[Q] Disable smartcover behavior - Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl

I have a book cover my my Note 10 2014, and I find the smartcover behavior not so "smart". It is, in fact, extremely stupid and turns the screen on and off at completely random times. I don't have the same problem when it is off the cover. Props for Samsung for figuring out how to make it sense that it is in the cover (it is not just a light sensor) but the "smart" part of the feature is rather frustrating, and at times infuriating.
Thanks!

Perhaps try exchanging covers? Mine works perfectly and is the best accessory I could have bought for it (even paid less than MSRP).

Hah. I paid $10 for mine, from China. Maybe that's why it doesn't work so well. Still, there really ought to be a way to disable way to disable any sort of "automatic" feature. For example, it is very easy to disable Smart Stay, Smart Scroll, Smart Pause, automatically connect to wifi, S Beam, NFC, and so on and so forth. All (or most?) of which are on from factory...

Zaruski said:
I have a book cover my my Note 10 2014, and I find the smartcover behavior not so "smart". It is, in fact, extremely stupid and turns the screen on and off at completely random times. I don't have the same problem when it is off the cover. Props for Samsung for figuring out how to make it sense that it is in the cover (it is not just a light sensor) but the "smart" part of the feature is rather frustrating, and at times infuriating.
Thanks!
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Are you using an original Samsung book cover? Some third-party book covers don't have proper magnetic shielding at the front so when you flip it over it affects the screen on-off function of the tablet.

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[Q] Smart Cover Problem

I owned a smart cover for my galaxy note 8.0, it can work properly like sleep and wake.
But here's the problem come,
usually the cover is cover the front of the tablet, but when we use it, we will flip the cover to the back of tablet.
while the cover touched the back side of the tablet, it will also put it as sleep.
so, how to disable smart cover auto sleep?
i had tried the "Lock instantly with power key", but it required at least security of "pattern"
Any ideas?
Need help! THANK YOU!:good:
I guess something is wrong either with your cover or device - putting the cover on the back should never put the device to sleep.
I don't recall anybody reporting similar problems here, also the small sample we have at home (2 notes + 2 covers) behaves correctly.
The best thing (although it's probably easier said than done) would be to establish which one is malfunctioning and have it replaced if possible.
otoh I would also be interested in a way to disable the cover on/off function - mine is so sensitive, that even the slight move of the front part wakes the device, causing increased battery drain and making betterbatterystats readings useless.
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I guess something is wrong either with your cover or device - putting the cover on the back should never put the device to sleep.
I don't recall anybody reporting similar problems here, also the small sample we have at home (2 notes + 2 covers) behaves correctly.
The best thing (although it's probably easier said than done) would be to establish which one is malfunctioning and have it replaced if possible.
otoh I would also be interested in a way to disable the cover on/off function - mine is so sensitive, that even the slight move of the front part wakes the device, causing increased battery drain and making betterbatterystats readings useless.
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Here's a YouTube video that shows you how to do that:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhB5kJGQKsI
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Here's a YouTube video that shows you how to do that:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhB5kJGQKsI
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thanks, but that's not it, my problem is sensitivity to magnets in the cover, not the home button
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Yes I have the same problem... I bought some dodgy case off eBay. The magnets also interfee with the spen
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I have seen that happen a lot with ipad cases. Its due to a poorly designed case.
flashlim said:
I owned a smart cover for my galaxy note 8.0, it can work properly like sleep and wake.
But here's the problem come,
usually the cover is cover the front of the tablet, but when we use it, we will flip the cover to the back of tablet.
while the cover touched the back side of the tablet, it will also put it as sleep.
so, how to disable smart cover auto sleep?
i had tried the "Lock instantly with power key", but it required at least security of "pattern"
Any ideas?
Need help! THANK YOU!:good:
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thanks, but that's not it, my problem is sensitivity to magnets in the cover, not the home button
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It happens all the time to me. Put it nicely in the back. Not a single bit cover the front. Shake the device a little bit. The cover hits the back of the device, make some noise and screen turns off. Magic. As if the device can sense magnet even by its back. But when it sits really tightly that no space bw it and the case, problem solved by put on some sticky tape in the back.
Smart cover not smart at all T^T~ but original case without having that problem right?
Smart cover problem
Still looking for a way to disable the software that causes auto sleep/wake.
The problem with some covers is that they are not authentic from the manufacturers. The original Samsung case for Note 8/N5100 has the correct magnetic power in the case flap. The other covers have a magnet that is too strong so when the flap is in the back the magnet still effects.
I surgically cut the magnet out of the cheep cover and closed it back up. Disabled auto wake with the modification. I am guessing the same could be done with the original authentic Samsung case but it is hard to cut the little magnet out because its built in seamlessly so you cant see the exact location of the magnet.
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Smart cover not smart at all T^T~ but original case without having that problem right?
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Original Samsung book cover should not have that problem. i have been using the book cover for almost five months and not facing said issue.

S-Pen loose in silo - "S-pen detached" even though it isnt.

For me it depends on how i insert the pen back into the silo.
Button facing down = no problem
Button facing up = S-pen is looser, and lightly tapping the exposed part of the pen when inserted causes detachment recognition.
the tablet shows the "S-pen detached" even with the slightest outward movement of the S-pen,
which is only a problem when i insert the pen with the button facing down
Anyone one else having the same issue? (Should i exchange mines...?)
Is the S-pen suppose to inserted in a certain orientation only?
I dont have any of that problems
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I have this problem. Very annoying. It shouldn't be loose
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I dont have any of that problems
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ahhh, guess i'll go exchange mine then, thanks for posting and letting me know !
I have the same problem and for me it's no difference if the butten is facing up or down :/
Every time I press or hold the tablet next to the camera the pen is not recognized anymore. Very annoying if using it horizontally or just carrying it
SAME ISSUE HERE, but i have a solution !
It is the problem with to short pencil drawpoint, if i remove it and place it without fully pressing/locking inside the pen, the pen dedection will no fail !!!, i dont know yet how to extend it ??? (i'm sure a 0,5 mm or even 0,01 mm - will do)
if anyone have any idea please help ? can i place a bit of paper inside pen or it will **** the whole thing up ?
@Asmodat
that doesn't help for me. as soon as i bend the note a tiny little bit i get the s pen removed message. even if the lead is very loose
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@Asmodat
that doesn't help for me. as soon as i bend the note a tiny little bit i get the s pen removed message. even if the lead is very loose
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I know why it is not working for you (I forgotten to repost): That's because in my case extending the pen also stabilised it - thow it stopped going crazy.
Then i also noticed, that bending ... rather pressing the tablet in specific places fired the detatched message.
ANY WAY FOLLOWING SOLUTION IS 100% WORKING:
- The issue is to much loose in pen holder, so if the pen is not stabilized, even slightly move of pen or bend of tablet can detatch or reattach it.
TO FIX IT: Take the 2cm / 1inch piece of narrow transparent tape, then stick it below the silver head of pen.
I has to help, however it must be peace of tape of certain length not to long (you will not fit the pen in the holder), not to short.(it will not stabilise it).
Now I can do whatever I wont wyth my tablet, bent, press, etc - for me problem is solved, although i beleave some software code could easly fix it too, or disable the stupid feature.
Same problem.. The solution for me was to go to the service centre to get a new pen.
I'm having the same problem here. For me, it seems like this problem happened over time. I had this device for a month, and it's only the past week that I've had this problem. The slot for the pen seems to have loosened, and the pen slides out ever so slightly (still secure), but enough to be detected. It's very annoying, as I have a case with the sleep cover function, and the "pen detached" notification turns the screen on regardless of it being turned off from the cover. Battery drain while in bag FTL.
I'm wondering if there's a way to disable the feature altogether. I'm rooted, so I don't mind a rooted solution. I'd rather this than having to carry the pen separately, as the hole in the tablet will still be useful this way.
Had the tablet for 2 days and everything is perfect. There is 1 problem though, the S-Pen isn't loose, but when it's moved outwards like <1mm then the tablet will turn on because it thinks the S-Pen is detached. I compared this to my defective screen tablet that I have not yet returned and that one does not activate when moved even a millimeter outwards. I will be returning both these tablets because it will most likely get worse over time and get looser in the slot. I'm really disappointed at the moment and hoping the next replacement will be my last. If not I may just have to go with the iPad Air and get one of the expensive styluses for more precise input.
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Had the tablet for 2 days and everything is perfect. There is 1 problem though, the S-Pen isn't loose, but when it's moved outwards like <1mm then the tablet will turn on because it thinks the S-Pen is detached. I compared this to my defective screen tablet that I have not yet returned and that one does not activate when moved even a millimeter outwards. I will be returning both these tablets because it will most likely get worse over time and get looser in the slot. I'm really disappointed at the moment and hoping the next replacement will be my last. If not I may just have to go with the iPad Air and get one of the expensive styluses for more precise input.
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Even those expensive iPad styli aren't even close to the s pen experience.
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Even those expensive iPad styli aren't even close to the s pen experience.
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I agree, and I probably will not end up getting an iPad. I'm just kind of angry at Samsung at the moment and just saying things that'll make me feel better. Meanwhile, let's see how many returns it takes for me to get a tablet with no big problems. :silly:
I had the same issue. So I went to service station. they proposed to change s pen and the whole s pen dock which is attached to the screen Pannel. Now will be getting the replacements in 3 days. screen Pannel. According to them the s pen dock is attached to the screen Pannel. Now will be getting the replacements in 3 days. Hoping for the best. my S pen is very loose. It wasant so it was just loose on one side but after they opened my Note it became too loose. So its better to get a replacement.
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Had the tablet for 2 days and everything is perfect. There is 1 problem though, the S-Pen isn't loose, but when it's moved outwards like <1mm then the tablet will turn on because it thinks the S-Pen is detached. I compared this to my defective screen tablet that I have not yet returned and that one does not activate when moved even a millimeter outwards. I will be returning both these tablets because it will most likely get worse over time and get looser in the slot. I'm really disappointed at the moment and hoping the next replacement will be my last. If not I may just have to go with the iPad Air and get one of the expensive styluses for more precise input.
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Exactly the same thing with my P605. Went to Samsung service on Friday, January 10, and in less than one hour the problem was fixed, the s-pen's detection distance becoming ~2 mm. The s-pen position in silo doesn't matter (if it is introduced with the button toward the screen or to the back camera). I've tested also the s-pen with the sensitive tip removed, it keeps the same distance of 2 mm with or without tip. I've asked the lady from the desk for the technician that fixed my tablet to talk with him just 1 min to ask him what he did, she said that is forbidden. Than I asked her to tell me how the tablet was fixed, she said that it was opened and the sensor was repositioned in the right place. I looked carefully with a magnifier if there are traces on the case, it looks like the case wasn't touched. By the way, they didn't specify anything on my guarantee certificate, and they didn't release to me any written paper concerning this problem and how they fixed it. My feeling is that the s-pen sensor's position was recalibrated digitally, using a hidden menu. Testing my s-pen in the demo P605 tablet from the showroom (inside the same Samsung service building), the tolerance was ~1.5 mm. Hopefully this information will be useful to anybody experiencing this annoying thing.
nonukez said:
I'm having the same problem here. For me, it seems like this problem happened over time. I had this device for a month, and it's only the past week that I've had this problem. The slot for the pen seems to have loosened, and the pen slides out ever so slightly (still secure), but enough to be detected. It's very annoying, as I have a case with the sleep cover function, and the "pen detached" notification turns the screen on regardless of it being turned off from the cover. Battery drain while in bag FTL.
I'm wondering if there's a way to disable the feature altogether. I'm rooted, so I don't mind a rooted solution. I'd rather this than having to carry the pen separately, as the hole in the tablet will still be useful this way.
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I would love to see this as well. Maybe there's something like turning off home button wake in /system/usr/keylayout/gpio-keys.kl ? Like OP, the issue is improved greatly when the S-Pen button is facing toward the back of the device.
BTW, where the hell is the ROM development on this device. I haven't seen a ghost town like this on a Samsung device since the Behold II.
warrantary worked
now i had to sent my device to the support for some reasons as well and they managed to fix the problem. they didn't replace the s pen and it still feels quite loose in the silo but there are no detached messages anymore!
they had to open the back because they changed the battery, so i can't say if they fixed the sensor or if it was a software fix
I have fixed it by myself (just because I had no warranty for some reasons)
It is hardware problem and can not be fixed by firmware, so, if you want, go to service.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2619474

[Q] Cover flipped backwards turns off screen!

I was experiencing random screen shutoffs after fitting my galaxy note 10.1 (2014) for a new case.
It took a while before I finally realized that the random shut offs were being triggered by the case, more specifically, when the edge of my case came in line with the edge of the tablet, which is an awesome feature when you have the cover covering the front of the unit.
But the problem is it manages to shut off screen regardless of which side of the unit the cover is on, as long as the edge of the cover is aligned with the units edge. This can be quite frustrating when trying to read while holding the tablet in certain orientations.
Questions: I was wondering if anyone else has experienced similar issues with their cases/covers (a little research seems to indicate this is not an isolated issue and many, if not all, cases/covers suffer from this issue).
1) If you have not, which cases/covers do you use? Do these cases resolve the issue by never aligning the cover to the same position when flipped backwards as when flipped forwards (i.e. skewed slightly short of the edge when in backwards position)?
2) If you have experienced this issue, how have you addressed it? Can you disable the magnetic sensor?
3) Would weakening the magnet in the case perhaps ensure that it was only sensed in the forward position?
SKida00 said:
I was experiencing random screen sback andk ffs after fitting my galaxy note 10.1 (2014) for a new case.
It took a while before I finally realized that the random shut offs were being triggered by the case, more specifically, when the edge of my case came in line with the edge of the tablet, which is an awesome feature when you have the cover covering the front of the unit.
But the problem is it manages to shut off screen regardless of which side of the unit the cover is on, as long as the edge of the cover is aligned with the units edge. This can be quite frustrating when trying to read while holding the tablet in certain orientations.
et in the case perhaps ensure that it was only sensed in the forward position?
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yes i have the same problem. pick up A generic folio type case for my P600. Case looks and feels great. Auto wake works brilliantly when I open the cover, but there is the problem of The screen turning off when I flip the cover over to the back and the magnetic edges meet. Dunno how to fix this yet. Tried the magnetoff xposed module but that doesn't seem to work.
I got the Moko slim case and the same thing happens, what I did to circumvent the problem was to put my screen cleaning cloth between the case and the tablet. This prevents the magnet from locking the screen when completely folded backwards, the only thing is that this method will block the camera with the cloth. For me this is not a problem I don't see myself using the camera on my tablet when I can use my SGS3's camera, and this way I never forget my screen cleaning cloth .
I've read about this on other devices on various covers as well. they think it mah be due to the magnet not being properly shielded. dunno any fixes other than get another case.
I hade a cover for my old Ipad and it all so turn off the Ipad when I flipped over the cover.
It did turn out the problem was with the magnet and after getting a new one, the problem was solved.
My poetic slimline work perfectly no issues at all. Love the look and feel, I do want a carry slevee tho for more protection if I wanna bring it out of the house. Or even just to store in the house. But overall love this case.
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Get a piece of sheet metal (strip out a cheapie magnetic whiteboard , a few dollars at a variety store) cut to just less than the back of the tablet screen.
Cover it with a thin plastic film (to safeguard from cutting yourself)
It will adhere to the back of the screen magnetically and flatten the magnet's field
Now you can use the device with the keyboard tucked away behind the screen. (you may have to leave a small air gap say 5mm to 10 mm)
This does not affect the normal screen-keyboard functions when used conventionally
Same problem with Galaxy Tab A (Nougat)
There is an option in the tab to turn it off, but regardless what you choose, the tablet still responds to the magnet. Very annoying when you lay down your tablet flat. For now i just put something between the cover and the back of the tablet, like a handkerchief. This works for me, but ofcourse it's not a solution just a workaround. I'm still trying to find a solution.
Did you find any way to turn off the magnetic lock and unlock function? When I backfold my cover (aftermarket), it automatically locks my tab. Which is very irritating. I have Samsung galaxy tab S5e
There wasn't a good search result on a way to disable it via software or hardware mod so I thought I would post the solution I just did on my daughter's new tablet folio.
She has an old S3 Tab so the options are quite limited so figured modification was the only way. I ended up removing 3 magnets until I figured out which one actually did the on/off Hall effect. The smart thing to do would have been to use a magnet to find where on the tablet the Hall effect sensor was first, then remove just that magnet. The other magnets are for holding the clasp in place when the folio is open or closed.
I just cut an X over the magnet location, removed it, then filled it back in with hot glue. On her tablet, the Hall sensor was on the top left (fat arrow). It's annoying to have to do this but there's no other way. I tried the metal plate trick but that looked pretty bad and didn't always work.
Hope that helps someone

App for auto turn on / off screen

I have a cover for my tablet - can u recommend an app to auto turn on / off screen when I open / close the cover, because HOME button is quickly wearing out! Thanks.
I seem to remember that there were several complaints about their tablets shutting off when closing a third party cover. It turned out that there were magnets in the cover that affected the on/off switch. Maybe you could do a search to find out what cover they used and buy that cover. I may have seen that post somewhere on another forum also. Try a google search also as it may turn up the post you need.
armanys said:
I have a cover for my tablet - can u recommend an app to auto turn on / off screen when I open / close the cover, because HOME button is quickly wearing out! Thanks.
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The tablet has built in functionality for this.
most folio cases have magnets in them that activate the screen when you open them.
That being said the magnet can temporarily interfere with the Waccom layer of the screen used to get Spen input. (the pen will stop reading accurately/at all in the areas affected by the magnet.)
there were a lot of reports of the magnets permanently affecting the screen but the official word is that if the magnet is removed from close proximity to the screen the issues will eventually go away. (This was a big deal a while back because even Samsungs own folio case has magnets)
note that not everyone reported the issues so I'm pretty sure it has to do with how strong the magnet in the case is.
if you use your pen a lot I would stay away from those cases.
on the other hand if you don't use the pen then it wont affect you.
There are apps to let you double tap the screen to wake it (even for android versions before it was supported) which would save the physical buttons some wear but I suspect you would take a hit on battery life with that option.
The answer to just about everything: Tasker.
There's a how-to for this particular setting here. Battery drain is pretty low, about 2% every 12 hours or so.
Only flip covers with a magnet can use the system's inbuild auto-on/off functionality. Everything else needs to use the proximity sensor.
There are three types of flip covers, two of which use a magnet.
One is a strong, single magnet. This is the cheap option and causes problems with the Wacom sensors, which are also magnetic. You'll find this in pretty much 90% of all auto-on/off covers, especially the cheaper ones. The first Samsung covers also used this method, until they figured out it was a terrible idea.
The second is a ring patterns of thin magnetic strip woven through the entire back of the cover. This is used by most expensive brands (Like Samsonite), and doesn't interfere with the Wacom sensor.
The third are the most common one: Covers without a magnet. All these do is protect your screen.
ShadowLea said:
The answer to just about everything: Tasker.
There's a how-to for this particular setting here. Battery drain is pretty low, about 2% every 12 hours or so.
Only flip covers with a magnet can use the system's inbuild auto-on/off functionality. Everything else needs to use the proximity sensor.
There are three types of flip covers, two of which use a magnet.
One is a strong, single magnet. This is the cheap option and causes problems with the Wacom sensors, which are also magnetic. You'll find this in pretty much 90% of all auto-on/off covers, especially the cheaper ones. The first Samsung covers also used this method, until they figured out it was a terrible idea.
The second is a ring patterns of thin magnetic strip woven through the entire back of the cover. This is used by most expensive brands (Like Samsonite), and doesn't interfere with the Wacom sensor.
The third are the most common one: Covers without a magnet. All these do is protect your screen.
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Samsung Keyboard cover has no wake up /turn off function?

I have just received my preordered Tab S4 with keyboard cover, but when I close the keyboard cover it does not turn off the screen. Also when I manually turn off the screen, close the keyboard cover and then open it, it does not turn on the tablet. Is there any setting for this in Settings? Or is this feature not available anymore?
Thx.
Keyboard cover does not have magnetic attachment that enables the auto-unlock... At least, that is already a thing on Tab S3 so it is not a big surprise to me if they ommited the feature on S4 as well.
thank you, this means the keyboard cover is useless for me. I tried with magnet and it does have magnetic response on the keyboard cover edge and also on the tablet edge, so I don't understand why it's not shutting down the tablet screen.
Curious if the standard cover has that type of support then.
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Curious if the standard cover has that type of support then.
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I would suspect that if the keyboard cover can't do it the regular one won't do it either. As long as you don't have the screen time out value too high on the tablet, I don't see what the problem is. Mine is set to 1 minute and that works just fine for me.
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I would suspect that if the keyboard cover can't do it the regular one won't do it either. As long as you don't have the screen time out value too high on the tablet, I don't see what the problem is. Mine is set to 1 minute and that works just fine for me.
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the problem is that I had previous tablet S3 with regular book cover and was used to grabbing my tablet and by opening the cover the screen woke up automatically. Now it stays dark and I have to either press the power button or double tap on the screen. That's not acceptable. And yes, I do understand that "screen on" function can be set let's say for 1 minute, but that's not the point. This is really deal breaker for me. I will go to Best Buy tomorrow and try the regular book cover.
I have also called the Samsung support today, boy, they are clueless. Their customer support with heavy Chinese accent didn't even know that this tablet is out for public, so I hanged up and called again, this second guy told that my table is probably not sitting properly in the keyboard cover and I need to go to nearest Samsung center and they will adjust the position I don't believe what I hear......
The keyboard cover does't wake it upon opening, but when you connect it to the keyboard it starts. When not using the keyboard you can double tap the screen to turn on (Like LG phones), works well, takes about one second.
carlitos66 said:
I have just received my preordered Tab S4 with keyboard cover, but when I close the keyboard cover it does not turn off the screen. Also when I manually turn off the screen, close the keyboard cover and then open it, it does not turn on the tablet. Is there any setting for this in Settings? Or is this feature not available anymore?
Thx.
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I will certainty return my keyboard cover. I need a good slim profile case that wakes up my tablet and has an S Pen holster.
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I will certainty return my keyboard cover. I need a good slim profile case that wakes up my tablet and has an S Pen holster.
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I have returned the keyboard cover and bought regular slim profile book cover, which turns the Tab on and off with no problem. I wonder why Samsung's keyboard cover doesn't have this function.
Keyboard cover magnet
carlitos66 said:
I have just received my preordered Tab S4 with keyboard cover, but when I close the keyboard cover it does not turn off the screen. Also when I manually turn off the screen, close the keyboard cover and then open it, it does not turn on the tablet. Is there any setting for this in Settings? Or is this feature not available anymore?
Thx.
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It appears that Samsung put the magnet in the wrong place in the keyboard cover. If you do not mount the tablet in the cover so that you can move the tablet up and down in the case - against the keyboard - you will find that with the tablet slid about an inch up from center that the magnet kicks in and the screen turns off.
I have a plain book cover, from Amazon that I paid $9.90 for that works PERFECTLY! For the price I paid for the keyboard cover, it just HAS to be RETURNED! Hopefully, Samsung will get their manufacturing screw-up resolved.
Thanks Jeffrey, that's interesting find with the magnet position. That's probably why Samsung support over the phone told me to try to move the TAB in the cover up and down. Anyway, I have returned the keyboard cover already and also bought just plain book cover that works very well and has the "ON" and "OFF" function.
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It appears that Samsung put the magnet in the wrong place in the keyboard cover. If you do not mount the tablet in the cover so that you can move the tablet up and down in the case - against the keyboard - you will find that with the tablet slid about an inch up from center that the magnet kicks in and the screen turns off.
I have a plain book cover, from Amazon that I paid $9.90 for that works PERFECTLY! For the price I paid for the keyboard cover, it just HAS to be RETURNED! Hopefully, Samsung will get their manufacturing screw-up resolved.
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Curious if the standard cover has that type of support then.
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The normal book case works fine. It's just the keyboard case that doesn't work with the tablet's cover detection.
It was the same story on the Tab S3. This product is broken by design. Still, at least they didn't forget to leave a hole for the camera this time. The manual of the keyboard cover for the Tab S3 pictured a gap for the device's camera, but the accessory itself didn't have one. If you wanted to take a photo, you had to remove it from its protective case, which kind of defeats the purpose of a protective case.
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The normal book case works fine. It's just the keyboard case that doesn't work with the tablet's cover detection.
It was the same story on the Tab S3. This product is broken by design. Still, at least they didn't forget to leave a hole for the camera this time. The manual of the keyboard cover for the Tab S3 pictured a gap for the device's camera, but the accessory itself didn't have one. If you wanted to take a photo, you had to remove it from its protective case, which kind of defeats the purpose of a protective case.
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It seems like the keyboard case for both the S3 and S4 were fairly rushed, honestly.
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It appears that Samsung put the magnet in the wrong place in the keyboard cover. If you do not mount the tablet in the cover so that you can move the tablet up and down in the case - against the keyboard - you will find that with the tablet slid about an inch up from center that the magnet kicks in and the screen turns off.
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I am pretty sure this is not the case. True, the keyboard cover has magnets. If you move the tablet around, those magnets may trigger wake up function as you observed, but that's not their intended purpose. They are there to hold the keyboard cover closed when the tablet is inserted. And they align perfectly with another pair of magnets in the tablet (you can just slide something like fork along the edge of the tablet/case to see whey there are). If you move the table as you suggested so they work as wake up magnets, then the cover will not stay closed.
I believe the official book cover has another magnet that triggers wake up function. The keyboard cover does not do have wake up by design, maybe because they expect you to mostly use it in keyboard mode and as was said before, when you attach the keyboard, that will trigger wake up. I agree that it's kind of a silly decision. I would like to have wake up at least as an option. But it's not faulty manufacturing.
carlitos66 said:
I have just received my preordered Tab S4 with keyboard cover, but when I close the keyboard cover it does not turn off the screen. Also when I manually turn off the screen, close the keyboard cover and then open it, it does not turn on the tablet. Is there any setting for this in Settings? Or is this feature not available anymore?
Thx.
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It unfortunately is not a feature. the only way the keyboard shuts off the screen is if you were using the keyboard and then disconnect the keyboard from the tablet
I tried putting a small neodymium magnet on the outside of the case and it seems to work. Meaning, all you need is a magnet in the right position. That position seems to be right above where the bottom right edge of the tablet would sit when you mount it to use the keyboard. If only i could x-ray this thing to see if there is any sensitive components behind the plastic in that area, I would drill it and embed my magnet there. Its plenty thick enough to flush mount the magnet there...
I think that's not the way the Keyboard Cover works.
The Keyboard Cover is only for people who always use it.
I own one, actually 2 as I also bought for my wife, and to automatically TURN ON your Tab is by connecting it to the keyboard.
And to automatically TURN OFF your Tab is by disconnecting it from the Keyboard.
That's my 2 cents...I hope it helps
I've had the Tab S4 since before the Android 9 update and had both the Samsung Keyboard case and the regular book case and both would wake and put the tablet to sleep when opening and closing it BEFORE the Android 9 update. After it only seems the book case will do the wake/sleep functions but not the keyboard case. I think it's just software and it's really frustrating because that update has been out for months and nothing's changed I still have to manually put the tablet to sleep after closing it which defeats the purpose of the magnets built into both devices (keyboard case and tablet).

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