Knock on and keeping G3 in a pocket - G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I love Knock on feature but after 4 days of active phone use I find it rather annoying!
I usually carry a phone either in a back pocket of my jeans or in a shirt's pocket.
So every time there is a little pressure on the screen it turns it self on and weird/random things start to happen to home screen.
I don't use password or swipe protection, so when I wake up the phone it immediately goes to a home screen.
The knock on sensor seems a bit underdeveloped. It needs to be less sensitive to non-finger pressure.
Basically after 4 days I gave up and disabled it.

jodvova said:
I love Knock on feature but after 4 days of active phone use I find it rather annoying!
I usually carry a phone either in a back pocket of my jeans or in a shirt's pocket.
So every time there is a little pressure on the screen it turns it self on and weird/random things start to happen to home screen.
I don't use password or swipe protection, so when I wake up the phone it immediately goes to a home screen.
The knock on sensor seems a bit underdeveloped. It needs to be less sensitive to non-finger pressure.
Basically after 4 days I gave up and disabled it.
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I have the same problem, I disable Knock on unwillingly...

The quickcircle case prevents this issue (and looks pretty snazzy, too).

I suffer from this prolem too. The weird thing is, the first 3 Days with the phone, this problem was no problem...I don't know why, but since yesterday, it appears frequently...Maybe I wear other trousers? I don't know. The sensor on the front should prevent the phone from waking up while in the pocket, you can test iot working by cover the front sensors and then "knock on"...it won't work. That is exactly what should happen inside the pocket, but however, it does not work properly for me!

Just curious. How did you know the phone was on because of the knock on and not because the power button was accidentally depressed?

Seifer1975 said:
Just curious. How did you know the phone was on because of the knock on and not because the power button was accidentally depressed?
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Because I turn off knock on and now it's fine

Hmm, I carry my phone in my jeans pocket all the time, and this is not a problem to me. Knock on never seems to trigger when I don't want to.

I have had no false starts from using knock on at all, I even tested with lots of different materials to see if it would work.
If it is causing you such problems why don't you use a knock code?

Protagoras said:
Hmm, I carry my phone in my jeans pocket all the time, and this is not a problem to me. Knock on never seems to trigger when I don't want to.
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Lennyuk said:
I have had no false starts from using knock on at all, I even tested with lots of different materials to see if it would work.
If it is causing you such problems why don't you use a knock code?
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Just like these two guys, I have no issues with knock-on - if anything when I take it out of my pocket I have to triple tap sometimes to get it working.

radicalisto said:
Just like these two guys, I have no issues with knock-on - if anything when I take it out of my pocket I have to triple tap sometimes to get it working.
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Same here with the triple tap

Put the phone in the pocket with the screen facing outward as a temporary solution until LG fix this issue..

atsfrnd said:
Put the phone in the pocket with the screen facing outward as a temporary solution until LG fix this issue..
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With the huge risk that you lean on something and crack the screen? No thanks (not that I am having this issue anyway )

How do you turn it of?
kirikou008 said:
Because I turn off knock on and now it's fine
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Could anyone tell me how to turn it of please - I have tried a hundred things ...

Lennyuk said:
With the huge risk that you lean on something and crack the screen? No thanks (not that I am having this issue anyway )
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It is a very risky workaround and i'm aware of that
but the thing is, even with any type of security the screen will turn on once it gets inside the pocket and it wouldnt turn off..
so theres definitely something wrong with the proximity sensor..
anyway i solved my problem by using the QC case.. and apart from this issue it's a great case overall

this happens to me too, but only with loose pockets. when i'm wearing my office attire, theres no issue. But when i'm in shorts during the weekend, it turns on by itself and it gets quite annoying. sometimes it'll open apps and start typing gibberish.

mlauesen said:
Could anyone tell me how to turn it of please - I have tried a hundred things ...
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Dial 3845*#855# then scroll down and you will see a menu to disable it.
Substitute 855 with your model number if you have a different one.

jodvova said:
Dial 3845*#855# then scroll down and you will see a menu to disable it.
Substitute 855 with your model number if you have a different one.
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It comes back saying wrong MMI
My model name is LG-D855

Dial 3845#*855# not 3845*#855#

zi0m3k said:
Dial 3845#*855# not 3845*#855#
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Perfect , thanks a million - you made my day

Protagoras said:
Hmm, I carry my phone in my jeans pocket all the time, and this is not a problem to me. Knock on never seems to trigger when I don't want to.
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Lennyuk said:
I have had no false starts from using knock on at all, I even tested with lots of different materials to see if it would work.
If it is causing you such problems why don't you use a knock code?
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Same! Never had a problem with knock-on on my G2 either!

Related

magnet in case canceling sleep mode.

Am i the only one who is having this issue? My phone wakes up while in the case due to the magnet. At first i thought that the sleep and awake button was getting hit when i pit it in the case, but even sitting the phone on top of the case still does it. Is there anyway to turn this feature off?
i am new to windows mobile so thanks in advance.
leewongfei said:
Am i the only one who is having this issue? My screen turns itself on when its in the case. At first i thought that the sleep and awake button was getting hit when i pit it in the case, but even sitting the phone on top of the case still does it. Is there anyway to turn this feature off?
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Apparently magnets in the case can turn the phone on, mine sometimes turns on but it seems only to do this if the magnet is passed over the bottom part of the screen where the hardware buttons are.
I haven't seen anyone coming up with a fix, I suppose it really depends if this is a feature or an accidental thing
raynerda said:
Apparently magnets in the case can turn the phone on, mine sometimes turns on but it seems only to do this if the magnet is passed over the bottom part of the screen where the hardware buttons are.
I haven't seen anyone coming up with a fix, I suppose it really depends if this is a feature or an accidental thing
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Apache was the same way... I believe it actually uses a magnetic switch to detect when it's slid open. I discovered that I could use a magnet (the one in my case, no less) to rotate the screen.
Yeah, it's a pain.
I found this in the archive but i am not sure how to edit a registry (if im reading it correctly). Is anyone a bit more savvy than me thats willing to try what is discussed on this post?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-453771.html
The above post is the reg edit that I use every time I flash. Fixes the problem perfectly.
Mine was already 0
So that must not be the problem for mine
???

Proximity / Light Sensor

Hey guys,
I was talking with a guy from my bank the other day, and the guy was mumbling something which I couldn't hear, and after asking him what did he say, he said I was pressing some keys on the phone which was a bit annoying..
but in reality I was just holding the phone to my ear and my cheek was dialing.. too embarassing.. :/
I know theres this proximity sensor on the Samsung Galaxy S, but I dont know when it is used exactly.. So if it isnt used specifically in situations like this (during call) then I think there must be a mod...
Can a Mod be built such that when the phone is held against the ear during the call, the phone gets locked, the keypad gets tucked in and display brightness gets dimmed and when its moved away from ear it gets unlocked by itself (even if there's a pattern lock), the keypad comes back on the screen and display brightness goes back to normal?
is this cool or stupid? you decide...
The proximity sensor works like this. When you cover the sensor, usually with your ear or side of your head while talking, it turns off the screen. Maybe yours is faulty? Mine is working very well, a lot better than on my previous device.
Are you female? Or do you have long hair?
My moto milestone too had that issue with long hair. It was a bad proximity sensor.
I have not had any such issues with my galaxy. : touch wood :
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Beast using XDA app.
aditya_t90 said:
Are you female? Or do you have long hair?
My moto milestone too had that issue with long hair. It was a bad proximity sensor.
I have not had any such issues with my galaxy. : touch wood :
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Beast using XDA app.
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I have long hair I have the same problem... Is there a way to hold the screen ? While on the phone? Because i didnt find one..
omzart said:
I have long hair I have the same problem... Is there a way to hold the screen ? While on the phone? Because i didnt find one..
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You can NEVER HOLD A PHONE WRONG(well unless that phone is an apple)
Try asking someone else who has long hair to make calls and see if the sensor works or not.
Then do the same thing with someone that has short hair, i.e. no hair over the ears.
If your tests are inconclusive, download the sensor test from the market and see what happens when it is placed near your palm first.
If it works as it is supposed to then next try your ear and face...tuck you hair in once. If it still works then try it without tucking your hair.
I really hope samsung did not use those defective moto sensors.
tl;dr version download sensor test from the market and ask a bunch of people to check the sensor.(You will see everything on the screen. You dont need to make half a dozen calls)
Get back and we will see what happens next
All the best
aditya_t90 said:
You can NEVER HOLD A PHONE WRONG(well unless that phone is an apple)
Try asking someone else who has long hair to make calls and see if the sensor works or not.
Then do the same thing with someone that has short hair, i.e. no hair over the ears.
If your tests are inconclusive, download the sensor test from the market and see what happens when it is placed near your palm first.
If it works as it is supposed to then next try your ear and face...tuck you hair in once. If it still works then try it without tucking your hair.
I really hope samsung did not use those defective moto sensors.
tl;dr version download sensor test from the market and ask a bunch of people to check the sensor.(You will see everything on the screen. You dont need to make half a dozen calls)
Get back and we will see what happens next
All the best
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I meant an hold button http://www.dvhardware.net/reviews/freecombeatman/4.jpg
sorry ^^
Haha
Try pushing the screen lock button during the call.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Beast I9000 using XDA app.
aditya_t90 said:
Are you female? Or do you have long hair?
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LOL NO! I'm a guy.
I have tested the proximity sensor, and I started observing when I made a call.
the screen locks when I hold it to my ear and unlocks it when I move it away.
guess I didn't enable pattern lock earlier..
problem solved

[Q] Wife Claims Ghost Buttons During Calls

So whenever I talk to my wife she always ends up hitting buttons on the screen. (mute, speaker, etc) I told her that the screen should automatically turn off and that maybe something was wrong with her device. As soon as I got home I tested it and it worked just fine. I couldn't get it to happen, light sensor was very responsive.
Somehow she manages to hit buttons and I have no idea how. I covered up the light sensor and tried hitting every button/screen area and nothing happened.
Has anyone else experienced this before? Is there something I can settings/mods wise to help?
DanBergundy said:
So whenever I talk to my wife she always ends up hitting buttons on the screen. (mute, speaker, etc) I told her that the screen should automatically turn off and that maybe something was wrong with her device. As soon as I got home I tested it and it worked just fine. I couldn't get it to happen, light sensor was very responsive.
Somehow she manages to hit buttons and I have no idea how. I covered up the light sensor and tried hitting every button/screen area and nothing happened.
Has anyone else experienced this before? Is there something I can settings/mods wise to help?
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Woman + X = No longer functioning properly
illogic6 said:
Woman + X = No longer functioning properly
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:X
Another funny thing is she said her boss at work has the same problem (female) and her husband has no issue.... Ha! I don't think they have Evos though.
my wife was having the same problem and we narrowed it down to her hair causing interference with the screen sensing that her face was against it. dont know if that makes sense but seemed logical to us and now that she tries to be aware of it and move her hair out of the way the problem doesnt seem to exist. hope this helps.
freaknjoe said:
my wife was having the same problem and we narrowed it down to her hair causing interference with the screen sensing that her face was against it. dont know if that makes sense but seemed logical to us and now that she tries to be aware of it and move her hair out of the way the problem doesnt seem to exist. hope this helps.
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Weird! Does the screen actually turn on then? I should watch the screen next time she makes a call on it.
yeah the screen was turning on while she was using it. i think whenever she would basically readjust the phone against her head it would happen if the hair would cause interference...again i'm not claiming this is some scientific answer but its what we found seemed to be causing issues for her
freaknjoe said:
yeah the screen was turning on while she was using it. i think whenever she would basically readjust the phone against her head it would happen if the hair would cause interference...again i'm not claiming this is some scientific answer but its what we found seemed to be causing issues for her
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I see, thanks.
My wife had the same issue...earrings.
Yep, Yep. My wife has the same issue but I've never had a problem. I'm going to show her this thread so that at least she knows it's not just her. lol.
Lappie2010 said:
My wife had the same issue...earrings.
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How would the earrings affect it?
I think it's actually the proximity sensor being highly in tune to how close it needs to be to the ear/face. It takes very little movement of the phone during a call to trigger the sensor and turn the screen back on. They probably don't even realize they're moving the phone as much as they are.
Crotchety said:
I think it's actually the proximity sensor being highly in tune to how close it needs to be to the ear/face. It takes very little movement of the phone during a call to trigger the sensor and turn the screen back on. They probably don't even realize they're moving the phone as much as they are.
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During a call, I pulled the phone away, moved it around, etc and watched for screen to come one. It did not come on easily. I don't get it.
I need to watch her during a call and test some things.
My sis has the same issues with the moment, and I tried it out and it was fine. She does seem to use it outside her hair and does have a lot of earrings. Though this is the Moment, it still runs android and has the sensors. I'll let her know and see if she'll enjoy her phone again lol.
ReFLeX135 said:
My sis has the same issues with the moment, and I tried it out and it was fine. She does seem to use it outside her hair and does have a lot of earrings. Though this is the Moment, it still runs android and has the sensors. I'll let her know and see if she'll enjoy her phone again lol.
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Still not sure what the issue/solution even is.
She picked up my phone last night and accidentally hung up on the person during the call! I didn't get a chance to see what happened...
She's starting to hate these phones. I need a solution.
Not a joke...but are these ladies blonds? At start of thread I was thinking hair color or earrings too. But earrings shouldn't impact the sensor as it is up top of phone and earrings would be down toward the screen.
But...if their hair was very light color...and they had phone only loosely pressed to head, I could 'guess' that the hair had enough light reflecting through it to set off the sensor.
Another thing to check on the earring side....what part of phone contacts first...do earrings hit the screen before head covers up the sensor?
My wife had dark brown hair :x
My wife too. Dark brown hair. With and without earrings. Swapped out one device, same problem. She even made it happen on mine.
I have seen it get in a mode where the proximity sensor seems to get reversed. Near head, screen on, away from head screen off. A button gets pushed at some point and then when the screen is on you can't un-mute, un-speaker, or answer a returned call from the one she just hung up on.
I think we are going to have to get her a different phone
I have the same issue but it only seems to come up with AOSP ROM's (Cyanogen & UD)
If I call Sprint and hit the prompts followed by putting the phone to my ear it presses other numbers. I think there is a delay in the proximity sensor that's causing this. I don't have long hair and my face is clean shaved so it's not that.
If I go to show someone that when everything works perfect. It's like when you call tech support for Dell, Netgear, etc. It works when you're on the phone with them and when you get off it doesn't.
I've noticed this in the past. If you are talking on the phone and you cant it just a little bit away from your ear, towards your face, you can see the backlight come back on. Also, hair can carry a static charge. So if your ladies cant the phone and the screen turns on, their hair could trigger a button press.

Knock On Not working properly

Hi, everyone. So I have an LG G4 for more than a year now and I am very pleased with its performance. I did have an issue with sometimes the audio is stuck after a call but I think it more has to do with bad reception as I noticed so its rare this days. However, lately something happened with the knock on feature which I cannot figure out at all. Sometimes it just doesn't work. I tap and nothing happens. The power on button is working perfectly but the knock on is unresponsive. I fiddled with the proximity sensor but it's not it. Sometimes it just stops working for 5-6 times and then it works and the again it doesn't. There is no pattern. When it's powering on the feature works with no hiccups but after that it's like the cpu forgets to monitor the process. I don't know. I have tried calibration and it works with no problem for a few minutes and then it goes back again to this stutter. Does anyone have any ideas about this? I am thinking factory reset but the hassle would be pointless if the problem persists and I am in no mood to install all those apps I have from the beginning for no reason. Any hep will be really appreciated. Thanks in advance.
I am experiencing the same issue but mine Knock on is a bit delaying.. for an example, I double tap on the screen and it gives response in 3-4 mins or not... I am suspecting from screen protector which has been mounted for almost a year, it could be corrupted(scratch) Give a try on removing the screen protector(if you have any)
It's a hardware problem. Many threads online about it
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Nailen said:
Hi, everyone. So I have an LG G4 for more than a year now and I am very pleased with its performance. I did have an issue with sometimes the audio is stuck after a call but I think it more has to do with bad reception as I noticed so its rare this days. However, lately something happened with the knock on feature which I cannot figure out at all. Sometimes it just doesn't work. I tap and nothing happens. The power on button is working perfectly but the knock on is unresponsive. I fiddled with the proximity sensor but it's not it. Sometimes it just stops working for 5-6 times and then it works and the again it doesn't. There is no pattern. When it's powering on the feature works with no hiccups but after that it's like the cpu forgets to monitor the process. I don't know. I have tried calibration and it works with no problem for a few minutes and then it goes back again to this stutter. Does anyone have any ideas about this? I am thinking factory reset but the hassle would be pointless if the problem persists and I am in no mood to install all those apps I have from the beginning for no reason. Any hep will be really appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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Is your case or temp glass protect over prox sensor. That can affect it bad. Also scratches on glass over prox sensor. If not. Then more than likely hardware related.
No the screen protector does not cover the prox sensor. It's cut out as it should be. I am starting to think it's a hardware problem. The thing is why now?!
Nailen said:
No the screen protector does not cover the prox sensor. It's cut out as it should be. I am starting to think it's a hardware problem. The thing is why now?!
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They are mostly sensors just like on a car. Sometimes it's just there time. Electrical components fail all the time. Are u rooted. Modified anything recently?
TheMadScientist420 said:
They are mostly sensors just like on a car. Sometimes it's just there time. Electrical components fail all the time. Are u rooted. Modified anything recently?
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No. I haven't touched it at all yet. I am pretty satisfied with the performance so I left it alone. The only thing worth mentioning is that I overheated taking a lot of pictures during an event. Maybe this did a number on it!
I have been discussing the issue with a technican today. It is a hardware issue, you cannot fix it. Apparently, the proximity sensor dies after ~2 years - at least somewhat. Why somewhat?
Check this out: You can check the status of your sensor using MINIOS, type *#546368#*815# (n.b. - swap 815 for your model number).
Now click device test - MT - ok - Individual Item - Sensor test - WAIT!
The proximity sensor will run a test and likely come up with a figure between 60~90. The actual value should be 220+.
Meaning: Your phone thinks it´s ~6-9 cm away from your face, that is not enough to trigger knock-on but it´s far enough to be triggered using the backside button.
My knock on doesn't work, but knock off does. Not a major issue, just annoying!

Question about an proximity sensor issue

So i have an H812 model and last year i had the dreaded boot loop issue but got it fixed under warranty and no issue since with that. The issue that is irritating the hell out of me now is that the double tap to turn screen on just stopped working reliably. It barely ever works.
I've tried the sensor calibration from the hidden menu and i have a question about that also. My sensor acts like it calibrates fine but the # next it seems kinda low (# next to proximety cal pass ...). It's around 48. See screenshot for reference taken from xda https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3513220&d=1445359160
Has my sensor just crapped out? and if so, is that normal. Any help would be appreciated, i've gotten so addicted to using that feature that people ask me what the hell i'm doing when i try to turn their phones screen on lol.
Edit: No screen protector on btw and the internal board as far as i can see seems fine too. And the double tap to turn screen off works fine.
Thanks
sunster said:
So i have an H812 model and last year i had the dreaded boot loop issue but got it fixed under warranty and no issue since with that. The issue that is irritating the hell out of me now is that the double tap to turn screen on just stopped working reliably. It barely ever works.
I've tried the sensor calibration from the hidden menu and i have a question about that also. My sensor acts like it calibrates fine but the # next it seems kinda low (# next to proximety cal pass ...). It's around 48. See screenshot for reference taken from xda https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3513220&d=1445359160
Has my sensor just crapped out? and if so, is that normal. Any help would be appreciated, i've gotten so addicted to using that feature that people ask me what the hell i'm doing when i try to turn their phones screen on lol.
Edit: No screen protector on btw and the internal board as far as i can see seems fine too. And the double tap to turn screen off works fine.
Thanks
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Is the little black rubber plug in the prox sensor. They may have forgot to put it back in. This little black plug is required for proper prox sensor to function properly.
Thnaks for the response but It worked perfectly for quite some time after the board was replaced by the service center so don't think that's it.
I'm guessing you dropped your phone. That's the problem
deltadiesel said:
I'm guessing you dropped your phone. That's the problem
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Sorry man, never got an alert to this but better late than never . Can't recall but i might have. Why would you say that? Is there a possibility something moved or broke or just plain got whacked out of place? Of course the issue is still there. I was thinking about opening it up anyways so i'll take a look. Thanks
sunster said:
Sorry man, never got an alert to this but better late than never . Can't recall but i might have. Why would you say that? Is there a possibility something moved or broke or just plain got whacked out of place? Of course the issue is still there. I was thinking about opening it up anyways so i'll take a look. Thanks
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So i opened it up and checked the rubber piece just to make sure and it's there. Everything else looks ok. I guess the sensor just crapped out and will just continue to live with it.

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