Should I upgrade to tab s? - Galaxy Tab Pro 12.2, 10.1, 8.4 Q&A, Help & Trouble

I love my 2 month old tab pro 8.4, love its pixel density and speed
Does the tab s has a better pixel density? Should I switch to the 10.5
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Same pixel density as Pro (359). Differences are S has super AMOLED screen, 32gb storage, 3gb RAM and Exynos chips.
IDK......not enough of an upgrade to make me spend the cash.

I asked myself the same question. The Tab S doesn't offer anything new that I want, and I dislike how the back side looks. I just want to enjoy the excellent device that I already have. I say get what you think will satisfy you in the long run, or else you will fall into the trap of upgrading to a new tablet every 2-3 months. =/

animedreamer240 said:
I asked myself the same question. The Tab S doesn't offer anything new that I want, and I dislike how the back side looks. I just want to enjoy the excellent device that I already have. I say get what you think will satisfy you in the long run, or else you will fall into the trap of upgrading to a new tablet every 2-3 months. =/
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A few people in another thread who have seen the S model have said that the screen did not look noticeably better than the Pro.

Does s model AMOLED share subpixels like they do on my old galaxy s4? Because that caused letters on screen to have fuzzy little hair.
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sharpehenry said:
Does s model AMOLED share subpixels like they do on my old galaxy s4? Because that caused letters on screen to have fuzzy little hair.
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Rumor has it that it does use subpixels. It's supposedly a AMOLED, not Super AMOLED.
I've always preferred LCD so will be sticking with my Tab Pro 10.1. Though, I'll check out the Tab S today at Best Buy. I hear they have an instore price of $249 on the Tab Pro 8.4. If true, that's one hell of a price for a phenomenal tablet.

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Rumor has it that it does use subpixels.
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Tab S 8.4 is confirmed (at least somewhat, based on the following link - and I've seen it stated as pentile on other websites) to be a pentile display (subpixels); while the Tab S 10.4 is RGB stripe: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8168/samsungs-galaxy-tab-s-105-84-hands-on-with-samsungs-66mm-thin-tablets
Reviews around the web, and opinions on XDA I've read say the AMOLED is not significantly better or worse than the LCD on the Tab Pro models, just "different". Colors are a tad over-saturated, while blacks are a bit more true. If you like/dislike the AMOLED displays on the Samsung phones, your opinion will likely be the same for the Tab S.
Aside from the increased storage and RAM, I don't see this as much of an upgrade. And certainly not willing to buy another device after 2 months.
A bit questionable for Samsung to be releasing such similar devices so close together. I suppose choices are always good. But it gets to the point where they are just over-saturating the market (and maybe that is the intent?) and confusing the customer.

I'm more intrigued with almost double the battery time

yodan4 said:
I'm more intrigued with almost double the battery time
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Me too... based on Anand's tests the Tab S has better battery life for video playback than any other tablet currently out including the mighty IPad Air.
I have the Tab Pro and like it as well but the new device rocks with battery life.
I'd like to see application testing though. Video playback is definitely of value (I travel and watch videos) but I rarely spend hours on the tablet for internet use (that's what my computers are for).
However I do read a lot on my tablet and it would be interesting to see how long it lasts compared to the Tab Pro.

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Me too... based on Anand's tests the Tab S has better battery life for video playback than any other tablet currently out including the mighty IPad Air.
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Was a bit intrigued by the comments on battery life, and read the review. Hardly seems like an objective test. The reviewer states that they used a movie with lots of dark scenes which greatly favors the AMOLED screen. So this doesn't tell you much of anything . . . unless you only watch dark movies all the time!
Would have been nice to see more data points, and for various movies to be played.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8197/samsung-galaxy-tab-s-review-105-84inch/3
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yodan4 said:
I'm more intrigued with almost double the battery time
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Where are you seeing double the battery time? Anandtech is showing 50% more for video playback (15 hours versus 10) and less time for internet browsing.

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Has anyone here switched to/tried extensively a Mega 6.3??

I am seriously thinking about downgrading (specs-wise) from my Note II to the Mega 6.3 simply for its screen size. 6.3" is just about the PERFECT display size I have ALWAYS wanted.
After 15 months with the OG Note and 5/6 with the Note II I planned to upgrade to a Note III in the fall but since it seems it will only have a 5.99" display and a 6.3" display *is* on the market, I can't stand to go for the worse choice. Especially since it is "almost a Note", I mean it has almost all of the hardware and software features which make Samsung top-end smartphones the ONLY smartphones I would buy today.
The biggest problem are not losing the S-Pen, losing AMOLED and losing 2 cores, the biggest problem is losing 512MB of RAM...
So, seeing as the Mega 6.3 is now available in Europe, I need to know from someone who has been using a Note II what's it like to switch to a Mega 6.3, especially in regard to the lesser RAM with heavy multitasking and to the display quality.
YouTube comparisons I have watched so far are pretty useless but I have some more to watch.
BTW, if you have come across some *good* and in-depth comparisons please point them out.
P.S. When a Galaxy Mega 6.3 forum on XDA??
The mega series is a midrange level phone. It's almost certainly going to choke under heavy multitasking. It's meant for people who aren't heavy users but just want a bigger screen for cpu light tasks like pictures, maps, reading, etc.
Ignore the screen size change and it's significantly worse than the note 2.
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I would also like to have a bigger screen than my Note II, but with Mega there is almost certainly too much to compromise.
I am looking forward for Sony's 6.44 inch device to be announced soon.
ChodTheWacko said:
The mega series is a midrange level phone. It's almost certainly going to choke under heavy multitasking.
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It will slow down for sure, *by how much* is the question...
Anyway, since I am not interested in games in the slightest, my main concern is not a slower or laggier phone (since the difference in anything but games is very likely going to be acceptable for me), is just apps switching and how many of them can it maintain active in the RAM with their inputted data and in the state I have left them...
It's meant for people who aren't heavy users but just want a bigger screen for cpu light tasks like pictures, maps, reading, etc.
Ignore the screen size change and it's significantly worse than the note 2.
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Well.. yeah, of course it's worse than the Note II in pretty much everything.. my whole point was that I just can't "ignore the screen size" and was trying to understand by how much exactly everything else is worse than the Note II...
If it's not too much I might be willing to compromise in order to get a PERFECT SIZE display.
just wait for the note 3....
hagba said:
I would also like to have a bigger screen than my Note II, but with Mega there is almost certainly too much to compromise.
I am looking forward for Sony's 6.44 inch device to be announced soon.
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Yeah there is the Huawei Ascend Mate at 6.1" too but this (and most likely the Sony as well) has a f*cking integrated battery so that's the biggest deal braker of all right there and I can't even be bothered to go over the rest of their specs... Useless junk.
The LG Optimus Pro would be an alternative worthy of consideration if its screen wasn't just 5.5". Too small an improvement in screen size to consider switching over from Samsung HW and SW (both of which I LOVE).
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just wait for the note 3....
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That's what I was/am doing but it seems more and more likely that it will have a 5.99" display... (and yeah, I would buy it in a heartbeat but would still be pissed at having to give up bigger displays which already exist today!).
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That's what I was/am doing but it seems more and more likely that it will have a 5.99" display... (and yeah, I would buy it in a heartbeat but would still be pissed at having to give up bigger displays which already exist today!).
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miss for like few months, big deal! You will be getting 1080p too.
FinancialWar said:
miss for like few months, big deal! You will be getting 1080p too.
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It's not just the wait, it's the fact that its display size (if it's confirmed at 5.99") will be SMALLER than SEVERAL competitors (one from Samsung itself!) which are much closer to or exactly my ideal size!!
P.S. I care much more about a perfect size than 1080p since we aren't talking low res displays in any case here, 720p for a 6.3" display is very much OK with me (not ideal, of course. 1080p would be ideal).
Follow up: the Mega is a no-go, I have reverted back to wait for the Note III.
The smaller RAM is too much of an handicap and the Mega sold in Europe is the 8GB/LTE variant and not the 16GB/3G. LTE is pretty much still useless over here and I would much rather have 16GB of internal storage (at a lower price to boot!)...
Plus, there are ton of original accessories already available (including all of the ones I always get for my smartphones) but the Brodit car dock (the ones I use) is not available for the Mega and IDK if and where it will be and the Samsung one is the only original accessory that is not available...
It'll eventually slow down as apps getting updates and requires more cpu and ram
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I have had the Mega 6.3 for about a week now. I have had the Note 2, as well as, S4. Here's my experience so far.
--Software is identical to the S4 (airview and all that good stuff)
--Very slim body compare to the Note 2
--Battery lasts surprising well (I'm a power user)
--The display is quite amazing. I wasn't expecting much, but I am truely impressed.
--Similar sound quality as the S4
--Have not noticed any lag at all. Very fluid.
I'm trying to think of negatives, but nothing is coming to mind except:
--No dedicated XDA forum
--No Root/CWM/ROM yet
--Looking for an extra battery or charger, but could not find on Amazon or anywhere.
--There are some batteries on eBay from China...but, not gonna gamble with those.
I'm running it on T-Mobile. I'm in refarmed 4G area. There's LTE available here as well, but can't pick it up
Overall, on paper spec-wise...might seem like an inferior phone. However, in really world experience, I'm truly and utterly impressed. Not going back to my Note 2 at all. it's a godsend for ebook readings and Youtube watching.
knite75 said:
I have had the Mega 6.3 for about a week now. I have had the Note 2, as well as, S4. Here's my experience so far.
--Software is identical to the S4 (airview and all that good stuff)
--Very slim body compare to the Note 2
--Battery lasts surprising well (I'm a power user)
--The display is quite amazing. I wasn't expecting much, but I am truely impressed.
--Similar sound quality as the S4
--Have not noticed any lag at all. Very fluid.
I'm trying to think of negatives, but nothing is coming to mind except:
--No dedicated XDA forum
--No Root/CWM/ROM yet
--Looking for an extra battery or charger, but could not find on Amazon or anywhere.
--There are some batteries on eBay from China...but, not gonna gamble with those.
I'm running it on T-Mobile. I'm in refarmed 4G area. There's LTE available here as well, but can't pick it up
Overall, on paper spec-wise...might seem like an inferior phone. However, in really world experience, I'm truly and utterly impressed. Not going back to my Note 2 at all. it's a godsend for ebook readings and Youtube watching.
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Many thanks for the reply but the only thing I was researching and could not find a clear answer for was how 1.5GB RAM impacts heavy multitasking as opposed to 2GB RAM..
As for the original accessories I don't know where you are based but over here ALL of the original Samsung accessories (various pouches, covers, cases, batteries, chargers, separate battery chargers, desktop dock ecc) are available (and pretty cheap too) minus the car dock.
xdapao3 said:
Yeah there is the Huawei Ascend Mate at 6.1" too but this (and most likely the Sony as well) has a f*cking integrated battery so that's the biggest deal braker of all right there
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This.
As for the RAM.. Has there ever been a point when you've checked and seen that your GN2 was using more than 1.5GB? If not, then you'll be fine. If so, then I'm sure managing your RAM a little better is worth if for the 'perfect screen size'
I have seen its review on youtube...its available ram is only 1.1 gb sumthing .. n most of the time note 2 consumes 1.1gb something ..so i think ram can cause you problem...
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Also its not what RAM you use currently, its what your useage demand will be in say 6mnths time. We all know that a phone that had enough when we bought it often feels crippled halfway through ownership as more & more demand is placed on it.
A new phone needs to have twice the RAM you currently need.
Note 3 screen is an 8% increase in size & that's plenty extra for me.
KCA. said:
This.
As for the RAM.. Has there ever been a point when you've checked and seen that your GN2 was using more than 1.5GB? If not, then you'll be fine. If so, then I'm sure managing your RAM a little better is worth if for the 'perfect screen size'
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Nope, unfortunately. As said, upon further research plus some empirical tests 1.5GB RAM is really too little RAM for me. I have to pass..
taran181 said:
I have seen its review on youtube...its available ram is only 1.1 gb sumthing .. n most of the time note 2 consumes 1.1gb something ..so i think ram can cause you problem...
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Yep, RAM size is one of the specs I care most, nowadays.
I am not a gamer and I don't terribly mind some small slowdown and lag here and there but available RAM and display size are THE things which really let you use your smartphone as a "pocket computer" so I am not willing to compromise on those as much as I may on some other things.
Pat. said:
Also its not what RAM you use currently, its what your useage demand will be in say 6mnths time. We all know that a phone that had enough when we bought it often feels crippled halfway through ownership as more & more demand is placed on it.
A new phone needs to have twice the RAM you currently need.
Note 3 screen is an 8% increase in size & that's plenty extra for me.
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I don't think that in 6 months I will be using double the RAM I am now doing the same things but I would surely appreciate 3 GB of RAM on the next Note!
An 8% increase in display size is definitely NOT what I am looking for in the next Note. I am, and have *always* been, looking forward to a 6.3"/6.5" display (depending on the bezel and aspect ratio, of course).
That's my ideal. Always have been (I was talking about those dimensions back when 4" seemed "huge" to most folks), always will be.
We will get there and people will get it, in the end. But these small steps are somewhat frustating (especially since a big part of the reasons for these baby steps is just people's dumbness).
I believe the "ultimate" screen sizes around which future smartphones will coalesce will be 5" and 6.3"/6.5".
My old note & my note2 both "disappeared" when not in use.. as in i forget its there .. i do alot of outdoor activity like cycling & i have the phone in my front Jean pocket, a 5.9" with small bezel will also be viable.
Its fairly clear that 6.3" is simply too big for that & Samsung do alot of research on this.
People will buy 6.3" phones but not in huge numbers like the 5.9 Note3.
Samsung know that huge numbers of people wont buy a phone they can't put in their jeans. I wonder how many people who want a 6.3" screen have made a dummy from wood ETC & tried it ... its BIG ..

[Q] Should i buy note 2014?

Hello everyone
I am searching for a new tablet to buy and am really intrested in note series (sPen!). I have few questions for galaxy note 2014 owners:
1. Is it comfortable for reading or is it too big for that? Thats my main concern- i need a tablet for my e- books, studying.
2. How much time it takes battery to drop to 0 (with +- energy saving settings)?
3. Do you find sPen useful or just a gimmick? Especially for note taking?
4. Is this tablet worth the money/ what other tabs you recommend?
I come from iPad mini. This tablet really hurt my eyes, so i think i need a tablet with greater resolution since i read a lot. And no, i dont want retina iPad, i prefer android. I am also thinking about note 8.0, it is a lot of cheaper option too, but i want a 9- 10 inch tablet, its resolution is lower.. ah help me >.<
gintariukeas said:
Hello everyone
I am searching for a new tablet to buy and am really intrested in note series (sPen!). I have few questions for galaxy note 2014 owners:
1. Is it comfortable for reading or is it too big for that? Thats my main concern- i need a tablet for my e- books, studying.
2. How much time it takes battery to drop to 0 (with +- energy saving settings)?
3. Do you find sPen useful or just a gimmick? Especially for note taking?
4. Is this tablet worth the money/ what other tabs you recommend?
I come from iPad mini. This tablet really hurt my eyes, so i think i need a tablet with greater resolution since i read a lot. And no, i dont want retina iPad, i prefer android. I am also thinking about note 8.0, it is a lot of cheaper option too, but i want a 9- 10 inch tablet, its resolution is lower.. ah help me >.<
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I also came from an iPad mini (the original one), so I'm right on the same page. The resolution on that device wasn't so hot.
1) I think it's perfect for reading. It really depends where you're reading, though. If you're worried about the size, just get a textbook or something of similar size, and judge it for yourself. For me, it works great for reading.
2) I haven't timed the battery myself. For the size, I feel like it has pretty decent battery life. I use it to take notes during classes, and in a 3 hour class, with the screen on the entire time, I see about a 100 to 70 percent drop. I'm happy with that.
3) The sPen is a LIFE SAVER! I use it all the time for taking notes. I use the Stylus Beta keyboard (on the Playstore) and it works exceptionally. With stylus beta and evernote, it's the perfect setup for me. Much faster than messing around with the onscreen keyboard.
4) It depends how much it is now. I haven't really looked recently. It has been out for awhile now, so I wouldn't pay full price now like I did when I bought it. Shop around, for sure. I've been really happy with my tablet though. It's a HUGE upgrade from the iPad mini in every way, shape, and form.
I've had them all ipad mini, air, note 8, note pro 12.2 and note 2014 10.1. The note 10.1 is perfect and I tell you why..
Ipad mini to restricted by Apple and I hate iTunes.
Ipad air, same reasons as mini.
Note 8, perfect portability, but s pen sucked because you had to write 45 degree angle or higher, plus s pen not good on small screen.
Note pro, loved it but portability sucked, to heavy, and not with $650.
10.1 perfect size and functions.
If you're smart buy a used one off ebay or Craig'slist. You can find them for $350
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gintariukeas said:
1. Is it comfortable for reading or is it too big for that? Thats my main concern- i need a tablet for my e- books, studying.
2. How much time it takes battery to drop to 0 (with +- energy saving settings)?
3. Do you find sPen useful or just a gimmick? Especially for note taking?
4. Is this tablet worth the money/ what other tabs you recommend?
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1. Very comfortable for me, I mainly use it for reading.
2. Without energy saving, I only charge it once every 3 days with my usage, but you can google for non-stop results. I think it's 11 hours for browsing and 4-5 hours for movies. Not sure.
3. I don't use it for anything.
4. If you buy on Amazon or Ebay, it's worth the money, but don't go to local shops if you live in EU, they have too high prices.
gintariukeas said:
1. Is it comfortable for reading or is it too big for that? Thats my main concern- i need a tablet for my e- books, studying.
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It's thin and light enough, with a screen that's big enough. you were on an iPad, so you understand tablet reading -it is what it is... Never quite the same as the real thing, but an acceptable compromise.
gintariukeas said:
2. How much time it takes battery to drop to 0 (with +- energy saving settings)?
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This really depends on what you've got running. If you let it idle, it will survive until day four. If you play some games watch some movies, browse some sites, it's possible to drain the battery in 5 hours. Generally speaking, on moderate to heavy use, you can get by on a charge per day.
gintariukeas said:
3. Do you find sPen useful or just a gimmick? Especially for note taking?
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Somewhere between a gimmick and a handy tool. There are some apps that will let you take some advantage of the S-Pen's functionality, and Samsung has a few, especially if you're thinking of it as an alternate interface/input method (in which case it's superb). But if you're thinking this will replace your paper and pen; meh, I wouldn't throw away my notebooks and pencils just yet. The truth is the current technology (Wacom, N-Trig, etc.) will always lag behind your hand writing, and there will always be a glitch here and there (no matter how beastly the hardware you're using is). There will be people who swear by it. They are lying; most likely to themselves. This can be a tolerable compromise, but it will never match a [hardware] keyboard or a pen and paper -and it's not exactly the perfect amalgamation either. In a pinch it will certainly do, and for annotating PDFs and whatnot, it's tough to beat -but a real book and a real pen is just orders of magnitude superior. Where this compromise takes lead is in the fact that one book weighs several of these, while one of these can be multitudes of books, the internet, a gaming console, and so much more (which by now you understand -based on your iPad Mini experience).
gintariukeas said:
4. Is this tablet worth the money/ what other tabs you recommend?
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Honestly? I really want to say yes, but the answer is no. Two reasons: 1 It's a Samsung. Samsung is shoddy workmanship backed by worse customer support. 2 At this price you're starting to encroach on surface pro price range, and the Fujitsu Stylistic Q584. Yes, these machines do cost a little more -but they also do everything you expect from a computer. And if you're thinking of the pen -OneNote is king among all. A [non-Windows] tablet is a consumption device with some communication and minimal productivity capabilities. At the price Samsung is asking, it's not worth it.
gintariukeas said:
I come from iPad mini. This tablet really hurt my eyes, so i think i need a tablet with greater resolution since i read a lot. And no, i dont want retina iPad, i prefer android. I am also thinking about note 8.0, it is a lot of cheaper option too, but i want a 9- 10 inch tablet, its resolution is lower.. ah help me >.<
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So for question five [Do you recommend/would you do again]
I have a love-hate relation with android (especially Samsung). It promises so much, and the kicker is that it often does deliver... just not quite the way you'd expect. It's a little like "Bedazzled " where the devil grants your wish, but in a way that nearly renders it moot. I dislike iOS because of its limited functionality, general interface (lack of buttons and setting menus on apps themselves) -and quite frankly the active digitizer is a great tool. But iOS is consistent, robust and reliable. So, I will be forfeiting my Note 10.1 2014 in to an iPad Air [but I'll be forfeiting my iPhone 5s for a note 3 (or 4)].
If ever I do get another Android tablet -it will never cost this much again, because they're not worth it. I regret getting my note 10.1. You got to take that with a grain of salt, given my personal experience which is unlikely [yet possible] to be yours.
How do I reconcile paying nearly as much for a note phone? they're nearly everything the tablet ought to be in a much more wield-able form factor with an actual [good] usable camera. Who is going to tote around their tablet all day every day? Who is going to pull that behemoth out to snap a quick shot? Not I. But the Phablet? For me, it's just the right size to take everywhere every time; and it's smaller than most real cameras (or close enough).
How would I reconcile paying nearly as much for an iPad. Apple's customer service is a little more robust than Samsung. And limited though these devices are -they do what they are designed to do -far more reliably and consistently than most of the android devices I have owned. And like it or not, an Apple product is an Apple product. You take that out, and people around you know what's the deal. But when you unleash your Samsung Note 10.1 2014 people look at it, and know it's a tablet that wishes it could bear the prestige of an Apple product. True nerds will think "wow cool!" Everyone else will think "cheap knock-off wanna-be iPad". Who cares? You shouldn't. But I now realize, I do (a little), because for that price I prefer the prestigious ice-breaker, than trying to justify the awesomeness of my [now defunct, probably still working had it been an iPad] device. Last but not least, I was an early adopter of the Windows 8 tablets and I have a Sony Vaio 11 [regrettably -now that Q584 and Surface Pro 3 are viable options]; and thus it's going to have to be a while before I get another Windows tablet. (I'm inclined to wait until at least Windows 9+).
Maybe this is a little (or a lot) more than you asked for. But I wish someone would have warned me.
Lastly, on the note 8. Unless it's less than 1/3 the cost of the note 10.1 2014 -it's a bad move. Note 8 has all the shortcomings of the 10.1 plus the fact that it's inferior hardware (not least of which is the screen quality), thus amplifying all the pangs. Not to mention you just got done complaining about the iPad mini for being too small.
TLDR;
No. Don't get it. I'm sure there are tons of people who will tell you that it's a good get. I'm sure they have favorable experiences -and there is a lot to love there. But in the end it's not worth the price because it's Samsung and it's Android. At that price point you might as well spend a few bucks more and get Windows (but not RT!) especially if you're serious about it as a study tool: OneNote crushes everything that does and does not exists in the multi-universe. Otherwise pay less and get something else.
gintariukeas said:
1. Is it comfortable for reading or is it too big for that? Thats my main concern- i need a tablet for my e- books, studying.
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i think it's a great size and light to hold, fine for reading texts, pdfs, books (Kobo), websites. i was surprised to find it was smaller than my TF700 (piece of crap!) -- Sammy did a great job with the side bezels.
gintariukeas said:
2. How much time it takes battery to drop to 0 (with +- energy saving settings)?
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depends on how much you use it. it's not my only tool for work/leisure, but i would charge between every one and two days. (also, for me it takes about 5hrs charge to go from 20% to 100%.)
gintariukeas said:
3. Do you find sPen useful or just a gimmick? Especially for note taking?
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very useful for me (print designer): making notes at meetings (sNote out of the box), marking up text and layouts and pdfs and images. doing revisions this way is much more efficient that printing out (or waiting for) a colour proof, marking that up, and then couriering it to a client — especially if i'm working remotely or in transit somewhere. i can't go entirely paperless of course, but for everything up to final colour proofs, it's works great.
scrapbook is also really handy when tripping through websites or videos. the one thing i've no use for is the windows function though. that said, the sPen really changed my perspective on what a tablet can/should do: i won't buy another tablet with out sPen or similar capability.
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4. Is this tablet worth the money/ what other tabs you recommend?
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if you need sPen, want a 2K screen, and you like Android, this is THE ONLY tablet to get. i waited until KK came out and a bunch of the earlier bugs (software and hardware build) were addressed though. with Sammy, i find it's good to wait for a few months after launch for them to get things right. also, now being able to get Samsung's Remote PC functionality is great.
gintariukeas said:
Hello everyone
I am searching for a new tablet to buy and am really intrested in note series (sPen!). I have few questions for galaxy note 2014 owners:
1. Is it comfortable for reading or is it too big for that? Thats my main concern- i need a tablet for my e- books, studying.
2. How much time it takes battery to drop to 0 (with +- energy saving settings)?
3. Do you find sPen useful or just a gimmick? Especially for note taking?
4. Is this tablet worth the money/ what other tabs you recommend?
I come from iPad mini. This tablet really hurt my eyes, so i think i need a tablet with greater resolution since i read a lot. And no, i dont want retina iPad, i prefer android. I am also thinking about note 8.0, it is a lot of cheaper option too, but i want a 9- 10 inch tablet, its resolution is lower.. ah help me >.<
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Biggest issue. It's a Samsung! Plastic piece of ****. Build quality from hell. Have to return mine for creaky body and the bezel start to come loose from the glas. 750€ tablet with quality worse than a 129€ tablet.
The screen is nice, very bright and res is nice for reading, s pen is good for drawing and if u like to take notes but the apps that support stylus is quite few and samsungs s note and action memo is quite crappy. Besides the screen and the stylus which is nice if u need it. But its mostly a gimmick, i just cant recommend this POS. Did i mention that it lags like hell on stock firmware. Had to root and run custom to get decent performance and it still runs worse than my s4 with cm. I regret every day that I wasted over 700€ on this crap. Check around and you will see i ain't the only one who is dissatisfied with it. Buy something else than Samsung. Dont lesrn that lesson the hard way
If pen is not your critical.
Standby and wait for new Tab S series it will come with AMOLED display !!! .
I had an iPad Mini1, it was cute but that's it. The screen is not great and the battery wasn't as good as people say it is.
I also had an iPad3 and the screen was nice but it was uncomfortable to hold and I think the aluminium casing is slippery without a case.
iOS just sucks even though there are really good quality apps.
I've had a ton of android 10" tablets from Xoom, Tosh Thrive, Asus Transformers TF101, TF201, TF300, TF700 and Padfone Infinity.
I still have the TF700 and the Padfone Inifnity. The TF700 runs like a POS, slow and stutters and freezes up. I have a feeling the 1gb RAM is crippling it. I don't understand it when the prime and Tf300 was no where as bad, but I like the form factor very much and use it like a laptop and for remote desktops access it is great.
The padfone infinity is pretty awesome and it runs very fast, quadrant score is about 3 times that of the TF700 and feels like it. If it had an active stylus and a keyboad dock, I'd be happy with that as my only device since it is also a phone. My only problem with it is no SD slot so I got the 64gb version. I'm keen on the Padfone Infinity 2 but haven't tried it yet.
I also have a Surface RT and it is great for MS Office and File Explorer with a desktop. As well as that, I have an Asus Vivotab smart ME400C which is atom based Windows8 tab and runs full windows desktop apps.
Before I got my Note10 (P605) I had a Note 8 5100 (wifi+3G) and it is a GREAT tablet. It is snappy and light and runs soooo good. The only thing is the screen is not even as good as an ipad mini but it ****s on every other tablet I have owned for usability. IT IS THAT GOOD! if Samsung made a Note Pro 8.4 like their tab pro 8.4, I'd be there in a snap.
This brings me to my Note 10.1 2014 (P605 with 4G). The screen is awesome, the size is awesome, the speed is great (not as snappy as Note 8 in a lot of ways believe it or not!). I'm still on 4.3 but then my Note 8 is on 4.2. The pen is better on the Note10 than the Note8 and if you only got the Note10 to run Sketchbook ONLY, it would be worth every cent on that sweet screen. I do a lot of reading on it and the screen is just awesome. I photo edit and preview on it and its great. I also use it to annotate PDFs and draw stupid things for fun.
I'm still grabbing the Note8 most of the time when I head out of the house, simply because I can jam it into my coat pocket and cargo pants pockets. but at home, I'm on the Note10 all the time.
I love the Note10 and if I had to live with just 1 tablet and my Note 3 phone, I would pick the Note10 without hesitation.
PS. With regards to the negative comments, don't try to find the perfect tablet, it doesn't exist! Everything has a compromise but this Note10 hits a VERY NICE sweetspot and I would recommend it for student use if running windows apps is not a neccessity. Even then, I would try and get away with that by remote desktop because the Note 10 does everything else soooo much better.
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manhattan212;53168349: ...OneNote crushes everything that does and does not exists in the multi-universe. Otherwise pay less and get something else.[/QUOTE said:
Papyrus pen UI beats One Note windows for actual Notetaking. However One Note has better management, so the solution is to use Papyrus to take notes and then move it to One Note for storage and management thru Android OneNote.
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warboat said:
I love the Note10 and if I had to live with just 1 tablet and my Note 3 phone, I would pick the Note10 without hesitation.
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I'm sure Samsung must be proud to have such staunch supporters. But the key point isn't just how great the machine is. The keypoints are this, this, and this. And for every one of us that actually posts -imagine the countless others that don't go online to post questions in forums. The countless others who just take the loss in stride, because they have little or no recourse.
In short, the Note 10.1 2014 has great promise, but buying Samsung is like playing Russian roulette. The hardware has great probability of failing, and Samsung has no problem screwing customers over. So I for one feel it's wrong to not warn people against the Note 10.1 2014. Because chances are, the tablet isn't going to fail you in those first 30 days, when you can take it back to the store you bought it and get yoru money back -no questions asked. It's going to fail you 32 days in. And then you're relying on Samsung's warranty -which isn't just going to let you walk into a local Samsung shop and shove your defective tablet into one of their [non-geniuses] mouths and let you walk out of the shop with a new replacement in hand. Other companies do that, Samsung just gives you the runaround, and cheats you out of your money.
warboat said:
PS. With regards to the negative comments, don't try to find the perfect tablet, it doesn't exist! Everything has a compromise but this Note10 hits a VERY NICE sweetspot and I would recommend it for student use if running windows apps is not a neccessity. Even then, I would try and get away with that by remote desktop because the Note 10 does everything else soooo much better.
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When it comes to buying the Note 10.1 (2014)...
Harry Callahan said:
I know what you're thinking. 'Did the SM-P605 fire six shots or only five'? Well to tell you the truth, in all this excitement, i kind of lost track myself. But being that this is a Samsung, the most powerful tablet in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well do ya, punk?
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I've heard a lot about the good and bad points about the note 10.1 (2014) here but there is only one thing that puts me off getting one: the constant talk is lag and sluggish performance. I currently have a nexus 10 and I am wondering how the real world performance on this compares to the note 10.1? If anyone has any experience of both I would be really interested to hear their thoughts. Thanks in advance!
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paddycr said:
I've heard a lot about the good and bad points about the note 10.1 (2014) here but there is only one thing that puts me off getting one: the constant talk is lag and sluggish performance. I currently have a nexus 10 and I am wondering how the real world performance on this compares to the note 10.1? If anyone has any experience of both I would be really interested to hear their thoughts. Thanks in advance!
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There's no or very little lag on 4.4. I use my N10.1-14 probably heavier than most here because I'm a productivity user. I was just thinking to myself today what an amazing device it is (after owning it since October). I was working on a complicated Word document. I like to get the meat of a document done in Hancom locally and then finish it via RDP on my Windows desktop PC to guarantee the formatting's correct. Here's what I had open at the same time - Hancom (viewer and editor), Jump Desktop keeping a connection alive to my home PC with Word running, and two instances of Samsung's My Files in multi view to drag-and-drop files I needed between my device, home FTP server and Dropbox. On top of that I was watching Amazon Instant Video in a Pop-up-play window using PlayOn, connected to a BT keyboard and mouse, and listening to the audio via an AptX BT pendent. Also, so I didn't need to pull my phone out for calls or messages, I was using SideSync to display it on my N10.1-14 minimized. I have a 3G device so all this was being done over AT&T's HSPA+ network because the coffee house I was in had too many people on Wi-Fi. And that was all with little or no lag. Try that on another 10.1" tablet.
But as amazing as all that is to me, if you're purely a consumption user, you won't appreciate all the N10.1-14's features, the resources they take up, and Samsung's added UI clutter to get them all to work together. For consumption, stick to your N10, get an iPad, or consider the Teg4 Asus TF701 which is down to $299 new and has the same screen resolution as both the N10 and N10.1-14. The people *****ing about the N10.1-14 probably shouldn't have bought it in the first place based on what they use a tablet for.
Happy shopping.
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But as amazing as all that is to me, if you're purely a consumption user, you won't appreciate all the N10.1-14's features, the resources they take up, and Samsung's added UI clutter to get them all to work together. For consumption, stick to your N10, get an iPad, or consider the Teg4 Asus TF701 which is down to $299 new and has the same screen resolution as both the N10 and N10.1-14. The people *****ing about the N10.1-14 probably shouldn't have bought it in the first place based on what they use a tablet for.
Happy shopping.
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Thanks for your reply. I have a note 3 and love s-note for taking notes at work. The problem is that the screen is too small to use it on a regular basis - I find myself frequently going back to pen and paper. So i'm thinking of ditching the note 3 and getting a 10.1. Good excuse for a new phone too
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if any one looking for a good new open samsung note 10.1 2014 i got one for you for $449 if you would like two take a look in two it
http://www.ebay.com/itm/111380065860?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
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I've heard a lot about the good and bad points about the note 10.1 (2014) here but there is only one thing that puts me off getting one: the constant talk is lag and sluggish performance. I currently have a nexus 10 and I am wondering how the real world performance on this compares to the note 10.1? If anyone has any experience of both I would be really interested to hear their thoughts. Thanks in advance!
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I have over a dozen Android devices and there is always some lag, somewhere in each of them.
As long as its not significant, you shouldn't get hung up about the lag.
The thing you want out of android is functionality and there isn't a better 10" weapon right now than the Note 10 2014.
In terms of raw potential, the Nexus 10 Mali 604 GPU will top out at 72gflops.
Note 10.1 2014 Exynos: 102gflops
Note 10.1 2014 Qualcomm SD800:130gflops
Ipad Air A7: 115gflops
Asus TF701 (Tegra4): 97gflops
You have 4 million pixels to push around. Gflops matter.
I'm not sure what your main use is, but if you are a student and you are in a major that requires a lot of math, BUY THIS TABLET. If you will not be using the stylus often, there may be better options. There is a noticeable amount of lag on the stock rom and stock firmware, which confused me because the specs seem great. After rooting the device and switching roms it is much smoother.
I literally bought this tablet to run LectureNotes for my math classes. I have had a big issue with lag specifically in that app (only that app - others had zero lag), but I finally got it down to probably <30ms response time in LectureNotes while writing. I had to find the OEM 4.4.2 firmware/rom and flash it prior to flashing a modded 4.4.2 rom. A bunch of tweaking was also necessary in the app's settings, but I actually found that the high resolution was my issue. I then lowered the resolution of my notebooks, turned fast rendering and page rendering OFF, used SetCPU to max out the CPU when the screen was on and LectureNotes was in the foreground. This significantly decreased my lag in LectureNotes. All of this only applies to that specific app. Nothing else had any lag once I was rooted and on a custom rom.
Would I recommend this tablet? It depends. If you are strictly going to use it out of the box, and keep it stock, my answer is no. I would get something with a lighter ROM out of the box. Possibly something AOSP. If you are a student and/or you plan on using the stylus often, it is worth every damn penny. My tablet replaced my math notebooks. Using LectureNotes to do math is SO much faster than pencil and paper, because of the custom tools that you are able to use. Constructing certain figures and graphs are so much quicker on the tablet than having to draw everything out.
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I have over a dozen Android devices and there is always some lag, somewhere in each of them.
As long as its not significant, you shouldn't get hung up about the lag.
The thing you want out of android is functionality and there isn't a better 10" weapon right now than the Note 10 2014.
In terms of raw potential, the Nexus 10 Mali 604 GPU will top out at 72gflops.
Note 10.1 2014 Exynos: 102gflops
Note 10.1 2014 Qualcomm SD800:130gflops
Ipad Air A7: 115gflops
Asus TF701 (Tegra4): 97gflops
You have 4 million pixels to push around. Gflops matter.
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Have you had a Nexus 10 and is it's overall performance comparable to the Note 10.1? I get a little paranoid about these benchmarks - I had a TF700T before my Nexus 10, which I recall benchmarked well. Even after unlocking, rooting and flashing custom firmware it was a completely unusable POS because of the lag.
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Would I recommend this tablet? It depends. If you are strictly going to use it out of the box, and keep it stock, my answer is no. I would get something with a lighter ROM out of the box. Possibly something AOSP. If you are a student and/or you plan on using the stylus often, it is worth every damn penny. My tablet replaced my math notebooks. Using LectureNotes to do math is SO much faster than pencil and paper, because of the custom tools that you are able to use. Constructing certain figures and graphs are so much quicker on the tablet than having to draw everything out.
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I agree, my Note 3 flies now I have ditched stock. However, the only thing that worries me about this is the knox 0x1 issue. Has anyone reported getting warranty service with this flag on their Note 10.1 ? It is not an issue with my Note 3 because T-mobile couldn't care less...
Check out this item I found on eBay: http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=321428263654&alt=web
Price is a big issue but you can get it factory refurbished for $299. For that price this device looks a lot better imo
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Even after unlocking, rooting and flashing custom firmware it was a completely unusable POS because of the lag.
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That wasn't the SoC or even s/w. Asus is notorious for putting slow-as-crap bargain basement NAND in their devices.
Coreyc1123 said:
Check out this item I found on eBay: http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=321428263654&alt=web
Price is a big issue but you can get it factory refurbished for $299. For that price this device looks a lot better imo
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I was about to tell OP for this link. haha.
I bought one for 299-39 bucks ebay cash so total came out to be 260 which is fantastic deal. Still waiting for it to be shipped.
I am original Note 10.1 owner so I can't comment on this 2014 ones but with my original 10.1 being my main notebook in college, I can't recommend enough. Everybody experience may varies depending on the usage and expectation. I took all of my notes using the tablet with the LectureNote app. Fantastic tool.
I expect nothing less from 2014 10.1 and can't wait to get it.

Tab Pro 8.4 vs Tab S 8.4

Is one of them better than the other?
I'm thinking about buying the pro version now, instead of waiting for the S version which comes out in about a month and it might be more expensive. Any suggestions?
The S is suppose to have the Super AMOLED screen instead of SuperLCD.
2.1 front cam instead of 2.0
3GB Ram instead of 2GB
Finger print sensor
But a different processor 1.9 instead of 2.3 if they are comparable that way.
Also a little slimmer and weighs less.
Alexpride said:
Is one of them better than the other?
I'm thinking about buying the pro version now, instead of waiting for the S version which comes out in about a month and it might be more expensive. Any suggestions?
The S is suppose to have the Super AMOLED screen instead of SuperLCD.
2.1 front cam instead of 2.0
3GB Ram instead of 2GB
Finger print sensor
But a different processor 1.9 instead of 2.3 if they are comparable that way.
Also a little slimmer and weighs less.
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I think a lot depends on are you a fan of Amoled or TFT screens. Probably Tab S line will be the premium line and probably more expensive. Traditionally Amoled screens are more expensive than TFT screens.
Of course another important consideration is the price differential. It maybe more value for money to get the TabPro over the Tab S.
I can't imagine Samsung screwing the early adopters of the TabPro by pricing the Tab S similar to TabPro at launch.
SoC wise the TabPro runs SnapDragon 800 2.3 GHz vs Exynos 1.9 GHz[Samsung stated cheaper to use in-house silicon] of the Tab S. SD800 had better gpu but essentially both are pretty similar power and battery performance wise
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So which tab would be better for reading textbooks? Which screen the SUPERLCD or the AMOLED?
If Samsung instead would have come up with a new 8.4 or 8.0 Note (S-Pen) tab it would have made more sense for a new release within a short period.
I don't like reading on white backgrounds. I try to use a black background if possible.
Having said that, SuperLCD and Amoled operate differently. LCDs have the entire backlight switched on even if the background is black. Therefore consumes more battery. Amoleds only turn on the pixel when it's not black. Therefore saving battery. But of cos if your browsing on a white background it's not going to save you battery.
As to which is better for reading textbooks, I find both technologies are just as good. Although Amoled has a wider colour gamut than LCD. So colours tend to look punchier.
I think your buying decision will likely be influenced more by the price than the tech. If the pricing differential is small than go for the Amoled. Thinner, lighter, better colours, potentially more power - saving display, more RAM.
I don't understand their marketing strategy. Launching so many TabPro/NotePro tablets not to mention their Tab4 line, and now TabS line. Maybe they just want to saturate the market.
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To be honest the LCD screen in Tab Pro 8.4 is already very good.
Remember all the reviews said, when TabPro8.4 came out: "best screen we've ever seen on a 7 to 8 inch tablet" !
Also, the quality of the screen pretty much demolished the LG G Pad 8.3's screen. I know, i was about to buy a G Pad but fortunately i waited and went for TabPRO instead. Difference between LG G Pad and TabPRO was quite big. I don't know if the diff between TabPRO and TabS will be anywhere near that big!
So it's certainly quite possible the Tab S will have a better screen... but since the TabPRO already has an "amazing" screen, it depends if you really need "better than amazing". and are willing to pay full msrp for it.
i think of it this way... if u have an M3 and it's working great, will you upgrade 3 months later and get an M5? :laugh:
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To be honest the LCD screen in Tab Pro 8.4 is already very good.
Remember all the reviews said, when TabPro8.4 came out: "best screen we've ever seen on a 7 to 8 inch tablet" !
Also, the quality of the screen pretty much demolished the LG G Pad 8.3's screen. I know, i was about to buy a G Pad but fortunately i waited and went for TabPRO instead. Difference between LG G Pad and TabPRO was quite big. I don't know if the diff between TabPRO and TabS will be anywhere near that big!
So it's certainly quite possible the Tab S will have a better screen... but since the TabPRO already has an "amazing" screen, it depends if you really need "better than amazing". and are willing to pay full msrp for it.
i think of it this way... if u have an M3 and it's working great, will you upgrade 3 months later and get an M5? :laugh:
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I agree with what you said. This LCD screen is already very good. I have a NotePro 12.2 and the screen is really good. Even better when squeezed into 8.4.
For me really depends on the price point of the TabS. I do prefer SD800 over Exynos but if the price is close I would probably get the TabS.
Ultimately you need to decide what parameters are more important to you and base your decision on that. I can only tell you my decision process but you make the final decision for yourself.
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Best Buy Sale
Best Buy has the 8.4 Pro on sale for $330, plus a free $50 gift card.
the_eclectic1 said:
I can't imagine Samsung screwing the early adopters of the TabPro by pricing the Tab S similar to TabPro at launch.
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It seems this is exactly what is happening. TabPro 8.4 went on sale in States for $ 399, and the new Tab S 8.4 is now also going on sale at the same $ 399. (TabPro was reduved to $ 369 within a month, so early adopters, like myself, are screwed a couple of times over in this case )
Anyone know if the Tab Pro S will be offered with LTE?
Yes will be offered with LTE.
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It seems this is exactly what is happening. TabPro 8.4 went on sale in States for $ 399, and the new Tab S 8.4 is now also going on sale at the same $ 399. (TabPro was reduved to $ 369 within a month, so early adopters, like myself, are screwed a couple of times over in this case )
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Sorry to hear that. Bad move Samsung. Do you think you will win brand loyalty by screwing your most passionate customers esp the early adopters? I can understand their strategy of trying to win more sales by tempting new customers with better tech and low prices. While you might tempt the early adopters to switch to their newer tablets. But releasing a newer better tablet in less than 6 months? It can backfire. You are going to piss off the early adopters who supported you.
Reminds me of the Moto Razr and Razr Max days.
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From what I have read about the Tab S, the screen is sadly pentile and while saturated color not very accurate, if mainly using for reading would look at it in person first to make sure you like how text renders on the screen.
One definite benefit it has over the Tab Pro though is the speakers are on different sides of the screen instead of both on the bottom.
OMG I bought 4 weeks ago tab pro 8.4
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From what I have read about the Tab S, the screen is sadly pentile and while saturated color not very accurate, if mainly using for reading would look at it in person first to make sure you like how text renders on the screen.
One definite benefit it has over the Tab Pro though is the speakers are on different sides of the screen instead of both on the bottom.
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I was afraid it might be pentile. Waiting to hear more from reviews. Though I had a nagging suspicion it was pentile, as Samsung said it was Super Amoled and not Super Amoled Plus [RGB sub pixel structure] which the Tab 7.7 had.
Speakers being on different sides would be good. Like the 10.5 & 12.2 Tabs.
Damn you Samsung. If you're going to do a superlative tablet, go all out and use Super Amoled Plus 2560x1600. It's more expensive tech. But you can charge more for it and it would justify the higher price for your target audience, especially photographers and people needing the larger color gamut and non-pentile display. And it wouldn't piss the TabPro buyers so much.
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OMG I bought 4 weeks ago tab pro 8.4
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It's still a good tablet. Just that you might feel cheated if you had known it was coming so soon after TabPro 8.4. Esp if the price differential is small.
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Yes will be offered with LTE.
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Sorry to hear that. Bad move Samsung. Do you think you will win brand loyalty by screwing your most passionate customers esp the early adopters? I can understand their strategy of trying to win more sales by tempting new customers with better tech and low prices. While you might tempt the early adopters to switch to their newer tablets. But releasing a newer better tablet in less than 6 months? It can backfire. You are going to piss off the early adopters who supported you.
Reminds me of the Moto Razr and Razr Max days.
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I'm in the same boat. I would have loved to have waited for the S instead of snagging the Pro last month. Oh well. I'm still happy with my purchase.
Looking at the specs for the US wifi model it also uses a exynos cpu which could mean fewer roms.
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Looking at the specs for the US wifi model it also uses a exynos cpu which could mean fewer roms.
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Typically the Wifi ones use Exynos while the LTE ones use S800.
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The Tab Pro 8.4 wifi uses the S800 only.
Really? Not in my country.
[Edited] My bad. Looks like your right.
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i will keep the tab pro 8.4 anyday over purchasing the tab s, the qualcomm soc imho is better and faster than sammy chip, plus the benefit of having more development for us in the future on the tab pro is almost a givin,,steve
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From what I have read about the Tab S, the screen is sadly pentile and while saturated color not very accurate, if mainly using for reading would look at it in person first to make sure you like how text renders on the screen.
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That would be unfortunate. I've had (still use, for other reasons) a pentile-screened Moto. Hate that aspect of it.
That said, I have several times knowingly bought expensive technology that was about to be replaced by a newer version simply because the several-month interval was worth it. Around ten years ago, knowing a $100 price break on what I was buying would happen in a month (and this was before refunds were feasible), and knowing that an improved version was three months away, I bought a $350 PDA. (That was a lot of money back then.) But having it was worth easily $10-$20 per DAY to me, so I viewed it as an annoyance but not a deal breaker.
Ask yourself these questions: would you notice the cost of two drinks at Starbucks a day? That's about $10/day. Yeah, we gripe at spending $2 on the Play Store for an app, but my typical martini or bourbon is $12/drink.
Would having the device now make you as much happier as those two coffees or one martini? (Or, put the other way, would you be discontented by unsatisfied desire without it?)
If so, get it now, because the opportunity cost is worth it.

Tab S or Nexus 9?????

Hello Guys,
I'm looking to get a tablet soon and i was wondering if you guys can give me a little input.
I love the screen on the tab S but i love the feel the stock android on the nexus.
Are there any roms that will allow the tab s to simulate stock android? TW is horrible and clunky.
Not yet. And nexus is much more powerful cause of it's hardware
No micro sd card on the Nexus is a deal breaker for me.
There are really only two reasons to by this tablet over the Nexus - Amoled and SD card, everything is arguable superior on the nexus being later hardware. If neither of these things are important to you there really no reason to buy this now. For SD card and Amoled were crucial.
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There are really only two reasons to by this tablet over the Nexus - Amoled and SD card, everything is arguable superior on the nexus being later hardware. If neither of these things are important to you there really no reason to buy this now. For SD card and Amoled were crucial.
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Agreed.
Nice read.
Compare N9 vs Tab S 10.5
http://www.androidheadlines.com/category/tablet/tablet-comparisons
I love my tab s! Micro sdcard slot was a must for me. The screen takes the tab s to the next level.
I also like mine. But in some point I will must try Nexus 9, only if samsung give us some lollipop experience in the future I will stay
I was debating this too but the 4:3 nexus screen made be buy a tab s 8.4 pretty good except for a little lag here and there great screen
No wait and buy nexus 9 it is fantastic buy the 32 one
It has very very bowerful hardware it gaves me 60000 in antutu
The rab s gaves me 39000
Nexusu has fantastec sound quality from speakers and headphone
Is is very damm fast no lag at all
Tab s lags with stock based roms
Get nexus 9
Tab S: Watching TV shows / Movies / Anime
Nexus 9: Playing games or reading (such as web browsing). Plus Pure Android
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Tab S: Watching TV shows / Movies / Anime
Nexus 9: Playing games or reading (such as web browsing). Plus Pure Android
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Rather than buying 2 tablets for specific purposes it would be nice if Samsung would just use a different CPU. Not asking them to admit an error in not choosing the Snapdragon, but it sounds like just that. 4:3 rules out the Nexus for me. Really need one of the other makers to buy the screen from Samsung and make a tablet that checks all the boxes. Unfortunately Verizon charges a full hundred dollars more for the LTE variant with Snapdragon CPU.
i will sell my tab s and buy nexus 9
I was in the same predicament last week. Upgrading my Nexus 7, only use the tablet for watching movies, youtube and browsing social media.
I decided to go with the tab s 10.5 32gb.
Mainly for the amoled screen, and expandable memory.
I'll root it, freeze bs Samsung apps and throw Nova prime on it and I should be good to go. Some xposed mods too..
I think that the Samsung products are better. Maybe Nexus will be more devs or updates but, sincerely, I can't do a paragon...different worlds. Samsung forever.
Many apps are not compatible with lollipop on the Nexus 9 at this time even though dev had 6 months to get ready.
Hey,
I do not own a tab s but I am seriously considering it after returning a Nexus 9. I was super excited for the nexus 9 but it was extremely disappointing. First off the screen is seriously lacking quality, really dull colors and you really roll the dice when it comes to light bleed. If you go over to the nexus 9 forum you can see there's a whole thread of people comparing light bleed. Some are absolutely terrible, the one I had was ok but you could definitely notice it and it drove me crazy.
On the up side android 5 is very nice but right now it drains battery like no ones business. I was getting around 4 hours screen time just using chrome and web browsing with the brightness about half way. The battery life at least right now is unacceptable. The speakers are a nice touch but I found they distorted very quickly once you get higher up in volume. There's also the heat issue, the nexus 9 gets very hot. From about the camera over to the middle of the device it can get mildly uncomfortable even just web browsing seemed to bring this thing up to 40 C or so.
Like I said I was really excited about the nexus 9, I thought it was the one for me. There are just too many flaws for a device that isn't really that affordable in the grand scheme of things. That said I haven't had my hands on any of the tab s line so any owners please let me know if any of these issues are also present in that line.
Tab s with cm11 FTW!
rowihel2012 said:
No wait and buy nexus 9 it is fantastic buy the 32 one
It has very very bowerful hardware it gaves me 60000 in antutu
The rab s gaves me 39000
Nexusu has fantastec sound quality from speakers and headphone
Is is very damm fast no lag at all
Tab s lags with stock based roms
Get nexus 9
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lol wtf is going on here?
Enviado do meu Galaxy Tab S
I was going to purchase the Nexus 9 but after reading all the problems I purchased the LTE 8.4 tab s and absolutely love the screen. It does have an odd stutter once in awhile. IMO the Nexus change to 4:3 screen was a step backwards.

Tab s2 9.7' or Tab s 10.5'

Hello everyone,
I decided on buying my very first tablet... After buying my first Samsung Galaxy phone, I have come to absolutely love Amoled displays.
So I have only 2 choices I guess?
So what do you guys think? I've done loads of research and I just can't decided because:
Tab s is Cheaper, better battery, bigger screen But slower SOC.
Tab S2 is faster and i like the portrait orientation with that 4:3 ratio (these are the only advantages imho since i genuinely don't care about the looks, the camera nor the thinness of it because the tablet is going to be in it's case all the time).
So I cant decide if I should go for the old and save a few bucks (euros actually ) or go for the new one that is like 20% faster.
I forgot to mention that I will mainly be using it for ebooks and reading, and maybe a few movies now and then.
Oh and lastly I will be installing cyanogenmod immediately since I never liked bloatware.
Soo... Do share your thoughts with me guys,
Thanks in advance.
lorismarcos said:
I forgot to mention that I will mainly be using it for ebooks and reading, and maybe a few movies now and then.
Oh and lastly I will be installing cyanogenmod immediately since I never liked bloatware.
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I recommend the Tab S 10.5 based on your statement.
Here's a video comparing both:
Really helpful video.
Thanks mate.
Is the performance of that exynos 5420 decent for viewing large PDF's?
Cause from my research many people tend to complain about the tab S' performance.
Or is that associated with the touchwiz
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I have been using the Tab S 10.5 for a while now, and it is terribly slow. The reasons for the slowness are very little RAM which cripples the OS (3GB) and general Android application awkwardness and slugginess (designed for phones not for every day use). Both Galaxy tabs have 3GB RAM so you're out of luck.
Using the tablet to do simple, every day tasks, there is a tremendous difference with the laptop. I know you said you only want to watch movies or read books, but still I think a small laptop running Windows or Apple iOS would beat the pants out of any tablet. The only difference is the price, tablets can be much cheaper than laptops. But I regret having bought the tablet because it cannot really do simple things without extreme awkwardness.
The only major plus is I am using it also as a phone (I have the T805) which is something no laptop can do (that I am aware of).
As you said I also have the tablet in a case/ book cover , complete with keyboard and mouse, so it is like a small laptop anyway.
If you have not bought it yet, try to see if there are 10"-11" laptops that could do everything you need and so much better.
Although I don't have the tab s, yet, I'll have to disagree with you friend.
3gb of RAM should be more than enough.
My galaxy s4 has 2 gb and I'm multitasking like crazy... Never ever felt like I need more RAM. But of course I have cm12.1 on it.
My concern with the tab s is the processor not the RAM.
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Wow, 3 GB of RAM is little for you... What simple tasks you want to do, that Galaxy tab s is too slow for you? Mine is really fast, enough to replace laptop. Maybe you are not familiar with Android and don't know how to maintain the device fast.
lorismarcos said:
Although I don't have the tab s, yet, I'll have to disagree with you friend.
3gb of RAM should be more than enough.
My galaxy s4 has 2 gb and I'm multitasking like crazy... Never ever felt like I need more RAM. But of course I have cm12.1 on it.
My concern with the tab s is the processor not the RAM.
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"multitasking like crazy..." That was funny!
lorismarcos said:
Hello everyone,
I decided on buying my very first tablet... After buying my first Samsung Galaxy phone, I have come to absolutely love Amoled displays.
So I have only 2 choices I guess?
So what do you guys think? I've done loads of research and I just can't decided because:
Tab s is Cheaper, better battery, bigger screen But slower SOC.
Tab S2 is faster and i like the portrait orientation with that 4:3 ratio (these are the only advantages imho since i genuinely don't care about the looks, the camera nor the thinness of it because the tablet is going to be in it's case all the time).
So I cant decide if I should go for the old and save a few bucks (euros actually ) or go for the new one that is like 20% faster.
I forgot to mention that I will mainly be using it for ebooks and reading, and maybe a few movies now and then.
Oh and lastly I will be installing cyanogenmod immediately since I never liked bloatware.
Soo... Do share your thoughts with me guys,
Thanks in advance.
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since you mentioned cyanogenmod.... go with the good old tab s 10.5... tab s 2 got nothing develop yet.... :silly:
You are either an 16:10 or 4:3 person, if you watch more video get the S1 10.5" 16:10 if you browse the internet mostly get the S2 9.7" 4:3 Version, if you don't care, I don't either.
John.
lorismarcos said:
Although I don't have the tab s, yet, I'll have to disagree with you friend.
3gb of RAM should be more than enough.
My galaxy s4 has 2 gb and I'm multitasking like crazy... Never ever felt like I need more RAM. But of course I have cm12.1 on it.
My concern with the tab s is the processor not the RAM.
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Go with Tab s 10.5:
Bigger display
Higher resolution 2560 x 1600
Led flash
Infrared
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Astania said:
Wow, 3 GB of RAM is little for you... What simple tasks you want to do, that Galaxy tab s is too slow for you? Mine is really fast, enough to replace laptop. Maybe you are not familiar with Android and don't know how to maintain the device fast.
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I totally agree the tabs 10.5 fast with stock and even faster when rooted. I own the SM-T807P by Sprint variant. I just wish for a couple of custom Roms .
Guys, thanks for all your help.
I went and got my self a nice bronze t805...
I managed to last about 30 mins with bloatwiz.. So now I'm on PAC man Rom...Who cares about Knox and warranties and what not...
I really recommend this Rom. It completely transformed my tab, and now it's much faster.
Cheers lads

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