Can You Remove Root Yet? - G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey folks
I'm on Verizon and I'm on day 1 of my 14 day return policy for my G3. I'd like to root it (seems like ioroot is compatible with Verizon) and tweak things, but just in case I find something broken with the phone, I need to be able to remove root in case I need to return it. Is this possible yet? Will a factory reset remove root? If not, how is it done (if it can be done)?
Bonus question: If I root it with ioroot and install xposed to perform tweaks on the stock rom, will ota updates still work?
Thanks

MSmithXDA said:
Hey folks
I'm on Verizon and I'm on day 1 of my 14 day return policy for my G3. I'd like to root it (seems like ioroot is compatible with Verizon) and tweak things, but just in case I find something broken with the phone, I need to be able to remove root in case I need to return it. Is this possible yet? Will a factory reset remove root? If not, how is it done (if it can be done)?
Bonus question: If I root it with ioroot and install xposed to perform tweaks on the stock rom, will ota updates still work?
Thanks
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You can unroot it by flashing stock rom LINK and ota updates will be able and you can download them but you can't acctualy update do to phone detecting root

suljo94 said:
You can unroot it by flashing stock rom LINK and ota updates will be able and you can download them but you can't acctualy update do to phone detecting root
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Sorry but i am going to borrow this post. I have the D855 and i am rooted via towelroot. Currently on V10a and i received an OTA notification. Obviously i could not install it so how do i get updates? TWRP did not list the G3 on supported devices.

suljo94 said:
You can unroot it by flashing stock rom LINK and ota updates will be able and you can download them but you can't acctualy update do to phone detecting root
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Don't think that works on Verizon.
This does
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2799647

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[Q] Upgrading to ZVC From ZVA Rooted

Hello,
I have a G2 Running Stock LS980ZVA Kernel Version 3.4.0. Now I rooted the stock ROM and now got a notification to update the ROM to ZVC.
Now my dilemma is do I "Restart and Install" this update or not. Will this brick my phone?
I have TWRP running as the custom recovery. What should I be doing? I tried to search for a similar thread but couldn't find one.
Any help will be appreciated.
Thank you!
You will brick. Either hold your finger on the notification and then click app data. Click on the show notification. No check mark. Notification will go away.
Regular reboot will not install the update.
If you unroot and put regular recovery back. Then you could.
Sent from my LG-LS980 using Tapatalk
ZVA Sim unlocked, root OTA update to kitkat query
jigarbond said:
Hello,
I have a G2 Running Stock LS980ZVA Kernel Version 3.4.0. Now I rooted the stock ROM and now got a notification to update the ROM to ZVC.
Now my dilemma is do I "Restart and Install" this update or not. Will this brick my phone?
I have TWRP running as the custom recovery. What should I be doing? I tried to search for a similar thread but couldn't find one.
Any help will be appreciated.
Thank you!
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I have a kind of same problem, I'm from India and my uncle got me sprint lg g2 unlocked, which is rooted and on ZVA (4.2.2).
My question is should I install the OTA for kitkat?
Will i lose my unlock and root ?
dagamer1991 said:
I have a kind of same problem, I'm from India and my uncle got me sprint lg g2 unlocked, which is rooted and on ZVA (4.2.2).
My question is should I install the OTA for kitkat?
Will i lose my unlock and root ?
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Please someone reply, i searched all over and cannot find anything bout this..
dagamer1991 said:
Please someone reply, i searched all over and cannot find anything bout this..
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I had the OTA downloaded but when i tried installing it, it did not install completely. Phone restarted and is still on 4.2.2 . Everything works as normal though, as I have been prompted 3 times to install the update.
vipulsaini1402 said:
I had the OTA downloaded but when i tried installing it, it did not install completely. Phone restarted and is still on 4.2.2 . Everything works as normal though, as I have been prompted 3 times to install the update.
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okay, i did some research and found that it is safe to install OTAs but if youre rooted youll lose the root and unlock will still stay.
best imo, is you upgrade to 4.4.2 and root again with custom recovery and install a nice ROM.
dagamer1991 said:
okay, i did some research and found that it is safe to install OTAs but if youre rooted youll lose the root and unlock will still stay.
best imo, is you upgrade to 4.4.2 and root again with custom recovery and install a nice ROM.
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Hi - I need similar help.
I have Sprint LG G2 that I purchased from ebay which was rooted and then used sim unlocked as mentioned in xda by the seller. I want to upgrade to kitkat.
please provide steps to backup my data and what needs to be done to upgrade to kitkat without losing the sim unlock.
Thanks

OTA updates after debloating

I have read several threads on debloating this device, including this really good one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/help/debloating-t2805503 . The info there that eliminating split-screen capability should be most useful!
However, I don't have enough experience to find the answer to my question from what I have read. If I use any of the relevant root tools to de-crap the machine, or if I just root, will I lose the ability to receive OTA updates? If so, is there any way to apply them short of waiting for someone to come out with a new ROM?
Is freezing with Titanium safe for this purpose, since nothing is removed? Or do I need to save the old stock ROM, and reload it, do the update, and then re-root and re-freeze everything?
Thank you for your indulgence, given that I'm sure that the answer is in several threads and I just don't know enough to identify it.
Root = no OTA, simple. Once an update comes out easiest thing to do is to download the new firmware from somewhere like Sammobile and flash using Odin, then re-root. Sammobile often releases the update before the OTA starts rolling out!
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For titanium backup freezing just stops the apk from running and is safe because nothing is removed and when you install a new rom update, the things that were frozen will unfreeze since it requires root to freeze apps. Just follow what @killall said and that should do it. And if you root you can install twrp to backup your whole rooted rom as it was and restore back too it if you did something wrong while you were on the rooted rom.
killall said:
Root = no OTA, simple. Once an update comes out easiest thing to do is to download the new firmware from somewhere like Sammobile and flash using Odin, then re-root. Sammobile often releases the update before the OTA starts rolling out!
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Doesn't flashing with Odin wipe data also, so it's not just simple re-rooting? Rooting doesn't prevent updating with Kies if I'm correct, does it matter whether you have custom recovery or not?
miloytyn said:
Doesn't flashing with Odin wipe data also, so it's not just simple re-rooting? Rooting doesn't prevent updating with Kies if I'm correct, does it matter whether you have custom recovery or not?
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No, It should wipe the device's data.
I found a way to set my device status to official even though im rooted. Since I set the status to official I can check for updates without the custom software popup but I not tryed installing any updates since there are not any new updates atm.
kable said:
No, It should wipe the device's data.
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I mean that of course it doesn't wipe your pictures and such, but flashing with Odin will wipe application data and restoring it from e.g. Titanium backup does take long time.
Here's hoping the custom ROM community picks up the slack and puts out a decent ROM this device sorely needs...
DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
I found a way to set my device status to official even though im rooted. Since I set the status to official I can check for updates without the custom software popup but I not tryed installing any updates since there are not any new updates atm.
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What method did you use to root your Galaxy Tab S 8.4 SM-T705 LTE? And did you use CW or TWRP?
jadid said:
What method did you use to root your Galaxy Tab S 8.4 SM-T705 LTE? And did you use CW or TWRP?
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I have a Galaxy tab s 10.5inch and rooted with cfautoroot and have twrp recovery installed. I used an xposed module called wanam xposed and changed my status to official. There is a ota update right now and Im scared to try the update becuase I dont know the risks. I have super su pro with survival mode on. Im not sure if its safe to do an ota update on rooted device as I dont want to brick it.
DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
I have a Galaxy tab s 10.5inch and rooted with cfautoroot and have twrp recovery installed. I used an xposed module called wanam xposed and changed my status to official. There is a ota update right now and Im scared to try the update becuase I dont know the risks. I have super su pro with survival mode on. Im not sure if its safe to do an ota update on rooted device as I dont want to brick it.
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Thanks man, I followed your example and successfully rooted my device
What is xposed module called wanam xposed and what is it for?
jadid said:
Thanks man, I followed your example and successfully rooted my device
What is xposed module called wanam xposed and what is it for?
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Yeah the module is wanam xposed and its for like customzing things such as hiding your carrier label and customize your lockscreen and nofications.
Do u know what the update changes?

Verizon LG G Pad 8.3 system update

I rooted this tablet last week (just rooted, I left it stock) and this morning I notice there is a system update waiting to be installed. I am reading Lollipop is starting to roll out in Asia somewhere now but I am in the US lol. I thought it wasn't possible to get OTA updates once you root? If I allow this to update will I get unrooted, would it even work?
I foolishly allowed it to update after checking in Supersu to not allow the root to be lost and now I keep booting directly into TWRP lol. How do I wipe this tablet from TWRP so that it is fully stock again (NO ROOT)? I see a factory reset option in TWRP do I need to include all the partitions in the advanced wipe or is just the normal wipe method enough? Or will this not work at all? I already tried to restore the phone using TWRP to my backup and that didn't seem to work.
Anthony-m said:
I rooted this tablet last week (just rooted, I left it stock) and this morning I notice there is a system update waiting to be installed. I am reading Lollipop is starting to roll out in Asia somewhere now but I am in the US lol. I thought it wasn't possible to get OTA updates once you root? If I allow this to update will I get unrooted, would it even work? .
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Simply rooting a device doesn't keep it from TRYing to update via OTA. Rooting can prevent an OTA from succeeding, plus can hard or soft brick if you try to take an OTA, although usually only if you've gone beyond just rooting by installing a custom recovery or changing the contents of any partition besides Data by, fire example, downgrading your bootloader (aboot.img) or modem, running a custom kernel, debloating system apps, etc.
There are at least three variants of the G Pad 8.3. I have the VK810.4G, which do you have?
I know on the VK810.4G, Verizon just released a very, very minor update from LG build #23A to 24A. Still KitKat.
I foolishly allowed it to update after checking in Supersu to not allow the root to be lost and now I keep booting directly into TWRP lol.
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There's the main problem, you had a custom recovery installed. OTAs are applied with the stock recovery, that's why it (probably soft) bricked it.
How do I wipe this tablet from TWRP so that it is fully stock again (NO ROOT)? I see a factory reset option in TWRP do I need to include all the partitions in the advanced wipe or is just the normal wipe method enough? Or will this not work at all? I already tried to restore the phone using TWRP to my backup and that didn't seem to work.
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You might not be able to fix it from TWRP. You could try @autoprime 's fix recovery zip available the same page his flash2 scripts are. You'll have to Google:
autoprime flash2
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Otherwise, you'll have to restore to 100% stock unrooted and start from scratch. Two methods.
One is using LG's official Mobile Tool, which will download the latest official ROM in KDZ format (takes 20+ minutes to download) and flash it with your tablet in Download mode (probably with the tablet off, hold both up and down volume buttons in and while holding them, turn the tablet on.
I've got to go do something so hopefully someone else will help further or I can get back to you later, dont know when though.
Good luck!
Sent from my VK810 4G
I did the TWRP terminal commands from the thread listed below and it got me right out of that jam...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g-pad-83/help/vk810-download-mode-boot-loop-t2991512
OK now that I am up and running fine the system update message keeps popping up. This time I KNOW not to try and upgrade while rooted. Is there any way I can stop the tablet from constantly giving me the upgrade message? Can I do anything from TWRP to stop this?
Anthony-m said:
... This time I KNOW not to try and upgrade while rooted. Is there any way I can stop the tablet from constantly giving me the upgrade message? Can I do anything from TWRP to stop this?
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Don't install TWRP. I was rooted (w/ stock recovery) with 23A, and the OTA update worked fine (still rooted).
DeanGibson said:
Don't install TWRP. I was rooted (w/ stock recovery) with 23A, and the OTA update worked fine (still rooted).
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TWRP is already installed..
Can I uninstall TWRP, keep root , do the update and then reinstall TWRP? If so how? Is there any other way around this issue, any way of not having the tablet continue to ask me to upgrade? Thanks BTW...
Anthony-m said:
TWRP is already installed..
Can I uninstall TWRP, keep root , do the update and then reinstall TWRP? If so how? Is there any other way around this issue, any way of not having the tablet continue to ask me to upgrade? Thanks BTW...
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Yes, you can do that, but I don't know the steps. Others here do.
Why do you want TWRP? I thought the usual reason was to install custom ROMs (in which case you won't receive any OTA updates). If you just want to root, it's an unnecessary complication (as you have discovered).
DeanGibson said:
Yes, you can do that, but I don't know the steps. Others here do.
Why do you want TWRP? I thought the usual reason was to install custom ROMs (in which case you won't receive any OTA updates). If you just want to root, it's an unnecessary complication (as you have discovered).
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Thanks Dean, and yes I do agree with you about it being a complication. I was always under the assumption if I rooted a phone that I needed to also use some sort of recovery god forbid I had an issue with the phone not booting up or something so I could possibly fix the issue, make a backup/install a backup etc. Maybe I will ****can it if someone will tell me how to do so without losing my data or root.
Anthony-m said:
Thanks Dean, and yes I do agree with you about it being a complication. I was always under the assumption if I rooted a phone that I needed to also use some sort of recovery god forbid I had an issue with the phone not booting up or something so I could possibly fix the issue, make a backup/install a backup etc. Maybe I will ****can it if someone will tell me how to do so without losing my data or root.
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FYI I just froze the update using Titanium backup pro and my problem is solved for now..

ota update rooted d855

hi, I got ota update today and my g3 is rooted.
I tried updating rooted and it failed, so I checked online to find a solution and I tried to do the "restore upgrade errors" from lg pc suite and it didnt find problems to fix.
so I tried "full unroot" from superSU so now I dont have root and update is failing from phone with 0x1117008 error and doesnt work from pc suite.
how can I do the update? (prefer without backup everything and then wipe...)
Hi you have to go into lg pc suite and wake phone choose reconnect then from mobile tab choose restore upgrade errors....
chainsuk said:
Hi you have to go into lg pc suite and wake phone choose reconnect then from mobile tab choose restore upgrade errors....
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that's what I did.
it says "No upgrade items to fix"
Try going into settings then backup and reset/then choose factory data reset then try lg pc suite again thats what i did and it worked..
chainsuk said:
Try going into settings then backup and reset/then choose factory data reset then try lg pc suite again thats what i did and it worked..
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yes I know this will work buy I hope someone will have a solution without wipes so I won't have to backup and restore
nupity said:
yes I know this will work buy I hope someone will have a solution without wipes so I won't have to backup and restore
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Remember you will lose root and I have not been able to re-root using the script method after installing the update via PC Suite this morning.
If root is important to you may be worth waiting a bit.
divvykev said:
Remember you will lose root and I have not been able to re-root using the script method after installing the update via PC Suite this morning.
If root is important to you may be worth waiting a bit.
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so if I will wait there will be a method to update? All I want is a rooted stock, and a new update has come out. how can I update?
I have a hard time understanding when people want the elevated permissions on their phone, but do not want a means to restore it when they eventually mess it up.
The best method for running a rooted stock is:
Root your device
Unlock your bootloader (if available)
Install a custom recovery
Wipe caches and make a backup
Flash a rooted stock image or a stock-based ROM.
Backup regularly and before any significant change to System.
Enjoy!
epidenimus said:
I have a hard time understanding when people want the elevated permissions on their phone, but do not want a means to restore it when they eventually mess it up.
The best method for running a rooted stock is:
Root your device
Unlock your bootloader (if available)
Install a custom recovery
Wipe caches and make a backup
Flash a rooted stock image or a stock-based ROM.
Backup regularly and before any significant change to System.
Enjoy!
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I don't think you got me.
I have a stock that I rooted, and there is an update from LG and I want to update but it won't let me because I'm rooted.
the question is: how can I update my phone without backing up and then wipe?
nupity said:
I don't think you got me.
I have a stock that I rooted, and there is an update from LG and I want to update but it won't let me because I'm rooted.
the question is: how can I update my phone without backing up and then wipe?
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I think I do understand. You are running a rooted stock, want to take an OTA to a new stock, and have it be rooted as well. Correct?
epidenimus said:
I think I do understand. You are running a rooted stock, want to take an OTA to a new stock, and have it be rooted as well. Correct?
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yes, if it can not be rooted at this moment but will be it's fine too
There is never a guarantee that it will be and it may take months. Many times the update is just to fix the exploit that allowed you to root! What I think that you are missing is that you should never accept an OTA if you are looking to run rooted stock. Rooting is something that is typically done ONCE. And once you do, it is advisable to never accept an OTA again.
If you want to run a newer version of stock and have it be rooted, you flash a pre-rooted version via your custom recovery or flash SuperSU via your custom recovery.
Accepting an OTA with a custom recovery is usually disastrous, too.
nupity said:
so if I will wait there will be a method to update? All I want is a rooted stock, and a new update has come out. how can I update?
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Use lg-flash-tool download whatever new version you want and flash without wiping look here >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2785089 << this way you will not lose any data Then root it afterwards
tallman43 said:
Use lg-flash-tool download whatever new version you want and flash without wiping look here >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2785089 << this way you will not lose any data Then root it afterwards
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ok, but I don't understand which file should I download. I have d855 and the new update that people said here they got yesterday
nupity said:
ok, but I don't understand which file should I download. I have d855 and the new update that people said here they got yesterday
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Depends which one your after newest is 20p..
EDIT LOOK HERE >> http://lg-phone-firmware.com/index.php?id_mod=41 <<

If i root my phone, will OTA break my phone?

Hi,
I saw there is a tool now where it is all GUI based and i can now unlock the bootloader and root my device. If i used this tool to root my phone and install something like TWRP but stayed with the default ROM that comes with my ZenFone 2 (Specifically the ze551ml ASUS_Z00AD) and i receive an OTA update from Asus, will it brick/do something funny with my device?
Also, is there a way to deroot my device if i decide i dont want it anymore? Cheers.
You need to remove root and have stock recovery, yes you can remove root...
Be careful of bootloader unlock tools, especially the official one, it tends to not work properly...
stay in stock recovery when you receive an OTA Update just unroot and install , be sure that you didnt modify/uninstall any system app.
You can unroot and modify ota file to work with TWRP. Guide is here somewhere. That way you can have updates and TWRP going for you.
Hey, I have my bootloader unlocked and my phone is rooted. If I unroot my phone through Super SU and update via OTA will it be updated without any issues?
Ok, makes sense guys, cheers for that
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domacikolaci said:
Hi,
I saw there is a tool now where it is all GUI based and i can now unlock the bootloader and root my device. If i used this tool to root my phone and install something like TWRP but stayed with the default ROM that comes with my ZenFone 2 (Specifically the ze551ml ASUS_Z00AD) and i receive an OTA update from Asus, will it brick/do something funny with my device?
Also, is there a way to deroot my device if i decide i dont want it anymore? Cheers.
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Can you tell me what is the apps? Thanks

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