[Q] Use Infrared for remote control - G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello,
I'm the owner of a brandnew G Pad 8.3 and I'm very happy with it. I just found out, that you can actually use the infrared sensor to turn on/off your devices (TV, Video-Audio Receiver, etc.) but the pre-installed app is limited to TV, Bluray players and DVD players. I found some other apps to simply learn IR codes for other devices but they dont work on my G Pad. I've heard, that one can only access the IR sensor with the LG SDK, and most (probably all) apps wont be able to use this sensor. Does anyone have a solution for this problem?
Best Regards

I've looked everywhere for a solution but no success..Also wrote to a couple of developers and they told me the same!

melagodo said:
I've looked everywhere for a solution but no success..Also wrote to a couple of developers and they told me the same!
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This is strange. I dont understand the philosophy of LG. I would understand it, if they restrict the usage of their built-in hardware to force users to use LG software. But to restrict it and then not develop a good tool to use it is just ridiculious, It is like: "Here have this awesome, usefull piece of hardware, but you cannot use it".

Swoncen said:
This is strange. I dont understand the philosophy of LG. I would understand it, if they restrict the usage of their built-in hardware to force users to use LG software. But to restrict it and then not develop a good tool to use it is just ridiculious, It is like: "Here have this awesome, usefull piece of hardware, but you cannot use it".
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Quite.
It's even more ridiculous for the GPE version of the gpad - the IR blaster in that is flat out unusable!

TehJumpingJawa said:
Quite.
It's even more ridiculous for the GPE version of the gpad - the IR blaster in that is flat out unusable!
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The tin foil hat wearing part of me always thought the GPE versions of the gpad were the ones which failed the IR Blaster internal tests... I have no proof of this and it seems like the hardware is slightly different so... probably not true, but it makes me laugh none the less.

The encrypted ir blaster is bad enough but coupled with the cut down version of QuickRemote on the G Pad it's down right punitive. I would love to see the business justification for doing this. Yes, they provide an SDK with documentation... So compelling that ZERO apps have been developed with it. LG needs to step up and unlock the ir, integrate code translation into an update and just set it free. Doing things this way isnt't going to win them any hearts and minds, least of all mine.

I haven't had any problems with 3rd party apps with it on my vk810 vzw. You saying that you can't get it to learn codes? Wouldn't it have to have a ir reciever also? Or do the it emitter work both ways?

4218kris said:
I haven't had any problems with 3rd party apps with it on my vk810 vzw. You saying that you can't get it to learn codes? Wouldn't it have to have a ir reciever also? Or do the it emitter work both ways?
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What ROM are you running and what 3rd party apps have you tested that work with the ir blaster? There is no ir sensor so I know it can't learn codes. The hardware interface to the ir blaster on the V500 is encrypted and to date only works with the LG QuickRemote app.

AlrightMister said:
What ROM are you running and what 3rd party apps have you tested that work with the ir blaster? There is no ir sensor so I know it can't learn codes. The hardware interface to the ir blaster on the V500 is encrypted and to date only works with the LG QuickRemote app.
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Stock ROM, the vk810 works with all the apps if tried so far that are available on google play store.

4218kris said:
Stock ROM, the vk810 works with all the apps if tried so far that are available on google play store.
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Couple of possibilities here. Either they used different ir hardware in the otherwise nearly identical LTE version or there is something in the software that unlocks it. I'm hoping software. Can you name a couple of the apps that worked by name so that us V500 users can try them to verify if they work or not for us?(won't work ) Then I guess it's off down the road of stirring up some interest to pick apart the stock vk810 ROM to see what's up with this unlocked ir blaster. Thanks! :good:

AlrightMister said:
Couple of possibilities here. Either they used different ir hardware in the otherwise nearly identical LTE version or there is something in the software that unlocks it. I'm hoping software. Can you name a couple of the apps that worked by name so that us V500 users can try them to verify if they work or not for us?(won't work ) Then I guess it's off down the road of stirring up some interest to pick apart the stock vk810 ROM to see what's up with this unlocked ir blaster. Thanks! :good:
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I'll try some again tonight after work

Your right I couldn't get any to work I could have sworn it was my tablet I downloaded remotes for, must have been my HTC one sorry for the confusion.

Hey no problem. Thanks for checking. :good:

Swoncen said:
Hello,
I'm the owner of a brandnew G Pad 8.3 and I'm very happy with it. I just found out, that you can actually use the infrared sensor to turn on/off your devices (TV, Video-Audio Receiver, etc.) but the pre-installed app is limited to TV, Bluray players and DVD players. I found some other apps to simply learn IR codes for other devices but they dont work on my G Pad. I've heard, that one can only access the IR sensor with the LG SDK, and most (probably all) apps wont be able to use this sensor. Does anyone have a solution for this problem?
Best Regards
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Have this problem on the LG Pad 7.0 lte, while using a digital cam I can see the IR with the stock app, other apps don't send the IR signal.

LG has not opened up the api. Therefore the non stock remote apps do not work.

Any news on this? Could we not just replace the locked LG IR 'driver' with an open one? (I'm aware that 'driver' isn't the right word, but forgotten the android equivalent >_<)

crimsonnight said:
Any news on this? Could we not just replace the locked LG IR 'driver' with an open one? (I'm aware that 'driver' isn't the right word, but forgotten the android equivalent >_<)
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With my admittedly small experience in this area, I would guess someone would have to write one from scratch / reverse-engineer the original one in order to get anywhere.

Will running a custom rom bypass the Ir restrictions ?

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[Q] bt keyboard INC2 with evervolv 3.2

Hey All,
As the title (I hope) indicates, I'm looking to get a bluetooth keyboard to hook up to my INC2. I (suppose) foolishly bought a keyboard already (Motorola Xoom) and I thought no prob- updated software, bluetooth is bluetooth, and I should be good to go. Not so. I can pair them, but I cant get they keyboard to actually work as an input device.
Also, I cant seem to pair that keyboard (successfully) with my PS3. I dont think I'm just bad at pairing things, as I'm able to do it with tons of other stuff, so I'm looking for advice. Did I pair it wrong somehow? Do I need to get a different keyboard? Will the INC2 just not work with keyboards?
Thanks so much!
Sleepraider
nothing?Any thoughts? Is the keyboard crap? Is this a obvious thing that I missed? Any keyboards known to work that are relatively inexpensive?
See if you can find an app on the market that supports bluetooth keyboard support, Most often what you need is a substitute keyboard app, kind of like when people hook up PS3 remotes or wii motes to their phones. Here's a link to an app I just quickly searched up as an example. I can't personally vouch for it though.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.mybesttools.btkbservice&feature=search_result
lightninjay said:
See if you can find an app on the market that supports bluetooth keyboard support, Most often what you need is a substitute keyboard app, kind of like when people hook up PS3 remotes or wii motes to their phones. Here's a link to an app I just quickly searched up as an example. I can't personally vouch for it though.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.mybesttools.btkbservice&feature=search_result
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Alright.. I'm giving it a quick try right now. Had thought I tried that app, but I tried a ton w/o any success., so I'll try again.
FWIW, this is one of the most important features for me at this point, so I'll do any ROM the INC2 can handle if it means making this work.
Sleep
Tried it.. and pretty much every decent looking app I could find in the app market.
Testing now to see if I can pair my new keyboard to my desktop via bluetooth and if that works. Maybe the keyboard is actually dysfunctional?
sleepraider said:
Tried it.. and pretty much every decent looking app I could find in the app market.
Testing now to see if I can pair my new keyboard to my desktop via bluetooth and if that works. Maybe the keyboard is actually dysfunctional?
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I'm back and I wanted to supply more info. I connected the bt keyboard I just bought with my desktop.. it works great on there.
I connected my desktop BT keyboard to my phone-- same prob; it pairs, never connects. Looking much more like a phone/software issue IMO.
Wondering if this is the phone (shouldnt be, right?) or if this is my ROM. If its the ROM, any ROM that might work? Any solution....at all?
sleepraider said:
I'm back and I wanted to supply more info. I connected the bt keyboard I just bought with my desktop.. it works great on there.
I connected my desktop BT keyboard to my phone-- same prob; it pairs, never connects. Looking much more like a phone/software issue IMO.
Wondering if this is the phone (shouldnt be, right?) or if this is my ROM. If its the ROM, any ROM that might work? Any solution....at all?
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The only way you're going to know if it has any possibility with working is if you can pair it on the stock official (or close to official, ie...andybones stock) software. If it doesn't work there, it's highly unlikely that it will work on any rom. If it does, then you'll probably have to just try each rom one at a time. I don't think that's a highly sought after feature for other people though, so it's unlikely much development has been put into it.
gtdtm said:
The only way you're going to know if it has any possibility with working is if you can pair it on the stock official (or close to official, ie...andybones stock) software. If it doesn't work there, it's highly unlikely that it will work on any rom. If it does, then you'll probably have to just try each rom one at a time. I don't think that's a highly sought after feature for other people though, so it's unlikely much development has been put into it.
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Sadly, I think this is true and I just need to find a different solution. I'm a grad student and where I work blocks my gmail, which was the main reason I wanted the keyboard, so I could type well formed responses while at work when not busy, and not have to wait to do all my "student work" when I get home from work. I guess I'll likely end up finding another solution. Perhaps I can use my netbook with my phone and get a wifi hotspot going to be able to answer emails? I guess I need to toy a bit more.
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sleepraider said:
Sadly, I think this is true and I just need to find a different solution. I'm a grad student and where I work blocks my gmail, which was the main reason I wanted the keyboard, so I could type well formed responses while at work when not busy, and not have to wait to do all my "student work" when I get home from work. I guess I'll likely end up finding another solution. Perhaps I can use my netbook with my phone and get a wifi hotspot going to be able to answer emails? I guess I need to toy a bit more.
Sleep
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It sounds like you are opposed to on-screen keyboards, but have you tried any custom ones? I can type very quickly with swiftkey...
gtdtm said:
It sounds like you are opposed to on-screen keyboards, but have you tried any custom ones? I can type very quickly with swiftkey...
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I've tried all of them.. there's nothing wrong with them.. I just dont like them. I'm an excellent typist with a typical keyboard, but I admit I just suck with touchscreen keyboards...
No worries, I just played around a bit and was able to easily set up my netbook to use for gmail while I use my phone as a hotspot. If anyone has a good app recommendation that will allow me to track how much data that actually uses, I'd love that. Seems like a much easier request than the BT keyboard request.
sleepraider said:
I've tried all of them.. there's nothing wrong with them.. I just dont like them. I'm an excellent typist with a typical keyboard, but I admit I just suck with touchscreen keyboards...
No worries, I just played around a bit and was able to easily set up my netbook to use for gmail while I use my phone as a hotspot. If anyone has a good app recommendation that will allow me to track how much data that actually uses, I'd love that. Seems like a much easier request than the BT keyboard request.
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Now I'm thinking about it.. what if I installed Ubuntu.. which would likely have the drivers for bluetooth. I'm a very experienced linux user and have 5+ years of ubuntu experience. Perhaps using ubuntu on my phone is the workaround I've been looking for! Do we know if you can use USB keyboards (I'd expect this to be true) when you install ubuntu alongside? Anyone done it well on a DINC2?
Don't know if you found a solution yet but i found this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30727046
And this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22648870
And its a kernel function not a ROM , its a hid Bluetooth driver , hope it helps
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G Pad QuickRemote App

I tried using the quickremote app and only see the option to add a TV and Cable Box with limited options. Looking on the G2 forums for the QuickRemote I see people talking about adding their Xbox, receiver, etc and also mention a custom option for having it learn devices not built in. Am I missing something or are we dealing with an limited version of the app?
Maybe I'll have to try an alternate IR app. Would really like something that can do activities similar to the Harmony remotes. I still use my Harmony One with a broken screen.
True, true. Looks like the G Pad got something like a light version of the G2's QuickRemote. I was searching for 3rd party IR remote controls but haven't find anything.
I used an ir remote app on my Samsung tab 3. But it doesn't work on the G PAD. And here is why:
" Unfortunately our app doesn't work on the*G PAD*(or any other*LG*device), because*LG's IR Blaster access is locked and encrypted and we haven't been able until this point to crack that encryption. The only way to access the blaster is through*LG's sdk, which doesn't allow the use of our own database, but instead only being given access to devices already configured through QuickRemote."
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That sucks, thanks for the info. Hopefully they will update the app or allow 3rd parties to access the IR.
Anyone try the Quick Remote app from the G2?
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cbb77 said:
Anyone try the Quick Remote app from the G2?
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I tried to install QuickRemote.apk from G2 (moved apk and odex in system / app and installed the necessary rights), the application starts, but the functionality remains the same (
I think I might just bite the bullet and get one of these.
logitech.com/en-us/product/harmony-ultimate-hub?crid=60
It will have way more functionality than the QuickRemote app will ever have and also work with my wife's Nexus 10 and both our smartphones.
Also nice that it doesn't have to be in IR line of sight view for it to work.
Bought this pad for almost only one reason, to have it as a remote in my cinema.
But can only say that I fell for it to hard to change to a samsung tab instead.
As you already have implemented the remote functions of this device are worse than bad at the moment. But I emailed the folks of the TouchSquid app a while back. By the looks of it is the best suited remote app for me.
They said that when LG finally will release their codes, the TouchSquid app will be able to handle the G Pad. :highfive:
Hope it wont take to long for LG to release it though....
SleepingBear said:
Bought this pad for almost only one reason, to have it as a remote in my cinema.
But can only say that I fell for it to hard to change to a samsung tab instead.
As you already have implemented the remote functions of this device are worse than bad at the moment. But I emailed the folks of the TouchSquid app a while back. By the looks of it is the best suited remote app for me.
They said that when LG finally will release their codes, the TouchSquid app will be able to handle the G Pad. :highfive:
Hope it wont take to long for LG to release it though....
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Just curious, but what's the advantage of using QRemote over, say, a Logitech Harmony remote?
woody1 said:
Just curious, but what's the advantage of using QRemote over, say, a Logitech Harmony remote?
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At the moment I got a Harmony 1100, the worst thing with the remote is that it is so slow. Then there are other minor problems.
The G Pad will also be a universal remote for the whole home. Heat, light, surveillance, curtains and so on. So I want "one to rule it all" -kinda way remote for the house.
SleepingBear said:
The G Pad will also be a universal remote for the whole home. Heat, light, surveillance, curtains and so on. So I want "one to rule it all" -kinda way remote for the house.
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Forget it, dude, QR won't work like that. For all that stuff (heat, light etc.) you will need a complete control system connected to wifi and an app for that, or stuff something like that. QR's app and IR won't make it...
SleepingBear said:
At the moment I got a Harmony 1100, the worst thing with the remote is that it is so slow. Then there are other minor problems.
The G Pad will also be a universal remote for the whole home. Heat, light, surveillance, curtains and so on. So I want "one to rule it all" -kinda way remote for the house.
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The G Pad uses IR to control TVs, etc. Do all of your other devices also respond to IR? Also, IR requires you to be in the same room, so it's not very well suited to the kind of whole home automation you're talking about. With IR, you would have to walk around with the device to point it at the things you want to control. A system using radio would make more sense.
As far as the functions QRemote is designed to do, i.e., IR control of TV's, etc., a regular wand-style Harmony remote is a lot cheaper and does a good job.
I know it won't work with the IR, never said it either. Going to use a network based station and controll it through wifi.
It may be cheaper with a harmony remote (specially when I already got one) but where's the fun in that.
Have you tried this app Smart IR Remote? If so, does it work well?
Thanks in advance
Smart IR
altusan said:
Have you tried this app Smart IR Remote? If so, does it work well?
Thanks in advance
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I have that app on my HTC One and love it. I thought I could use it on the GPE edition but it will not work. Here is what the developer told me "Unfortunately our app doesn't work on the GPad (or any other LG device), because LG's IR Blaster access is locked and encrypted and we haven't been able until this point to crack that encryption. The only way to access the blaster is through LG's sdk, which doesn't allow the use of our own database, but instead only being given access to devices already configured through QuickRemote."
Less feature packed Quick Remote than is on LG G2(on G Pad, no "off brand" televisions for selection and only TV & settop boxes can be programmed, whereas LG G2 you can do numererous types of devices from air conditioners to Blu Ray players...
Lucien2 said:
Less feature packed Quick Remote than is on LG G2(on G Pad, no "off brand" televisions for selection and only TV & settop boxes can be programmed, whereas LG G2 you can do numererous types of devices from air conditioners to Blu Ray players...
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Yes, this was a big disappointment for me.
I have a Samsung 40" TV and a couple of IR controlled fans in my apartment and I would have loved to be ablet to controll all of them instead of just the TV...
IR blasters are becoming very common (which is a very good thing for me) among both smartphones and tablets but unfortunately very few of them can be fully taken advantage of...
I don't care much about pre-sets, all I want is a "learn function" (i.e. an IR receiver/sensor and not just a blaster, plus of course the SW to manage it).
Defiantly disappointing that the quick remote is so limited on the g pad vs the g2 weird that LG would gimp it like that hopefully they will upgrade this app to be like the phone version in functionality.
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SleepingBear said:
Bought this pad for almost only one reason, to have it as a remote in my cinema.
But can only say that I fell for it to hard to change to a samsung tab instead.
As you already have implemented the remote functions of this device are worse than bad at the moment. But I emailed the folks of the TouchSquid app a while back. By the looks of it is the best suited remote app for me.
They said that when LG finally will release their codes, the TouchSquid app will be able to handle the G Pad. :highfive:
Hope it wont take to long for LG to release it though....
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Any word from touch squid?
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Just bought it...
SleepingBear said:
Bought this pad for almost only one reason, to have it as a remote in my cinema.
But can only say that I fell for it to hard to change to a samsung tab instead.
As you already have implemented the remote functions of this device are worse than bad at the moment. But I emailed the folks of the TouchSquid app a while back. By the looks of it is the best suited remote app for me.
They said that when LG finally will release their codes, the TouchSquid app will be able to handle the G Pad. :highfive:
Hope it wont take to long for LG to release it though....
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I just bought the G Pad for the same reason, to use it to control my TV and cable box, and this sucks!!!!! the QuickRemote doesnt have my TV and Cable box, and can't use 3rd party app to use the IR blaster, has anyone found a solution? if not I'm returning this....

3rd party apps for the G3's IR blaster?

Does anybody know if the IR blaster on the LG G3 will be open to third party apps or will it be like the G2.
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I want to know this as well. I asked LG in Twitter but obviously no reply.
3rd Party Apps Support
I hate to resurrect a dead thread, but I am curious about this too. Are the drivers for the IR blaster locked down in the G3, or does it work with third party apps?
If someone who got the phone could test a few third party apps I would appreciate the favor.
Was gonna test this for you but couldn't find a decent free one. Why not use the stock remote? Pretty cool having it in the notif menu.
Wikd said:
Was gonna test this for you but couldn't find a decent free one. Why not use the stock remote? Pretty cool having it in the notif menu.
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Nice to have options but also for AOSP.
Has anyone tried Smart IR Remote or something like that?
LeVvE said:
Nice to have options but also for AOSP.
Has anyone tried Smart IR Remote or something like that?
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G3 works fine with Smart IR Remote. If you don't like it or something doesn't work as expected, just email [email protected] and you'll get a refund within 30 days.

Trick Sidesync Into Phone Mode

Hey All:
I'm on the T800, unrooted stock (I had promised my work sysadmin that I wouldn't root). I'm also using ShareKM through USB on my work PC to use my mouse and keyboard on the tablet (makes a great timeclock). Of course, this means living with the limitations of ShareKM and I expect its impending death.
I'd love to use SideSync for this feature, but Sidesync doesn't share mouse or keyboard to tablets (just to phones). Has anyone had luck persuading SideSync on the GTS to act as a phone rather than a tablet? I was thinking either through modifying build.prop to look like a GS5, using SecureSettings and Tasker, or even the Per App Settings through Xposed. All of these would require me to root, so I'd rather know that a solution works before actually rooting. Then... well I'll just not show the local tech the bootscreen and we'll be all good .
Any ideas? Has anyone tested any of these ways?
--Databoy2k
databoy2k said:
Hey All:
I'm on the T800, unrooted stock (I had promised my work sysadmin that I wouldn't root). I'm also using ShareKM through USB on my work PC to use my mouse and keyboard on the tablet (makes a great timeclock). Of course, this means living with the limitations of ShareKM and I expect its impending death.
I'd love to use SideSync for this feature, but Sidesync doesn't share mouse or keyboard to tablets (just to phones). Has anyone had luck persuading SideSync on the GTS to act as a phone rather than a tablet? I was thinking either through modifying build.prop to look like a GS5, using SecureSettings and Tasker, or even the Per App Settings through Xposed. All of these would require me to root, so I'd rather know that a solution works before actually rooting. Then... well I'll just not show the local tech the bootscreen and we'll be all good .
Any ideas? Has anyone tested any of these ways?
--Databoy2k
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Really just bumping this up. Is anyone with a rooted Tab S willing to try any of these ideas if we don't have someone who already knows?
--Databoy2k
databoy2k said:
Really just bumping this up. Is anyone with a rooted Tab S willing to try any of these ideas if we don't have someone who already knows?
--Databoy2k
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It doesn't look like Per App settings can do this. I'm still hesitant to root my tablet, but with the new Lollipop update ShareKM has officially died. I'd really appreciate if anyone else has any experience or would be willing to guinea pig on this.
--Databoy2k
databoy2k said:
It doesn't look like Per App settings can do this. I'm still hesitant to root my tablet, but with the new Lollipop update ShareKM has officially died. I'd really appreciate if anyone else has any experience or would be willing to guinea pig on this.
--Databoy2k
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I'm guessing no one attempted this at all
Tikker G said:
I'm guessing no one attempted this at all
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No, nobody did. But I do now have a rooted tablet using the Knox 0x0 root (...sshhhhh) so I might try a couple of the ideas that came up. If you're interested, I can post the results here.
So after some headache, I can confirm that I have a working App Settings Xposed Module on my Tab S... but changing the Screen (dp) setting as sometimes work doesn't actually convince SideSync that it's on a phone rather than a tablet. I'm even running an apk that I TiBu'ed over from my Galaxy S5, so I can confirm that the sidesync apk isn't what decides the platform either.
I still haven't touched my build.prop; that might be part of the equation. It'd be nice to have an xposed module that corrects this on a per-app basis, but it doesn't seem to exist.
So I reach out again to the experts - any other ideas?

Lollipop ROM with IR Blaster

Which L ROM includes the IR feature?
Currently on 4.4.2 and haven't touched my tablet in a year.
None, unfortunately. So your choices are staying on stock or flashing another ROM and losing the IR blaster.
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Not even a third party app?
smsmasters said:
Not even a third party app?
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Third party apps are currently unable to make use of whatever chip gives IR functionality on the GPAD V500. On a side note It is amazing how badly gimped the remote app on the tablet is versus on my G3 phone...
It's been awhile but I believe the port of the Quick Remote app you can find in the G2 and G3 sections worked under CM11 on my VK810.4G, so maybe it would work under CM12, also. I know it worked under stock LG Android on the VK810.4G, and also on CM11 and CM12 on the G3.
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