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Windows Phone 7 on Desire?

Just Got My HTC Desire (UNLOCKED)
and BTW loving every bit of it
was wondering that if in the future it would be possible to run Windows Phone 7 on HTC Desire??
or
[Poll] Whether anyone is interested to run windows phone 7 on Desire?
P.S. Just Learnt someone is working a port of andoid on the iphone (not )

Lol! That will take some effort to make.
It will be really good though, just depends on what future android releases are like.

Windows Phone can not be ported, cause it is closed source.
And why would you want that crap anyway?

I went with Desire cuz I didnt want to have a windows phone nor Symbian but had no money for an Iphone. lol. So thanks but no thanks.

lol the Desire is much better than the iPhone
You should be happy that you didn't have the money

That's like saying can iPhone OS be ported to the Desire.
Never gonna happen with a closed source OS.

shaundalglish said:
Windows Phone can not be ported, cause it is closed source.
And why would you want that crap anyway?
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you're calling it crap when it's not even out yet? 0.o
It might not be as good as android, but im sure it's not 'crap'

It's just my opinion, but yes, I call it crap.

i agree
I agree I had a windows phone everything was so complicated... windows stick to home pcs

Dualboot IMO

http://www.cnet.com.au/telstra-leak-shows-a-desire-to-range-htc-s-mozart-339304024.htm
looks just like htc desire but windows phone 7 .
maybe hardware specs r same as well

Android is open source, it can be configured to diffrent device configurations, windows phone isnt, as the most of the driver, sensors and hardware for the desire was written using the android open source project, they arnt compatible with windows phone full stop lol

If WP7 would ever be ported on Desire, I would probably just test it, to see what its all about. and then delete it...

It would be interesting to play with, but I doubt it would be possible
There's a project porting android to the iPhone, and it's proving very difficult even with Android being open source. So closed source, I don't think it would work..

Android is open source, it can be configured to diffrent device configurations, windows phone isnt, as the most of the driver, sensors and hardware for the desire was written using the android open source project, they arnt compatible with windows phone full stop lol
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If htc releases a phone with win phone 7 which hardware is equal to desire - might be a possibility.
But I can not imagine one dev wanting to do that
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brianius said:
If htc releases a phone with win phone 7 which hardware is equal to desire - might be a possibility.
But I can not imagine one dev wanting to do that
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i dont even think that would be possible, the sdk htc used to write the sensor and harware code isnt compatible with windows, on the other hand, android can be configured to run on hardware written to run on windows phone thats the problem lol

dexteral said:
http://www.cnet.com.au/telstra-leak-shows-a-desire-to-range-htc-s-mozart-339304024.htm
looks just like htc desire but windows phone 7 .
maybe hardware specs r same as well
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So umnmm.....did anyone actually READ the link?
Today's internet leak is brought to you by our friends at Adobe Photoshop and is apparently known as the HTC Mozart.
A leaked internal Telstra document is offering the first indication of when we might actually see a Windows Phone 7 device in stores and all but confirms that HTC will be one of the first manufacturers to launch a phone running Microsoft's overhauled OS.
We suggest you forget about the image, which is clearly just an HTC Desire with a WP7 home screen photoshopped onto the front of it. However, what is really interesting is the AU$49 per month price cap, Telstra's newest and lowest available Next G cap. Everyone who assumed that the first swell of WP7 phones would run at a premium cost (us included) were obviously mistaken.
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I would use it. The more I play with Windows Phone 7 the more I am sure it is going to be a serious player in the mobile world. I love the openess of Android, but I've been playing with several WP7 ui apps and I want more!
I would buy a WP7 phone as a secondary, but as of yet, I don't really like any of the hardware currently available with AT&T bands...

Wrong Thread

WP7 has been ported to HTC HD2; maybe it was easier because WP7 is based on Windows CE 6, as winmo was.

Desire HD dual boot (Android - Windows Mobile)

hi, i was wondering if there is any possible way to dual boot windows mobile and android on the desire hd? if not, are there any plans by the xda developers to pursue this issu?
Thank you

+1 I want windows mobile on my DHD only because I love the mod.

Sorry but I doute this will happen, though we have many talented ROM developers on here WinMo is closed source, thus not allowed on our devices. In contrast android is open source that is why other phones have both if they're licensed. It could happen but it won't happen here.
Again sorry to dispoint would of loved to try Windows Phone 7

WindowsMobile is impossible. WP7 is possible since hardware are almost identical, even same digitalizers...

StCory said:
Sorry but I doute this will happen, though we have many talented ROM developers on here WinMo is closed source, thus not allowed on our devices. In contrast android is open source that is why other phones have both if they're licensed. It could happen but it won't happen here.
Again sorry to dispoint would of loved to try Windows Phone 7
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yeah its kind of dissapointing, and it does make sense. well thanks for ur help

krogoth said:
WindowsMobile is impossible. WP7 is possible since hardware are almost identical, even same digitalizers...
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I think he meant impossible from the legal point of view, because Microsoft would sue XDA and shut it down. I'm still hoping someone releases a dual boot anonymously.

Windows Mobile 7 ROM for Dinc??

I got to thinking and wondered if Windows Mobile 7 Verizon ROM has been ported to Dinc? Is like to check it out for connecting to all our MS bases crappy at the job! A search didn't return anything.
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I would think it'd be much quicker/easier to go out and buy a windows phone 7 phone... that's my $0.02. There's much better (more worthwhile) projects to be undertaken first.

There is a Home Launcher that does a good job emulating a Win 7 phone.. it's called Metro UI
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Yeah pretty sure WP7 can't be ported to our device or any android device for that matter. It would be cool, but I don't think it's possible

Windows = closed source. Android = open source.
You won't find any custom WP7 ROMs because the source code is not openly distributed.

Windows Phone 7 won't be on Android phones anytime soon, just like the other posters have said. I'll point you to two things:
1. Launcher 7 (https://market.android.com/details?id=info.tikusoft.launcher7&feature=search_result) is a very solid WP7 launcher that receives steady updates and is only improving. It's definitely worth checking out.
2. The WP7Android project (www.wp7android.com) is developing 9 WP7 applications for Android, and will supposedly develop WP7-like ROMs for popular devices.
However, I'd recommend you just buy a Windows Phone 7 device. The Mango release update coming in a few months is going to really make WP7 competitive, and there are many aspects that you simply won't be able to replicate with Android.

if you ever had a window's phone, you wouldn't be posting this..

What about the HD2 being able to run Android and Windows Phone7?

It's not a matter of possible, it's definitely possible.
It's a matter of whether someone smart enough to know how to reverse engineer and re-engineer ARM machine code wants to put in the effort to make it work. I don't think anyone with those capabilities has any desire to put the effort into getting WP7 on the DInc.

BLASPHEMY!!

Solar257 said:
What about the HD2 being able to run Android and Windows Phone7?
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Hd2 started as WINMO 6.5. Therefore it can run any windows or android, cause its starting from closed source.
I propose a toast to the 21st century.

Damage control suggestions for Microsoft/Nokia in light of all this?

Although I understand why WP8 will not be compatible with existing devices, the bad PR is not exactly helping Microsoft/Nokia. The consolation prize of WP7.8 is not enough to dispel the Osborne Effect that is very likely to occur between now and the time WP8 devices are released.
So let's use this topic to suggest some damage control possibilities based on what's happening NOW, not what Microsoft coulda/shoulda/woulda done (there are plenty of other topics covering the latter).
I think Microsoft/Nokia/carriers should have a trade-in program: trade in a WP7 device for credit off of a new WP8 device. Depending on the trade-in amount, it may or may not stop the bleeding from the Osborne-inflicted wounds, though.
Any other suggestions?

killerb255 said:
I think Microsoft/Nokia/carriers should have a trade-in program: trade in a WP7 device for credit off of a new WP8 device.
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Why? They gave you a Lumia 900 or free. What more do you want?

An expansion of the "Registered Enthusiasts" program that would give us carrier locked stock images of a stripped down WP8 build or a $100 credit from Microsoft upon request.

sitizenx said:
Why? They gave you a Lumia 900 or free. What more do you want?
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Aside from the word "you" in the second sentence, good point. Many people got the Lumia 900 for free with contract, so it's not like they're being totally shafted.
Other suggestions or rebuttals? Keep in mind that the PR is still bad, and people are not exactly thinking "well, I got a free phone, I should be grateful." They're thinking "OMG, M$ jus skrewd mez!"

Look at the big picture.
The market share wasn't going to get any bigger in the next 3 to 5 months, especially with no new flash ship devices on the horizon.
With Windows 8 and this kernel, there will be a surge of developers. Tons of amazing apps, the market share will explode.
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I think they should stop talking to us as if we're retarded. Just that. Come clean and say "we're not updating you to WP8 because we don't want to". Enough with the "kernel re-write" stuff, it doesn't make sense. It's like saying you can't run Windows 8 on a Windows XP PC with enough power to run it because it has a different kernel.

I think trade in is the way forward. Based on IMEI they would know what phones were sold free, subsidized or full price. Pay the trade in value accordingly.
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I am thinking along the lines of put as many goodies in the WP7.8 build and that way the consumers get a taste of the new OS and then go out and buy a new WP8, Not far from what's already in the pipeline I know but just exactly the way I would now treat this situation, Not everyone will be happy, But then again when is everyone ever happy

guilhermedsx said:
I think they should stop talking to us as if we're retarded. Just that. Come clean and say "we're not updating you to WP8 because we don't want to". Enough with the "kernel re-write" stuff, it doesn't make sense. It's like saying you can't run Windows 8 on a Windows XP PC with enough power to run it because it has a different kernel.
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A better analogy would be comparing Windows 9x (95/98/Millennium) with NT (2000/XP/Vista/7/8). Those have different kernels, but can run on the same x86 processors.
Either way, your point has merit. Windows RT is being written for ARM architecture...why not Windows Phone 8? One possibility could be that current hardware is just too dang slow, and we could have another early-gen Android-like situation, where single-core Android phones that aren't optimized (i.e.: rooted, Wi-Fi turned off, kill unused background apps, etc) run slow.
If the problem is more of a political/financial one, rather than a technical one, then I'm sure the fine cooks here at XDA will eventually come up with a way to run a Windows Phone 8 ROM on existing hardware.
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I am thinking along the lines of put as many goodies in the WP7.8 build and that way the consumers get a taste of the new OS and then go out and buy a new WP8, Not far from what's already in the pipeline I know but just exactly the way I would now treat this situation, Not everyone will be happy, But then again when is everyone ever happy
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Hopefully they release a complete list of updates to be put in Windows Phone 7.8, if for no other reason than to try and pacify the masses.
...of course this is assuming that the complete list consists of more than just the WP8 UI update...
vetvito said:
Look at the big picture.
The market share wasn't going to get any bigger in the next 3 to 5 months, especially with no new flash ship devices on the horizon.
With Windows 8 and this kernel, there will be a surge of developers. Tons of amazing apps, the market share will explode.
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True, but I wonder if Nokia can afford to wait that long...

The start screen isn't the only update in 7.8; its just the only one we KNOW about. Microsoft didn't completely release WP7.8 to the public because they aren't done with it. So don't jump to conclusions because you might just be happy with what's in the update.

If the problem is more of a political/financial one, rather than a technical one, then I'm sure the fine cooks here at XDA will eventually come up with a way to run a Windows Phone 8 ROM on existing hardware.
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Hoping that the current hardware will work on 8... but they could throw all the hardware under the bus... as we saw from 6.x to 7.
Other than us 'enthusiasts', does the casual phone user really care whether their 900 will work with WP8 (other than the availability - or lack therof - of apps)?
The fact that none of the 6.x programs will work on 7 tells you that usoft is in it for the long haul (either that, or they made a SERIOUS miscalculation)! I know... it's a total re-vamp of the software.. had to do it... is 8 going to be as drastic of a change?
At least they are saying 'WP7 programs might have to have a 'minor' tweak' to run on 8... will give WP7 users some hope.
(I'm on the edge of getting a 900 (still running my tilt 2), but I'm not happy about some of the aps that I use on the t2 aren't available for WP7). The developers say 'they are looking into it'...
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Nokia has done trade-ins before. I remember them doing it for at least the last 2 years.
At least this would be an option for those are complaining that they are stuck with the same phone for the remaining of their contract. Plus, it would help generate some momentum when the new devices are introduced. Microsoft is going to need to WP8 users right away and cannot wait multiple years to reach 2%. So give people who were loyal a discount when the phones are launched.
Microsoft, Nokia, and others could very well do nothing like when WP7 replaced Windows Mobile. We also know that there were large numbers of people who left permanently when this happened.

eeeelliott said:
The start screen isn't the only update in 7.8; its just the only one we KNOW about. Microsoft didn't completely release WP7.8 to the public because they aren't done with it. So don't jump to conclusions because you might just be happy with what's in the update.
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Actually, Microsoft have apparently said that WP7.8 is the start screen only. See links below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLEB8CC228C5239441&v=fTNHgfy7lY8&feature=player_detailpage#t=5052s
http://www.winsupersite.com/article/windowsphone75/windows-phone-78-preview-143476

tim051 said:
The fact that none of the 6.x programs will work on 7 tells you that usoft is in it for the long haul (either that, or they made a SERIOUS miscalculation)! I know... it's a total re-vamp of the software.. had to do it... is 8 going to be as drastic of a change?
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No. WP7 programs will still work on WP8.
tim051 said:
Hoping that the current hardware will work on 8... but they could throw all the hardware under the bus... as we saw from 6.x to 7.
Other than us 'enthusiasts', does the casual phone user really care whether their 900 will work with WP8 (other than the availability - or lack therof - of apps)?
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No.

[Q] Windows 8.1 on our HTC One?

Could there be a way to have the windows 8.1 on our M7? I seen today where they released the windows version on the M8 at verizon today and I was just curious if it could be done?
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Aggies1288 said:
Could there be a way to have the windows 8.1 on our M7? I seen today where they released the windows version on the M8 at verizon today and I was just curious if it could be done?
Thanks
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anythings possible but it would take a lot of work. i dont even know the logistics of it and wouldnt be very helpful.
maybe a dev could chime in.

If I were in the position at Microsoft to institute a pirate dual-boot development campaign for Windows Phone, I would have a lot of fun doing it. Generate market buzz for Windows Phone by giving those with suitable devices the opportunity to install a "free operating system upgrade".
The challenges would be as much legal and political as technical - working with OEM and carrier partners who're nervous about unlocked bootloaders, etc. A marketing campaign that isn't about getting people to buy new hardware so much as giving new life to devices already out there... I would target recent Google Nexus devices (they're open, right?), then do an assessment of iPhone 5* and the legality of a push-button JailBreak app: "Tired of your stuffy iPhone? click here for some open Windows". yeah, redmond could have fun with this and make some noise where they need good marketing more than anything, Simply put, I would look closer at Windows Phone for my next upgrade if they did something like this. Do something nice for the enthusiasts and influencers, etc.

If you had the M8 it might be possible, but not on the M7

Know hawk has hinted about trying to port a Windows os to the m7. Again just talked about it a little. So till at least a dev tries and you know someone will try to do it. We will have to sit and wait till they do.

Until the Windows m8 is even unlocked (as the Chevron method will no longer work) and someone manages to make a dump from it, nothing will happen.
Maybe it will still be possible to pay a fee and register it as a Developer device, for publishing apps to the market.
Then when that does happen, getting it to boot on the Android m8 will be the first challenge at hand, as it will have to have the bootloader and firmware ported as well.
Getting all of that ported over to any other device will be a huge challenge and I wouldn't personally hold my breath on anyone getting this done, anytime soon, if at all.
Just being straight about it.
It's not the same as porting android from one device to another.
In my opinion, Cotulla would be the guy to do this for the m7, if he has any interest in doing so, but again that's just my opinion.

We will see what happens... As stated not possible without a dump though
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well the HTC HD2 was able to get windows 6.5, windows 7, android, unbuntu, and Meego all on one phone so this is highly possible but as Hawknest said, we would need a dump first.
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with some work, Grub bootloader can be loaded onto the M7. But thats another topic all together.

Problem is even it you port windows 8, Microsoft will pull it from forums..