Noise Cancellation port from Z2 - Xperia Z1 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Whats the score with having this ported to our z1compacts?
obviously we need the headphones which is fine but is it actually worth doing?
I got my z1c today and I've flashed doomkernel and fauxsound and the so far the sound from my earphones is without a doubt AMAZING:victory: no distortion no matter how much i pre amp the music and/or tweak the EQ :highfive:
I'm wondering if there's any point in me flashing acid audio mod now
Also if there's anyone working to get the z2 features ported? or is there just no point because there's no real advantage to it?
ANY info/input would be well received.

i think noise cancelling feature isn't hardware supported by z1 compact and below since the headphone jack port requires extra pin (5 pins total) instead of the standard audio jacks (4 pins)..

kurikapooh said:
i think noise cancelling feature isn't hardware supported by z1 compact and below since the headphone jack port requires extra pin (5 pins total) instead of the standard audio jacks (4 pins)..
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Ahh right ok that clears that up then
Thanks for the response:good:

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Earphone stereo problem

I have problem using samsung wave's earphones on my hp laptop. The sounds seems crackled and in mono audio types it becomes very faint.. Either i should partially plug earphones or select mono channel in vlc player but this messes up the audio quality. But in my bro's lg optimus earphones everything is fine.
The sound quality on my wave is excellent but on my laptop its bad.. Will I need some other samsung driver or is it a common problem?? My laptop sound driver is up to date...
Thanx in advance....!
This so common
i use my earphone with my laptop and sound is excellent
My brother tried it with his laptop and sound is crap
the solution was to use the earphone half plugged and half unplugged
look for easier understanding put your earphone in your laptop and play music
now sound is just crap
unplug your earphone slowly from your laptop until you find sound is fine
i hope you get what i meant
Best Regards
Yeah even i have that problem and the solution is Given by the Post above my post !! i think its due to the THREE Strips that u can see on the HeadPhone pin on the Wave earphone (All mic included earphones have three strips and ordinary earphones have only two) !!! But better use any other ordinary earphones !!! !! Cheers mate !!!!!!
Thanx for suggestions, but i have been managing from weeks the way u told(found on some hp forum) but problem is it spoils the bass effect and sound becomes irritating rather than pleasent.... so i asked if i could get some driver which could make good use of earphone hardware like the way its played on wave....
Anyways its better i'll get some other earphones..
you dont need drivers for a 3.5 mm audio jack!.....lol
the thing is that the jack is madein such a way!
a normal 3.5 mm jack will have 3 point pin!
1 common
2 left audio
3 right audio
but if you talk about phone they have 4 point pin1
1 common
2 left audio
3 right audio
4 mic
the problem is that each company manufactures
pins with different configuration!..(so that a samsung high end earphone will not play in lg or lower end phones)
and in our headphones second point from the wire end is the mic.....so if the pin is fully plugged in you loose proper sound and when half plugged the common is outside the pin point so you get the mono effect without bass!.....lol

Nexus 5 Heaphone Jack

Hi
is nexus 5 compatible with xperia z2's headphones?
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Digital-...TF8&qid=1408513988&sr=1-2&keywords=MDR-NC31EM
i'm asking because these headphones have 5 parts in their jack...that normal ones have 3 or 4 ...
Depends on what's your definition of compatible.
If you expect to just listen to music on it, then I think it will work. ( not 100% sure though )
But if you expect the noise cancellation to work, then I'm afraid you're out of luck. The noise cancellation will only work with sony Z2 as this earphone was actually built for the Z2.
R u Sure? cuz i know noise cancellation works fine with iPhone 5 and 5s
Iphones don't have the required internal component to even support noise cancelling. It could be some software gimmick but, it's definately not the same noise cancellation as on the Z2.
i'm more concerned about nexus 5 ... does is it support 5 part headphone jacks?

Sony STM10?

Hello,
does the Z3 Series feature a 5 pol 3.5 jack? Did sony mention the compatibility of the microphone with the new z3 series?
Yes, Z3 & Z3C support / have a 5-pole 3.5mm jack, else I wouldn't know how e.g. the Sony MDR-NC31EM Digital Noise Cancelling headset could work (which they claim it does in the White Paper). Similarly, the Stereo-Mic STM10A should work, too.
stereo external microphone
sxtester said:
Yes, Z3 & Z3C support / have a 5-pole 3.5mm jack, else I wouldn't know how e.g. the Sony MDR-NC31EM Digital Noise Cancelling headset could work (which they claim it does in the White Paper). Similarly, the Stereo-Mic STM10A should work, too.
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Is there a way to use a classic (3-pole 3.5 mm jack) external stereo microphone on the Z3C ?
I already have a good one (Sony ECM-719) and would like to use it rather than buy the STM10.
Thanks

Headphone Sound Quality ?

Hi guys,
I've been reading contradicting opinions on sound quality from headphones output for this device (adapter actually). How would you rate it in terms of loudness and overall sound quality? Also, do you find it inconvenient to use in any way?
Thanks,
g
gimche said:
Hi guys,
I've been reading contradicting opinions on sound quality from headphones output for this device (adapter actually). How would you rate it in terms of loudness and overall sound quality? Also, do you find it inconvenient to use in any way?
Thanks,
g
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i dont believe thats contradicting opinions... i tested 3 or 4 handsfree (xiaomi noise cancellation usb-c, sony mdr nc-31 em and other cheapest) and i did a comparation with xperia (z3 and z5) and sound is more natural on xiaomi; loud is it enough (if u dont like ,u can root and increase manual the volume until u can damage ur ears)...is a very good phone about sound
Thanks 7tky. What I meant by contradicting, is that some reviewers claim that sound from wired headphones is awesome, and some claim it's crap. That's why I wanted to hear opinions from people that actually own and use this phone.
gimche said:
Thanks 7tky. What I meant by contradicting, is that some reviewers claim that sound from wired headphones is awesome, and some claim it's crap. That's why I wanted to hear opinions from people that actually own and use this phone.
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I'd say sound from this phone is pretty damn good, and GSMarena's tests confirm that. The phone can power pretty big headphones too. It powers Sennheiser HD6XX's pretty well and those are 300ohm cans. Obviously not close to as clear as a dedicated DAP/Amp combo but still impressive that it can power such headphones to near uncomfortable volume. Also according to a review that I can't seem to find anymore, the phone outputs analag signal from the USB-C port so the dongle doesn't have a DAC and Amp in it. All it is doing is turning the USB-C port into a 3.5mm jack which probably explains the capability to power my Sennheiser's.
Yup, I looked into this myself. I had a DAC and AMP combo for my old Moto Nexus 6 (I wasn't happy with the sound quality of the jack). This phone is surprisingly nice. I ended up buying a few extra USB C headphone adapters straight from Google (the official ones for the the Pixels were $9 when I got them). I haven't needed my DAC and AMP since switching.
And from what I've seen the DAC is internal on this phone (as opposed to the Pixel 2 which needs the DAC to be in the dongle). Idk if that allows the port to send more power straight to the headphones or not. But I'm happy.
I thought I would get annoyed by the dongle, but I ended up just ordering a few of the Google ones and keeping them on my headphones.
Plus, Viper4Android works fine for me for some additional tuning of audio (I'm using AOSP ROMs though, not MIUI, not sure if it works in MIUI).
Keep in mind I just use some Klipsch earbuds (R6, X11, and AS-5i), nothing that requires a crazy amount of power to run.
Hope this helps.
Ok, I bought the phone and tested it for a while now, so thought I might share my experience here...
With global rom phone came with (unfortunately, I don't know the version), sound quality was great, but volume was low. Further, it had a weird bug - when I was listening to music and notification cut trough, volume would jump much higher. I could easily recreate the bug by playing music, then going to sound settings and touching slider for ringtone/notification volume, then back to music. Volume would jump higher every time. Some googling reviled that lots of people experienced similar volume jumping bugs.
OTA update (again, I don't know to which miui version) fixed this, but volume was still relatively low. When I say this, I'm comparing it to my previous devices. I'm not trying to fry my ears, though it's always nice to have the option as some music is simply mastered to much lower volume, especially older stuff.
Now I'm on lineage and volume bust is just what miui was missing - few notches higher. I listen modern pumped-up stuff 2 or 3 steps below max, and crank it up to max for very low volume old stuff. Perfect balance for me.
I guess tweaking the correct config file would adjust volume limit on miui. If anyone knows how to do that, please share, it would be much appreciated.
If someone's curious about it, I'm using zero audio carbo tenore earphones.
My audioquest Dragonfly usb DAC stopped working after a MIUI upgrade on my mix 2 since the summer. That is, the phone recognises the DAC but the sound quality light stays red (instead of say, indigo) to indicate no signal.. Updating to MIUI 10 made no difference. I've confirmed it works with the 2S running Android 8 opr 1.70623.032 - My Mix 2 has opr 1.70623.027 and he meeting if that's a difference or if anyone has similar issues of a USB digital audio converter not working on their Mix 2?
paul_mcbride said:
if anyone has similar issues of a USB digital audio converter not working on their Mix 2?
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I'm interested in answer to this question too. Have you tried messing with developer options? Is the problem miui related ; did someone test on linage / aosp based roms?
...anyone tried this thing?
bleached45 said:
Yup, I looked into this myself. I had a DAC and AMP combo for my old Moto Nexus 6 (I wasn't happy with the sound quality of the jack). This phone is surprisingly nice. I ended up buying a few extra USB C headphone adapters straight from Google (the official ones for the the Pixels were $9 when I got them). I haven't needed my DAC and AMP since switching.
And from what I've seen the DAC is internal on this phone (as opposed to the Pixel 2 which needs the DAC to be in the dongle). Idk if that allows the port to send more power straight to the headphones or not. But I'm happy.
I thought I would get annoyed by the dongle, but I ended up just ordering a few of the Google ones and keeping them on my headphones.
Plus, Viper4Android works fine for me for some additional tuning of audio (I'm using AOSP ROMs though, not MIUI, not sure if it works in MIUI).
Keep in mind I just use some Klipsch earbuds (R6, X11, and AS-5i), nothing that requires a crazy amount of power to run.
Hope this helps.
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Is the google dongle more sturdy? i have a Brainwavz HM5 which have a thick cable and the flimsy cable in the dongle supplied with the mi mix 2s feels like it will break any second from the weight of the cable on my HM5.
i skipped the original adapter and buy a new adapter(it's a dac hidizs sonata hd )
and use with my earphones is 1more triple driver.
no comment for that, oh i just forgot that, 1 word - perfect :v

Which ROM has the best audio quality from the 3.5mm headphone jack?

I have been trying a lot of custom ROMs recently on my Z2 Plus and I noticed the audio quality from the 3.5mm headphone jack is not particularly good on any of them. When listening to a piece of music or a podcast with quiet sections, a crackling noise is audible that makes it hard to hear any detail in the audio. The problem is most notable at low volume levels of just a few notches. I tried disabling any audio enhancements like the 'AudioFX' app that comes with Lineage-based ROMs, but this did not make much difference.
I listened to the same MP3 files on my ZTE Axon 7 and the audio is crystal-clear with no crackling present in the slightest. I'm using a pair of Audio Technica ATH-M50 monitor headphones.
I know the ZTE Axon 7 has a Hi-Fi audio DAC which might explain why it sounds so much clearer, but I didn't expect the difference to be this much... Is the bad audio quality just a limitation of the ZUK Z2's hardware, or is it something that the custom ROMs are not implementing correctly?
Which ROMs have the clearest audio quality from the headphone jack?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lenovo-zuk-z2/themes/magisk-v17-x-zero-audio-patch-t3843893
Flash this mod and use neutron/ poweramp with 24 bit hifi audio enabled.
There is a noticable difference in audio quality
senthamizhan said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lenovo-zuk-z2/themes/magisk-v17-x-zero-audio-patch-t3843893
Flash this mod and use neutron/ poweramp with 24 bit hifi audio enabled.
There is a noticable difference in audio quality
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Thanks, I actually tried both of these tips before making this thread but I wasn't overwhelmed by the difference in audio quality... When playing music I still hear the crackling/static kind of noise during the quiet parts. I think it's probably a limitation of the hardware more than anything else.
Do you guys think using a 3.5mm to Type-C adapter with a built-in DAC would solve this problem? Then I could play music through the Type-C port instead of using the headphone jack.
P650SE said:
Thanks, I actually tried both of these tips before making this thread but I wasn't overwhelmed by the difference in audio quality... When playing music I still hear the crackling/static kind of noise during the quiet parts. I think it's probably a limitation of the hardware more than anything else.
Do you guys think using a 3.5mm to Type-C adapter with a built-in DAC would solve this problem? Then I could play music through the Type-C port instead of using the headphone jack.
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You can always use a external dac via usb c port. Someone from zukfans.eu said it is working. But external dacs are expensive. Type c to 3.5mm jack adapters wont do anything if it does not have any dac inbuilt
senthamizhan said:
You can always use a external dac via usb c port. Someone from zukfans.eu said it is working. But external dacs are expensive. Type c to 3.5mm jack adapters wont do anything if it does not have any dac inbuilt
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Okay, thanks. The reason I mentioned the Type-C adapters is because I thought some of them were marketed as having an inbuilt DAC. But that could be wrong and the ZUK might not have compatibly to use it anyway.
Yeah, I don't like the thought of buying an external DAC since I don't intend on keeping this phone much longer anyway. I'm just having trouble choosing my next handset since the smartphone market is so stagnant at the moment. LG V30 would be good for audio quality but it uses PWM which hurts my eyes too much.
try paranoid rom nougat version, it was the only rom in which I felt the audio quality was better. ZUK 2 clearly have poor hardware, my old moto g3 sounds much better.

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