (Post #6). BBS is good for idle drain, active drain not so much. It's best run overnight without touching the phone for 8 hours or so. Pick the phone up in the morning and create/save a log file as quickly as possible. Post the log to the BBS thread if you need help deciphering.
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I cannot disable it since it is comprised of multiple apps. You can see it in the pics on my last post.
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